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Add a tube magazine to that standard kit and sign me up. :D
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in on 495!
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"Stand your ground. Don't Fire unless Fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, Let it begin here." - Capt. John Parker
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Wanna see what 55gr Federal ammo at gas pressures of 60,000 PSI, jetted through a small gas port will do to 6061 aluminum?
.065 port, 16" carbine length gas barrel, 25 rounds total. Nearly cut completely through the sleeve. Attached File This is the reason I always completely tear down a new project to inspect everything after a short trip to the range. And also why I had on mechanics gloves. I have a feeling if I had shot longer and popped that sleeve open, those gasses could slice right through a thumb. I had planned to make the sleeve from stainless after prototyping, but figured it would last at least a trip or two to the range (wrong). The gas block sleeve sits in the same spot as any carbine gas block. The joint between the barrel and gas sleeve are not noticeable, the hang grip band covers where the two parts meet to keep a seamless appearance. I considered welding the hole up and filing it smooth, but I read this can warp a barrel. I opted to tap 5/40 threads and add a stainless set screw. The first tap broke off, which took and hour to extract, I cussed the hole time. I will still make a new sleeve from stainless, this with some red locktite on the set screw should do the trick. Attached File Since I have to Cerakote a new sleeve, I will also re-coat the barrel. I painted the barrel before installing the gas sleeve, the gas cut right through most of the cerakote under the sleeve. I sanded very little, only to get the carbon off. Gasses cause some metal spalling on the barrel around the port as well, not enough to be an issue though. |
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You should start a separate Red RydAR thread. I’m sure you would generate even more interest in purchases. That is a thing of beauty! I’m am just amazed at your engineering ability to make the lever action.
ETA-If you can make it work with 308, then PSA can re-release the lower in an AR10 platform. |
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@BrickWurX
Where do I send my order form? |
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"he Deej'd when he should have dodged" ~ Ayada
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Originally Posted By cap6888:
You should start a separate Red RydAR thread. I’m sure you would generate even more interest in purchases. That is a thing of beauty! I’m am just amazed at your engineering ability to make the lever action. ETA-If you can make it work with 308, then PSA can re-release the lower in an AR10 platform. View Quote Concerning the AR-10, the design would work just as well for that platform. Using the same gear ration the throw would be longer by maybe 1/2" or so. The teeth could be adjusted to compensate the longer cartridge if the lever interfered with the magazine. I do not think it would even come close as is though, the chrginging distance as-is is about 1.65" at the distal end. |
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Originally Posted By BrickWurX:
Wanna see what 55gr Federal ammo at gas pressures of 60,000 PSI, jetted through a small gas port will do to 6061 aluminum? .065 port, 16" carbine length gas barrel, 25 rounds total. Nearly cut completely through the sleeve. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/240952/IMG_5507_JPG-1058418.JPG This is the reason I always completely tear down a new project to inspect everything after a short trip to the range. And also why I had on mechanics gloves. I have a feeling if I had shot longer and popped that sleeve open, those gasses could slice right through a thumb. I had planned to make the sleeve from stainless after prototyping, but figured it would last at least a trip or two to the range (wrong). The gas block sleeve sits in the same spot as any carbine gas block. The joint between the barrel and gas sleeve are not noticeable, the hang grip band covers where the two parts meet to keep a seamless appearance. I considered welding the hole up and filing it smooth, but I read this can warp a barrel. I opted to tap 5/40 threads and add a stainless set screw. The first tap broke off, which took and hour to extract, I cussed the hole time. I will still make a new sleeve from stainless, this with some red locktite on the set screw should do the trick. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/240952/IMG_5505_JPG-1058421.JPG Since I have to Cerakote a new sleeve, I will also re-coat the barrel. I painted the barrel before installing the gas sleeve, the gas cut right through most of the cerakote under the sleeve. I sanded very little, only to get the carbon off. Gasses cause some metal spalling on the barrel around the port as well, not enough to be an issue though. View Quote As for the welding, if you use Tig and don't dwell on it you should be good. A little puddle to secure a tapped plug for example. |
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So what is this about Virginia state lowers? Cause I want a few!! If I am SBRing a lower I want to rep my state! It really needs the freedom titty to complete it. |
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+1 for a VA themed lower. Rep the Commonwealth!
