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Originally Posted By Mariner82: Not that Certain International Actors within our gov have a history of doing exactly that or anything. Were I King of America, the absolute rule would be "No nation building. Ever." We're not just not good at it, we really suck at it. The Brits and to a lesser degree the French were good at nation building from the 15th to 17th centuries, but look where it got them: broke and a shadow of their former selves. The policy for shitholes like AFG should be if their ass needs to be kicked, then kick it thoroughly and GTFO leaving noting behind - not even an unspent 9mm round. No rebuilding. If you need your ass kicked, having your country left as rubble is the price. View Quote Umm….yes and no. Nation building works or has potential to work with an educated population. A Base population with foundational, core education across 50% or better. Otherwise it is a complete waste of time and resources. Only thing that brings them in line is the stick. No amount of carrot will change that ! Stick until they cease to exist in numbers to say otherwise or don’t get evolved except to apply stick from the air…until they cease to exist in numbers to say otherwise. Sounds harsh. It is ! It also solves the the fucking problem for decades. They only understand the stick. Give it to them ! |
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Originally Posted By Number1gun: Umm.yes and no. Nation building works or has potential to work with an educated population. A Base population with foundational, core education across 50% or better. Otherwise it is a complete waste of time and resources. Only thing that brings them in line is the stick. No amount of carrot will change that ! Stick until they cease to exist in numbers to say otherwise or don't get evolved except to apply stick from the airuntil they cease to exist in numbers to say otherwise. Sounds harsh. It is ! It also solves the the fucking problem for decades. They only understand the stick. Give it to them ! View Quote |
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You must hate a Democrat as you would the Devil.
Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue. NorCal_LEO-assigned callsign Bulkhead |
Poison - Something To Believe In |
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In the end it only matters who is left, not who started it.
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733508071174832189/876175112737525820/9afd6b887c388b45af15649e714ab0f4f0abcc69986485a9180395da8a29f156.jpg?width=815&height=398 View Quote Reagan met with the Mujahideen not Taliban. Fighting for resources in a traditional fashion complete with looting and pillaging versus fighting for a state that would enforce sharia law even to the point of an obsessive preoccupation with the correct length of young men's pubic hair is what distinguishes the original mujahideen from their Taliban nemesis. CD |
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Riot Squad 2020 Magnificent Unicorn
I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
Originally Posted By Cecenrse: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733508071174832189/876318044681564211/16290008960092520561640886329528.jpg?width=343&height=398 View Quote |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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...proud deplorable...
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Live feed of U.S. Embassy showing fires or bombs nearby, just happened 8:45 am est.
Breaking: The Taliban now control every major city in Afghanistan except for the capital, Kabul. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/zerohedge/feed/~3/K3vqomyy4Pw/russia-chinese-armies-pledge-deepened-military-cooperation-afghanistan-unravels Russian & Chinese Armies Pledge Deepened Military Cooperation As Afghanistan Unravels https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jPii8cp7WI7r6lyY2RPygbh3m_n0s0TDXMgHYPXVC6g/%3Fitok%3Dgc4DbuwE/https/assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/16_9_max_700/public/2021-08/russchinadefministers.jpg View Quote Commies be commies. And yes, Russia is still a Communist state, with KGB Putin running it. And their intel agencies had as much of a hand, if not more, than China did in the events over the last 18 months, including funding Antifa and BLM. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: I know man, I'm pretty sure we all predicted this outcome 20 years ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid: That's a lot of scunion for a bunch of people who wipe their asses with their left hands. We're such a generous nation, they must admire and respect us so much. That's not directed at you, Chief, I'm just feeling a bit chapped. I know man, I'm pretty sure we all predicted this outcome 20 years ago. Yeah. Yeah we did. |
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"Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography." -TxRabbitBane
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Kabul has fallen. No fighting, just handed over to the Taliban.
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
Originally Posted By Mariner82: When since just after WWII has it worked? Pretty much nobody alive today has done it successfully - because we always choose poorly. Further I'd suggest to you that educated populations don't need any nation building help from us, and uneducated populations neither deserve or want it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mariner82: Originally Posted By Number1gun: Umm.yes and no. Nation building works or has potential to work with an educated population. A Base population with foundational, core education across 50% or better. Otherwise it is a complete waste of time and resources. Only thing that brings them in line is the stick. No amount of carrot will change that ! Stick until they cease to exist in numbers to say otherwise or don't get evolved except to apply stick from the airuntil they cease to exist in numbers to say otherwise. Sounds harsh. It is ! It also solves the the fucking problem for decades. They only understand the stick. Give it to them ! Correct. |
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"Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography." -TxRabbitBane
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Kabul has fallen. No fighting, just handed over to the Taliban. CD View Quote
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...proud deplorable...
