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Link Posted: 6/7/2020 9:54:08 AM EDT
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Animals
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 9:55:11 AM EDT
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2 CA Deputies out of Santa Cruz injured, and one killed -- - they walked into an ambush ---  not sure if related to thread...
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Back in the day, Santa Cruz was a hotbed of radical anarchist ideology.  I’m sure that hadn’t changed much.  Until recently, we haven’t seen a ton of domestic ieds.  I’d bet there’s a connection.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 9:56:32 AM EDT
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Wow.

Fuck all that.

Not enough shooting back...
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 9:58:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/7/2020 9:59:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Thunder900:

The Democrats have opened Pandoras Box by enabling these radicals.  They will demand Biden step down for a more suitable candidate.  And if the DNC says no, there will be riots.
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Probably.  Biden represents the same democrat policies and pandering of the last 50 years.  Not nearly “progressive” or edgy enough.

Heck, he is just like the Democrat Governors, Mayors and Police chiefs who have been turning these democrat cities into shit holes of abject poverty and police brutality.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:04:39 AM EDT
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2 CA Deputies out of Santa Cruz injured, and one killed -- - they walked into an ambush ---  not sure if related to thread...


Deputy killed, 2 officers injured after being ambushed in Santa Cruz County

BEN LOMOND, Calif. -- A Santa Cruz County deputy was shot and killed on Saturday afternoon, Sheriff Jim Hart said in a press conference Saturday evening.

The sheriff's office received a report at 1:30 p.m. of a suspicious van with guns and bomb-making devices inside. The vehicle was parked near a turnout near Jamison Creek Road, right outside Ben Lomond.

Hart said when deputies arrived, they saw the van leave and followed the vehicle. As the vehicle pulled into a driveway on Waldeberg Drive, the officers were ambushed with gunfire and many improvised explosives, Sheriff Jim Hart said.

Sergeant Damon Gutzwiller, 38, was shot and taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. Another officer was struck by either gunshot or the other explosives, then struck by a getaway vehicle, Hart said.

Calls of carjacking soon followed as officers from other departments arrived to the scene.

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Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:05:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dannylgriffin:

They all participated in the murder.  Did you see one single cop say, "hey, maybe we should check this guy's pulse since he's been unresponsive for two or thee or four minutes?"  The cop behind Chauvin was putting his weight on Floyd's chest.  Many say that was just as likely to kill him as the neck restriction.  The guy on the legs and the guy running interference with the crowd were accomplices because they did zero to help Floyd who clearly became unresponsive for 4-5 minutes.

WTF were they thinking?  I know what they were thinking.  They thought they could get away with anything, that they could be investigated internally (if even that) and nothing would be found wrong.  Just like before.  Even if they were fired, they'd get rehired back with full backpay via the FOP/PBA.  The truth is, they didn't care.
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No cop America, municipal or federal or tribal or otherwise, has thought this for years.  Believe me.  Regular law refresher training, use of force training and videos from around the world, attorneys addressing musters.... It has been clear for a while that sweeping things under the rug is no longer a thing.  I'll grant you that, what is public facing may look like it, but the investigations that happen behind the scenes are very real indeed.  

Read the article I posted.  Its interesting.  What if it wasn't murder?  I'm not making a judgement one way or the other, but the article makes an interesting case and thought experiment.

Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:07:55 AM EDT
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All this attention black people are getting is making the trannies upset.  They feel left out.  Completely forgotten.

They demand July be known as Tranny Lives Matter month, and have protests and riots and looting just as large or EVEN BIGGER!

You know something like that will happen.  All the victim classes getting jealous of each other...
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:08:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
One FTO will not have two new hires at the same time. It just isn't done and I say this as an FTO.

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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Originally Posted By dannylgriffin:

They all participated in the murder.  Did you see one single cop say, "hey, maybe we should check this guy's pulse since he's been unresponsive for two or thee or four minutes?"  The cop behind Chauvin was putting his weight on Floyd's chest.  Many say that was just as likely to kill him as the neck restriction.  The guy on the legs and the guy running interference with the crowd were accomplices because they did zero to help Floyd who clearly became unresponsive for 4-5 minutes.

WTF were they thinking?  I know what they were thinking.  They thought they could get away with anything, that they could be investigated internally (if even that) and nothing would be found wrong.  Just like before.  Even if they were fired, they'd get rehired back with full backpay via the FOP/PBA.  The truth is, they didn't care.
Reportedly 2 of the cops (Kueng and Thao) were trainees that were on the job for a week and Chauvin was their trainer.
One FTO will not have two new hires at the same time. It just isn't done and I say this as an FTO.

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We may have three or four, depending on the phase of training.

Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:10:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Avidrook:
Help a brother out?

Martin Gugino is the 75 yr old man that was pushed to the ground and allegedly bled from the ear.

There is video of him standing around talking to several people before his encounter with the cops.

Can anyone provide a link to the video?  I thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it or it was deleted.

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Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:12:50 AM EDT
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We may have three or four, depending on the phase of training.

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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By M-1975:
Originally Posted By dannylgriffin:

They all participated in the murder.  Did you see one single cop say, "hey, maybe we should check this guy's pulse since he's been unresponsive for two or thee or four minutes?"  The cop behind Chauvin was putting his weight on Floyd's chest.  Many say that was just as likely to kill him as the neck restriction.  The guy on the legs and the guy running interference with the crowd were accomplices because they did zero to help Floyd who clearly became unresponsive for 4-5 minutes.

