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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 1:52:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Capta:

IMO there is other leverage, we’re just too reluctant to apply it.  Destroy their oil infrastructure and see how their already shit economy does without energy exports.  There are other things if that doesn’t do it.
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Like North Korea’s shitty economy, that would not prevent a Iran nuclear weapon program from moving forward

Link Posted: 9/8/2024 2:01:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:


The US clearly wants out of the Middle East. The entire point of the Abraham Accords was to get Israel and the Sunni Arab states to play nice with one another in order to combat Iran, as the desire on the part of the US to maintain a significant presence in the Middle East has plummeted. The whole "pivot to Asia" thing was originally about diverting resources from the Middle East (not Europe) to Asia. Even in light of the current situation,
the US is working towards agreements to withdraw troops from Iraq, and that also probably means a withdraw from Syria is going to happen, which the Biden Administration has floated. I also don't see a hypothetical second Trump Administration being super willing to intervene in the Middle East, beyond materially supporting Israel and maybe prodding Iran a bit, should the situation call for it.

I go back and forth between in my thinking regarding US presence in the Middle East. In the past, I've advocating for almost entirely withdrawing from the region, on the grounds that it's a chaotic, sectarian nightmare with little to no hope of stability, regardless of what the US does. There also exists the possibility that the US gets drawn into additional conflict there (more or less the discussion of you and Capta's posts) that drains US resources from our responsibilities to great power competition with China and Russia. At the moment, we've somehow managed to get drawn into another extremely controversial Middle Eastern conflict, all while significantly neglecting great power competition. On the other hand, I've almost come to view it similar to Europe in the first half of the twentieth century, in that when the US has tried to disengage, something has filled the vacuum that demands the US return. The last time we started to leave the Middle East to its own devices, Iran pressured Maliki and Assad to start oppressing the Sunni hard, and that caused AQI to storm back in the form of ISIS and accomplish the long-standing Salafi-jihadist goal of establishing a no-shit Islamic State, from which terror attacks all across the globe were launched.

I don't really see any easy answers regarding the Middle East. It kind of looks like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation to me at this point.

Apologies if this post is a little disjointed, as it's late and I've been drinking.
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I’d say despite all this talk of a withdrawal in 2025 or 2026 that it’s all premature
Baghdad claims but everyone knows they can’t manage isis so this will get strung out imo

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/baghdad-postpones-announcement-date-of-us-led-forces-exit-fr



https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2024/09/analysis-responding-forcefully-to-the-axis-of-resistance.php



Trump Says He'll Keep Base in Iraq to 'Watch Iran'




https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/middle-east/2024/09/04/bomb-blast-kills-two-army-officers-injures-four-soldiers-in-iraq-officials



https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/09/us-iraq-raids-puts-scrutiny-baghdads-ability-contain-isis




Link Posted: 9/8/2024 4:33:02 AM EST
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I’m always losing these things.

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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 4:52:16 AM EST
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In just one week of September, Russia used more than 800 guided aerial bombs, almost 300 Shahed drones, more than 60 missiles of various types against our people, – President Zelenskyy.

“Terror can be reliably stopped only in one way: by strikes on Russian military airfields, on their bases, on the logistics of Russian terror. We must achieve this,” Volodymyr Zelenskyy said.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 4:57:39 AM EST
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belgorod is a big-time military city; 3 quick vids
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 5:01:36 AM EST
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RU drones in Romania for an hour or so from what I’ve seen reported so far.
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Iranian MP talks about transfer of missiles to Russia

"We have to barter to meet our needs, including the import of soybeans and wheat. Part of the barter is sending missiles and the other part is sending military drones to Russia," said a member of the parliamentary committee on national security. A member of Iran's parliament admitted that Russia has received Iranian ballistic missiles to use in attacks on Ukraine. When asked about potential sanctions for sending missiles to Russia, he responded, "It can't get worse. We provide missiles to Hezbollah, Hamas, and Hashd al-Shaabi, so why not to Russia?"

https://didbaniran.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 5:52:08 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 6:15:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I'm always losing these things.

