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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:43:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:46:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Biden went from a flat first budget to ever decreasing budgets since he’s been in the White House https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6298072602001 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2784-3321840.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2780-3321841.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: If you read into the article, it's not the defense industry that can't do it, it is the Biden administration that doesn't want to pay for it. Biden went from a flat first budget to ever decreasing budgets since he’s been in the White House https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6298072602001 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2784-3321840.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2780-3321841.jpg Fucking politicians, They keep this shit up and the Pentagon will be down to a triangle. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:50:04 AM EST
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Let us not forget that Trump was elected to office by the anti-Hillary vote, not the pro-Trump vote. He had no prior history of bedrock conservative principles. Now the destiny of Ukraine may very well be determined by the likes of the two choices available to us in November? Ukraine 🇺🇦 better have honed their Plans C and D. 😢
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:55:47 AM EST
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Probably correct about troop rotations
⚠️NEW WAVE OF IMPACTS. KURSK REGION 14.09 15:35 🔵Our aviation has been operating since early morning. Ka-52M helicopters attack enemy positions using Vikhr and Izdeliye-305 guided missiles. 🔵Intelligence established the enemy’s movement towards the Sumy region. Most likely, in the near future the enemy will try to organize some kind of rotation of its troops, due to the huge number of losses and wounded. https://t.me/frontbird/13288 Russian forces using IFVs tried to take the village Liubimovka, Kursk region, in Russia and for a moment entered it from west / northwest. The usage of BMDs suggest that this were Russian VDV units of the 51st airborne regiment, so one of the “elite” Russian units. Yet, partially, they used the main road coming from Snagost, where one BMD gets torn apart by a mine (beginning of the video). It ends with heavy Russian casualties comprised of at least five BMDs being destroyed and unknown number of troops eliminated. The embattled Russian village itself takes a heavy beating. For better orientation I added a map. 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 8:59:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: Maybe we need to put naval Elon Musk in charge of streamlining ship building! Laughs in Henry Kaiser. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:02:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXZ0dRRWsAAiD7B?format=jpg&name=small I read that a South Korean ship yard said they could of built all 8 for 1.2 billion but were not considered when they put together a bid. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:03:52 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:11:18 AM EST
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  look at the track of item 0.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:15:14 AM EST
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Just reported.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:17:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Those are European partners. We shouldn’t expect them to come to the Pacific. But the Koreans, Japanese and Australians will be there with hundreds or over a thousand cells. Prioritizing land attack loadouts would be a choice and one I don’t know they’ll make. Our side has the ability to range most or all of China with land, air and sea based missiles but China has relatively few systems that can range the US and if CONUS is attacked we can draw the moderately willing parts of NATO in at that point, probably mostly to defend things between India and Australia. China has ports all over and around the US they could launch missiles from. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:22:35 AM EST
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🇺🇸 White House spox John Kirby, yesterday: "There is no change to our view on the provision of long-range strike capabilities for Ukraine to use inside of Russia" 🇷🇺 Russian Deputy FM Sergei Ryabkov, today: "Russia knows that the West has already made decisions about strikes deep into Russian territory and has transmitted corresponding signals to Kyiv." https://reuters.com/world/no-change-us-policy-long-range-missiles-ukraine-expected-friday-white-house-says-2024-09-13/ https://tass.ru/politika/21863447 |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:25:53 AM EST
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💥💥 Partisans blow up Russian guards involved in tortures in Ukraine. In Russia's Yekaterinburg, partisans in cooperation with the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine blew up Russian servicemen who were involved in the organization of torture chambers in the occupied territories of Ukraine. https://global.espreso.tv/russia-ukraine-war-guerrillas-in-yekaterinburg-blow-up-russian-guards-involved-in-organisation-of-torture-chambers-in-tot-of-ukraine-diu |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:26:56 AM EST
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1:30 video in this tweet.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:29:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: That's the most tracers I have seen in a while from assault groups If I'm not mistaken the russians have adopted a tactic of using belt fed machine guns and tracers specifically as air defense against drones. In this modern battlefield the only safe place is in a building, underground, or in thick vegetation. So there are lots of troops in the treelines to shelter from drones. The russians are concentrated in tree lines so the ukrainians are trying to burn out the vegetation so the russians can't hide in them. Everybody is evolving in the modern battlefield. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:30:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: From 2014 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
From 2014 Ahh, thanks for that. 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:32:29 AM EST
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1/ The Russian army will be forced to transfer troops from other directions to Kurshchyna to confront the ZSU - @TheStudyofWar analysts The Russians continue their attempts to counterattack Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region. However, in order to stop the Ukrainians, the Russian command will have to transfer additional forces to the region from other directions where the fighting is currently taking place. This is stated in a new material of the American Institute for the Study of War (ISW). Analysts also noted that Ukraine's Kursk operation foiled Russia's intentions to attack our country from the north, particularly in the Sumy region. 