WTF were they thinking?  I know what they were thinking.  They thought they could get away with anything, that they could be investigated internally (if even that) and nothing would be found wrong.  Just like before.  Even if they were fired, they'd get rehired back with full backpay via the FOP/PBA.  The truth is, they didn't care.
Reportedly 2 of the cops (Kueng and Thao) were trainees that were on the job for a week and Chauvin was their trainer.
One FTO will not have two new hires at the same time. It just isn't done and I say this as an FTO.

https://i.imgur.com/TpfQNe4.jpg




We may have three or four, depending on the phase of training.

Looking back on the article I read earlier it now says that only Kueng was a trainee: https://news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-death-trainee-officer-tried-to-express-concern-during-deadly-arrest-court-hears-12000760
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Nothing fixes faulty ideas like direct exposure.

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He had some ... choice words.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:21:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:22:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
One FTO will not have two new hires at the same time. It just isn't done and I say this as an FTO.

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We had two "training officers" for these guys. (they had 6 months more experience)

Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:23:06 AM EDT
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I saw a video the other day I think in this thread that I wanted to show my wife. It was of a crazy radical woman (I’m assuming it’s gender and it’s a big assumption) screaming in the face of a young dude who was basically just laughing her off which only enraged her further. I haven’t been able to find it again, does anyone have it?
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:34:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MiloBloom:



Mayor Brown was resisting charging the cops, but Cuomo pushed for felony charges against
the two who gave a fairly gentle push on a known 75-year old agitator.

Meanwhile, Cuomo's shitty decision making causes 50,000 deaths in nursing homes, and he
cites unknown territory.  

Fuck you Cuomo ... fuck you.

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I've been waiting for this. It's a very bad indicator.

What will they do now that the two cops have been arrested?



Mayor Brown was resisting charging the cops, but Cuomo pushed for felony charges against
the two who gave a fairly gentle push on a known 75-year old agitator.

Meanwhile, Cuomo's shitty decision making causes 50,000 deaths in nursing homes, and he
cites unknown territory.  

Fuck you Cuomo ... fuck you.



Well, it’s all in his plan, see?  Effing Andrew Cuomo gives the people a new enemy, a new object to hurl their hate and fury at, and they forget all about the fact HE killed 15,000+ aunts, uncles, grandma’s and pop’s by forcing nursing homes to accept COVID-19 patients, knowing they were the highest risk demographic, and that his decision was a death sentence.

The people of NY should hold Andrew accountable...  I’ll stop there.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:34:50 AM EDT
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Disgusting, sick, and totally pathetic.

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What a miserable piece of shit.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:36:06 AM EDT
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Exactly. Our views and opinions have little credence on the legal standard. I was explaining that to my wife and she thought I was trying to justify the officers actions. She couldn’t understand that the facts could lead up to reasonable doubt. All it takes is 1 person to result in a hung jury.

If they walk because the prosecutor overcharged, it’s going to be absolute mayhem.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:39:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ErikInAZ:

Yup, that’s what I have been saying.  Better a peaceful split now than epic bloodshed.  Our side has no desire to kill 50 million people, but they would have no issues doing it- hell, they are already tweeting about putting us in camps!
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I've pretty much cut off all contact with anyone I know to be a leftist. Thankfully that is a rather small list of people. There aren't too many of those types where I live. But I felt it necessary. Why the hell would I want to associate with people that despise everything I believe in and vice versa? Fuck it. It just isn't worth it anymore. These people are our enemies. And unlike any foreign enemy, these people are actually a threat to our freedom because they live here. They vote here. The biggest threat to American freedom isn't some schmuck in Russia or China. The biggest threat to our freedom comes from within.

This.
The last election cycle showed me there is no more middle ground or common sense with the modern commucrat.
Sometimes divorce is the only option, irreconcilable differences and all.

Yup, that’s what I have been saying.  Better a peaceful split now than epic bloodshed.  Our side has no desire to kill 50 million people, but they would have no issues doing it- hell, they are already tweeting about putting us in camps!

The world is full of places where the American libtards would fit right in. Eastern Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, China, and Russia.  It's time for them to return to the places they came from or the places their ancestors came from.  The USA wasn't meant to be libtardistan and it's about time those who love freedom and the red, white and blue put our collective foot down and stop this shit.  I have no problem with bloodshed and would rather we stop with the foreplay and get it the fuck on.  It's unfortunate we're in this position and down right embarrassing that so many red blooded Americans are fine sitting on their hands while commies take over the country.

ETA: In on 762
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:39:29 AM EDT
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Any bets on if anyone will be charged? 4 were arrested, 3 have been released.

I give it 1 in 10 that anyone is charged.

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Prosecuting minorities in the EU/UK is a hate crime.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:43:54 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ.

Beltfeds needed.
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Jesus Christ.

Beltfeds needed.


Anyone have a link to a saveable video?
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:43:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Avidrook:
Help a brother out?

Martin Gugino is the 75 yr old man that was pushed to the ground and allegedly bled from the ear.

There is video of him standing around talking to several people before his encounter with the cops.

Can anyone provide a link to the video?  I thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it or it was deleted.