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and that beach is pure shrapnel

Link Posted: 9/8/2024 6:18:28 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 6:41:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Capta:

Sounds like they’ve finally got the bugs worked out of those things.  I wonder how many missiles are sitting in depots in various countries?
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Article about those hawks from Spain https://www.kyivpost.com/post/38629

Sounds like they’ve finally got the bugs worked out of those things.  I wonder how many missiles are sitting in depots in various countries?

I assumed they eventually would. Despite it's age, HAWK is a very good system with a well-trained crew.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 6:54:31 AM EST
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No consequences if Israel doesn’t survive? Just an “oh well” from the rest of the world?
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For me, the question is, what is Iran getting from Russia in exchange for this? The SU35 deal still hasn't happened, after all.


Money.

Iran bent them over the barrel on Shaheeds ($193k a piece).

That makes sense. I suppose Russia is kind of limited in terms of material support it could provide Iran at the moment. I imagine something similar is probably at play with North Korea, in terms of money and trade. Technology transfers are also probably involved.


Maybe some nuke tech too.



Possibly, but highly unlikely. The juice (missiles) isn’t worth the squeeze (all of the equations would change).

That’s what Russia wants.  Israel is the west’s pain point.  A regional war that goes hot, or even nuclear, isn’t a problem for Russia but is for the west.
Also don’t discount historical Russian anti-semitism rearing its ugly head in actual foreign policy decisions.


Ehh, you are going to have a hard time convincing me that Russia wouldn’t have a problem with Iran nuking Israel if they helped them with the process. They would want to be tied to that for some missiles? If so, they are days away from collapsing and the missiles are the only thing that is going to save them. That’s the cost/benefit level we are talking about.

Russia was already (most likely) willing to help HAMAS kill 1300 Israelis, purely to divert western bandwidth from Ukraine.
Regional war in the middle east is October 7 on steroids.  If they were desperate enough a year ago how much more desperate are they now or a year from now?
Take the worst-case scenario, Russia helps Iran build deliverable nukes and Iran uses them on Israel.  Does Israel even survive that?  Because if they don’t, there are no consequences.
If Iran gets off a nuke and then Israel launches a major nuclear retaliation against Iran, do they launch on Russia?   Because while Iran might be more or less helpless after the first blow, Russia would erase Israel.  So Israel has an incentive not to retaliate against Russia for an Iranian attack that Russia facilitated.
And if Iran doesn’t get off a nuke strike (which is the most likely) because Israel destroys their facilities, then we’re looking at a regional missile war plus Iranian proxies.    Which again is perfectly agreeable to Russia and even diverts pressure from Assad in Syria.
If there’s a downside for Russia in a regional war in the middle east, I don’t know what it is.  At least looking at it from their perspective, the upsides outweigh the downsides by a significant degree.


No consequences if Israel doesn’t survive? Just an “oh well” from the rest of the world?


I think that, for Russia, Israel is an acceptable trade for Russian goals.  It is far from the first time that an empire at war facing an existential threat was willing to burn the world down to win.  Hell, Kaiser Wilhelm and his "sealed train" facilitated the birth of the USSR and on a personal level the liquidation of a lot of is own blood relatives to preserve the German Empire.  History refers to this as the "USSR".
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 6:56:03 AM EST
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quick video clip
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Originally Posted By Capta:

Yeah I read about that but that isn’t the same as a proposal from Trump.  Nor do I think he has any incentive to actually stick with it once another advisor like Tucker Carlson gets his ear.
For example one of the so-called “Trump associate proposals” put out the figure “$500 billion in weapons” but when you read the wording, it was $500B if Russia doesn’t agree to a cease fire in place.  Which is exactly what Russia wants.  Essentially all the parts of that plan were nice-sounding nonsense that were all made meaningless by “we demand cease fire in place.”
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Russia doesn't have 4 years to end this war. Either the war will end long before then or Russia will end long before then.