"Pentagon spokesman General Patrick Ryder confirmed that the United States had observed an attempt by the Russians to conduct "a certain counteroffensive operation", but so far it is of a "marginal" or "insignificant" nature. 
3/ ISW analysts also noted that they are monitoring Russian counterattacks in Kurshchyna, but there are currently no reports of large-scale actions that would indicate the beginning of a coordinated counteroffensive operation with the aim of completely ousting Ukrainian forces from this region. According to the data announced by @ZelenskyyUa, the Russians have concentrated about 40,000 military personnel in Kurshchyna. However, he did not specify whether this figure includes only military personnel of the Russian army, or whether it also includes conscripts, border guards, Rosguards and employees of the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. Ukrainian military commentator Kostyantyn Mashovets, meanwhile, cites a slightly smaller figure: 33-35 thousand Russian servicemen. At the same time, according to Zelenskyi's statement, the Russian command plans to concentrate about 60,000-70,000 military personnel in Kurshchyna (despite the fact that, according to American officials, at least 50,000 soldiers are needed to oust Ukrainians from Kurshchyna) https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834847008328126773 4/ However, ISW adds, there are questions about the quality of these forces. "Russian authorities have largely relied on poorly trained and equipped conscripts and small elements of Russian regular and irregular forces to counter the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast, and it is unlikely that the majority of the current Russian force grouping in Kursk Oblast consists of combat-experienced units." - analysts noted. To recapture the part of the Kursk Oblast captured by Ukraine, the ISW continues, Russia will probably need more manpower and equipment, which it has concentrated in the region. And the fewer there are among the Russian contingent who have combat experience, the more troops will need to be transferred to #Kurshchyna. However, the transfer of units of the Russian Airborne Forces from the front line in Ukraine to the Kursk region may indicate that the Russian command is planning to transfer its "elite" and more combat-capable units to regain control over the region. The Russian military will undoubtedly have to redeploy units already involved in current offensive operations or operational reserves from Ukraine to Kursk Oblast to deploy the combat-ready units needed for a major counteroffensive operation and then later to guard the international border against a future Ukrainian invasion." , - added in ISW. At the same time, analysts cited Zelensky's statement that the Ukrainian operation in the #Kursk region thwarted the Russian Federation's intentions to launch an invasion in the northeast of Ukraine, in particular, in the Sumy region. According to the president, Russia planned to create several buffer zones along the border "from east to north" and intended to launch major offensive operations with the aim of seizing Ukrainian regional centers (apparently, we are talking about Kharkiv and Sumy). https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834847636567834837 5/ Taking into account the fact that Sumy is 25 km from the Russian-Ukrainian border, and Kharkiv is 30 km away, analysts note, it is about the intentions of the Russians to advance into the territory of Ukraine at least 25 km deep into Sumy and Kharkiv regions and start activation on a much wider front between the two regional centers Oleksandr @CinC_AFU, the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, also spoke about the reduction of the threat of an invasion of the Russian Federation from the north after the start of the offensive in Kurshchyna. The ISW added that the Russian offensive in the north of Kharkiv region was initially interpreted as an attempt by the Russians to stretch Ukrainian forces along the northern border, which would make it easier for the Russian Federation to advance in other directions. In particular in Donetsk region. - However, after the Ukrainian soldiers managed to stop the advance of the Russians in the Kharkiv direction in the summer of 2024 and began to carry out counterattacks, pushing the Russians back, the Russian command could well harbor intentions to open a new front elsewhere. The Russian military command may have intended to conduct additional offensive operations along a wider and more continuous front in northeastern Ukraine in order to significantly stretch Ukrainian forces along the international border after Ukraine's stabilization of the front line north and northeast of the city of Kharkiv," the