Appreciate it

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https://mobile.twitter.com/ShoreProgress/status/1269208271132528640  @Avidrook
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:44:14 AM EDT
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that is just stupid sad


wtf
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:45:35 AM EDT
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Update on the guy with the chainsaw:
https://www.krgv.com/news/mcallen-man-who-charged-at-protesters-with-a-chainsaw-issued-a-17-000-bond

A judge on Saturday set bond at $17,000 for a McAllen man accused of brandishing a chainsaw at protesters.
Daniel Pena, 44, of McAllen is accused of brandishing a chainsaw at protesters during a Black Lives Matter march in downtown McAllen on Friday. The incident was recorded and shared widely on social media.
Protesters were making their way through the downtown area by some businesses. Pena was seen in a truck pulled off to the side of the road. He took down a chainsaw from the bed of the truck and turned it on. He used the machine to intimidate protesters out of the way.
Pena is facing a charge of assault, a Class A misdemeanor, and four charges of deadly conduct, also a Class A misdemeanor.
Municipal Judge Marcus Barrera set bond at $5,000 on the assault charge and $3,000 each on the four deadly conduct charges.
Pena said he would be hiring his own lawyer and refused a court-appointed attorney.




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Homie!

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Exactly. Our views and opinions have little credence on the legal standard. I was explaining that to my wife and she thought I was trying to justify the officers actions. She couldn’t understand that the facts could lead up to reasonable doubt. All it takes is 1 person to result in a hung jury.

If they walk because the prosecutor overcharged, it’s going to be absolute mayhem.
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Originally Posted By slabertooch:
They'll have their day in court, I'm just pointing out the obviousness of the charges as it relates to convincing a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they will all be guilty of all the charges.

Exactly. Our views and opinions have little credence on the legal standard. I was explaining that to my wife and she thought I was trying to justify the officers actions. She couldn’t understand that the facts could lead up to reasonable doubt. All it takes is 1 person to result in a hung jury.

If they walk because the prosecutor overcharged, it’s going to be absolute mayhem.

Can you explain why it would be necessary to kneel on the guy's neck for almost 10 minutes ?  He was subdued and cuffed, was he not ?
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Like "gin martini."
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If chili had beans you wouldn't have to say that is "has beans", it would be already understood, your "has beans" would be superfluous.

Like "gin martini."


Well I get the gin martini point, but I have never had to specify that my chili has beans.

It’s just obvious.

Chili without beans is just meat sauce...
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Well I get the gin martini point, but I have never had to specify that my chili has beans.

It’s just obvious.

Chili without beans is just meat sauce...
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Originally Posted By runcible:
Originally Posted By Crash_Test_Dhimmi:
If chili had beans you wouldn't have to say that is "has beans", it would be already understood, your "has beans" would be superfluous.

Like "gin martini."


Well I get the gin martini point, but I have never had to specify that my chili has beans.

It’s just obvious.

Chili without beans is just meat sauce...

... with chili in it.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:49:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MiloBloom:



Mayor Brown was resisting charging the cops, but Cuomo pushed for felony charges against
the two who gave a fairly gentle push on a known 75-year old agitator.

Meanwhile, Cuomo's shitty decision making causes 5,800 deaths in nursing homes, and he
cites unknown territory.  

Fuck you Cuomo ... fuck you.
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Well said.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:49:33 AM EDT
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Since they came up just a bit short on their million man / women / tranny march, what's next?  Pee your pants in solidarity?  Temper tantrum in place at 3pm?  Drive mom's car through a store front?
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I’ll laugh out loud when they poop on the street and then use it for face paint.

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Link Posted: 6/7/2020 10:57:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ErikInAZ:



Probably.  Biden represents the same democrat policies and pandering of the last 50 years.  Not nearly “progressive” or edgy enough.

Heck, he is just like the Democrat Governors, Mayors and Police chiefs who have been turning these democrat cities into shit holes of abject poverty and police brutality.
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Originally Posted By Thunder900:

The Democrats have opened Pandoras Box by enabling these radicals.  They will demand Biden step down for a more suitable candidate.  And if the DNC says no, there will be riots.



Probably.  Biden represents the same democrat policies and pandering of the last 50 years.  Not nearly “progressive” or edgy enough.

Heck, he is just like the Democrat Governors, Mayors and Police chiefs who have been turning these democrat cities into shit holes of abject poverty and police brutality.


And he has made statements that they can likely use to portray him as just another old white racist.  Get him trying to defend himself against accusations of racism, without a teleprompter or script, and he'll probably dig that hole deeper and bury himself.
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Help a brother out?

Martin Gugino is the 75 yr old man that was pushed to the ground and allegedly bled from the ear.

There is video of him standing around talking to several people before his encounter with the cops.

Can anyone provide a link to the video?  I thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it or it was deleted.

Appreciate it




https://twitter.com/ShoreProgress/status/1269208271132528640






Thank you
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Originally Posted By 36trap:

The world is full of places where the American libtards would fit right in. Eastern Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, China, and Russia.  It's time for them to return to the places they came from or the places their ancestors came from.  The USA wasn't meant to be libtardistan and it's about time those who love freedom and the red, white and blue put our collective foot down and stop this shit.  I have no problem with bloodshed and would rather we stop with the foreplay and get it the fuck on.  It's unfortunate we're in this position and down right embarrassing that so many red blooded Americans are fine sitting on their hands while commies take over the country.
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Originally Posted By JohnParker55:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I've pretty much cut off all contact with anyone I know to be a leftist. Thankfully that is a rather small list of people. There aren't too many of those types where I live. But I felt it necessary. Why the hell would I want to associate with people that despise everything I believe in and vice versa? Fuck it. It just isn't worth it anymore. These people are our enemies. And unlike any foreign enemy, these people are actually a threat to our freedom because they live here. They vote here. The biggest threat to American freedom isn't some schmuck in Russia or China. The biggest threat to our freedom comes from within.