Free men don't herd well - StromBusa |
...proud deplorable...
Free men don't herd well - StromBusa |
The medias and Biden's reaction to Afghanistan
Giving my pet Eevee a water stone |
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Originally Posted By AZNetEng: I don't have anything good to say about it. Not the cost to our nation in terms of its impact on human life... nothing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Kabul has fallen. No fighting, just handed over to the Taliban. CD I made some good friends and killed some bad people. We killed some groups of dudes who were blinding little girls who learned to read, and one group that cut a kids hand off for learning to write. That dude that got in trouble for beating up that Afghan that was raping boys? That and more was common for a while. It just didn't get found out. We made a small difference to a small group of people for a small bit of time, and the incompetence of our gov fucked it all off. As usual. Was it worth the tax payer money and the good lives lost? I don't want to discuss that today, but we probably all know the answer. |
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"Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography." -TxRabbitBane
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733508071174832189/875034832076435456/7854c37f02425693.jpg?width=658&height=399 View Quote Attached File |
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ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S ON FIRST’ ……updated
version. Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’ Lou: ‘Why not?’ Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’ Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’ Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’ Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’ Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’ Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’ Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’ Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’ Bud: ‘Yes.’ Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’ Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’ Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’ Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’ Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’ Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’ Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’ Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’ Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’ Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’ Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick. Bud: ‘Ok.’ Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’ Bud: ‘That’s right.’ Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’ Bud: ‘Certainly.’ Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’ Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’ Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’ Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’ Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’ Bud: ‘That’s fine.’ Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’ Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’ Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’ Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’ Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’ Bud: ‘I know.’ Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’ Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’ Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’ Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’ Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’ Bud: ‘Correct.’ Lou: ‘Why not?’ Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’ Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’ Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’ Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’ Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’ Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’ Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’ Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’ Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’ Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’ Bud: ‘Third base.’ |
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/1JosOyjD-KbeCQ1T6_V6UGzj4yWRcmMmY4tSLJRGKmk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E8w15mOVcAE4zfU.jpg%3Alarge?width=561&height=398 View Quote I brought about 5# of Lapis Lazuli home from Afg. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid: I made some good friends and killed some bad people. We killed some groups of dudes who were blinding little girls who learned to read, and one group that cut a kids hand off for learning to write. That dude that got in trouble for beating up that Afghan that was raping boys? That and more was common for a while. It just didn't get found out. We made a small difference to a small group of people for a small bit of time, and the incompetence of our gov fucked it all off. As usual. Was it worth the tax payer money and the good lives lost? I don't want to discuss that today, but we probably all know the answer. View Quote Notice the similarity to the leftists in this Country. Oligarchy full of pedophiles that want to dumb down our youth by lowering standards again and again. |
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Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
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Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Unless I'm thinking of a different site, I installed the Telxon wireless inventory there. Did it have a Conex break room that had a mountain dew cooler and a pinball machine in it? View Quote That is the ANA Central Supply Depot about 3mi NW of KAIA. The NATO advisors had our own break room building in the center of the coumpound. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By elcope: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3446/Embassy_Ice_Cream-2053823.gif View Quote Reported. Sorry... I can't stand her face. |
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Wait a minute.. wait a minute.. it might be up. -Mariner82
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Originally Posted By Thunder900: Commies be commies. And yes, Russia is still a Communist state, with KGB Putin running it. And their intel agencies had as much of a hand, if not more, than China did in the events over the last 18 months, including funding Antifa and BLM. View Quote It's interesting because China is no friend of Russia's. Even in the deepest red era. |
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/1JosOyjD-KbeCQ1T6_V6UGzj4yWRcmMmY4tSLJRGKmk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E8w15mOVcAE4zfU.jpg%3Alarge?width=561&height=398 View Quote Makes perfect sense. Joe cleared the lane for them so that they can get access to mine the minerals needed to produce the solar panels and EV batteries that we will be forced (by our government) to buy from them in the near future. Just one more step in us becoming the captive consumer state of the Chinese. They got our manufacturing Next is our transportation and energy sector Then our food once we ban farming and eating meat here in the USA. Gates designed, China made "human chow (now with 20% more Uighers) for everyone". |
