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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:21:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Dear Residents of Oregon:
We support you. --Idaho. 
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:24:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, they broke the law passed by ballot measure. It's unfortunate, but they knew what would happen. If it were Democrat lawmakers skipping out on a Republican legislature, we'd be screaming bloody murder too. Texas 2003 And again in 2021.  Wisconsin 2011 |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:26:33 PM EDT
[#3]
If there is no quorum there is no meeting to be excused or unexcused
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, they broke the law passed by ballot measure. It's unfortunate, but they knew what would happen. If it were Democrat lawmakers skipping out on a Republican legislature, we'd be screaming bloody murder too. Thank you for bringing fair and balance to the table. We must always do the 'right thing' and play on a higher level than our enemies. It has gotten us to greatness we've never dreamed of. When we're gone, we'll leave a legacy to aspire to. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oregon supreme court is a rubber stamp for democrats. Before the democrats pushed in vote by mail we actually had a two party system, when republicans would be in power the democrats would stage walkouts the media would hail them as heroes. Now that democrats have the permanent majority walkouts have to be quashed. And who gave the the Dems permanent power? Good ole Conservanothings. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:46:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for bringing fair and balance to the table. We must always do the 'right thing' and play on a higher level than our enemies. It has gotten us to greatness we've never dreamed of. When we're gone, we'll leave a legacy to aspire to. Wow. Who would of thought that morals and ethics would be ridiculed like this. You are no better than the Democrats. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And who gave the the Dems permanent power? Good ole Conservanothings. Elections have consequences. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 6:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. Who would of thought that morals and ethics would be ridiculed like this. You are no better than the Democrats. Is it moral to show up and give legitimacy to people stealing your fucking rights? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:06:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear Residents of Oregon: We support you. --Idaho. https://katu.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/e06b1dc2-3dbb-4666-8160-a9d5e87c36c1-large16x9_bigvoGREATERIDAHOONTHEBALLOT500_frame_2463.png this idaho resident doesn't. bend and surrounding area is super lib |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:08:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Elections have consequences. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And who gave the the Dems permanent power? Good ole Conservanothings. Elections have consequences. Democrats optimized stealing elections. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:10:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Oregon WAS cool at one point.
Now that Portlandia is fully wagging the dog, nope. Metropolises need to be their own states so they can't mooch off of the rural areas and browbeat them with state laws that the city slickers come up with that are incompatible with rural life. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:13:34 PM EDT
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Texas democrats have done the same thing several times, and Texas just sends the Rangers after them to bring them back. Maybe we need to play the same game since this country is clown town anyhow.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:15:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Oregon is now a uniparty state.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:17:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, they broke the law passed by ballot measure. It's unfortunate, but they knew what would happen. If it were Democrat lawmakers skipping out on a Republican legislature, we'd be screaming bloody murder too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Oregon Supreme Court said Thursday that 10 Republican state senators who staged a record-long walkout last year to stall bills on abortion, transgender health care and gun rights cannot run for reelection. The decision upholds the secretary of state's decision to disqualify the senators from the ballot under a voter-approved measure aimed at stopping such boycotts. Measure 113, passed by voters in 2022, amended the state constitution to bar lawmakers from reelection if they have more than 10 unexcused absences. https://hosted.ap.org/article/f1d270db9e9a72935c13b973d79a4bb7/oregon-high-court-says-10-gop-state-senators-who-staged Well, they broke the law passed by ballot measure. It's unfortunate, but they knew what would happen. If it were Democrat lawmakers skipping out on a Republican legislature, we'd be screaming bloody murder too. But nothing would happen to them........time for a lawsuit and take it to the Supreme Court |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:31:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their argument was that the language of the bill barred them from running in the next election, but was not a permanent ban. Oregon supreme court has a history of ignoring the language and intent of bills and finding in favor of democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, they broke the law passed by ballot measure. It's unfortunate, but they knew what would happen. If it were Democrat lawmakers skipping out on a Republican legislature, we'd be screaming bloody murder too. Their argument was that the language of the bill barred them from running in the next election, but was not a permanent ban. Oregon supreme court has a history of ignoring the language and intent of bills and finding in favor of democrats. Yep. It looks pretty clear to me that it only applies to the next election. It says nothing nothing about subsequent elections. Here's the wording from the ballot measure (bold font added by myself): "Failure to attend, without permission or excuse, ten or more legislative floor sessions called to transact business during a regular or special legislative session shall be deemed disorderly behavior and shall disqualify the member from holding office as a Senator or Representative for the term following the election after the member's current term is completed." |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:31:27 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted: The Oregon Supreme Court said Thursday that 10 Republican state senators who staged a record-long walkout last year to stall