This.
The last election cycle showed me there is no more middle ground or common sense with the modern commucrat.
Sometimes divorce is the only option, irreconcilable differences and all.

Yup, that’s what I have been saying.  Better a peaceful split now than epic bloodshed.  Our side has no desire to kill 50 million people, but they would have no issues doing it- hell, they are already tweeting about putting us in camps!

The world is full of places where the American libtards would fit right in. Eastern Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, China, and Russia.  It's time for them to return to the places they came from or the places their ancestors came from.  The USA wasn't meant to be libtardistan and it's about time those who love freedom and the red, white and blue put our collective foot down and stop this shit.  I have no problem with bloodshed and would rather we stop with the foreplay and get it the fuck on.  It's unfortunate we're in this position and down right embarrassing that so many red blooded Americans are fine sitting on their hands while commies take over the country.


I am not against bloodshed.  I am against killing ALL the commie Lefties, which probably number 50 million.  As our ideologies are so diametrically opposed, we cannot live together.  Either we split the country, or we kick them all out, as has been suggested above.

This insanity can’t be allowed to continue.  And the pandering we are seeing is downright embarrassing.

Looking at the Left, their solution for us would be flat out killing us (good luck with that) or re-education camps.  They have admitted this.  They’re good with killing 50-75 million Americans, or using torture to brainwash us!  It’s all over twitter and FB.  

The Left is delusional, and they are gonna set off a Hot CW2 that they will immediately regret.

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Originally Posted By 36trap:

The world is full of places where the American libtards would fit right in. Eastern Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, China, and Russia.  It's time for them to return to the places they came from or the places their ancestors came from.  The USA wasn't meant to be libtardistan and it's about time those who love freedom and the red, white and blue put our collective foot down and stop this shit.  I have no problem with bloodshed and would rather we stop with the foreplay and get it the fuck on.  It's unfortunate we're in this position and down right embarrassing that so many red blooded Americans are fine sitting on their hands while commies take over the country.

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Originally Posted By ErikInAZ:
Originally Posted By JohnParker55:
Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I've pretty much cut off all contact with anyone I know to be a leftist. Thankfully that is a rather small list of people. There aren't too many of those types where I live. But I felt it necessary. Why the hell would I want to associate with people that despise everything I believe in and vice versa? Fuck it. It just isn't worth it anymore. These people are our enemies. And unlike any foreign enemy, these people are actually a threat to our freedom because they live here. They vote here. The biggest threat to American freedom isn't some schmuck in Russia or China. The biggest threat to our freedom comes from within.

This.
The last election cycle showed me there is no more middle ground or common sense with the modern commucrat.
Sometimes divorce is the only option, irreconcilable differences and all.

Yup, that’s what I have been saying.  Better a peaceful split now than epic bloodshed.  Our side has no desire to kill 50 million people, but they would have no issues doing it- hell, they are already tweeting about putting us in camps!

The world is full of places where the American libtards would fit right in. Eastern Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, China, and Russia.  It's time for them to return to the places they came from or the places their ancestors came from.  The USA wasn't meant to be libtardistan and it's about time those who love freedom and the red, white and blue put our collective foot down and stop this shit.  I have no problem with bloodshed and would rather we stop with the foreplay and get it the fuck on.  It's unfortunate we're in this position and down right embarrassing that so many red blooded Americans are fine sitting on their hands while commies take over the country.

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At some point (I don't remember if it was when Trump got elected, or one of the other times leftists were threatening to leave the country), there was a woman that had made a post on social media that she was going to leave the US, because it was becoming so backward.  Some time later, someone asked her why she had not left yet.  Her reply was that she had researched the options, found the country that she thought was ideal (progressive government, etc), and contacted their embassy to enquire about immigrating, but that they refused to accept her due to not having job qualifications that they felt were needed in their country.

The other countries don't want our trash, either.
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Peggy Traeger Tierney

The Truth about George Floyd, ANTIFA, CAIR & Keith Ellison's Minnesota
Here's the truth about this case they don't want you to know. The article is a work in progress & needs more citations. I will be updating it often as I learn new information. But, I think it's important to tell you what I've learned so far.


It only took the Communists 9 days to engineer Floyd's death, loot & torch Minneapolis & shut down the Minneapolis police department! They pulled another Jussie & the world fell for it.


Why? So they can build a huge corridor of new public housing & tent cities on Lake Street for absentee ballot mills to control the vote in Minnesota from Hennepin County, dismantle the police & push through cheat-by-mail for the Democrats.


CAIR, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, Black Bloc, the Youth Liberation Front, Occupy Wall Street & Sojourners are all front organizations for the Communist Party in the United States. They operate liberal activist groups, fake religious groups, social justice groups & mercenaries whose goal is the overthrow of America.


AG Barr just declared left-wing ANTIFA a terrorist organization. It is a militant group that was started in 1932 by the COMMUNIST Party of Germany. It has since infiltrated and overtaken many other organizations in America.


George Floyd had prior connections to Keith Ellison, Mayor Jacob Frey, Hollywood, CAIR, Derek Chauvin & Amy Klobuchar.


Keith Ellison is the defacto leader of ANTIFA & CAIR in Minnesota. His son, Jeremiah, who runs the Minneapolis City Council, just pledged his allegiance to ANTIFA & his plan to shut down the police department & replace it with "community out-reach."


Keith Ellison is good friends with the LEADER of Portland's Rose City ANTIFA, Luis Enrique Marquez, which flies the Communist flag.