Sarcasm. Responding to Capta who believes Russia is all in for Trump...Honestly, if I were serving in the Russian army, I'd vote for Trump if I could just to get it over with either through negotiated peace to a flood of US weapons to end my suffering.

Has Trump proposed increasing weapons supply?



https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34832

Two key advisers to Donald Trump have put forward a plan to end Russia’s war in Ukraine if he wins the presidential election, according to a Reuters report.

The plan involves telling Ukraine that it will only receive more US weapons if it enters peace talks with Russia. At the same time, the US would warn Moscow that refusing to negotiate would result in increased US support for Ukraine, said retired Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, one of Trump's national security advisers, in an interview.


Since Putin probably isn't going to go for the peace talks, and Ukraine already said they would I think it ends up Ukraine gets more assistance to push out Russia.

They have presented this strategy to Trump, who responded positively, according to Fleitz. “I’m not claiming he agreed with it or agreed with every word of it, but we were pleased with the feedback we received,” he said.

However, Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung said that only statements made by Trump himself or authorized members of his campaign should be considered official.

The strategy proposed by Kellogg and Fleitz is the most detailed plan suggested by associates of Trump, who has previously claimed he could quickly end the war in Ukraine if elected without providing any specifics.

Yeah I read about that but that isn’t the same as a proposal from Trump.  Nor do I think he has any incentive to actually stick with it once another advisor like Tucker Carlson gets his ear.
For example one of the so-called “Trump associate proposals” put out the figure “$500 billion in weapons” but when you read the wording, it was $500B if Russia doesn’t agree to a cease fire in place.  Which is exactly what Russia wants.  Essentially all the parts of that plan were nice-sounding nonsense that were all made meaningless by “we demand cease fire in place.”



I do agree with you on that, because that article is the only information we have at this time about any proposal that Trump might do.  So far he is very unclear of what his plan is as of yet but I keep looking to see what he thinks would work regarding Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 7:20:44 AM EST
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If I'm not mistaken, Zelensky was pretty positive after a private meeting with Trump.
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No, he hasn't proposed much of anything except the dubious "stop the war in 24 hours" nonsense. But he hasn't provided specifics to too many topics. I think he is agnostic on Ukraine and will decide the direction once (big if) he is in office, talks with advisors, NATO allies, and Zelensky. He will ask Z and Putin what it will take to end the war and negotiate a hard deal. I don't think it will work and then the big question is what will Trump do when one or both sides refuse his offer.



If I'm not mistaken, Zelensky was pretty positive after a private meeting with Trump.



He was, as well as Boris Johnson speaking with trump about continuing support of Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 7:25:37 AM EST
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I’m always losing these things.

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Egad!!!  

Link Posted: 9/8/2024 7:29:38 AM EST
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ETA — ⚡️❗️Latvia Defense Ministry
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writes:
"On Saturday, 7 September, a Russian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) crashed in Rēzekne municipality, Latvia.

Currently, the authorities, including the State Police, are investigating the circumstances of the incident, but preliminary data indicate that it is a military UAV of the Russian Federation, and, according to the information available to the National Armed Forces, it flew into our airspace from Belarus."

"In view of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Latvia is stepping up the protection of its land borders, airspace and territorial waters, and the National Armed Forces are reinforcing their air defence capabilities on the eastern border. In addition, NATO allies ensure air patrolling mission over the Baltic States on a rotational basis," the Ministry added. ETA2 — President of Latvia says
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Russia's links with Iran are growing stronger - and Ukraine and the West will have to retaliate
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 7:36:15 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 7:47:46 AM EST
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belgorod is a big-time military city; 3 quick vids
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Since yesterday morning, it has been pretty relentless.


Governor TG
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The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to strike our region. According to preliminary information, there were no casualties.

In the city of Shebekino, a truck parked on the territory of a manufacturing enterprise was damaged as a result of a drone attack.