report said. . At the same time, according to Zelenskyi, the Ukrainian operation in Kurshchyna has already begun to influence the Russian offensive in the Donetsk region. He assures that it "slowed down" the advance of the Russians in this region and reduced the advantage of the Russian army in artillery: "If earlier Russia fired 12 shells for one shell fired by Ukrainian soldiers, now the gap has decreased to 2.5 to 1 in favor of the Russian Federation." "ISW is unable to verify Zelenskyi's statement, although the pace of Russian advance in the Pokrovsk region has noticeably slowed since early September 2024... ISW has recently observed signs that Russian authorities have moved limited units of presumably Russian reserve units from Donetsk region, particularly from the Pokrovsk direction, to the Kursk region to counter the Ukrainian invasion. Such limited redeployments are unlikely to have an immediate impact on the pace of Russian offensive operations, although it may be difficult for Russian forces to maintain the current offensive pace in the future if the Russian authorities conduct additional redeployments from reserve forces in Donetsk region." analysts summarized. We will remind, earlier in ISW stated that the Russian troops will face great challenges during the counteroffensive in Kurshchyna . Confrontation with Ukrainian soldiers in this Russian region will definitely not be an "easy walk" for Putin's army. https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834848912487690453 6/ Analysts are also closely monitoring the situation in Donetsk region: on September 12, they stated that the occupiers have advanced to the southeast of Pokrovsk, and the fighting is ongoing. https://war.obozrevatel.com/ukr/okupanti-prosunulisya-na-pivdennij-shid-vid-pokrovska-boi-trivayut-isw.htm Next the ISW analyst https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834849324825505954 7/ Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 13, 2024 Sep 13, 2024 - ISW Press September 13, 2024, 8:30pm ET https://understandingwar.org/users/isw-press Download the PDF https://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/2024-09-13-PDF-Russian%20Offensive%20Campaign%20Assessment.pdf Click here https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375 to see ISW’s interactive map of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This map is updated daily alongside the static maps present in this report. Click here https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/83a2f24901c941d581c0c523ecd2619b to see ISW's interactive map of Ukraine's offensive in Kursk Oblast. Click here https://understandingwar.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/3dviewer/index.html?appid=1602762dbcde419bb957dea358449580 to see ISW’s 3D control of terrain topographic map of Ukraine. Use of a computer (not a mobile device) is strongly recommended for using this data-heavy tool. Click here https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/733fe90805894bfc8562d90b106aa895 to access ISW’s archive of interactive time-lapse maps of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. These maps complement the static control-of-terrain map that ISW produces daily by showing a dynamic frontline. ISW will update this time-lapse map archive monthly. https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834850045553696871 8/ The Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast has reportedly spoiled planned Russian offensive operations along the international border area that likely aimed to expand the area of active combat operations across a broader front in northeastern Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr @ZelenskyyUa stated on September 13 that the Ukrainian operation in Kursk Oblast stopped Russian plans to create several buffer zones along the Ukrainian border "from the east to the north," including in Sumy Oblast.[1] Zelensky stated that Russian forces wanted to launch major offensives to seize regional centers, likely referring to the regional capitals of Sumy and Kharkiv cities. Sumy and Kharkiv cities are roughly 25 and 30 kilometers from the international border, respectively – significantly further than the approximately six to 10 kilometers that Russian forces currently occupy near Lyptsi (north of Kharkiv City) and Vovchansk (northeast of Kharkiv City). Zelensky's statement suggests that Russian forces planned to start new offensive operations aimed at penetrating at least 25 kilometers deep into Sumy and Kharkiv oblasts and activating along a much wider front between at least Sumy and Kharkiv cities. Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Oleksandr @CinC_AFU similarly stated on September 5 that the Ukrainian incursion spoiled a planned Russian attack into Sumy Oblast and "reduced the threat" of Russian incursions into northern Ukraine.