George Floyd & Derek Chauvin KNEW each other & worked security together at a Latino restaurant, called El Nuevo Rodeo, on Lake Street & 27th in Minneapolis.


The face of that restaurant, Maya Santamaria, with a history of problems, ran the business for the Sabri family who want to develop Lake Street for the refugee community as an extension of Cedar Riverside. Santamaria & Frey are good friends.


Sabri, from Jordan, is the developer behind the Somali mall on East Lake Street - and wants to build ANOTHER Somali mall on East Lake Street. His projects are backed by Ellison, Omar & Frey. Sabri has long wanted to build condominiums on Lake Street and been turned down.


Sundance reports that the El Nuevo Rodeo restaurant is likely a money-laundering & counterfeit money front for the Sabri family that was forced to close during COVID. El Nuevo was looted during the riots.


Omar Investments Inc. has owned El Nuevo Rodeo Cantina and night club since 1996.  The principle of Omar Investments Inc. is Muna Sabri. In 2001, Basim Sabri was captured by the FBI in a sting operation. The Sabris are a wealthy family with a history of bribing Minneapolis city officials.


Basim Sabri claimed that Abdi Warsame, who sits on Ellison's Minneapolis City Council, took bribes from him.


Born in Somalia, Warsame was brought to Minnesota from London by Soros to master the absentee ballot vote in Minnesota and FLIP it blue. He began by running Cedar Riverside & turning it into a ballot making machine - which elected Ilhan Omar & Keith Ellison. He's succeeded in controlling the vote in Minnesota through voter fraud & 3rd party ringers.


Derek Chauvin worked at El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years. That puts Derek Chauvin showing up to work security at El Neuvo Rodeo right after the FBI busted Basim Sabri.


Cup Foods owner, Mahmoud Abumayyaleh, a Black Lives Matter activist from the Middle East, whose employee called the cops on George Floyd for passing a wet $20 counterfeit bill, knew George Floyd - who was a regular at the store. Who else did Mahmoud know?


It was Mahmoud's Facebook post that announced George's death and called it a racist murder. The day after George's death, Mahmoud went on every major network to tell his story and called for the immediate arrest of all 4 officers. His partners at CAIR did the same thing.


Within 6 hours after George died, a "community journalist" associated with Mahmoud had sent the "video" to the media & the family hired Ben Crumb, the attorney behind Trayvon Martin, and Shaun King of Black Lives Matters was ratcheting up the noise. Within 12 hours, Frey held a press conference with the MPD. Within 18 hours, all 4 officers were fired. An hour later, Frey led a Town Hall on the case. It's like it was all planned ahead of time.


It took Frey 4 days to respond to the riots, after the entire city had been looted & burned, but within 6 hours he planned a press conference on the Floyd death? PLANNED.


There is body cam footage from all 4 officers which we've NEVER seen, only the cell phone video from a stranger and the Cup Foods surveillance video from a man who is anti-American, anti-police and works for Black Lives Matters. Why?


The first two officers on the scene, when called from Cup Foods about George Floyd passing a counterfeit $20 bill, were rookies, each with less than 4 shifts as police officers.


It was his FOURTH day as a police officer when Thomas Lane, 37, pulled his weapon on George Floyd and asked him to put his hands on the steering wheel of his car.  Lane asked Floyd if he was ON something due to the foam coming out of his mouth. Floyd mumbled "I can't breathe."


J Alexander Kueng, 26, is a rookie cop who was working his THIRD SHIFT EVER as a police officer when he encountered George Floyd.  He stood on the passenger side of Floyd's car, while Lane held a gun on him. Kueng, who identifies as an African-American, now faces 40 years in prison for the so-called "racist murder" of a fellow African-American.


Chauvin and his partner showed up late to the scene and helped the two rookies try to maneuver Floyd into the patrol car. They failed. Chauvin pulled him to the ground and kneeled on him.


Many believe the man who kneeled on Floyd was NOT really Chauvin but a stand-in. Look at this photo of Chauvin 2 years ago with his wife, a Laos refugee, who ran for Mrs Minnesota in 2018. And this photo of the original mug shot compared to the kneeler. You decide.


Not only was Chauvin employed by El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years,  he and he wife are real estate agents, own a home in Minnesota AND Florida, are residents of Florida and run an AirBNB there. Up until last week, Chauvin's wife said he was the "most gentle" man she's ever known. Now she filed for divorce and said he's a murderer. Quite a shift in a short period.


Even more confusing, the media is now claiming Chauvin is a Republican who committed voter fraud by voting for Trump in Minnesota while being a Florida resident. Think about that latest spin.


George Floyd had sickle cell anemia & heart disease & lethal levels of fentanyl & heroin in his body as well as meth, speed & marijuana in his body at the time of death.  No one mentions this at all. Why?


Sickle cell anemia reduces oxygen to your brain & tissues and lowers life expectancy by over 20 years in a HEALTHY individual. Fentanyl slows oxygen to your brain & both meth & speed can cause cardiac arrest.


The autopsy was performed on May 26th but the actual report was not released to the public until days later, AFTER cities were torched & burned. The toxicology report was complete on May 31st but the results were quietly released to the public on June 4th. Why?


Floyd tested positive for COVID two months ago, so he DID NOT die from that. He had recovered & had anti-bodies. Fake narrative to cover the drugs.


Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach, while ransacking her home for money & drugs in Texas in 2007, & served 5 years in prison for armed robbery. He came to Minnesota in 2014 when he got out. How did he get a job working security with Chauvin? Who did his background check?


