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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:39:49 AM EST
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Pitcher in the OP looks like an automatic. If your going to go throwback, then go throwback...
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:40:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No tape deck? wtf?  ...
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:42:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I regularly set my cruise at 80 in my 22 without any issues, and easily accelerate past that for passing. Have you owned any other vehicle made after 2004 to compare it to? |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:42:56 AM EST
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Quoted: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/retro-toyota-4runner-anniversary https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/1862/1048/4runner.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/1862/1048/4runner-2.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Toyota is going back in time. The automaker has revealed a limited edition version of the 4Runner to celebrate the SUV's 40th anniversary in the U.S. Toyota is building just 4,040 of the 2023 4Runner 40th Anniversary Special Edition trucks. The trim is based on the 4Runner SR5 Premium, but adds several unique touches. Foremost among them is a heritage graphics package with throwback red/orange/yellow striping, which was a popular aesthetic in the era. Toyota has sold over four million 4Runners since it went on sale in 1983 as a 1984 mode There's also a commemorative badge on the tailgate and a set of bronze-colored 17-inch-wheels. The anniversary 4Runner's interior gets unique trim. Inside, the model features bronze stitching and 40th Anniversary logos on the dashboard, floormats and embossed into the headrests. Really cool. https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/1862/1048/4runner-4.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Two-wheel-drive and four-wheel-drive versions will be offered, but only with black, red, or white paint. Toyota also announced that all 4Runners will come standard with its Toyota Safety Sense package of electronic driver aids, including automatic emergency brakes and adaptive cruise control. Toyota will only build 4,040 of the anniversary 4Runners. Toyota will only build 4,040 of the anniversary 4Runners. (toyota) Pricing for th 40th Anniversary Special Edition hasn't been announced, but a standard 2022 SR5 Premium starts at $42,730. That's what passes for retro? 
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:42:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These are the things the 4Runner cultists tell themselves to justify all the shortcomings. Who cares if it's slow as fuck, handles like shit, rides like shit, brakes like shit, and has features that would have looked and felt at home in a 20 year old domestic truck? It's all "charming." I have no idea why people dont like them. The wife has a fairly basic 2019 and it seems nimble and quick to me. So much so that i brake abrupt, oversteer and speed in it until ive driven it for a bit. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:42:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fuck you do. Our 2015 was such a turd if I wanted to pass someone going up a mild incline I had to plan ahead for 10 minutes. My f150 ecoboost doesn’t even downshift and blows past. I’m a Toyota fanboy 100%, but you’re a liar Our GX460 on the other hand, yes, they cruise just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I cruise 80-90mph in my 2017 4runner no problems The fuck you do. Our 2015 was such a turd if I wanted to pass someone going up a mild incline I had to plan ahead for 10 minutes. My f150 ecoboost doesn’t even downshift and blows past. I’m a Toyota fanboy 100%, but you’re a liar Our GX460 on the other hand, yes, they cruise just fine.  ...