[2] - ISW previously assessed that the Russian offensive operation in northern Kharkiv Oblast aimed to fix Ukrainian manpower and materiel along the northern border, granting Russian forces opportunities to re-intensify offensive operations in other higher-priority areas of the theater.[3] Ukrainian forces have largely stabilized the frontline in the Kharkiv direction since Summer 2024 and continue to contest the tactical initiative through counterattacks that have regained limited positions in northern Kharkiv Oblast.[4] - The Russian military command may have intended for additional offensive operations along a wider and more continuous front in northeastern Ukraine to significantly stretch Ukrainian forces along the international border following the Ukrainian stabilization of the frontline north and northeast of Kharkiv City. https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834850595573752186 9/ Zelensky noted that the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast has also impacted Russian offensive operations in Donetsk Oblast. Zelensky stated that the Ukrainian incursion "slowed" Russian advances throughout Donetsk Oblast and reduced the advantage in artillery ammunition that Russian forces in the Pokrovsk direction had over Ukrainian forces from 12-to-1 to 2.5-to-1.[5] ISW is unable to verify Zelensky’s statement, though the rate of Russian advance in the Pokrovsk area has notably slowed since the start of September 2024. Ukraine's Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) Head Lieutenant General Kyrylo Budanov stated during an interview published on September 7 that Ukraine’s incursion into Kursk Oblast complicated Russia's plans for offensive operations, including in Russia's "main direction" (likely referring to the Pokrovsk direction), in August 2024 and later this fall.[6] ISW has recently observed indications that Russian authorities have transferred limited elements of likely Russian reserve units from Donetsk Oblast, including from the Pokrovsk direction, to Kursk Oblast to counter the Ukrainian incursion.[7] Such limited redeployments are unlikely to have an immediate impact on the tempo of Russian offensive operations, although Russian forces may struggle to maintain their current offensive tempo into the future if Russian authorities conduct additional redeployments from reserve forces in Donetsk Oblast. Russian forces continue to counterattack throughout the Ukrainian salient in #Kursk Oblast, but the Russian military will likely have to redeploy additional elements from elsewhere in the theater to Kursk Oblast to establish a force grouping capable of pursuing a sustained counteroffensive operation. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated on September 13 that Russian forces have begun counteroffensive operations in Kursk Oblast, and Pentagon Spokesperson Major General Patrick Ryder stated on September 12 that the US has observed Russian units beginning to try to conduct "some type of counteroffensive" operation that Ryder described as "marginal."  ISW continues to track observable Russian counterattacks in Kursk Oblast but has not yet observed large-scale combat operations indicating that Russian forces have started a large-scale concerted counteroffensive operation aimed at completely expelling Ukrainian forces from Kursk Oblast. https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834851144234828180 10/ Zelensky stated that Russian forces have concentrated 40,000 personnel in Kursk Oblast but did not specify the composition of the Russian grouping, and it remains unclear whether Zelensky’s count is representative exclusively of combat-effective Russian soldiers or a joint force that includes contract soldiers, plus less effective conscripts, irregular forces, border guards, Rosgvardia elements, and Russian Interior Ministry forces.[9] Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets stated on September 13 that there are roughly 33,000 to 35,000 Russian personnel in Kursk Oblast.[10] Zelensky stated that the Russian military command intends to concentrate 60,000 to 70,000 personnel in Kursk Oblast, a number notably higher than the 50,000 personnel that US officials reportedly assessed that Russia would need to push Ukrainians out of Kursk Oblast.[11] Russian authorities have largely relied on poorly-trained and equipped conscripts and small elements of Russian regular and irregular forces to address the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast thus far, and it is unlikely that most of the current Russian force grouping in Kursk Oblast is comprised of combat experienced units.