George Floyd was a porn star - his screen name was BIG FLOYD - and his "work" appeared on a Middle-Eastern porn site called Habib...


Klobuchar declined to prosecute Derek Chauvin for a police shooting that took place in 2006 that went to a grand jury. He was later cleared. So she knew who he was.


If people think Communists wouldn't drug, murder or pay someone to be a patsy to start a race riot to get rid of the police, and engineer a murder for the cameras, you need to get out in the real world!


Within 24 hours of Floyd's death, thousands of rioters looted & torched Minneapolis while the police stood down and let it burn. It didn't JUST happen. Engineered by Communists!


On the day the riots started, Mayor Frey had just mandated masks for everyone & the first looting happened at a Target store right near Cedar Riverside. It was looted, not torched. How convenient. All rioters wearing masks!


Target Stores, a retail operation founded by the liberal Dayton family, the same family of Minnesota's previous Democrat Governor Mark Dayton, immediately donated to Black Lives Matter and shut down ALL their stores to escape further damage. Coincidence? I think not. CAIR organized the looters. ANTIFA organized the arsonists.


When asked why he allowed rioters to loot in large groups but banned churches from worshipping in large groups, Walz had no answer.


How do Communists overthrow a city? A country? They engineer a murder, start a race war, loot it & burn it down and then get YOU to blame yourself so you'll turn over your guns, kiss their feet and beg to be taken care of. Got it? Don't be suckered.


George Floyd JUST HAPPENED to die on Memorial Day. One of the Communist Party's main goals is to REPLACE all American traditions. Valentine's Day is now known as the day of the Parkland school massacre. Easter Sunday is now known as the day churches closed to honor the Day of the Dead for COVID-19. D-Day is now known as the day Black Lives Matters marched on Washington DC. What do they have planned for the 4th of July?


Communists want you to think America is divided by race. We are not. There is ONLY one DIVIDE: COMMUNIST vs FREE PEOPLE.


CNN, MSNBC & every Democrat leader in America has been shaming beach goers for not "social distancing" and telling the faithful they'll DIE if they go to church but they have no problem with mobs of thousands rioting, burning & looting!


The Minneapolis Police Department has a RULE that if one officer sees another officer using excessive force, they MUST intervene to STOP it, or report it. The Minneapolis City Council is pretending that RULE never existed.


3rd precinct in Minneapolis was taken over by rioters & set on fire after AG Keith Ellison & his son Jeremiah of the Minneapolis City Council told Mayor Frey to stand down and let it burn. Police were told to pack up and leave two days earlier.


Trump ordered the military to get ready to deploy to Minneapolis without discussing it with Walz or Frey. Prudent move. They BOTH refused to call in the Guard for 4 days and ONLY did so because the FBI warned them the Minnesota State Capitol was the next target. A US Department of Justice plane with DOJ/FBI personnel just landed at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport!


PRESIDENT TRUMP: "The National Guard has been released in Minneapolis to do the job that the Democrat Mayor couldn’t do. Should have been used 2 days ago & there would not have been damage & Police Headquarters would not have been taken over & ruined.

Great job by the National Guard. No games!"


President Trump brought in 10,800 Minnesota National Guard to bring peace to the Twin Cities. Walz & Frey used 350.


Mayor Frey said Minneapolis didn't need the police or the National Guard to stop the looting & torching. He said the "community" could stop the riots!


Mayor Frey said he told police to let the 3rd precinct burn because "buildings" just aren't that important! Then he started crying. Then he lashed out at President Trump. Trump mocked his weakness.


GINGRICH: Mayor Frey didn't want to arrest anyone. If rioters believe they won’t be arrested, they'll come back again & again.


After 3 days of looting & torching, and being shamed by President Trump, Governor Walz finally said HE was in charge NOW and blamed Minneapolis Mayor Frey for the damage.


MAYOR GIULIANI: "When the Mayor of Minneapolis asked his police to flee from their police precinct, he proved he is incapable of protecting his own people, their property or their lives.

This is the result of the criminal friendly policies of so-called Progressive Democrat mayors and governors."


Governor Walz thought a curfew would make the rioters pack up & go home. LIES. He knows damn well that only law abiding citizens OBEY stay-at-home orders!


Walz declared 80% of the violence was committed by out-of-state.  Hennepin County & Ramsey County Jail records showed 80% of those arrested in Minnesota for rioting, looting & torching were Minnesotans, an ANTIFA Communist stronghold.


George Floyd's original autopsy reported there are NO physical findings that support death by trauma, lack or oxygen or strangulation! The KNEE had nothing to do with George's death. If Chauvin was using undue pressure it would have caused trauma. It did not. He had underlying heart problems & heavy drugs in his system.


Officer Chauvin was arrested IMMEDIATELY yet rioters CONTINUED to loot & torch Minneapolis. See? This is NOT about race or George Floyd.


Everyone is so worried about being called a racist they'll ACCEPT anything. George Floyd's death had NOTHING to do with RACE. Same people who say all 4 cops are racist killers said Jussie was lynched, Yanez was guilty & the Covington boys were evil. STOP!


Taylor Swift just tweeted that George Floyd's death is proof President Trump is "stoking the fires of white supremacy and racism."


Mayor Frey immediately transferred the George Floyd case to AG Keith Ellison, the Communist leader of ANTIFA & CAIR in Minnesota. He said he's lost confidence in Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman. Why? He didn't do as he was TOLD & bypass DUE PROCESS.