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:
So what is this about Virginia state lowers? Cause I want a few!! If I am SBRing a lower I want to rep my state! It really needs the freedom titty to complete it. View Quote How would everyone feel if we changed it to the "VIRTUE-15" instead of the "VIRGINIA-15"? And we changed the serial to "TRIUMPH0000"? I ask because while the imagery would still be clearly for Virginia, if we removed the specific "Virginia" tag it could open the lower up to more people outside of the state. For me personally, if this change was the difference between the lower being made or not (because it would open it up to more people outside VA) I'd take the change. What does everyone else think? Does removing "Virginia" defeat the purpose? Or are you (like me) more interested in the imagery and the statement than the specific state being listed? |
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/352455/5afbbea_jpg-1058858.JPG So what is this about Virginia state lowers? Cause I want a few!! If I am SBRing a lower I want to rep my state! It really needs the freedom titty to complete it. View Quote Need a lower to go with my mags! |
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Originally Posted By EggyMean: Question for you and everyone else interested in the VA lower: How would everyone feel if we changed it to the "VIRTUE-15" instead of the "VIRGINIA-15"? And we changed the serial to "TRIUMPH0000"? I ask because while the imagery would still be clearly for Virginia, if we removed the specific "Virginia" tag it could open the lower up to more people outside of the state. For me personally, if this change was the difference between the lower being made or not (because it would open it up to more people outside VA) I'd take the change. What does everyone else think? Does removing "Virginia" defeat the purpose? Or are you (like me) more interested in the imagery and the statement than the specific state being listed? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By EggyMean:
Question for you and everyone else interested in the VA lower: How would everyone feel if we changed it to the "VIRTUE-15" instead of the "VIRGINIA-15"? And we changed the serial to "TRIUMPH0000"? I ask because while the imagery would still be clearly for Virginia, if we removed the specific "Virginia" tag it could open the lower up to more people outside of the state. For me personally, if this change was the difference between the lower being made or not (because it would open it up to more people outside VA) I'd take the change. What does everyone else think? Does removing "Virginia" defeat the purpose? Or are you (like me) more interested in the imagery and the statement than the specific state being listed? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By EggyMean:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
So what is this about Virginia state lowers? Cause I want a few!! If I am SBRing a lower I want to rep my state! It really needs the freedom titty to complete it. How would everyone feel if we changed it to the "VIRTUE-15" instead of the "VIRGINIA-15"? And we changed the serial to "TRIUMPH0000"? I ask because while the imagery would still be clearly for Virginia, if we removed the specific "Virginia" tag it could open the lower up to more people outside of the state. For me personally, if this change was the difference between the lower being made or not (because it would open it up to more people outside VA) I'd take the change. What does everyone else think? Does removing "Virginia" defeat the purpose? Or are you (like me) more interested in the imagery and the statement than the specific state being listed? |
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Originally Posted By giantpune:
Add a tube magazine to that standard kit and sign me up. :D View Quote But Why? I agree in theory the concepts sounds good. I originally planned on this type of design early on. This is the reason the theme build has the lower feed tube. Even with a tested and fully functional feed system (including a custom flush mount mag well storage bin), the numbers did not add up. 1. A standard upper & lower would no longer work for this design. 2. Crap ton of new parts, which could lead to additional failures. 3. really bad idea to stack 5.56 FMJ tip to end in a tube. (wouldn't wanna test drop that bad boy on the butt stock loaded! Chain reaction super bang!) 4. Completely unloading the tube would mean cycling ALL live rounds up through the chamber for extraction. 5. System is no longer compatible with any type of factory mags. 5. Another big drawback is that a 16" barrel is about 406.5mm. So not including the length of the collapsed spring under tension, or the feed guide, the maximum round count for a 16" tube is Nine rounds. Seven realistically iwhen including mechanical parts. A ten round magazine is nearly flush to the lower reliever and eliminates all of the above concerns. Function over form got the win. But just to show I did consider that idea. Attached File |
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@Josiah
Any update on 14.5 / 14.7 barreled uppers? I see there are four on the website with P&W 14.7" barrels, but all have lo-pro gas blocks and free-floated hand guard. I'm looking for both 14.7" P&W nitride and CHF versions but with FSB and M4 profile barrels. Any idea if / when I could expect to see this / these? I've got 4 PSA M4A1 stripped lowers just waiting for the appropriate barrels. |
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Originally Posted By MoonDancer:
@Josiah Any update on 14.5 / 14.7 barreled uppers? I see there are four on the website with P&W 14.7" barrels, but all have lo-pro gas blocks and free-floated hand guard. I'm looking for both 14.7" P&W nitride and CHF versions but with FSB and M4 profile barrels. Any idea if / when I could expect to see this / these? I've got 4 PSA M4A1 stripped lowers just waiting for the appropriate barrels. View Quote |
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@DerpSouth
Have any of the PX9 Yeet Cannon pre-orders seen the light of day? As I've now learned 4-6 weeks is the estimate for the ATF approval of the design (so Id blame the alphabet boys). I’m not going to claim to know how the inner workings of PSA or the ATF are but I would think that with just the lowers that have been on the list for a while (not these surprise ones that have popped up) that the variance could be applied for before before the pre-sale that way they know it’s legal to produce before the sale goes live. I had been asking in regards to the Minuteman. I've seen photos of them on the forum so I know they have started releasing them. It's going to be six weeks on Tuesday and I'm still on processing. |
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I'd love a Virgia lower.
Also,what page has all the upcoming lowers & prospective ones? I can't remember. |
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"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."