[12] A Russian counteroffensive operation to retake territory seized by Ukrainian forces in Kursk Oblast will very likely require even more manpower and materiel than Russia has already concentrated in the area — especially if most of the already committed units lack combat experience. Russian Airborne (VDV) forces that recently redeployed to Kursk Oblast from the frontline in Ukraine currently appear to be heavily responsible for counterattacks in Kursk Oblast, suggesting that the Russian military command may intend to field units perceived to be more "elite" or combat effective to regain territory.[13] The Russian military will most certainly have to redeploy units already committed to ongoing offensive operations or operational reserves from Ukraine to Kursk Oblast in order to field the combat-effective units needed for a large counteroffensive operation and then subsequently guard the international border against future Ukrainian incursion. https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834851776106766598 11/ Russian forces appear to be testing more effective mechanized assault tactics west of Donetsk City, although Russian armored vehicles remain vulnerable to Ukrainian strike and drone capabilities. Geolocated footage published on September 12 shows Russian forces conducting a reinforced battalion-sized mechanized assault and advancing across the fields southwest of #Krasnohorivka and into eastern #Hostre (west of Donetsk City).[14] Russian milbloggers also claimed that Russian forces advanced during the mechanized assault and one Kremlin-affiliated Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces control one-third of Hostre.[15] The Ukrainian brigade that repelled the attack reported that Russian forces launched four waves of assaults over six hours on the morning of September 12 and that Russian forces used 46 pieces of mechanized equipment, including armored vehicles, tanks, and motorcycles during the assaults.[16] The brigade reported that Ukrainian forces destroyed 15 armored vehicles, tanks, and motorcycles and damaged 11 additional armored vehicles while repelling the assault. Although Ukrainian forces reportedly destroyed over half of the armored vehicles that Russian forces used during the mechanized assault near Hostre, Russian forces managed to advance between six and eight kilometers southwest of Krasnohorivka during the battle. Russian forces have historically struggled with rapid mechanized maneuver through open fields due to a lack of cover and concealment from Ukrainian drones and fires, but Russian forces may have assessed that the recent intensification of Russian offensive operations southwest of Pokrovsk and west and southwest of Donetsk City had sufficiently strained Ukraine's defensive capabilities in this area to enable Russian forces to make tactically significant advances.[17] https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834852347014513108 12/ The commander of another Ukrainian brigade operating in the #Donetsk direction reported on September 13 that Russian forces are using a new tactic during mechanized assaults in this direction.[18] - The commander reported that Russian forces are using a task-organized, small mechanized unit that features a heavily armored "turtle" tank (a tank with extra armored platting) equipped with mine-clearing equipment as the lead vehicle followed by several armored personnel carriers. The armored personnel carriers then carry Russian infantry close to Ukrainian positions before the infantry dismount to begin the assault and the personnel carriers presumably return to the point of departure. The commander reported that Russian forces are still suffering significant armored vehicle losses and estimated that Russian forces are losing up to 90 percent of the vehicles used in mechanized assaults in the Donetsk direction. Russian forces conducted a series of costly mechanized assaults in western Donetsk Oblast in late July 2024 but made very marginal territorial advances in exchange for their comparative heavy armored vehicle losses.[19] Russian forces most recently conducted a tactically significant mechanized assault up to the eastern outskirts of Chasiv Yar in April 2024, and Russian forces may attempt to model future mechanized assaults after these more tactically successful outcomes.[20] Ukraine and Russia conducted their second prisoner of war (POW) exchange since the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast on September 13. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky announced that Ukraine and Russia each returned 49 prisoners and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) mediated the swap.