In addition, in the Shebekinsky urban district, a fire occurred in the forest floor, and the Ministry of Emergency Situations eliminated all sources of fire.

In the Prokhorovsky district near the village of Priznaznoye, during field work, a tractor ran over ammunition. As a result of the explosion, the tires on one wheel were damaged.

In the village of Logachevka, Valuysky urban district, a private house was damaged as a result of the arrival of a shell.

In the village of Dronovka, Grayvoronsky urban district, as a result of explosive devices dropped from a UAV, the roof of one private house was broken, windows were broken, a fence was cut, outbuildings were cut, and a summer kitchen was destroyed. As a result of an attack by another kamikaze drone on the territory of a private household, outbuildings and a fence were damaged.

Information about the consequences is being clarified.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9691


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The Shebekinsky urban district again came under attack from the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

In the city of Shebekino, three civilians were wounded as a result of shelling. A woman in serious condition with shrapnel wounds to the back and thigh and a man with a shrapnel wound to the chest were taken by ambulance to the regional clinical hospital. The third victim with a shrapnel wound to the thigh was taken by self-defense fighters to the Shebekinsky Central District Hospital. After first aid was provided, he was transferred to city hospital No. 2. Belgorod for further treatment. The victims are provided with all necessary assistance.

As a result of shell hits, two private houses and four outbuildings caught fire. Emergency Situations Ministry employees together with self-defense fighters extinguished the fire.

In addition, as a result of attacks by 2 drones, the roofs and facades of two private houses were damaged.

In the village of Polyana, due to a drone attack, the roof of one of the buildings of an agricultural enterprise was broken.

Information about the consequences is being clarified. Operational services are working on the ground.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9692


(Unrelated but interesting contextual note)
Since the spring of this year, we have been working to equip border residents with additional means to fight fire. Enemy drones attack and set fire to houses, cars, administrative buildings, social facilities and churches. And the firefighting equipment that arrives at the scene of the fire immediately becomes the next target for the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ drones.

Both decisions - distributing fire extinguishers to homes, and then equipping border municipalities with mobile fire extinguishing units - were suggested by the residents of border villages and hamlets themselves. The station is easy to use. It is a trailer with a water tank and a pump, equipped with everything necessary to fight fire: fire hoses, replenishment of water, entrenching tools (shovel, crowbar), special clothing, and a first aid kit. It can be transported to the emergency site using a car or tractor. People say that if the fire is small, then it can be localized on its own. I myself have witnessed this many times.

The heads of border districts and villages confirm: when there are fire extinguishing equipment in houses, and a mobile fire station in a populated area, it is possible to really prevent a big disaster. And in difficult moments, those who are nearby - self-defense, neighbors, heads, builders - are all ready to help. Our Belgorod region now rests on such people and mutual assistance.

We will continue to work to provide residents with the means to fight fire in the border areas. To date, 61 mobile fire extinguishing installations and about 4,500 fire extinguishers have been transferred to Belgorod, Krasnoyaruzhsky, Volokonovsky and Borisovsky districts, Shebekinsky, Grayvoronsky and Valuysky urban districts.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9697


2212ET
The entire territory of the Belgorod region is a MISSILE DANGER.
Go down to the basement. Stay there until you receive the "missile alert" signal.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9698



2221ET
📍 MISSILE DANGER END.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9699


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The entire territory of the Belgorod region. The missile alert siren has been reactivated.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9700


2316
📍 MISSILE DANGER END.

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0055ET
Our air defense system worked over the Belgorod region - several air targets were shot down.

According to preliminary data, three civilians, including two children, were wounded in the village of Nikolskoye. The boy in serious condition with a traumatic brain injury and a laceration of the left leg and his brother with a closed traumatic brain injury were taken to the regional clinical hospital by the ambulance team. The third victim received medical assistance on the spot but refused hospitalization.