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"There is a time for peace and talk and reason; and then, at long last, and only with sadness of heart and mournful admission that all your wisdom and words have failed, you must go kill you some motherfuckers and set some of their shit on fire"
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/1JosOyjD-KbeCQ1T6_V6UGzj4yWRcmMmY4tSLJRGKmk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E8w15mOVcAE4zfU.jpg%3Alarge?width=561&height=398 View Quote The key word in all this is “may.” The gemstone reserves are proven but a lot of the mineral deposits are speculative. They are based on educated guesses, but they are still guesses. I can only speak from my limited perspective, but I know what kinda support the USGS got from us. Even if they have huge reserves, you’d have to build up all the infrastructure to get it out. Then you’d have to bribe all the Afghans to get it out. Then once you get it to the next country, you’d have a whole new set of officials to bribe. You’d be better off mining the seabed or trying to capture a meteor. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Reagan met with the Mujahideen not Taliban. Fighting for resources in a traditional fashion complete with looting and pillaging versus fighting for a state that would enforce sharia law even to the point of an obsessive preoccupation with the correct length of young men's pubic hair is what distinguishes the original mujahideen from their Taliban nemesis. CD View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Reagan met with the Mujahideen not Taliban. Fighting for resources in a traditional fashion complete with looting and pillaging versus fighting for a state that would enforce sharia law even to the point of an obsessive preoccupation with the correct length of young men's pubic hair is what distinguishes the original mujahideen from their Taliban nemesis. CD A problem we’ve had since day one is believing anybody we meet with in anyway represents the various people on the ground in Afghanistan. The people we are negotiating with in Doha could very well end up having no influence over the Taliban on the ground around Kabul. |
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Originally Posted By sharkman6: A problem we’ve had since day one is believing anybody we meet with in anyway represents the various people on the ground in Afghanistan. The people we are negotiating with in Doha could very well end up having no influence over the Taliban on the ground around Kabul. View Quote Don't tell the State Department that or you'll get the look. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By stoner01: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284414/20210814_152543_jpg-2052922.JPG New tool View Quote That is a handsome firearm. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: Don't tell the State Department that or you'll get the look. View Quote When I was in high school I read all the Tom Clancy books. The State Department characters were all seasoned diplomats/spooks. They all spoke the local languages and knew the local culture from both professional training and self study. These characters were well educated and reasoned/practical people who understood both the nuances of diplomacy and how the world really worked. And they knew how to make the two intersect to achieve real results on the ground that would preserve and promote our nation’s interests. Then I got older and went to my first country team meeting. |
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Originally Posted By DarkStar:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76255/1970C369-5FD7-4494-87A5-CA591AC04D85_jpe-2053549.JPG Edited to add: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733391165159768155/876492339907002368/itbtG1Lp.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DarkStar: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Kabul has fallen. No fighting, just handed over to the Taliban. CD
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76255/1970C369-5FD7-4494-87A5-CA591AC04D85_jpe-2053549.JPG Edited to add: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733391165159768155/876492339907002368/itbtG1Lp.png Not reassuring given the value of the US dollar |
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Originally Posted By RSG:
View Quote ANTIFA is learning that the police are there to protect them from the rest of America that wants to be free and left alone (A much larger group than Patriots alone). When people realize the police won’t protect ANTIFA from We the People, ANTIFA will be Hunted and Destroyed. For now, for the most part, ANTIFA is still protected. |
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.
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Originally Posted By RSG:
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You must hate a Democrat as you would the Devil.
Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue. NorCal_LEO-assigned callsign Bulkhead |
Taliban start laughing their ass off when asked about women voting, lol |
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Carter had the embassy in Iran. Clinton had Mogadishu. Obama had Benghazi. Now Biden has Kabul.
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Originally Posted By elcope: That is the ANA Central Supply Depot about 3mi NW of KAIA. The NATO advisors had our own break room building in the center of the coumpound. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AZNetEng: Unless I'm thinking of a different site, I installed the Telxon wireless inventory there. Did it have a Conex break room that had a mountain dew cooler and a pinball machine in it? That is the ANA Central Supply Depot about 3mi NW of KAIA. The NATO advisors had our own break room building in the center of the coumpound. |
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“So, never give up. Continue to fight. You’ll either find a win here and there, or you’ll die fighting. I can accept either of those out comes”- March 31st, 2020 - Until Valhalla
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Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Makes perfect sense. Joe cleared the lane for them so that they can get access to mine the minerals needed to produce the solar panels and EV batteries that we will be forced (by our government) to buy from them in the near future. Just one more step in us becoming the captive consumer state of the Chinese. They got our manufacturing Next is our transportation and energy sector Then our food once we ban farming and eating meat here in the USA. Gates designed, China made "human chow (now with 20% more Uighers) for everyone". View Quote Unless I'm badly mistaken, China's new "Silk Road" through it's Belts and Roads program would go thru Tazjekistan and into Afghanistan to follow the length of the country from the East to the almost the far West end of the country too. |
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I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, 'social justice. |
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