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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:00:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By centex_SR-15:
Ah, ok. The map shows that area as cleared and I thought I missed something.  It's just a little bit ahead of itself.
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Depends on the time the map was made and who made the maps.

Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:10:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Flogger23m:



As cool as the BREN 3 is, if you want to get your BREN 2 variant now is probably the time if you want a more similar configuration like those in Ukraine. I know the 2MS is a bit different, but still, for those clone/collector types I would get one now.

BREN 3 looks nice. I'm sure you'll start seeing them soon there.
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Originally Posted By Easterner:
The more I look at the CZ Bren 3, the more I want one. Glad CZ is setting up shop here.

Commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL4Q8LuJyKY

Models and options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDoth-q-na8

TFB TV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1h4s9Vc0rU



As cool as the BREN 3 is, if you want to get your BREN 2 variant now is probably the time if you want a more similar configuration like those in Ukraine. I know the 2MS is a bit different, but still, for those clone/collector types I would get one now.

BREN 3 looks nice. I'm sure you'll start seeing them soon there.

They list "bolt release inside trigger guard as a feature. RSOholes are going to love it.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:26:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Probably with some of the anti drone radars we and other countries have supplied.  The Ukrainians just supply the intercepton method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lUgnf6xbBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCQ_U_sP0jU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRScxnDfrk

Older Coyote drone interceptor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VJ7ZMqO3xs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1enr6hTvrk

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I’ve been thinking about the counter-surveillance drone method and it could be technically quite simple, and basically a variation of how FPV attacks are already made, using the coaching method.
A spotter with good glass is located along with an FPV team.  Good binocs should be able to see a large drone at several kilometers.
Spotter calls out the target bearing and provides landmarks on a running basis.
An angle measurement with a protractor and simple math would let the FPV fly a rough profile to the target.
Keeping both the target and the drone in the FOV should let the spotter coach the FPV all the way to the target, basically like a full-manual ATGM.  It should be possible to coach the drone to visual range.
FPV is specced with a decent camera and searches from above once in the area.  Most fixed-wing drones are painted white and would stand out from above.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:29:29 AM EST
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That was a huge explosion.
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Now there’s something you don’t see every day!
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:37:12 AM EST
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🇷🇺 Ongoing fires in Russia and their connection with the Northern Military District - analysis by Rybar

Since the beginning of the special operation on the territory of the so-called. In Ukraine throughout Russia, large fires regularly occur at industrial, military and energy facilities - in the first half of 2024 alone, about 110 such fires were recorded in different parts of the country.

As we have previously noted, such incidents are often associated with the actions of certain saboteurs carrying out tasks at the behest of the Ukrainian special services. In order not to be unfounded, the Rybar team decided to analyze major fire incidents from January to June and find out how everything really is.

🔻What happened in the first half of the year?

▪️A total of 109 fires were recorded at large industrial, energy, military and civil infrastructure facilities from January to June. Please note that these statistics did not take into account incidents at small facilities, as well as domestic fires.

▪️The largest fire area occurred in January - about 105 thousand square meters. This is not surprising, given that only one fire at the Wildberries warehouse in St. Petersburg accounts for almost 70% of the entire area of ​​fires.

▪️Most of the affected facilities are various manufacturing enterprises (from small workshops to factories), warehouses with finished products or materials, as well as energy facilities, including substations and oil depots.

▪️Most of the fires occurred in the Moscow region and Moscow, where there are quite a lot of similar objects for attack. It is noteworthy that these entities are also among the top for arson of railway infrastructure and administrative buildings, including military registration and enlistment offices.

🔻Was there the hand of saboteurs here?

According to official versions, the majority of fires occurred due to a malfunction in electrical networks or violation of fire safety measures. Although there is indisputable evidence of the involvement of the Ukrainian special services in some of them - such as, for example, at the Ostafyevo airfield, where five Russians set fire to a Ka-32 helicopter for a promise of 20 thousand dollars.