bills on abortion, transgender health care and gun rights cannot run for reelection. The decision upholds the secretary of state's decision to disqualify the senators from the ballot under a voter-approved measure aimed at stopping such boycotts. Measure 113, passed by voters in 2022, amended the state constitution to bar lawmakers from reelection if they have more than 10 unexcused absences. https://hosted.ap.org/article/f1d270db9e9a72935c13b973d79a4bb7/oregon-high-court-says-10-gop-state-senators-who-staged This is not a ruling according to law, this is a ruling of "my side win, you side lose, too bad, so sad." |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. Who would of thought that morals and ethics would be ridiculed like this. You are no better than the Democrats. He just wants to use the same morals and ethics the Dems are using. If these were Dems the decision probably would have gone the other way because "the will of the people". This decision entirely discounts the will of the people they represent. ETA: The Dems want democracy by the will of the people, give it to them. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:35:15 PM EDT
[#18]
They should run their wives.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:37:16 PM EDT
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Voters passed this but I don't think alot of people understood or even cared on why Republicans where doing this.
My only hope is what goes around comes around but the very reason this was put up and passed could be the very reason the democrats never will be in that situation. Oregon has been a super majority for 30 years now. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:41:28 PM EDT
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Rule of law is completely dead
The radicals will just do what they want because no one stops them, it's really that simple Force rules all. They stand over you and shit on your face because they go home at night with no fear and wake up in a cozy bed. And this is where 50% of you call me a fed because i accept the reality and dont guffaw about "well that's democracy, we'll just have to speak with our votes!" |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this idaho resident doesn't. bend and surrounding area is super lib Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dear Residents of Oregon: We support you. --Idaho. https://katu.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/e06b1dc2-3dbb-4666-8160-a9d5e87c36c1-large16x9_bigvoGREATERIDAHOONTHEBALLOT500_frame_2463.png this idaho resident doesn't. bend and surrounding area is super lib Yeah, as a former Eastern Oregonian they can keep Ontario, Nyssa, Adrian, Vale, Baker, La Grande, Pendleton, Hermiston, Boardman, Milton Freewater, Umatilla, Heppner, Lexington, Condon, Dayville, John Day, K Falls, etc. I don't want anything do do with them. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:52:45 PM EDT
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Republicans with their thumb up their ass while Democrats play for keeps.
Link left cold on purpose https://www.fark.com/comments/13139528/Tantrum-has-consequences?cpp=1 |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:55:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Vote Harder folks, vote harder!
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:57:19 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear Residents of Oregon: We support you. --Idaho. https://katu.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/e06b1dc2-3dbb-4666-8160-a9d5e87c36c1-large16x9_bigvoGREATERIDAHOONTHEBALLOT500_frame_2463.png  Though, I have always been fond of the State of Jefferson. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Getting mad" and barring them from elections where they have won due to the voice of the people are the same thing? What if they make the Republican party illegal in that fascist state? That'll be "legal" too. BTW, they are not far at all from that so it's not a ridiculous reductio ad absurdum argument. No, but it is a strawman because that's not what I claimed. Look: I just read the stuff OP posted and it sounded like the PEOPLE of Oregon voted in this amendment. If it's not constitutional, then challenge it. All I said is that the representatives knew that it was a possibility so when and until the law can be challenged, they should have taken that into consideration so they can continue to represent their constituents. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:05:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Pepperidge farm remembers when the Wisconsin liberals took off to an adjoining state in order to hold up a vote.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:06:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are partially correct. My 'heterodoxy' does not include banning of the opposition from the ballot. Yours isn't as exclusive. That's where you're wrong. I do NOT like them getting banned from the ballot. Here's where I differ: The people of Oregon voted on it and no one has (apparently) challenged the constitutionality of the law. Hopefully, the law itself will be challenged and overturned. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:08:42 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pepperidge farm remembers when the Wisconsin liberals took off to an adjoining state in order to hold up a vote. I thought I remember Congressional Democrats in Washington fleeing to Texas by plane to avoid a quorum on a bill maybe like 2018? But I can't find it. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:11:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Here's what the ballot initiative says: https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_113,_Exclusion_from_Re-election_for_Legislative_Absenteeism_Initiative_
A "yes" vote supported disqualifying legislators from re-election following the end of their term if they are absent from 10 legislative floor sessions without permission or excuse. While it is blatant in the sense that it hurts the minority party in a state legislature, on what grounds exactly could this law be challenged? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:13:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical west coast bullshit. CA WA OR are a left wing run dictatorship. This is a fact. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:14:33 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Allow vote by mail and your state will be the same. This is also a fact. To say I feel disenfranchised, would be an understatement. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:19:51 PM EDT
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IMO, this is another indication of the continued polarization of our country. Where a majority party can ram through legislation, they're going to do all they can to make it bulletproof. Expect more of that as this continues. Republican legislatures in states with a solid majority have done similar things to cement their status.