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:43:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fuck you do. Our 2015 was such a turd if I wanted to pass someone going up a mild incline I had to plan ahead for 10 minutes. My f150 ecoboost doesn’t even downshift and blows past. I’m a Toyota fanboy 100%, but you’re a liar Our GX460 on the other hand, yes, they cruise just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I cruise 80-90mph in my 2017 4runner no problems The fuck you do. Our 2015 was such a turd if I wanted to pass someone going up a mild incline I had to plan ahead for 10 minutes. My f150 ecoboost doesn’t even downshift and blows past. I’m a Toyota fanboy 100%, but you’re a liar Our GX460 on the other hand, yes, they cruise just fine. I don’t have a lead foot. But I drive 80MPH on my commute and have driven 90MPH for long freeway stretches on road trips. Sounds like your 2015 had some problems or modifications ETA I also got pulled over by the CHP doing 84 with a passenger and 500 pounds of guns, ammo and camping gear. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:44:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So powder coat some stock wheels and throw a set of graphics on it and call it done... way to think outside the box there Toyota At this point it would only impress me if they slapped a turbo diesel 4 cyl in it and a 5 speed manual with removable top. I want a 6th Gen, but if they half ass it I’ll just buy a Bronco |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:44:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you owned any other vehicle made after 2004 to compare it to? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I regularly set my cruise at 80 in my 22 without any issues, and easily accelerate past that for passing. Have you owned any other vehicle made after 2004 to compare it to? What does that have to do with your claim? 4runners very easily maintain interstate speeds. I'm not winning any races, but claiming it struggles on the highway is dumb. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:46:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t have a lead foot. But I drive 80MPH on my commute and have driven 90MPH for long freeway stretches on road trips. Sounds like your 2015 had some problems or modifications You ever notice how most 4R owners have the same consensus? Ever notice how actual owners usually recommend the 460 for potential 4R shoppers? There is a reason for that. Heck last winter I bought a cheap 4th Gen with the 4.7 V8 and it made our 2015 feel even more like a snail |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:46:11 AM EST
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I like it. I realize it's an old drivetrain. So what? I'd buy something like this to take off-road anyway.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:46:39 AM EST
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Hahaha, my wife literally sent me a picture of this version this morning. She's pretty set on getting a 4Runner and she loves this limited edition, gay-pride stripe and all
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:47:04 AM EST
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I wanna supercharged I-6
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:47:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea why people dont like them. The wife has a fairly basic 2019 and it seems nimble and quick to me. So much so that i brake abrupt, oversteer and speed in it until ive driven it for a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These are the things the 4Runner cultists tell themselves to justify all the shortcomings. Who cares if it's slow as fuck, handles like shit, rides like shit, brakes like shit, and has features that would have looked and felt at home in a 20 year old domestic truck? It's all "charming." I have no idea why people dont like them. The wife has a fairly basic 2019 and it seems nimble and quick to me. So much so that i brake abrupt, oversteer and speed in it until ive driven it for a bit. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:47:21 AM EST
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Man I love my old tech 2017 T4R Pro. But I'm a boomer so what can I say. I do wish it had adaptive cruise but that's about it. When it comes time that I need more pep I'll add the Super Charger kit to it.
And that throwback decal is 
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:47:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does that have to do with your claim? 4runners very easily maintain interstate speeds. I'm not winning any races, but claiming it struggles on the highway is dumb. By modern standards, it’s a dog turd at highway speeds. That was my point. Secondly, to you and the guy that edited his post- yeah guys I’m well aware they can hit 80mph. That’s not special when it takes 2.5 minutes to get there. Want to talk about how shitty the brakes are next? |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:49:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These are the things the 4Runner cultists tell themselves to justify all the shortcomings. Who cares if it's slow as fuck, handles like shit, rides like shit, brakes like shit, and has features that would have looked and felt at home in a 20 year old domestic truck? It's all "charming." Cute. Mine doesnt handle like shit at all. Theres various models all with different suspension. As for speed, its a bus and always has been. Anybody who feels the need to drive a truck like this like a rocket, well you get what you get. Its not shortcomings its what makes the model popular, old boring and low tech. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:49:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You ever notice how most 4R owners have the same consensus? Ever notice how actual owners usually recommend the 460 for potential 4R shoppers? There is a reason for that. Heck last winter I bought a cheap 4th Gen with the 4.7 V8 and it made our 2015 feel even more like a snail Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t have a lead foot. But I drive 80MPH on my commute and have driven 90MPH for long freeway stretches on road trips. Sounds like your 2015 had some problems or modifications You ever notice how most 4R owners have the same consensus? Ever notice how actual owners usually recommend the 460 for potential 4R shoppers? There is a reason for that. Heck last winter I bought a cheap 4th Gen with the 4.7 V8 and it made our 2015 feel even more like a snail No, I haven’t noticed most 4Runner owners arguing they can’t go 80MPH on the freeway. It’s just you |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:49:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Southwest Airlines Edition: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64530/F43813EF-8709-46F2-8F17-484F6D6524C9_jpe-2396547.JPG
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:50:11 AM EST
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Msrp 42,700. With "market adjustment" of 15k.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:51:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I haven’t noticed most 4Runner owners arguing they can’t go 80MPH on the freeway. It’s just you Again, they’ll go 80. But not without you hammering down and trying. Meanwhile, everyone else is passing you in 7th or 8th gear barely breaking a sweat. And- they brake like absolute dog shit. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:53:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No mention of the 20 year old 4.0 with 295hp and 0-60 in 12 minutes while being noisy as fuck struggling at highway speed? LOL. I just had my '21 TRD hit 100 with ease.* That is, with a Sprint Booster. Yes, stock throttle response isn't good. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:53:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell us you don’t own one without telling us you don’t own one. Been there done that, they’re turds. The ride like shit, they’re slow as fuck, everything is dated inside- and I still think it’s one of the coolest trucks on the road. But you’re delusional if you think that motor and transmission combo is sufficient on the highway Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The 4Runner does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.9. That's more than good enough for a body on frame 4x4. 278 hp and 278 lb-ft may not sound like a lot in a world where 400+ hp vehicles are marketed prominently, but it's plenty for a vehicle of this size, and it's more than traditional V8s made for a long time. An unmodified 4Runner breaks into the 20 MPG range when cruising, and it easily gets 18 MPG combined. I've never seen a V8 powered truck/SUV hit those numbers without the help of some horse shit like cylinder deactivation. Tell us you don’t own one without telling us you don’t own one. Been there done that, they’re turds. The ride like shit, they’re slow as fuck, everything is dated inside- and I still think it’s one of the coolest trucks on the road. But you’re delusional if you think that motor and transmission combo is sufficient on the highway Sure... except I do own one. A 2022 SR5 Premium. The ride is right in line with most other BOF 4x4s I've driven with IFS and a solid rear axle. If I wanted better, I could have bought a unibody thing with independent suspension all around, but that wasn't a priority. I'm an assertive driver that generally rolls faster than the flow of traffic, and I very rarely break 3,000 RPMs. In most situations, I'm probably within 500 RPMs of where I would have been in my 5.0L Coyote F-150. As far as "dated inside" goes... the aesthetic could be better, but functionally, newer trends are NOT better. Piano black is garbage, and replacing physical controls with haptic touch controls or interfaces in the infotainment unit is an absolutely terrible idea. The 4Runner has physical controls that I can operate without looking and with gloves on my hands. It needed ACP/AA, and it got them. Most of the interior materials are rugged and you can wipe them down with a rag. I'm not sure what else you could ask for. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:54:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By modern standards, it’s a dog turd at highway speeds. That was my point. Secondly, to you and the guy that edited his post- yeah guys I’m well aware they can hit 80mph. That’s not special when it takes 2.5 minutes to get there. Want to talk about how shitty the brakes are next? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What does that have to do with your claim? 