Nevertheless, organizing a fire at any facility using social networks and even phone calls is quite simple - this can be judged by examples of the same sabotage on railway tracks, which were widely discussed in 2022-2023. And such arsonists can be recruited either through blackmail or promises of a large sum of funds.

And this, coupled with the presence of the so-called. “trans-Ukrainians” and a significant mass of migrants, who can be motivated to commit crimes even by a fairly small price. This is precisely what the Ukrainian regime takes advantage of, organizing both arson and various terrorist acts.

🔻What's the result?

It is impossible to say with complete confidence that the Ukrainian special services were involved in even half of the recorded fires; nevertheless, this threat was and remains. And in this regard, it is much more important to think about measures to counter such enemy attacks, since the fires themselves cause both material and psychological damage.

But it is possible and necessary to fight this. And it’s worth starting with high fines for violating safety regulations and lack of proper security, including fire protection. It would not be amiss to recall the importance of targeted work with the “waiters” remaining in Russia, who even in the third year of a special military operation at individual enterprises feel quite at ease.


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That may be the first Russian source I’ve seen confirming that there IS an arson campaign underway and it isn’t just chance/confirmation bias.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:48:02 AM EST
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SAME damn launch point?  😡
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 9:58:43 AM EST
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https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/bundeswehr-der-truppe-gehen-die-gewehre-aus/29872992.html

Alarm again among the troops: Apparently the Bundeswehr has far too few assault rifles. It is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The Bundeswehr is running out of assault rifles. It can no longer equip even every second soldier with the standard G36 weapon from Heckler & Koch. According to information from WirtschaftsWoche, the troops only have 50,000 to 60,000 rifles left.

"Too few and too broken for almost 200,000 soldiers," say military officials. Many G36s are also prone to repairs due to heavy wear and tear, says a high-ranking officer. The Bundeswehr is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The G36 has been in use since 1996. After a dispute over accuracy in 2014, the then federal government stopped procurement. At the same time, a successor model was a long time coming - partly because of a patent dispute between the applicants for the delivery of a new rifle. Even after the decision to use the G95, also from Heckler & Koch, there were delays in the Ministry of Defense until the very end, according to industry circles.
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 10:04:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/bundeswehr-der-truppe-gehen-die-gewehre-aus/29872992.html

Alarm again among the troops: Apparently the Bundeswehr has far too few assault rifles. It is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The Bundeswehr is running out of assault rifles. It can no longer equip even every second soldier with the standard G36 weapon from Heckler & Koch. According to information from WirtschaftsWoche, the troops only have 50,000 to 60,000 rifles left.

"Too few and too broken for almost 200,000 soldiers," say military officials. Many G36s are also prone to repairs due to heavy wear and tear, says a high-ranking officer. The Bundeswehr is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The G36 has been in use since 1996. After a dispute over accuracy in 2014, the then federal government stopped procurement. At the same time, a successor model was a long time coming - partly because of a patent dispute between the applicants for the delivery of a new rifle. Even after the decision to use the G95, also from Heckler & Koch, there were delays in the Ministry of Defense until the very end, according to industry circles.


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Honestly, you might as well just send every functioning piece of equipment the Bundeswehr has to Ukraine.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 10:16:48 AM EST
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Wait, isn't everything HK makes made of Adamantine, able to withstand 1M rounds and a nuclear blast.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 11:16:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

Honestly, you might as well just send every functioning piece of equipment the Bundeswehr has to Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/bundeswehr-der-truppe-gehen-die-gewehre-aus/29872992.html

Alarm again among the troops: Apparently the Bundeswehr has far too few assault rifles. It is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The Bundeswehr is running out of assault rifles. It can no longer equip even every second soldier with the standard G36 weapon from Heckler & Koch. According to information from WirtschaftsWoche, the troops only have 50,000 to 60,000 rifles left.

