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5/26/2007 11:32:37 AM EDT
My brother in law lives in IL and has to move into Chicago. His rifle is not allowed there. He has asked if he could store it at our house. I have no problem boarding a rifle, but we live in WI.

If my brother in law leaves his rifle at my house, does that constitute an illegal transfer across state lines?

I want to help him, but I don't want to break any laws.

Thanks.
5/26/2007 5:11:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Generally speaking, an immediate family member can in fact "loan" another immediate family member their firearm if in fact BOTH are legally able to own said lent firearm.

Personally, I would stick it in my safe, not go shooting with it & not worry about it. YMMV.

My .o2  
5/26/2007 5:15:07 PM EDT
[#2]
he cannot by law ship across state lines to you....sorry
"Nonlicensees are generally prohibited from acquiring firearms outside their State of residence or transferring firearms to nonlicensees who reside out-of-State. 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5). "

He COULD drive it over and drop it off though : )
5/27/2007 10:56:52 AM EDT
[#3]
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Quoted:
Personally, I would stick it in my safe, not go shooting with it & not worry about it. YMMV.

My .o2   hadDo him a favor = No problem.
Commit a felony = sorry, can't do it.

Just trying to sort out which this is. Was hoping that an FFL or knowledgable LEO could clarify the law as it applies to this situation.


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he cannot by law ship across state lines to you....sorry


No shipping involved. He visits frequently. It would be a simple case of, "I left my rifle at my brother's house." Except there is a state line between our houses.

Could someone please clarify the issue of transfer?
If my brother-in-law leaves his rifle at my house, does that constitute a transfer across state lines?
Are there any other laws that would apply here?

Thanks.
5/27/2007 11:04:55 AM EDT
[#4]
If it's his rifle and he's transporting it and storing it at your house there is no problem as long as it's not a short barreled rifle.

If it's a SBR then you should ask in the C-3 forum here what the best course of action is.
5/27/2007 11:17:46 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
he cannot by law ship across state lines to you....sorry
"Nonlicensees are generally prohibited from acquiring firearms outside their State of residence or transferring firearms to nonlicensees who reside out-of-State. 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5). "

He COULD drive it over and drop it off though : )


He could if he address it to himself, and OP did not open it and simply left it alone waiting for his brother to come claim it someday.

You are allowed to send yourself a rifle out of state.
5/27/2007 1:57:42 PM EDT
[#6]
In general, it's not a problem.  If you're at ALL worried about it, have him put a triggerlock on it that you don't have the combination or keys to.
5/30/2007 8:15:43 AM EDT
[#7]
I finally just called ATF and asked them about it. They said it's no problem for him to leave his rifle at my house. Still his rifle. No naughty transfer.

Figured I might as well share the definitive answer.
5/31/2007 3:51:51 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I finally just called ATF and asked them about it. They said it's no problem for him to leave his rifle at my house. Still his rifle. No naughty transfer.

Figured I might as well share the definitive answer.




Wait until he comes back for it & then tell him, "What rifle?????"    
5/31/2007 4:32:04 PM EDT
[#9]
There are exempted towns in Kook County - even ones bordering the city that are an option. Secondly, there is no problem storing some stuff in Wisconsin. I have some stuff with my parents out there.

5/31/2007 4:35:38 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Personally, I would stick it in my safe, not go shooting with it & not worry about it. YMMV.
 


Yup.