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2022:_State_legislative_veto-proof_majorities Article from the AP about some of the shenanigans: https://apnews.com/article/state-legislatures-supermajorities-extreme-policies-5cff2be330289aa034dce295fa0a3a56 When supermajorities run state capitals, some voters may be pleased by the sweeping policies that get enacted. Others may feel like their priorities are ignored. That's an understatement if I ever saw one. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:25:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except in this case they are punishing the voters not the lawmakers IMO. Fine them, arrest them, whatever them, but it's pretty un-American to ban any real American from a ballot. Let the people decide their fate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Oregon Supreme Court said Thursday that 10 Republican state senators who staged a record-long walkout last year to stall bills on abortion, transgender health care and gun rights cannot run for reelection. The decision upholds the secretary of state's decision to disqualify the senators from the ballot under a voter-approved measure aimed at stopping such boycotts. Measure 113, passed by voters in 2022, amended the state constitution to bar lawmakers from reelection if they have more than 10 unexcused absences. https://hosted.ap.org/article/f1d270db9e9a72935c13b973d79a4bb7/oregon-high-court-says-10-gop-state-senators-who-staged Well, they broke the law passed by ballot measure. It's unfortunate, but they knew what would happen. If it were Democrat lawmakers skipping out on a Republican legislature, we'd be screaming bloody murder too. Except in this case they are punishing the voters not the lawmakers IMO. Fine them, arrest them, whatever them, but it's pretty un-American to ban any real American from a ballot. Let the people decide their fate. Let the people decide. That's exactly the problem. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:28:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. Who would of thought that morals and ethics would be ridiculed like this. You are no better than the Democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thank you for bringing fair and balance to the table. We must always do the 'right thing' and play on a higher level than our enemies. It has gotten us to greatness we've never dreamed of. When we're gone, we'll leave a legacy to aspire to. Wow. Who would of thought that morals and ethics would be ridiculed like this. You are no better than the Democrats. It's fair to use their rules against them and kick them in the teeth |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We had a highly publicized issue here in Texas some years ago where Democrats skipped out to prevent laws from being passed. There were all kinds of story of Texas DPS being sent to track them down. Undoubtedly, the Democrat voters felt strongly that these reps were doing the right thing for them too. As far as I know, Texas has not passed a similar law where representatives could be barred from reelection, but I'm sure most Texas conservatives would be in favor of something like that. Which is to say: We shouldn't be surprised if liberal shitholes like Oregon do it. If it's not constitutional, then appeal it. Otherwise, the best we can do is quid pro quo. I don't blame your libs. It's the only way to have a say in something against a super majority. Our libs are having a tantrum as usual. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 8:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's what the ballot initiative says: https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_113,_Exclusion_from_Re-election_for_Legislative_Absenteeism_Initiative_ While it is blatant in the sense that it hurts the minority party in a state legislature, on what grounds exactly could this law be challenged? Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's what the ballot initiative says: https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_113,_Exclusion_from_Re-election_for_Legislative_Absenteeism_Initiative_ A "yes" vote supported disqualifying legislators from re-election following the end of their term if they are absent from 10 legislative floor sessions without permission or excuse. While it is blatant in the sense that it hurts the minority party in a state legislature, on what grounds exactly could this law be challenged? Dems often challenge voter ID and other voting laws because they "thwart the will of the people". That is actually the prime purpose of this law. You could also argue there is no floor session if there is no quorum. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:16:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dems often challenge voter ID and other voting laws because they "thwart the will of the people". That is actually the prime purpose of this law. You could also argue there is no floor session if there is no quorum. Fair enough, but the Oregon SC decided otherwise. It'll have to be appealed to a federal district court or SCOTUS. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:32:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas democrats have done the same thing several times, and Texas just sends the Rangers after them to bring them back. Maybe we need to play the same game since this country is clown town anyhow. Rangers have zero authority out of state. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:40:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Democrats optimized stealing elections. Our Lt Gov Dan Patrick offered up to a $1,000,000 reward for proof of election fraud. The only payment so far has been to a Democrat in PA.  