4runners very easily maintain interstate speeds. I'm not winning any races, but claiming it struggles on the highway is dumb. By modern standards, it’s a dog turd at highway speeds. That was my point. Secondly, to you and the guy that edited his post- yeah guys I’m well aware they can hit 80mph. That’s not special when it takes 2.5 minutes to get there. Want to talk about how shitty the brakes are next? As the other poster said, you seem to have bought a lemon. I drive around 100 miles at 80 every weekend without issues, which includes a lot of hills. It doesn't struggle, and I can easily accelerate for passing. It doesn't have a lot of power, but you're quite frankly full of shit, and you back pedal every time someone disputes your claims. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:56:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure... except I do own one. A 2022 SR5 Premium. The ride is right in line with most other BOF 4x4s I've driven with IFS and a solid rear axle. If I wanted better, I could have bought a unibody thing with independent suspension all around, but that wasn't a priority. I'm an assertive driver that generally rolls faster than the flow of traffic, and I very rarely break 3,000 RPMs. In most situations, I'm probably within 500 RPMs of where I would have been in my 5.0L Coyote F-150. As far as "dated inside" goes... the aesthetic could be better, but functionally, newer trends are NOT better. Piano black is garbage, and replacing physical controls with haptic touch controls or interfaces in the infotainment unit is an absolutely terrible idea. The 4Runner has physical controls that I can operate without looking and with gloves on my hands. It needed ACP/AA, and it got them. Most of the interior materials are rugged and you can wipe them down with a rag. I'm not sure what else you could ask for. Am I crazy or were you the guy on here bashing the new Tundras for being under-powered and not having enough payload- so you went and bought a tiny aenemic 4Runner? Or am I mixing you up with someone else that has to comment in every single vehicle thread on this forum? |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:57:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fuck you do. Our 2015 was such a turd if I wanted to pass someone going up a mild incline I had to plan ahead for 10 minutes. My f150 ecoboost doesn't even downshift and blows past. I'm a Toyota fanboy 100%, but you're a liar Our GX460 on the other hand, yes, they cruise just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I cruise 80-90mph in my 2017 4runner no problems The fuck you do. Our 2015 was such a turd if I wanted to pass someone going up a mild incline I had to plan ahead for 10 minutes. My f150 ecoboost doesn't even downshift and blows past. I'm a Toyota fanboy 100%, but you're a liar Our GX460 on the other hand, yes, they cruise just fine. Like my other post pointed out; you're blowing smoke out of your ass. Even before I put in the Sprint Booster, 80-90 is no problem at all. And all the SB does is improve throttle response, not add anything. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 10:58:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 4Runner does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.9. That's more than good enough for a body on frame 4x4. 278 hp and 278 lb-ft may not sound like a lot in a world where 400+ hp vehicles are marketed prominently, but it's plenty for a vehicle of this size, and it's more than traditional V8s made for a long time. An unmodified 4Runner breaks into the 20 MPG range when cruising, and it easily gets 18 MPG combined. I've never seen a V8 powered truck/SUV hit those numbers without the help of some horse shit like cylinder deactivation.  I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:00:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As the other poster said, you seem to have bought a lemon. I drive around 100 miles at 80 every weekend without issues, which includes a lot of hills. It doesn't struggle, and I can easily accelerate for passing. It doesn't have a lot of power, but you're quite frankly full of shit, and you back pedal every time someone disputes your claims. I haven’t back pedaled one time. What are you talking about? Again, for the mentally challenged in the group- I’m aware they can hit 80-100 mph. So could my high school truck, a 2004 f150 v6. What’s interesting is that truck and your 4Runner have about the same power and same amount of gears lol Anyway, again, I’ve owned 2 4Runners now, couple LC’s, GX460. And the 4Runners both rode like shit, handled like shit, and braked like shit. But at least the 4th gen v8 had some ass, that’s something you can’t say about your 4.0 I don’t understand why some of you are so offended. Do you identify as these vehicles? Is it your personality trait? It’s just a truck. There are better options. The 4R is still a cool rig, just a turd. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:01:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.YoUr sO fUlL oF cRaP mAn |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:02:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The 4Runner does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.9. That's more than good enough for a body on frame 4x4. 278 hp and 278 lb-ft may not sound like a lot in a world where 400+ hp vehicles are marketed prominently, but it's plenty for a vehicle of this size, and it's more than traditional V8s made for a long time. An unmodified 4Runner breaks into the 20 MPG range when cruising, and it easily gets 18 MPG combined. I've never seen a V8 powered truck/SUV hit those numbers without the help of some horse shit like cylinder deactivation. I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.To be fair to Bass, gas mileage improves with altitude. If I didn't have such a lead foot, I'd easily stay at 20mpg highway. I probably average 18mpg. