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Originally Posted By evo7011: Saw this on Twitter, but it didn’t make the mainstream news. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By evo7011: Saw this on Twitter, but it didn’t make the mainstream news. Yikes. Just another night in Chicago, unfortunately. More Chicago news: Concealed carry holder returns fire, critically wounding carjacker A concealed carry holder shot and critically wounded an attempted carjacker during an exchange of gunfire Monday morning in the Austin neighborhood. The 45-year-old man was in his car around 1:27 a.m. in the 5500 block of West Crystal Street when a gunman walked up and started shooting, according to Chicago police. The concealed carry holder returned fire, striking the suspect once in the upper chest, police said. The suspect was taken by paramedics to Loyola Hospital where he was listed in critical condition, police said. His gun was also recovered from the scene. The concealed carry holder was not injured in the shooting. Police said the shooting stemmed from an attempted carjacking. |
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Originally Posted By djohn: It almost seems like various federal law enforcement agencies are posting stuff like this on purpose: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28207/usmsog_png-2502041.JPG /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/ThatsBait-133.gif View Quote Wasn't that the guy who started the shooting, by shooting a dog in front of the dog's owner (who was armed)? |
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Originally Posted By Mariner82: How is this not fraud? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mariner82: Originally Posted By djohn: "GUNS 4 UKRAINE" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28207/Fa4jYx5XoAAoq0t_jpg-2502052.JPG
No question that they are misrepresenting their event, by implying that the collected guns will be shipped to another country where they are needed. |
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Originally Posted By JPN: Wasn't that the guy who started the shooting, by shooting a dog in front of the dog's owner (who was armed)? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JPN: Wasn't that the guy who started the shooting, by shooting a dog in front of the dog's owner (who was armed)? Yes, according to the New York Times: Essentially, the jury found that Mr. Harris and Mr. Weaver acted in self-defense in the shooting death of Deputy Federal Marshal William Degan on Aug. 21. https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/09/us/rebuking-the-us-jury-acquits-2-in-marshal-s-killing-in-idaho-siege.html And the LA Times: Degan was killed in self-defense when he and the other marshals fired the first rounds and provoked the shootout. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-07-09-mn-11558-story.html |
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Originally Posted By djohn: Yes, according to the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/09/us/rebuking-the-us-jury-acquits-2-in-marshal-s-killing-in-idaho-siege.html And the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-07-09-mn-11558-story.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By djohn: Originally Posted By JPN: Wasn't that the guy who started the shooting, by shooting a dog in front of the dog's owner (who was armed)? Yes, according to the New York Times: Essentially, the jury found that Mr. Harris and Mr. Weaver acted in self-defense in the shooting death of Deputy Federal Marshal William Degan on Aug. 21. https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/09/us/rebuking-the-us-jury-acquits-2-in-marshal-s-killing-in-idaho-siege.html And the LA Times: Degan was killed in self-defense when he and the other marshals fired the first rounds and provoked the shootout. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-07-09-mn-11558-story.html If my memory isn't off, Randy Weaver wasn't even involved in that initial shootout. The dog detected the Marshals, started barking and went toward them. Harris and Weaver's son followed the dog, to see what had agitated it. The (now dead) Marshal put a burst into the dog, just as Weaver's son caught up enough to see the dog and the person in camo shooting it. Weaver's son shot the person that had just shot his dog, and the rest of the team (who the son had likely not yet seen) started firing at Weaver's son and Harris, hitting and killing Weaver's son. At that point, the person who started the shooting, and the person that had killed the Marshal, were dead, but that led to escalating the incident further, as Harris apparently returned fire (in self-defense) before retreating, and the team initially reported that the first shots fired had killed the Marshal (but could not later explain to investigators how the dead guy had fired something like half a magazine after he died). |
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The whole story is outrageous.
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This isn't going the way they thought it would. Looks like a new target for Kyle.
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Originally Posted By Gopher: This isn't going the way they thought it would. Looks like a new target for Kyle.