As a result of being hit by shells, two residential buildings were destroyed. Various damage was detected in 4 apartment buildings, 12 private households, 2 outbuildings, 2 commercial buildings: windows were broken, roofs were broken, facades and fences were cut.  A bus and three cars were hit by shrapnel.

Information about the consequences is being clarified. Operational services are working on the ground.


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Information about the strikes inflicted by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on our region over the past 24 hours:⠀

📍 In the Belgorod region, the villages of Zhuravlevka, Krasny Khutor, Nechaevka, Nikolskoye and Repnoye were subject to enemy attacks. 16 rounds of ammunition were fired during 3 attacks and attacks were carried out using 4 UAVs. In the village of Nechaevka, as a result of a drone attack, a hangar and three cars and a tractor in it were completely burned down. As a result, two residential buildings were destroyed by shells in the village of Nikolskoye. Damage was also recorded to 4 apartment buildings, 12 private houses, 2 outbuildings, 2 commercial properties, 7 cars, a KamAZ truck and a bus. Early in the morning in the village of Nikolskoye, three civilians, including two children, were wounded. A boy in serious condition with a traumatic brain injury and a laceration of the left leg and his brother with a closed traumatic brain injury were taken to the children's regional clinical hospital by the ambulance team. The third victim received medical assistance on the spot but refused hospitalization.

In the Valuysky urban district, 1 ammunition was fired at the village of Logachevka during one shelling. As a result of the arrival of the shell, a private house was damaged.

📍 In the Volokonovsky district, 2 shellings were carried out in the village of Tishanka, during which 17 ammunition were fired. No consequences.

📍 In the Grayvoronsky urban district, the village of Gorkovsky, the villages of Dronovka, Mokraya Orlovka, Novostroevka-Vtoraya and Sdaryushino were attacked by 4 UAVs, and 113 ammunition was also fired during 4 attacks. In the village of Dronovka, in one private house, the roof was broken, windows were broken, a fence was cut, outbuildings were cut, and the summer kitchen was destroyed. On the territory of the second private household, outbuildings and a fence were damaged.

📍 In the Krasnoyaruzhsky district, the villages of Krasnaya Yaruga and Prilesye, the villages of Popovka and Repyakhovka were fired with 4 ammunition during 2 shellings, and strikes were also carried out with the help of 2 UAVs, one of which was shot down. There were no casualties or damage.

📍In the Prokhorovsky district near the village of Priznaznoye, while carrying out field work, a tractor ran over ammunition. As a result of the explosion, the tires on one wheel were damaged.

📍 In the Shebekinsky urban district, 18 shells and 12 UAVs were fired in the city of Shebekino, the villages of Krasnoye, Polyana and Shamino, the village of Kozmodemyanovka, as well as the villages of Maryino and Pankov, two of which were shot down. In the city of Shebekino, four civilians were injured. Three of them were hospitalized in medical institutions in the city of Belgorod. Doctors assess the condition of the two victims as serious, and they are receiving all the necessary medical care. The fourth victim was sent home for outpatient treatment. Over the past 24 hours, 16 private households, one apartment building, 2 industrial enterprises, a commercial facility and 16 cars were damaged. In addition, employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, together with self-defense fighters, extinguished fires in 2 private houses, 4 outbuildings and litter in the forest.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9707


0321ET
The village of Nikolskoye, Belgorod district, was subjected to a repeated attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. According to preliminary information, there were no casualties.

As a result of a drone attack, a hangar on the territory of a manufacturing plant caught fire, resulting in a roof collapse across the entire area. Fire crews began extinguishing the fire.

Information about the consequences is being clarified. Emergency services are working on the spot.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9708


0349ET
The entire territory of the Belgorod region is a MISSILE DANGER.
Go down to the basement. Stay there until you receive the "missile alert" signal.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9709


0414ET
📍 MISSILE DANGER END.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9710


0418ET
The entire territory of the Belgorod region. The missile alert siren has been reactivated.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9711


0412ET
📍 MISSILE DANGER END.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9712


0509ET
Our air defense system worked over Belgorod and the Belgorod region - several air targets were shot down on approach to the city. According to preliminary information, there were no casualties.