If the Democrats are so good at stealing elections....prove it. Dan Patrick has lots of $$$ left. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:43:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:46:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oregon supreme court is a rubber stamp for democrats. Before the democrats pushed in vote by mail we actually had a two party system, when republicans would be in power the democrats would stage walkouts the media would hail them as heroes. Now that democrats have the permanent majority walkouts have to be quashed. Democrats have been doing this stuff all over the country for years. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:50:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's where you're wrong. I do NOT like them getting banned from the ballot. Here's where I differ: The people of Oregon voted on it and no one has (apparently) challenged the constitutionality of the law. Hopefully, the law itself will be challenged and overturned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are partially correct. My 'heterodoxy' does not include banning of the opposition from the ballot. Yours isn't as exclusive. That's where you're wrong. I do NOT like them getting banned from the ballot. Here's where I differ: The people of Oregon voted on it and no one has (apparently) challenged the constitutionality of the law. Hopefully, the law itself will be challenged and overturned. On this we are very much in agreement. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 10:00:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pepperidge farm remembers when the Wisconsin liberals took off to an adjoining state in order to hold up a vote. And GD demanded they be arrested and/or removed from office...but this time it is different. Legislators walking out to avoid the process they were elected to participate in is a chicken shit move. They could start holding townhall meetings in their district to educate people as to what is going on and get time actively involved...but that requires work and effort. Much easier to run away an stay in a hotel than show up to do their job. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 10:02:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And GD demanded they be arrested and/or removed from office...but this time it is different. Legislators walking out to avoid the process they were elected to participate in is a chicken shit move. They could start holding townhall meetings in their district to educate people as to what is going on and get time actively involved...but that requires work and effort. Much easier to run away an stay in a hotel than show up to do their job. Were the conservatives doing it to pass blatantly unconstitutional laws? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 10:37:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And GD demanded they be arrested and/or removed from office...but this time it is different. Legislators walking out to avoid the process they were elected to participate in is a chicken shit move. They could start holding townhall meetings in their district to educate people as to what is going on and get time actively involved...but that requires work and effort. Much easier to run away an stay in a hotel than show up to do their job. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Texas-Democrats-flee-state-in-effort-to-block-GOP-backed-voting-bill/5-2469241/?page=1 |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 10:39:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the conservatives doing it to pass blatantly unconstitutional laws? Which bills attempted to pass unconstitutional laws? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 10:43:24 PM EDT
[#47]
The east (and all Republican/conservative/non-communist areas) should just succeed already.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 11:10:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm torn on this one. Not showing up for your job should be a reason to be removed from it. If so then by the voters NOT the Courts!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 11:28:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear Residents of Oregon: We support you. --Idaho. https://katu.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/e06b1dc2-3dbb-4666-8160-a9d5e87c36c1-large16x9_bigvoGREATERIDAHOONTHEBALLOT500_frame_2463.png Hey now Frank, please don’t forget about us. 
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Posted: 2/2/2024 12:21:47 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vote Harder folks, vote harder! I wish it was that easy. Believe it or not we actually elected a republican Governor in WA in 2004. Democrats refused to accept the results and recounted till they got the results they needed. 3 recounts if I remember right. Anyone remember the Dino Rossi vs Christine Gregoire debacle? Dems recounted till they dug up enough votes to turn it in their favor by around 125ish votes. That was early in the mail in ballot transition. I’ll never believe that shady shit did not occur and still does now even if it hasn’t been proven. Literally a rigged system in WA & OR. Trying to fund proof and making it stick with such a screwed up rigged system funded by the ultra rich in these states would be nearly impossible. A $1,000,000 offer for proof sure wouldn’t be in the same universe of what it would take. Anyone remotely familiar with the workings of the Democrat controlled system in OR & WA knows for darn sure that the system is tilted in Dems favor at almost every turn. That being said, I’d cut a nut off to have Christine Gregoire as Governor vs the retard we have now and the commie that’s next in line. That’s a sad thought. |
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