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Originally Posted By slacktide:
I ordered a complete upper on monday and it was at my door on thursday afternoon. I was impressed with their speed. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By lowammo: Each of my PSA orders have taken a week +. Given my age, I remember the old "6 to 8 weeks" on mail orders. So I was fine with that. The low prices were worth the wait. The only real reason for anyone to fret on a delayed delivery time is impatience... to get that package of PSA goodness into your hands. I felt like a kid waiting on Santa. So Santa didn't make it for Christmas...? Well I was just as happy when he arrived on New Year's Eve! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Originally Posted By lowammo: Each of my PSA orders have taken a week +. Given my age, I remember the old "6 to 8 weeks" on mail orders. So I was fine with that. The low prices were worth the wait. The only real reason for anyone to fret on a delayed delivery time is impatience... to get that package of PSA goodness into your hands. I felt like a kid waiting on Santa. So Santa didn't make it for Christmas...? Well I was just as happy when he arrived on New Year's Eve! |
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:
Santa Clause: The Man in Brown who drives a BIG BROWN TRUCK. Every day that gorgeous thing comes down my drive is Christmas!!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chargerdude70:
Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Originally Posted By lowammo: Each of my PSA orders have taken a week +. Given my age, I remember the old "6 to 8 weeks" on mail orders. So I was fine with that. The low prices were worth the wait. The only real reason for anyone to fret on a delayed delivery time is impatience... to get that package of PSA goodness into your hands. I felt like a kid waiting on Santa. So Santa didn't make it for Christmas...? Well I was just as happy when he arrived on New Year's Eve! (With all of the vehicle emogies, we need one of a brown truck...) |
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Just wondering if anyone else has put in for email notifications when an item is restocked for sale at PSA and then never heard back from them? Or is it just me???
It's not every time, but fairly often. *PSA's website is my modern day Sears Wishbook. |
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It sure is funny how this thread has morphed from its original bash of PSA...
Closing in on 500 pages! |
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Speaking of a Jurassic Park lower I did get a response from the blessing from the artist for this design https://imgur.com/2t12ClA it could be edited to make it easier for the machines to print
anyone know whom i would send a copy of the artist's release? i assume @BrickWurX Waiting to hear from the other artists about the other designs. |
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Originally Posted By Brink89:
I've been playing around with a couple ideas for a Jurassic Park lower design. What do you guys think? Forgive my poor editing skills. I tried my best with Paint. @BrickWurX https://i.imgur.com/4OVHNUG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sPwTJNW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ACxvy3v.jpg View Quote |
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@LoDie
Your definitely not the only one who would want one. A JP inspired one did make the BrickWurX's list but not one of the ones I made. |
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Just finished my first build. Build 95% of it enlisted a gunsmith for the gas block roll pin and head spacing.
https://imgur.com/ntT1iL5 https://imgur.com/J2I87fK https://imgur.com/JMZx85O |
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First they came for the Bumpstocks, and I didn't speak cause I'm a fudd
Then they came for the Binary Triggers, and I didn't speak cause I'm a fudd Then they came for my Semiauto-and there was no one left to speak for me -JohnBurns 1/20/2025 |
Originally Posted By XeonEvolved:
https://imgur.com/ntT1iL5.jpg https://imgur.com/J2I87fK.jpg https://imgur.com/JMZx85O.jpg View Quote |
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"he Deej'd when he should have dodged" ~ Ayada
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@40xb
Elftmann Tactical: ELF Lightweight aluminum stock. It screws on with clamps to the buffer tube. really secure and you get more play with how long you want your stock |
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"he Deej'd when he should have dodged" ~ Ayada
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Originally Posted By Brink89:
Just finished my first build. Build 95% of it enlisted a gunsmith for the gas block roll pin and head spacing. https://imgur.com/ntT1iL5 https://imgur.com/J2I87fK https://imgur.com/JMZx85O View Quote https://imgur.com/a/uLyaNFt oh man is it a nice one |
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Originally Posted By joekizanyu:
Who or what the hell is Virgia? Or do you mean Viagra? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By dlshady:
Glad I'm not the only one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dlshady:
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Originally Posted By Brink89:
@DerpSouth Have any of the PX9 Yeet Cannon pre-orders seen the light of day? As I've now learned 4-6 weeks is the estimate for the ATF approval of the design (so Id blame the alphabet boys). I’m not going to claim to know how the inner workings of PSA or the ATF are but I would think that with just the lowers that have been on the list for a while (not these surprise ones that have popped up) that the variance could be applied for before before the pre-sale that way they know it’s legal to produce before the sale goes live. I had been asking in regards to the Minuteman. I've seen photos of them on the forum so I know they have started releasing them. It's going to be six weeks on Tuesday and I'm still on processing. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Soonershooter12:
"TheTallest's Fist Fucking: The finest fist fucking from Florida to Fayetteville!" |
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Originally Posted By NOLAGT:
Got some of it built up. I wish the grey was a better match. I will still probably try and duracote the mags grey when I put the conversion kits in. Ahh well still can’t wait to pew pew. https://i.imgur.com/e73Pp6M.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:
Your PX-9 YEET? If so, you are the first to report any ship notice for them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Soonershooter12:
"TheTallest's Fist Fucking: The finest fist fucking from Florida to Fayetteville!" |
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