In the city of Belgorod, a shrapnel pierced the roof of an office building. Also, the glazing of one apartment building was damaged, and 2 cars were hit by shrapnel. Services are already dealing with the consequences. No significant damage was detected.

There was also a fire in dry grass in the city - the Ministry of Emergency Situations is extinguishing the fire.

Information about the consequences is being clarified.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9713


0511ET
The entire territory of the Belgorod region is a MISSILE DANGER.
Go down to the basement. Stay there until you receive the "missile alert" signal.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9714


0519ET
📍 MISSILE DANGER END.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9715


0604ET
The entire territory of the Belgorod region is a MISSILE DANGER.
Go down to the basement. Stay there until you receive the "missile alert" signal.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9716


0621ET
📍 MISSILE DANGER END.

https://t.me/vvgladkov/9717


0809ET
Four settlements were subjected to drone attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. According to preliminary data, in all cases there were no casualties.

In the village of Dronovka, Grayvoronsky urban district, a UAV attacked a GAZelle parked in the courtyard of a private house - the vehicle's glazing, roof and body were damaged.

In the village of Novopetrovka, Valuysky urban district, a private house was damaged as a result of a kamikaze drone attack.

In the Shebekinsky urban district in the village of Murom, two drones attacked a private home: the roof was broken, windows were broken, interior decoration was damaged and the fence was cut.

In the village of Maslova Pristan, as a result of a drone attack, the glazing in the building of a manufacturing enterprise was damaged.

Information about the consequences is being clarified.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/9718
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I'm always losing these things.

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Let the Russians waste resources
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and fires explosive countermeasures to destroy them before impact.

— Russia plans to equip T-80BVM and T-90M tanks with Arena-M, but implementation has been inconsistent due to high costs and logistical challenges.
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Op-Ed from FMR UK MOD: The Sunday Times: Grant Shapps: Let Ukraine strike Russia with our Storm Shadow missiles
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But quantity is a quality all its own.


- Because we were brought 10 shells from 6 different places. The powder weight distribution is different for everyone. Each shell has its own shot calculation."
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🌐 Koursk
Ukraine
Gains (+ 61.16 km²) 🟨
Pertes (- 3.74 km²) 🟦
Zones contestées : 292,01 km²

Ukraine
Gains (+ 7.93 km²) 🟨
Pertes (- 138.34 km²) 🟦

Russie | LPR | DPR
Gains (+ 73.48 km²) 🟥
Pertes (- 3.22 km²) ⬛️



Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:07:20 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:08:10 AM EST
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From a U.S. black project from 1970 I posted a few days ago.  Drone footage of it using guided weapons to hit targets.   Man I wonder where we are today with this.

Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:13:12 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:20:42 AM EST
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South Korea, Japan ‘ready to stop North Korea hiding behind Russia’
Japanese leader Fumio Kishida held his final summit with the South Korean President on Friday before stepping down.

By Taejun Kang for RFA

2024.09.06
Taipei, Taiwan




Leaders of South Korea and Japan said they would maintain their readiness to stop North Korea hiding behind Russia in its provocative acts, Kim Tae-hyo, South Korea’s deputy national security adviser, said on Friday.

Kim was speaking after South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol and Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida met for talks in Seoul that included ways to deepen cooperation, even as Kishida prepares to step down at the end of the month.

Kishida arrived for a two-day visit and talks with Yoon, their 12th summit in about two years. It was their last summit, as Kishida will not seek reelection as prime minister and leader of Japan’s ruling Liberal Democratic Party after three years in the job.

During the summit, Kishida called for peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula through a “unification doctrine” that Yoon announced last month, which focuses on expanding North Koreans’ access to external information and proposes establishing an official dialogue channel between the two Koreas to discuss various issues.