"Too few and too broken for almost 200,000 soldiers," say military officials. Many G36s are also prone to repairs due to heavy wear and tear, says a high-ranking officer. The Bundeswehr is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The G36 has been in use since 1996. After a dispute over accuracy in 2014, the then federal government stopped procurement. At the same time, a successor model was a long time coming - partly because of a patent dispute between the applicants for the delivery of a new rifle. Even after the decision to use the G95, also from Heckler & Koch, there were delays in the Ministry of Defense until the very end, according to industry circles.


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Honestly, you might as well just send every functioning piece of equipment the Bundeswehr has to Ukraine.


Meanwhile in Ukraine:



Link Posted: 6/30/2024 11:29:34 AM EST
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If someone could hotlink for me I'm on my phone and have the hardest time with hotlinking.  I watch a lot of Polish news.  It's a weekly wrap up of the War in Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/8dDwB0smLx4?si=H9gYgqvamMqtzkis
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 11:33:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 3Florks:
If someone could hotlink for me I'm on my phone and have the hardest time with hotlinking.  I watch a lot of Polish news.  It's a weekly wrap up of the War in Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/8dDwB0smLx4?si=H9gYgqvamMqtzkis
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Western Weapons Deliveries Reach Frontline | Ukraine This Week
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:15:58 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:17:33 PM EST
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Guy I worked with a decade ago has a piece out so I figured I’d share it https://warontherocks.com/2024/06/iraq-and-america-at-sudanis-midpoint/
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:28:44 PM EST
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S-300 storage base, far east Russia, April 2022

Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:31:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:33:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:34:09 PM EST
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5 minutes ago, there is no panic lol.

Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:37:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I’ve been thinking about the counter-surveillance drone method and it could be technically quite simple, and basically a variation of how FPV attacks are already made, using the coaching method.
A spotter with good glass is located along with an FPV team.  Good binocs should be able to see a large drone at several kilometers.
Spotter calls out the target bearing and provides landmarks on a running basis.
An angle measurement with a protractor and simple math would let the FPV fly a rough profile to the target.
Keeping both the target and the drone in the FOV should let the spotter coach the FPV all the way to the target, basically like a full-manual ATGM.  It should be possible to coach the drone to visual range.
FPV is specced with a decent camera and searches from above once in the area.  Most fixed-wing drones are painted white and would stand out from above.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Probably with some of the anti drone radars we and other countries have supplied.  The Ukrainians just supply the intercepton method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lUgnf6xbBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCQ_U_sP0jU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRScxnDfrk

Older Coyote drone interceptor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VJ7ZMqO3xs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1enr6hTvrk


I’ve been thinking about the counter-surveillance drone method and it could be technically quite simple, and basically a variation of how FPV attacks are already made, using the coaching method.
A spotter with good glass is located along with an FPV team.  Good binocs should be able to see a large drone at several kilometers.
Spotter calls out the target bearing and provides landmarks on a running basis.
An angle measurement with a protractor and simple math would let the FPV fly a rough profile to the target.
Keeping both the target and the drone in the FOV should let the spotter coach the FPV all the way to the target, basically like a full-manual ATGM.  It should be possible to coach the drone to visual range.
FPV is specced with a decent camera and searches from above once in the area.  Most fixed-wing drones are painted white and would stand out from above.



Another method is to simply have a thermal imager, either from the ground, or a cheap drone with one flying at low altitude.  Any other drone against the backdrop of the sky will light up easily.  You just have to radio to discuss if it is a friendly or enemy system you are looking at.  Guide the interceptor from that point on as you described.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:38:10 PM EST
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PSA has gained a customer. I wonder how long it would take them to make 150k rifles.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:39:41 PM EST
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Extremely NSFW.  Instant leg removal and subsequent shock.

Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:44:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:49:11 PM EST
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I saw some reports of units of Russian women convicts that were wiped out the past few days.

Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:58:33 PM EST
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Extremely NSFW.  Instant leg removal and subsequent shock.