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:03:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The 4Runner does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.9. That's more than good enough for a body on frame 4x4. 278 hp and 278 lb-ft may not sound like a lot in a world where 400+ hp vehicles are marketed prominently, but it's plenty for a vehicle of this size, and it's more than traditional V8s made for a long time. An unmodified 4Runner breaks into the 20 MPG range when cruising, and it easily gets 18 MPG combined. I've never seen a V8 powered truck/SUV hit those numbers without the help of some horse shit like cylinder deactivation. I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.I have 147k on a 2015 TRD Pro. Lifetime combined average is 17.7mpg. It's not uncommon for me to get 20mpg on the highway when cruising. I drive like an asshole, too, so I'm definitely not babying it. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:04:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I crazy or were you the guy on here bashing the new Tundras for being under-powered and not having enough payload- so you went and bought a tiny aenemic 4Runner? Or am I mixing you up with someone else that has to comment in every single vehicle thread on this forum? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sure... except I do own one. A 2022 SR5 Premium. The ride is right in line with most other BOF 4x4s I've driven with IFS and a solid rear axle. If I wanted better, I could have bought a unibody thing with independent suspension all around, but that wasn't a priority. I'm an assertive driver that generally rolls faster than the flow of traffic, and I very rarely break 3,000 RPMs. In most situations, I'm probably within 500 RPMs of where I would have been in my 5.0L Coyote F-150. As far as "dated inside" goes... the aesthetic could be better, but functionally, newer trends are NOT better. Piano black is garbage, and replacing physical controls with haptic touch controls or interfaces in the infotainment unit is an absolutely terrible idea. The 4Runner has physical controls that I can operate without looking and with gloves on my hands. It needed ACP/AA, and it got them. Most of the interior materials are rugged and you can wipe them down with a rag. I'm not sure what else you could ask for. Am I crazy or were you the guy on here bashing the new Tundras for being under-powered and not having enough payload- so you went and bought a tiny aenemic 4Runner? Or am I mixing you up with someone else that has to comment in every single vehicle thread on this forum? Under powered no. Pathetic payload, yes. A half ton truck that gets 14 MPG and has less payload capacity than a Honda Ridgeline is a bad joke. This T4R with a 3k GVWR utility trailer will be about $10k cheaper than a half ton with comparable options, it will be more reliable long term, and it will have better resale value. Here's the thread from when I bought it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/I-decided-to-give-Toyota-a-go-/5-2551862/? |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:07:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Under powered no. Pathetic payload, yes. A half ton truck that gets 14 MPG and has less payload capacity than a Honda Ridgeline is a bad joke. This T4R with a 3k GVWR utility trailer will be about $10k cheaper than a half ton with comparable options, it will be more reliable long term, and it will have better resale value. Here's the thread from when I bought it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/I-decided-to-give-Toyota-a-go-/5-2551862/? I’m not clicking that I couldn’t care less. I hope the 4Runner meets all of your giant payload needs (which the 4R has even less than the Tundra fyi) and it’s probably getting about 10mpg while doing so. You have no idea the depreciation or reliability of the new tundra yet. Nobody does. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:07:39 AM EST
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I saw a Gen 3 4Runner with a "Historic Vehicle" plate the other day.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:08:58 AM EST
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:09:03 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a Gen 3 4Runner with a "Historic Vehicle" plate the other day. That's pretty cringe |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:10:13 AM EST
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Typical Toyota haters:
"Oh hai guys. I hate reliable vehicles like the 4Runner, but I own this POS Dodge pickup. It's got a new modern engine. I mean yeah its unreliable but it's "modern". Its got all this cool tech in there but yeah its unreliable but it's modern. Yeah I know we are in a supply chain crisis and realize I can't get basic parts to keep an unreliable vehicle running. I prefer to own vehicles that are super unreliable because they are modern." |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:11:09 AM EST
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It will sell out at that number to Toyota fans. The retro stuff is cool but it kinda makes me miss the old stuff more than appreciate all the new overly complicated stuff.