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Originally Posted By djohn: It almost seems like various federal law enforcement agencies are posting stuff like this on purpose: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28207/usmsog_png-2502041.JPG /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/ThatsBait-133.gif View Quote I hope they aren't getting PTSD from the replies
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Originally Posted By JPN: Wasn't that the guy who started the shooting, by shooting a dog in front of the dog's owner (who was armed)? View Quote He's the guy that the Marshals say murdered Sam Weaver. I don't recall for certain if they also blamed him for shooting Sam's dog, but it seems like they hung the blame for everything they did on the dead guy, and now they're treating the dead guy as a hero. Remember that Kevin Harris did nothing worthy of criminal conviction when he killed that guy. |
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Originally Posted By ecgRN: New ECD piece. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21318/IMG_20220824_190228215_jpg-2501970.JPG View Quote lol!!! I love it! |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: He's the guy that the Marshals say murdered Sam Weaver. I don't recall for certain if they also blamed him for shooting Sam's dog, but it seems like they hung the blame for everything they did on the dead guy, and now they're treating the dead guy as a hero. Remember that Kevin Harris did nothing worthy of criminal conviction when he killed that guy. View Quote Important points. Thanks. |
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just wanted to give an update on my Mom
she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that |
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Fantomas, thanks for the update on your mom, and best wishes for her continued recovery.
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: He's the guy that the Marshals say murdered Sam Weaver. I don't recall for certain if they also blamed him for shooting Sam's dog, but it seems like they hung the blame for everything they did on the dead guy, and now they're treating the dead guy as a hero. Remember that Kevin Harris did nothing worthy of criminal conviction when he killed that guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Originally Posted By JPN: Wasn't that the guy who started the shooting, by shooting a dog in front of the dog's owner (who was armed)? He's the guy that the Marshals say murdered Sam Weaver. I don't recall for certain if they also blamed him for shooting Sam's dog, but it seems like they hung the blame for everything they did on the dead guy, and now they're treating the dead guy as a hero. Remember that Kevin Harris did nothing worthy of criminal conviction when he killed that guy. Part of the problem is that the story from the marshals changed as physical evidence (that conflicted with their previous story) was found. They have demonstrated that their word is questionable. Their initial claim was that subjects, that they were supposed to be watching, stumbled onto them and opened fire, killing their team member with the first shots. The partially empty magazine that was in the dead guy's gun, said otherwise. Either Weaver's son shot the marshal after seeing him shoot the Weavers' dog, or Harris shot the marshal in the exchange that happened after the dog was shot. Harris (again, if my memory isn't off) claimed that Weaver's son was shot before Harris himself returned fire. |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Good news. |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote excellent news! |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Good news. Prost |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Sounds like things are looking up. Good to hear. Be well. |
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Originally Posted By Gopher: This isn't going the way they thought it would. Looks like a new target for Kyle.
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Officer, I know this looks like a 3d printer, but it totally isn't.....
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Originally Posted By JPN: Part of the problem is that the story from the marshals changed as physical evidence (that conflicted with their previous story) was found. They have demonstrated that their word is questionable. Their initial claim was that subjects, that they were supposed to be watching, stumbled onto them and opened fire, killing their team member with the first shots. The partially empty magazine that was in the dead guy's gun, said otherwise. Either Weaver's son shot the marshal after seeing him shoot the Weavers' dog, or Harris shot the marshal in the exchange that happened after the dog was shot. Harris (again, if my memory isn't off) claimed that Weaver's son was shot before Harris himself returned fire. View Quote And Kevin Harris, as a random dude I never met, has more credibility in this than all the Marshals on the scene put together, just based on the fact that I never heard of him saying anything that later proved to be demonstrably false. |
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Great to hear Fantomas!
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Originally Posted By djohn:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28207/FawZ0h2XgAEeiqi_jpg-2502205.JPG View Quote @Skywarp2203 Somebody photo shop beitodesstrafe head on that guy lol |
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Originally Posted By kbi: @Skywarp2203 Somebody photo shop beitodesstrafe head on that guy lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By djohn:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28207/FawZ0h2XgAEeiqi_jpg-2502205.JPG @Skywarp2203 Somebody photo shop beitodesstrafe head on that guy lol |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Good news! Glad was able to avoid the bag. Those are not pleasant. |
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Originally Posted By evo7011: I'll check it out. I have been to Als and it's decent, but cash only. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124501/82D5579C-92BC-413C-A612-87D7365BA239_jpe-2501104.JPG View Quote |
Sherrie Fanette Rives "CeCe" Riot Queen 1961 - 2021
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What would John Moses Browning do?
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Originally Posted By ecgRN: New ECD piece. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21318/IMG_20220824_190228215_jpg-2501970.JPG View Quote |
Sherrie Fanette Rives "CeCe" Riot Queen 1961 - 2021
Brian Michael Wallace "FCSD2162" 1980 - 2022 Together at last, wreaking havoc in Heaven. |
What would John Moses Browning do?