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Surprising lack of blood

What a suck ass way to die
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 12:59:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 1:03:01 PM EST
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orcs building all those or importing them?
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 1:20:11 PM EST
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#Russiaisaterroriststate
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 1:28:31 PM EST
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They are murderlizing them.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 2:12:14 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 2:38:46 PM EST
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47 minutes ago.













Link Posted: 6/30/2024 2:57:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By centex_SR-15:

I guess I missed what happened to the 400 encircled Russian soldiers in the chemical plant (?) area.  Did they surrender,  get overrun or were they quietly allowed to retreat?
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Originally Posted By centex_SR-15:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPTndVWUAAGBzN?format=jpg&name=900x900

I guess I missed what happened to the 400 encircled Russian soldiers in the chemical plant (?) area.  Did they surrender,  get overrun or were they quietly allowed to retreat?

It's Russians, they are the Klingons of our timeline.  They will never surrender and suffer for the empire.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 3:18:59 PM EST
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This is the biggest casualty event in the north that I can remember.

Eighteen Israeli soldiers were wounded, including one seriously, in a Hezbollah explosive-laden drone attack in the northern Golan Heights earlier today, the military announces.

Hezbollah claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it targeted an Israeli military site in response to IDF strikes against the terror group earlier in the day.

The soldiers were taken to a hospital for treatment. One was seriously hurt and the other 17 were listed in good condition.
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Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:15:26 PM EST
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I’m 100% comfortable with going on record.  In fact that’s one reason why I do it.
You are also on record.  
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I credit all of his accomplishments to the team he assembled. On his own, he a walking contradiction. He was smart enough to listen to career experts, military leaders and agency heads when making policy, which actually surprised me. His abrasive statements made in public would have been better served in private. I will plug my nose and vote for him, what other option do I have?

The USA Communist Party fully supports the Democrats, they say so in their publications and interviews. I'm not voting for that. Trump needs to have a come to Jesus moment regarding the defense of Ukraine IMO. When has any Republican candidate been lukewarm regarding Russian aggression?

Trump has been saying all of the above for years before running. In some cases (NAFTA, China etc) for DECADES!
You can condemn him for his foul mouth, gigantic ego, narcissism, infidelity and sexism but trying to steal his foreign policy is shameless.

Trump doesn’t know a damn thing about foreign policy personally.  He operates in that like he does in everything, what’s in it for me?  What makes me look good to my base?  How can I parlay my position into money for the family?  Who strokes my ego the hardest?
He’ll walk right into Putin’s arms because no one with any chops will serve in his (hypothetical) admin this time around to keep him on the rails.  Mark my words.



I love when types like you say "this will happen" and "that will happen," because it's pretty amusing when you're wrong.  

Just curious- do you have a copy of the Madame President article by TIME magazine?  

Anyway, quoted for future reference.

I’m 100% comfortable with going on record.  In fact that’s one reason why I do it.
You are also on record.  



True, and you can probably tell how many times I have declared "this will happen" or "this won't happen."  

All I'm saying is, watch out for hubris. That goes for a lot of other would-be prognosticators in this thread, as well.

Just tryin' to be fair.    
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:20:56 PM EST
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Please quote sources for this. Cause it’s not true.
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Nope.  We have more than enough telecom equipment, servers, PC's and phones to last for years.  Of course, they may need to be retasked from tracking every breath you take or following the Kardashians 24/7, but life will go on until we can source them domestically (at a higher cost).

China will be well and truly fucked.  


Please quote sources for this. Cause it’s not true.



It's not true?  Which part?  

The excessive government surveillance part, or the public's use of electronics for stupid/frivolous actions part?
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:22:03 PM EST
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Is this accurate?

Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:25:14 PM EST
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Looks like it.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:27:22 PM EST
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As much as we may like Marcon vis/vis Ukraine, we have to remember that he is a flawed politician trying to maintain a flawed EU-centric system.  This is one of the reasons that the West pushed the "moral" argument and didn't push the "cold self-interest" angle hard enough.  The truth is that, among other things, victory by the Ukes in resisting Russian expansion is fighting and winning a battle to give the Euro populist right the breathing space to unwind the unworkable parts of the EU, which may end up being "most of it".  These populists should understand that they will not be able to achieve their goals if they are spending buku euros/dollars on defense; enough that it will make debates about whether to spend 2% or a lesser number on defense look like the "good old days when candy bars were a nickel".  The Duarte regime in the Philippines tried the approach of domestic populism/nationalism and focusing on domestic enemies while appeasing a neighboring aggressive power and now the PI are trying desperately to mop up the huge mess these policies made regarding the South China Sea and securing the maritime borders of the Philippines.  The fact that support of Ukraine has become a "left/right domestic political issue" is not helpful; quite honestly, the modern western Left/Labor parties (and I am including the US Democrats and the UK "wet" Tories in this) have a pretty shitty record dating back to at least the Balkans and Somalia (and a good case can be made for North Africa, Cuba, Vietnam, and Rhodesia as well) of trying to "manage" wars through legal, diplomatic, and political means rather than actually fighting them to win, seeing them as a crisis to be managed rather than a war to be fought.  Rather than presenting Ukraine as a Crusade to be fought and a victory to be won, it was presented as a way to take Russia in for HR-style retraining while calling anyone who was not instantly on board a Neanderthal or worse.  Especially after Afghanistan, Iraq, and the Balkans, both the US and Euro publics are justifiably tired of hearing about "maintaining a rules-based world order" when the US, EU, and other western powers seem to glory in quashing their own citizens with onerous rules and regulations while never finding it in their heart to do the basic "blocking and tackling" things like enforcing immigration laws or public safety while spending within their means.  Note how the "birth dearth" (which has been going on for decades) ONLY became a crisis to the "International Bright Young Thing" set when it finally dawned on them that you can't raise taxes on children who were never born, and importing kids from dysfunctional third-world countries whose parents were often first cousins was NOT going to result in the development of fusion power.   The only redemption so far is that the Republicans seem to be coming around in the US and the Italian "Right" has really stepped up to the plate.  Hopefully, they find a skeptical "Neanderthal" who despises Putin and remembers all the Soviet/Russian backstabbing over the years and tell him "I want you to make the Russians willing to negotiate in Europe without precondition or reservation; the only thing not on the table are large #s of conventional US/NATO ground forces or the first use of "nonconventional" weapons of the sort that require promasks or damage Xray film.  Any conventional offensive weaponry not issued to units, part of an active contingency lot, or in the rebuild process, as well as anything within two years of lot expiration should be considered available for your mission.   Obey international map borders during strike planning only if convenient to the mission at hand, and any State Department concerns should be forwarded to my Chief of Staff for adjudication only if time and tactical situation permit.  Come back with your shield or on it!  Order is effective time now.  Move out and draw fire!".  I know it's improbable, but a boy can dream!
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:29:22 PM EST
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Looks like it.
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Is this accurate?



Looks like it.


I wouldn’t doubt fools here stating an attack on US military personal was “our own fault for being there/pushing them to it”.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:31:09 PM EST
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I saw some reports of units of Russian women convicts that were wiped out the past few days.

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They are sending granny to fight now, lol
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:31:20 PM EST
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True, and you can probably tell how many times I have declared "this will happen" or "this won't happen."  

All I'm saying is, watch out for hubris. That goes for a lot of other would-be prognosticators in this thread, as well.

Just tryin' to be fair.    
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By borderpatrol:


I credit all of his accomplishments to the team he assembled. On his own, he a walking contradiction. He was smart enough to listen to career experts, military leaders and agency heads when making policy, which actually surprised me. His abrasive statements made in public would have been better served in private. I will plug my nose and vote for him, what other option do I have?

The USA Communist Party fully supports the Democrats, they say so in their publications and interviews. I'm not voting for that. Trump needs to have a come to Jesus moment regarding the defense of Ukraine IMO. When has any Republican candidate been lukewarm regarding Russian aggression?