True off-road rides should have low pressure efi and cruise control and not much else. If they have ABS and traction control it should be easily disabled with a switch. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:14:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The 4Runner does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.9. That's more than good enough for a body on frame 4x4. 278 hp and 278 lb-ft may not sound like a lot in a world where 400+ hp vehicles are marketed prominently, but it's plenty for a vehicle of this size, and it's more than traditional V8s made for a long time. An unmodified 4Runner breaks into the 20 MPG range when cruising, and it easily gets 18 MPG combined. I've never seen a V8 powered truck/SUV hit those numbers without the help of some horse shit like cylinder deactivation. I have an unmodified (with exception of roof rack crossbars) 18 TRD Pro and have NEVER broke 20 MPG. In fact I've only hit 18MPG on a few occasions that made me go . One was when I was on a 2800 mile road trip and drove through the mountains. Somehow I got slightly over 18 for a couple of states while going up and down. I come back down to sea level (Florida) and I'm happy to hit 16. Usually 15-16 is normal for me."TRD Pro" is your problem. If you had an SR5, TRD Sport, or Limited, your results would likely be better. Fuelly puts all 4Runners in all configurations and in all situations at ~17.5 MPG overall. Guys with lifted trucks, big offroad tires, towing, sitting in traffic, and driving offroad bring that number down. Guys with stock trucks, highway tires, and rolling on the open road bring that number up. My average is 18.5 MPG. My last tank was 19.1 MPG. I've seen backroad trips as high as 23+ MPG. Driving into the wind at 77 MPH going from KC to Joplin, I still saw ~18 MPG. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:17:00 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical Toyota haters: "Oh hai guys. I hate reliable vehicles like the 4Runner, but I own this POS Dodge pickup. It's got a new modern engine. I mean yeah its unreliable but it's "modern". Its got all this cool tech in there but yeah its unreliable but it's modern. Yeah I know we are in a supply chain crisis and realize I can't get basic parts to keep an unreliable vehicle running. I prefer to own vehicles that are super unreliable because they are modern." Weird- I’ve had to put money in every single Toyota product I’ve ever owned outside of the GX460. But it’s good to know you’re not actually using your badass off roader for it to need parts cool guy lol |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:17:00 AM EST
[#41]
I love my 4th gen but it seems like our road salt loves it even more since its eating away at it. I did want the v8 but it was slim pickings in my are for 4th gens at the time. Its crazy how I’ve had it for almost 7 years and Its value is still there. I do want a 5th gen though, I couldn’t afford it a few years back and I definitely can’t afford it in this economy. There was a member selling me his wrecked 5th gen a while back but I lost his pm. If you’re reading this, I will buy it, pm me. My 4th gen has been a good truck. All I’ve done is maintenance. Only problem was the head gasket issue that plagues the early 4th gens but I’m a mechanic and could do it myself. Its on stock ball joints and tie rods still. Its got like 210k so I think I’ll do those this summer. To the people talking about old tech. Thats why its so reliable, toyota doesn’t mess with something that isn’t broken. Its a reason I told my mom to get a rav4 a couple of years back. It was the only suv that didn’t have a cvt.
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:17:57 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's pretty cringe A mint 3rd Gen would get a pass. Very cool. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:18:34 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical Toyota haters: "Oh hai guys. I hate reliable vehicles like the 4Runner, but I own this POS Dodge pickup. It's got a new modern engine. I mean yeah its unreliable but it's "modern". Its got all this cool tech in there but yeah its unreliable but it's modern. Yeah I know we are in a supply chain crisis and realize I can't get basic parts to keep an unreliable vehicle running. I prefer to own vehicles that are super unreliable because they are modern." "Oh look at how the sides of the road are littered with "modern" vehicles with all these "features" because nobody can keep them running. Those who have these "modern" vehicles that are still somehow running must be spending a fortune having them fixed all the time. Meanwhile I'm here with my 4Runner that never has any problems, but if it did it's so utterly simple I could fix it with an adjustable wrench and some pliers like it's still 1945." |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:19:21 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird- I've had to put money in every single Toyota product I've ever owned outside of the GX460. But it's good to know you're not actually using your badass off roader for it to need parts cool guy lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Typical Toyota haters: "Oh hai guys. I hate reliable vehicles like the 4Runner, but I own this POS Dodge pickup. It's got a new modern engine. I mean yeah its unreliable but it's "modern". Its got all this cool tech in there but yeah its unreliable but it's modern. Yeah I know we are in a supply chain crisis and realize I can't get basic parts to keep an unreliable vehicle running. I prefer to own vehicles that are super unreliable because they are modern." Weird- I've had to put money in every single Toyota product I've ever owned outside of the GX460. But it's good to know you're not actually using your badass off roader for it to need parts cool guy lol Oh hai guys. I like to purposely break a reliable vehicle and then claim its the fault of the mfg. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:19:24 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not clicking that I couldn’t care less. I hope the 4Runner meets all of your giant payload needs (which the 4R has even less than the Tundra fyi) and it’s probably getting about 10mpg while doing so. You have no idea the depreciation or reliability of the new tundra yet. Nobody does. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Under powered no. Pathetic payload, yes. A half ton truck that gets 14 MPG and has less payload capacity than a Honda Ridgeline is a bad joke. This T4R with a 3k GVWR utility trailer will be about $10k cheaper than a half ton with comparable options, it will be more reliable long term, and it will have better resale value. Here's the thread from when I bought it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/I-decided-to-give-Toyota-a-go-/5-2551862/? I’m not clicking that I couldn’t care less. I hope the 4Runner meets all of your giant payload needs (which the 4R has even less than the Tundra fyi) and it’s probably getting about 10mpg while doing so. You have no idea the depreciation or reliability of the new tundra yet. Nobody does. I saw 14-15 MPG towing one of Tractor Supply's 10' utility trailers with random crap on it. Not bad. I know the 3rd gen Tundra launched with a bunch of turbocharger issues that apparently required cab-off repairs. That tells me all I need to know. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:19:48 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit. Every time I think about replacing my 20 year old Toyota, I do a quick cost-benefit analysis and think "nope". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No mention of the 20 year old 4.0 with 295hp and 0-60 in 12 minutes while being noisy as fuck struggling at highway speed? No shit. Every time I think about replacing my 20 year old Toyota, I do a quick cost-benefit analysis and think "nope". My new GX is the most enjoyable vehicle on the highway to drive that I've ever owned. It just rides and drives so nice...I'm not sure why it's so much nicer than my 4Runner but it is. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:19:50 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These are the things the 4Runner cultists tell themselves to justify all the shortcomings. Who cares if it's slow as fuck, handles like shit, rides like shit, brakes like shit, and has features that would have looked and felt at home in a 20 year old domestic truck? It's all "charming." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really wanted to like the 4Runner as a next potential purchase. After renting one, no fucking way. Ride and handle like shit on paved roads, can only imagine the beating on backroads. Interior dated as fuck, it's like stepping back in time to 2001. That it handles like an SUV is part of the charm. It's not your mother in laws crossover. If handling like a jon boat is charming I love my 2011 trail I have no issues like what you describe above.. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:20:57 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical 4Runner cultists: "Oh look at how the sides of the road are littered with "modern" vehicles with all these "features" because nobody can keep them running. Those who have these "modern" vehicles that are still somehow running must be spending a fortune having them fixed all the time. Meanwhile I'm here with my 4Runner that never has any problems, but if it did it's so utterly simple I could fix it with an adjustable wrench and some pliers like it's still 1945." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Typical Toyota haters: "Oh hai guys. I hate reliable vehicles like the 4Runner, but I own this POS Dodge pickup. It's got a new modern engine. I mean yeah its unreliable but it's "modern". Its got all this cool tech in there but yeah its unreliable but it's modern. Yeah I know we are in a supply chain crisis and realize I can't get basic parts to keep an unreliable vehicle running. I prefer to own vehicles that are super unreliable because they are modern." "Oh look at how the sides of the road are littered with "modern" vehicles with all these "features" because nobody can keep them running. Those who have these "modern" vehicles that are still somehow running must be spending a fortune having them fixed all the time. Meanwhile I'm here with my 4Runner that never has any problems, but if it did it's so utterly simple I could fix it with an adjustable wrench and some pliers like it's still 1945." Said like someone that owns an unreliable vehicle but desperately trying to justify their purchase. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:21:01 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical 4Runner cultists: "Oh look at how the sides of the road are littered with "modern" vehicles with all these "features" because nobody can keep them running. Those who have these "modern" vehicles that are still somehow running must be spending a fortune having them fixed all the time. Meanwhile I'm here with my 4Runner that never has any problems, but if it did it's so utterly simple I could fix it with an adjustable wrench and some pliers like it's still 1945." laughing. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 11:21:51 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh hai guys. I like to purposely break a reliable vehicle and then claim its the fault of the mfg. Not the point I’m making at all Toyota vehicles require maintenance too And when you’re using ANY vehicle, things WILL break Toyota isn’t an exception; they just break less frequently |
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