[21] @ZelenskyyUa stated that Ukraine returned servicemembers who defended the Azovstal Steel Plant in Mariupol, servicemembers of the Ukrainian National Police and State Border Service, and civilians. Russian officials have not yet confirmed the details of their returned prisoners, but Russian sources claimed that Russia returned individuals whom Ukrainian forces captured in the Kursk direction, including conscripts.[22] Ukrainian officials have previously suggested that the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast has forced Russia to more readily consider POW exchanges.[23] Russian opposition outlet Vazhnye Istorii reported that Russian citizens wrote a record number of 1,927 requests to Russian President Vladimir Putin to search for Russian servicemembers missing or captured in August 2024 following the beginning of the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast.[24] https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834853092870762928 13/ Russia continues efforts to strengthen strategic military ties with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), North Korea, and Iran to support its war effort in Ukraine. Russian Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Fomin traveled to Beijing on September 13 to partake in the Xiangshan Forum where he highlighted the deepening strategic partnership between Russia and the PRC.[25] Fomin emphasized Russian-PRC plans for over 100 joint military cooperation events in 2024, blamed #NATO and the #US for intensifying the war in #Ukraine️, and criticized the US for pursuing an alleged dual containment policy of Russia and the PRC.[26] @Reuters, citing two undisclosed European intelligence sources and obtained documents, reported on September 13 that Russia has been producing the long-range “Garpiya-A1” attack drone using #Chinese engines and other dual-use parts since 2023 and that Russian forces have used the drone to strike military and civilian targets in Ukraine.[27] The Garpiya-A1 drone has a range of 1,500 kilometers, similar to the Iranian Shahed-136 drones. Reuters reported that Russian weapons manufacturer IEMZ Kupol reportedly produced over 2,500 Garpiya-A1 drones between July 2023 to July 2024. TASS also reported on September 13 that Russian Security Council head Sergei @SergeyShoigu traveled to Pyongyang, North Korea and met North Korean President Kim Jong Un for unspecified bilateral discussions.[28] This follows Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to North Korea in June 2024, where he signed a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership agreement with Kim and continued shipments of North Korean artillery shells and ballistic missiles to Russia.[29] Shoigu’s visit also follows Iran’s recent delivery of over 200 Fateh-360 short-range ballistic missiles to Russia and Putin's meeting with Iranian Secretary of the National Security Council, Ali Akbar Ahmadian on September 12.[30] https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834853789532127678 14/ Russia’s deepening engagement with the PRC, North Korea, and Iran is part of a wider Kremlin effort to establish a coalition of friendly states aimed directly at enhancing the Russian defense industrial base (DIB) and securing strategic economic cooperation to support its war in Ukraine.[31] Key Takeaways: The Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast has reportedly spoiled planned Russian offensive operations along the international border area that likely aimed to expand the area of active combat operations across a broader front in northeastern Ukraine. Russian forces continue to counterattack throughout the Ukrainian salient in Kursk Oblast, but the Russian military will likely have to redeploy additional elements from elsewhere in the theater to Kursk Oblast to establish a force grouping capable of pursuing a sustained counteroffensive operation. Russian forces appear to be testing more effective mechanized assault tactics west of Donetsk City, although Russian armored vehicles remain vulnerable to Ukrainian strike and drone capabilities. Ukraine and Russia conducted their second prisoner of war (POW) exchange since the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast on September 13. Russia continues efforts to strengthen strategic military ties with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), North Korea, and Iran to support its war effort in Ukraine. Russian and Ukrainian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast amid continued Russian and Ukrainian assaults in the area on September 13. Russian forces recently marginally advanced near Kupyansk, Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, and Pokrovsk. Russian authorities continue attempts to coerce minorities and Ukrainian youth living in occupied Ukraine to sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense (MoD) to avoid conducting a wider mobilization. https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834854280479584609 15/ Ukrainian Operations in the Russian Federation Russian and Ukrainian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast amid continued Russian and Ukrainian assaults in the area on September 13. Geolocated footage published on September 12 indicates that Ukrainian forces recently advanced in northeastern Cherkasskoye Porechnoye (north of Sudzha).