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote |
Sherrie Fanette Rives "CeCe" Riot Queen 1961 - 2021
Brian Michael Wallace "FCSD2162" 1980 - 2022 Together at last, wreaking havoc in Heaven. |
Originally Posted By JPN: Part of the problem is that the story from the marshals changed as physical evidence (that conflicted with their previous story) was found. They have demonstrated that their word is questionable. Their initial claim was that subjects, that they were supposed to be watching, stumbled onto them and opened fire, killing their team member with the first shots. The partially empty magazine that was in the dead guy's gun, said otherwise. Either Weaver's son shot the marshal after seeing him shoot the Weavers' dog, or Harris shot the marshal in the exchange that happened after the dog was shot. Harris (again, if my memory isn't off) claimed that Weaver's son was shot before Harris himself returned fire. View Quote It's been a while but wasn't Sammy shot in the back and the dog was killed by an MP5? Then Harris shot the marshal with a Mini 14. |
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Originally Posted By Gopher: It's been a while but wasn't Sammy shot in the back and the dog was killed by an MP5? Then Harris shot the marshal with a Mini 14. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gopher: Originally Posted By JPN: Part of the problem is that the story from the marshals changed as physical evidence (that conflicted with their previous story) was found. They have demonstrated that their word is questionable. Their initial claim was that subjects, that they were supposed to be watching, stumbled onto them and opened fire, killing their team member with the first shots. The partially empty magazine that was in the dead guy's gun, said otherwise. Either Weaver's son shot the marshal after seeing him shoot the Weavers' dog, or Harris shot the marshal in the exchange that happened after the dog was shot. Harris (again, if my memory isn't off) claimed that Weaver's son was shot before Harris himself returned fire. It's been a while but wasn't Sammy shot in the back and the dog was killed by an MP5? Then Harris shot the marshal with a Mini 14. I can't remember if I read anything clarifying where (front or back) Weaver's son was shot. Harris was later shot from behind (hit in the shoulder?), in the incident where Weaver's wife was shot and killed while holding a 'deadly assault infant'. Have to wonder about any federal agency that was involved, and willing to (many years later) bring attention to their involvement. |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Great news. Did you make it to Berlin yet? |
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Originally Posted By JPN: I can't remember if I read anything clarifying where (front or back) Weaver's son was shot. Harris was later shot from behind (hit in the shoulder?), in the incident where Weaver's wife was shot and killed while holding a 'deadly assault infant'. Have to wonder about any federal agency that was involved, and willing to (many years later) bring attention to their involvement. View Quote Like I said it's been a while but Bo Gritz used to talk about this on his radio show at great length. He brought out details I had not seen or read anywhere else. The FBI would have killed them all if not for his intervention. I know, Bo-Bo has become something of a punch line to many on this board. |
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Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants
Caddyshack Some men are morally opposed to violence. They are protected by those who are not. Let's Go Brandon!!!!!!!! |
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When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
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Originally Posted By elcope: Great news. Did you make it to Berlin yet? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that Great news. Did you make it to Berlin yet? Tuesday is my Flight |
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A Man's Home Trailer is his White Castle!
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Originally Posted By ecgRN: New ECD piece. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21318/IMG_20220824_190228215_jpg-2501970.JPG View Quote I need one of those. Not joking. |
Sweet baby Jesus on fire. Gonna need a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass outta this.
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When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote This is a big hurdle overcome! Continued prayers for your mum and your family Fantomas. Really glad to hear she won't need the bag. |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Best wishes for a speedy recovery. |
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What would John Moses Browning do?
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Originally Posted By evo7011: Saw this on Twitter, but it didn’t make the mainstream news. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124501/5C61A5DE-8123-49FE-AA3F-2ADACA383394_jpe-2502153.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124501/82D800D5-A59C-46C4-A497-44F797BA0EC8_jpe-2502154.JPG View Quote Chicago is still in the lead, but they shouldn't get too complacent in maintaining that lead. https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/nashville/high-school-freshmen-show-up-to-nashville-school-in-stolen-suv/ |
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Originally Posted By Fantomas: just wanted to give an update on my Mom she had Surgery today and everything went fine. She will spend the next 2 days in ICU. My Cousin talked to the Nurse since nobody is allowed into the Hospital. I am very relived that she did not get a colostomy bag. That was one of the worries we had but her Colonoscopy yesterday did not show any damage to her upper colon. She will be in the Hospital most likely until the 2nd of September thank you to everybody for keeping her in your prayers I really appreciate that View Quote Praying for her recovery. CD |
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Originally Posted By BillyDBerger: I need one of those. Not joking. View Quote Think I got the last one of the run. |
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