Right after the video surfaced, Freeman said he had evidence Chauvin could be exonerated. The next day he was forced to charge Chauvin and hand over the case to Ellison  REWROTE THE COMPLAINT & charged ALL FOUR OFFICERS with felony 2nd degree murder.


Felony murder means that ANY officer going forward who restrains a fleeing criminal in ANY manner can be charged with murder. Perfect timing for the next round of riots, huh?


The neck restraint that Chauvin used is LEGAL in the MPD and is often used to render violent drug addicts unconscious. Why? Because people on heavy drugs FEEL NO PAIN and are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. The neck restraint has been used 44 times in the past 5 years on suspects of every race. They don't want you to know that.


By the way, public housing complexes, like Cedar Riverside, are HUGE voter fraud mills for the Democrats; where they create & fill out absentee ballots!


Remember last year when a career felon was RELEASED to throw a 5-year-old boy off the 3rd floor balcony of Minnesota's Mall of America? How many rioted because of a horrendous crime by a black male against a white child? NONE.


TRUMP: These ORGANIZED GROUPS have NOTHING to do with George Floyd. It’s ANTIFA & the Radical Left. Don’t lay blame on others!


ANTIFA Communists teach recruits to race-bait, heckle & mock Trump supporters, shame them & make them feel ridiculous, weak & outnumbered, in order to destroy them.


New ANTIFA recruits meet their handlers at local Starbucks and receive HOURS of lectures and combat training at Black Lives Matter front "bookstores."


BARR: "It's a federal crime to cross state lines or use interstates to incite or participate in violent rioting. The violence is planned, organized & driven by anarchtic, left-wing extremist groups using Antifa-like tactics.”


In 2017, Minneapolis Officer Mohamed Noor shot Justine Damond in the stomach in her pajamas & it took 8 months for the Hennepin County Attorney, Mike Freeman, to charge him.  Noor was NEVER fired. He was given PAID LEAVE for 8 months until he was charged.


All 4 officers were FIRED the day after George Floyd's death and all 4 cops were called racist murderers before anyone saw their faces. They were all charged with murder within 9 days. NO DUE PROCESS.  


The riots are a test run for November. Ellison overcharged all four officers so they will get off and the riots can start again. To force us to stay home so we can't vote for Trump on election day.


Every RIOT is happening in Democrat-run cities with budget problems & they've ALL declared national emergencies for Federal funds. Coincidence?


These riots accomplished one good thing. They made people understand the TERROR that GOOD cops face everyday & why we need them.


Most disturbing part to me of the riots, looting & torching are bystanders hanging out partying as if destruction is entertaining. 3rd world mentality.


Huge studies by Harvard & the Washington Post found that police officers in America are NOT racist & are often VICTIMS of violence!


Not only is there NO evidence that cops are racist in America, the data shows they actually bend over backwards NOT to be racist!


Do you guys realize George Floyd encountered over 100 cops with no fatal issues before 2020? Why stay committed to crime if you know cops are "bad?" I pray for his family. The Black Lives Matter war against all Cops is ridiculous.


Ignorant liberals are kneeling before the Communists of Black Lives Matter, kissing their feet, shaving their heads, holding up their hands in praise & washing the streets of their terror. This is the same maneuver the National SOCIALIST Germany Worker's party (NAZI) used to dehumanize the Jewish people before they sent them to the gas chambers.


Why does Colin Kaepernick kneel? Because he is praying to ALLAH. When you kneel, you do the same and the DEVIL laughs.


The Mayor of DC, another Communist Black Lives Matter activist, ordered the city to paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on the streets in front of the White House and renamed it Black Lives Matter Blvd. Then she instructed the National Guard to leave the city and leave the White House undefended. See where this is going?


The website of Black Lives Matter states their purpose is to protect transgender, queer & black women against oppression and DEFUND the police. How could BLM support George Floyd who held a GUN to the stomach of a PREGNANT woman and demeaned women in pornographic videos? Total hypocrisy. BLM started in 2016 to take down Trump & overthrow America.


Today, Black Lives Matter ADDED "Black Lives Matter = DEFUND THE POLICE" to their graffiti outside the White House. THERE. Clear as day what this is all about.


George Floyd did NOT deserve to die but his death was NOT caused by racism. Ellison/Frey withheld evidence from the public for 9 days in order to race-bait & fuel massive destruction in America on behalf of the Communist Party. George Floyd deserves our love & compassion but he did not die a hero or a martyr. He should not be glorified as another Martin Luther King.


And just like that, the VIRUS is gone! The invisible enemy was sent to strike fear into the hearts of the American people so they would be ripe for an invasion by the VISIBLE enemy


Another Communist HOAX and we fell for it again. After Stormy, Jussie, Russia Russia, Covington, Kavanaugh, Impeachment, virus & RIOTS, what's their next scheme? Are you tired of all the left-wing BS yet?


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At some point (I don't remember if it was when Trump got elected, or one of the other times leftists were threatening to leave the country), there was a woman that had made a post on social media that she was going to leave the US, because it was becoming so backward.  Some time later, someone asked her why she had not left yet.  Her reply was that she had researched the options, found the country that she thought was ideal (progressive government, etc), and contacted their embassy to enquire about immigrating, but that they refused to accept her due to not having job qualifications that they felt were needed in their country.

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Here’s a partial list of those hypocrites. I don’t think anyone left the US.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/01/16/where-are-they-now-these-23-celebrities-said-theyll-leave-the-country-if-trump-wins-n2272070
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Those are some seriously soft looking people.