Trump has been saying all of the above for years before running. In some cases (NAFTA, China etc) for DECADES!
You can condemn him for his foul mouth, gigantic ego, narcissism, infidelity and sexism but trying to steal his foreign policy is shameless.

Trump doesn’t know a damn thing about foreign policy personally.  He operates in that like he does in everything, what’s in it for me?  What makes me look good to my base?  How can I parlay my position into money for the family?  Who strokes my ego the hardest?
He’ll walk right into Putin’s arms because no one with any chops will serve in his (hypothetical) admin this time around to keep him on the rails.  Mark my words.



I love when types like you say "this will happen" and "that will happen," because it's pretty amusing when you're wrong.  

Just curious- do you have a copy of the Madame President article by TIME magazine?  

Anyway, quoted for future reference.

I’m 100% comfortable with going on record.  In fact that’s one reason why I do it.
You are also on record.  



True, and you can probably tell how many times I have declared "this will happen" or "this won't happen."  

All I'm saying is, watch out for hubris. That goes for a lot of other would-be prognosticators in this thread, as well.

Just tryin' to be fair.    

I don’t think it’s hubris at all and it doesn’t say anything about who wins or loses an election.
But I am EAGER to go on record.
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As much as we may like Marcon vis/vis Ukraine, we have to remember that he is a flawed politician trying to maintain a flawed EU-centric system.  This is one of the reasons that the West pushed the "moral" argument and didn't push the "cold self-interest" angle hard enough.  The truth is that, among other things, victory by the Ukes in resisting Russian expansion is fighting and winning a battle to give the Euro populist right the breathing space to unwind the unworkable parts of the EU, which may end up being "most of it".  These populists should understand that they will not be able to achieve their goals if they are spending buku euros/dollars on defense; enough that it will make debates about whether to spend 2% or a lesser number on defense look like the "good old days when candy bars were a nickel".  The Duarte regime in the Philippines tried the approach of domestic populism/nationalism and focusing on domestic enemies while appeasing a neighboring aggressive power and now the PI are trying desperately to mop up the huge mess these policies made regarding the South China Sea and securing the maritime borders of the Philippines.  The fact that support of Ukraine has become a "left/right domestic political issue" is not helpful; quite honestly, the modern western Left/Labor parties (and I am including the US Democrats and the UK "wet" Tories in this) have a pretty shitty record dating back to at least the Balkans and Somalia (and a good case can be made for North Africa, Cuba, Vietnam, and Rhodesia as well) of trying to "manage" wars through legal, diplomatic, and political means rather than actually fighting them to win, seeing them as a crisis to be managed rather than a war to be fought.  Rather than presenting Ukraine as a Crusade to be fought and a victory to be won, it was presented as a way to take Russia in for HR-style retraining while calling anyone who was not instantly on board a Neanderthal or worse.  Especially after Afghanistan, Iraq, and the Balkans, both the US and Euro publics are justifiably tired of hearing about "maintaining a rules-based world order" when the US, EU, and other western powers seem to glory in quashing their own citizens with onerous rules and regulations while never finding it in their heart to do the basic "blocking and tackling" things like enforcing immigration laws or public safety while spending within their means.  Note how the "birth dearth" (which has been going on for decades) ONLY became a crisis to the "International Bright Young Thing" set when it finally dawned on them that you can't raise taxes on children who were never been born, and importing kids from dysfunctional third-world countries whose parents were often first cousins was NOT going to result in the development of fusion power.   The only redemption so far is that the Republicans seem to be coming around in the US and the Italian "Right" has really stepped up to the plate.  Hopefully, they find a skeptical "Neanderthal" who despises Putin and remembers all the Soviet/Russian backstabbing over the years and tell him "I want you to make the Russians willing to negotiate in Europe without precondition or reservation; the only thing not on the table are large #s of conventional US/NATO ground forces or the first use of "nonconventional" weapons of the sort that require promasks or damage Xray film.  Any conventional offensive weaponry not issued to units, part of an active contingency lot, or in the rebuild process, as well as anything within two years of lot expiration should be considered available for your mission.   Obey international map borders during strike planning only if convenient to the mission at hand, and any State Department concerns should be forwarded to my Chief of Staff for adjudication only if time and tactical situation permit.  Come back with your shield or on it!  Order is effective time now.  Move out and draw fire!".  I know it's improbable, but a boy can dream!
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Any chance of you running for an office?
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They are sending granny to fight now, lol
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I saw some reports of units of Russian women convicts that were wiped out the past few days.