Yoon, in his opening remarks at Friday’s summit, said it was important to maintain the positive momentum in relations with Japan.

He added that the two countries have a chance to raise their relations to another level when they mark next year’s 60th anniversary of diplomatic ties and that working with Kishida on improving relations was the most meaningful development since he became president.

Relations between the two U.S. allies have been fraught for years because of South Korea resentment of Japan’s behavior during its occupation of Korea before and during World War II.

But Yoon and Kishida have been able to build a close relationship as a result of Yoon’s decision last year to resolve a long-standing dispute regarding Japan’s wartime mobilization of Koreans for forced labor by compensating victims without contributions from Japanese firms.

The two leaders have since resumed a “shuttle diplomacy” of holding meetings on the fringes of international conferences and visiting each other as needed.

Their restored relations have also substantially enhanced trilateral security cooperation with the United States, as all three of the allies warily watch North Korea’s development of nuclear weapons and the missiles to carry them.

South Korea has been trying to bolster cooperation with regional partners in response to deepening military ties between North Korea and Russia.

On Wednesday, Yoon met New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon. They condemned North Korea’s nuclear weapons development and its military cooperation with Russia, including the North’s export of ballistic missiles to Russia in violation of U.N. Security Council resolutions.

Yoon and Luxon denounced Russia’s war against Ukraine, while pledging to support Ukrainian sovereignty and its efforts to secure a just and lasting peace, according to a joint statement.

Edited by Mike Firn.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/south-korea-japan-north-russia-09062024065301.html

Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:27:19 AM EST
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Wow.
Pro-Russian sources obviously, and the stated prognosis is questionable. But still pretty amazing.

In the Ugledar direction, our “Loaf” with three BARS-23 soldiers ran into a TM-62M anti-tank mine. The machine shattered into atoms, but protected people. The soldiers remained alive and were able to return to their people, and are now back in service.
Far East


https://t.me/divgen/54186


Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:27:50 AM EST
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Fuck that bridge several times
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:30:49 AM EST
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1 hr ago.


Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:33:18 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:34:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Capta:

No consequences *for Russia.*
They’ve already gone all in on “fuck you we’re barbarians and we’ll nuke the world if we don’t get our way!”
Everyone knows that WW3 in Europe is around the corner.
It’s objectively beneficial to them.  Why would they care about anyone’s opinion?
Even if they do, there will still be nations than don’t GAF and will buy cheap Russian oil.

Not to mention that the most likely outcome is Israel attacks Iran first and wipes out their nuclear facilities, resulting in a regional missile/proxy war, again much to Russia’s benefit with limited to no downsides as they see it.
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I do not think Russia is at this point yet: saying fuck it just to watch the world burn. But they do seem to be on the way. I think/hope something intervenes before they and subsequently the rest of the world, get to that point. I'm just not sure what that intervention looks like. Maybe Trump?
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:38:10 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:38:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By voyager3:

The more likely Israel is to be wiped off the map, the more likely they will take everyone responsible with them. They might not be able to glass the whole Russia but the flight time from Tel-Aviv to Moscow is 5h in a commercial airliner.
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All the Russian leadership class must be made to understand that wherever they go to hide that place will burn and glow white. Who would be more likely to fulfill that promise from the USA side? Trump or Kamala? Putin et al has to be made to believe!

*standing by for some Russian sources from Capta claiming Trump is weak on Israel and Iran...
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:39:55 AM EST
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~7 min news report video in the shit.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:42:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

All the Russian leadership class must be made to understand that wherever they go to hide that place will burn and glow white. Who would be more likely to fulfill that promise from the USA side? Trump or Kamala? Putin et al has to be made to believe!

*standing by for some Russian sources from Capta claiming Trump is weak on Israel and Iran...
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not sure what to make of it but there was talk recently from T$ to cut sanctions to both (fuck) iran and russia, but its campaign season so take it with a shaker of salt
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