If it wasn't for the vests and guns I'd think they were protesting office workers from a temp-to-hire staffing agency or some similar lame shit.
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Those are some seriously soft looking people.

If it wasn't for the vests and guns I'd think they were protesting office workers from a temp-to-hire staffing agency or some similar lame shit.


Diversity hires.
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They catch this asshole?

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That's the way I see it too.
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The 3 cops were overcharged

They all participated in the murder.  Did you see one single cop say, "hey, maybe we should check this guy's pulse since he's been unresponsive for two or thee or four minutes?"  The cop behind Chauvin was putting his weight on Floyd's chest.  Many say that was just as likely to kill him as the neck restriction.  The guy on the legs and the guy running interference with the crowd were accomplices because they did zero to help Floyd who clearly became unresponsive for 4-5 minutes.

WTF were they thinking?  I know what they were thinking.  They thought they could get away with anything, that they could be investigated internally (if even that) and nothing would be found wrong.  Just like before.  Even if they were fired, they'd get rehired back with full backpay via the FOP/PBA.  The truth is, they didn't care.

That's the way I see it too.


The way I see it is that one cop was managing the upset crowd. I don't see it reasonable to turn his back on them and lose control of the situation. Its reasonable he would have expected three other officers should have able to handle the situation. He could and should have verbally checked with Chauvin to see if everything was OK, and suggest he heed the concerns of the firefighter telling him to check on Floyd. I'm not sure if I'd really say his inaction is worthy of a murder charge though.

The other two guys were in their first week being trained and supposedly they did suggest to Chauvin to roll him over. I don't see it reasonable to charge them either especially if they did suggest to Chauvin to adjust and he as the trainer told them no.

Chauvin should fry. And I think he will be convicted.
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So did the guy on the ground die? He was walking around afterwards.
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In my fifteen at this job, while we have different phases of training. It is always one FTO with one new hire. We do four phases. Phase one through three is the FTO assists, teach, etc... Phase Four is the Silent Phase where the FTO watches the rookie figure things out on his/her own and only jumps in as a parnter or if shit get really bad. But it is always one FTO to one new hire. Never have I seen one FTO with multiple new hires at the same time.
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They all participated in the murder.  Did you see one single cop say, "hey, maybe we should check this guy's pulse since he's been unresponsive for two or thee or four minutes?"  The cop behind Chauvin was putting his weight on Floyd's chest.  Many say that was just as likely to kill him as the neck restriction.  The guy on the legs and the guy running interference with the crowd were accomplices because they did zero to help Floyd who clearly became unresponsive for 4-5 minutes.

WTF were they thinking?  I know what they were thinking.  They thought they could get away with anything, that they could be investigated internally (if even that) and nothing would be found wrong.  Just like before.  Even if they were fired, they'd get rehired back with full backpay via the FOP/PBA.  The truth is, they didn't care.
Reportedly 2 of the cops (Kueng and Thao) were trainees that were on the job for a week and Chauvin was their trainer.
One FTO will not have two new hires at the same time. It just isn't done and I say this as an FTO.

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We may have three or four, depending on the phase of training.

In my fifteen at this job, while we have different phases of training. It is always one FTO with one new hire. We do four phases. Phase one through three is the FTO assists, teach, etc... Phase Four is the Silent Phase where the FTO watches the rookie figure things out on his/her own and only jumps in as a parnter or if shit get really bad. But it is always one FTO to one new hire. Never have I seen one FTO with multiple new hires at the same time.




This.  I was a training officer for most of my career.  I've never heard of two trainees in the same car with one FTO.  Sure I would get a different rookie in EACH for the four phases, but only one at a time.
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Can you explain why it would be necessary to kneel on the guy's neck for almost 10 minutes ?  He was subdued and cuffed, was he not ?
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They'll have their day in court, I'm just pointing out the obviousness of the charges as it relates to convincing a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they will all be guilty of all the charges.

Exactly. Our views and opinions have little credence on the legal standard. I was explaining that to my wife and she thought I was trying to justify the officers actions. She couldn’t understand that the facts could lead up to reasonable doubt. All it takes is 1 person to result in a hung jury.

If they walk because the prosecutor overcharged, it’s going to be absolute mayhem.

Can you explain why it would be necessary to kneel on the guy's neck for almost 10 minutes ?  He was subdued and cuffed, was he not ?


1. How many times has this kneeling action been used, against similarly sized and muscled arrestees, by similarly weighted officers, and not caused death or lasting injury?

George was a huge person that used his stature to intimidate people for a living. The cops upper arm appears to be SWIMMING in his shirt.

2. How many felony arrestees feign medical distress while the arrest is being effected?

3. How many times do officers ease in their arrest efforts due to this feigned distress, only to have the arrestee use the retraction of force to re-invigorate their resistance?

No one will be able to PROVE that the officer expected the manner in which the arrest was conducted to result in death. The autopsy report does not support the officers actions as causing the death. How does one prosecute a murder case with no expectation that the actions would cause harm and no direct link between the actions and the death?

At most, it can be alleged that the officer was negligent for not recognizing that George was in cardiac arrest and needed a rescue. When should that have become obvious? After 5.5 minutes? Is a street cop culpable for not recognizing a medical condition for 3 minutes?

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I watched the video and think it was patently obvious to anyone that George was in distress and that the situation should have unfolded differently. I'm illustrating that PROVING murder or even negligence in a courtroom will be all but impossible.

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