They are sending granny to fight now, lol



The evidence is starting to build.

11 hrs ago.
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I have an open mind about Le Pen until policy statements are made.  I think the jury is out on whether she’s a reformed puffer or a committed puffer like Orban.  Implementing a rightist agenda doesn’t have to mean pro-Putin/anti-Ukraine, now is the time to prove that.
Miloni was considered a near-puffer too but has turned pretty hawkish and I think, genuinely believes in stopping Russia.
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I can imagine what the lives of the local Force Protection officers and NCOs look like right now.  Having had the same job during 9/11 in Germany (when it was an "additional duty" and was not SUPPOSED to be your main job), I have a very warm feeling when I pull out my blue "retired" ID card.  Please excuse me while I go give my hopefully-"terminal" DD Form 214 a hug!
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Extremely NSFW.  Instant leg removal and subsequent shock.

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If only there was a way such a fate could’ve been avoided.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:52:16 PM EST
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Looks like it.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Is this accurate?



Looks like it.

I'm going with Russian hybrid operations carried out by people on the GRU/FSB payroll, though I suppose ISIS-K is also a possibility.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:53:06 PM EST
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I wouldn’t doubt fools here stating an attack on US military personal was “our own fault for being there/pushing them to it”.
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Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Is this accurate?



Looks like it.


I wouldn’t doubt fools here stating an attack on US military personal was “our own fault for being there/pushing them to it”.

There were several members here who argued as much when Iran attacked US forces in Syria with loitering munitions a while back.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 4:54:51 PM EST
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Meanwhile in Ukraine:

https://i.imgur.com/BsuLIH2.jpeg

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/bundeswehr-der-truppe-gehen-die-gewehre-aus/29872992.html

Alarm again among the troops: Apparently the Bundeswehr has far too few assault rifles. It is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The Bundeswehr is running out of assault rifles. It can no longer equip even every second soldier with the standard G36 weapon from Heckler & Koch. According to information from WirtschaftsWoche, the troops only have 50,000 to 60,000 rifles left.

"Too few and too broken for almost 200,000 soldiers," say military officials. Many G36s are also prone to repairs due to heavy wear and tear, says a high-ranking officer. The Bundeswehr is "barely able to defend itself in ground combat".

The G36 has been in use since 1996. After a dispute over accuracy in 2014, the then federal government stopped procurement. At the same time, a successor model was a long time coming - partly because of a patent dispute between the applicants for the delivery of a new rifle. Even after the decision to use the G95, also from Heckler & Koch, there were delays in the Ministry of Defense until the very end, according to industry circles.


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Honestly, you might as well just send every functioning piece of equipment the Bundeswehr has to Ukraine.


Meanwhile in Ukraine:

https://i.imgur.com/BsuLIH2.jpeg


Can someone please transport this item to wherever the Yak is?
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I'm going with Russian hybrid operations carried out by people on the GRU/FSB payroll, though I suppose ISIS-K is also a possibility.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Is this accurate?



Looks like it.

I'm going with Russian hybrid operations carried out by people on the GRU/FSB payroll, though I suppose ISIS-K is also a possibility.

There’s a long list of groups now.
Anyone that Russia has influence over in the middle east. I.E:
Anyone Syria has influence over.
Anyone Iran has influence over.
HAMAS, Hezbollah, Isis, Taliban
Mercs/5th columnists of various stripes
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