[32] Geolocated footage published on September 13 shows Russian forces operating in central Snagost (south of Korenevo), indicating that Russian forces recently seized the entirety of the settlement.[33] Russian sources claimed that Russian forces seized Pokrovsky and Obukhovka (both southeast of Korenevo and Snagost), though ISW has not observed visual evidence supporting these claims.[34] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces advanced in southern Russkaya Konopelka (east of Sudzha) and west of Lyubimovka (southeast of Korenevo) and that Ukrainian forces advanced northeast of Pogrebki (north of Sudzha) and east of Korenevo.[35] Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations southeast of Korenevo near Obukhovka; east of Korenevo near Olgovka; north of Sudzha near Kamyshevka; and southeast of Sudzha near Borki and Fanaseevka.[36] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces conducted counterattacks along the Lyubimovka-Tolstoy Lug-Darino line (southeast of Korenevo and as close as three kilometers north of the Sumy Oblast border) and cleared Krasnooktyabrskoye (southwest of Korenevo).[37] @CNN reported on September 14 that Ukrainian forces operating in Kursk Oblast stated that Russian forces deployed reinforcements from the "Wagner Group" that were likely in West Africa to Kursk Oblast and that these "Wagner" forces are better equipped and trained than regular Russian forces in the area.[38] The Ukrainian soldiers may be referring to Africa Corps personnel or the Russian "Bear (Medvedi) Brigade" private military company that reportedly returned from West Africa due to the incursion into Kursk Oblast.[39] Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets stated that the Russian military command has committed two battalions from the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade (Pacific Fleet, Eastern Military District [EMD]) and elements of the 106th Airborne (VDV) Division's 51st VDV Regiment and 173rd Reconnaissance Battalion to the Kursk direction.[40] Elements of the Russian 56th VDV Regiment (7th VDV Division) are reportedly operating in Vishnevka and Komarovka (both southwest of Korenevo); elements of the 51st VDV Regiment are reportedly operating in Snagost, Krasnooktyabrskoye, and Apanasovka (south of Korenevo); elements of the Chechen Akhmat Spetsnaz "Aida" Detachment are reportedly operating in the Sudzha direction; elements of the 204th Akhmat Regiment are reportedly operating in Cherkasskoye Porechnoye; and elements of the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade (Black Sea Fleet, Southern Military District [SMD]) are reportedly operating in the Kursk direction.[41] https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834855008640123196 16/ Ukrainian forces recently advanced in Glushkovsky Raion (west of Korenevsky Raion) amid continued Ukrainian assaults in the area on September 13. Geolocated footage published on September 13 indicates that Ukrainian forces recently advanced south of Veseloye (southwest of Gluskhovo and three kilometers from the international border).[42] Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces attacked southwest of Glushkovo near Novy Put and Veseloye and Medvezhye (east of Veseloye).[43] A Russian milblogger denied claims that Ukrainian forces entered Veseloye.[44] 
17/ Russian Subordinate Main Effort #2 – Luhansk Oblast (Russian objective: Capture the remainder of Luhansk Oblast and push westward into eastern Kharkiv Oblast and northern Donetsk Oblast) Russian forces recently advanced east of Kupyansk amid continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line on September 13. Geolocated footage published on September 12 indicates that Russian forces recently advanced into northern Petropavlivka (east of Kupyansk). [ 50 ] A Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces advanced up to a kilometer in depth along the ravine southwest of Pishchane (northwest of Svatove) and up to 750 meters wide in Makiivka (northwest of Kreminna), although ISW has not observed confirmation of these claims.[51] Russian forces continued offensive operations northeast of Kupyansk near Synkivka; east of Kupyansk near Petropavlivka; northeast of Svatove near Hlushkivka, Kolisnykivka, and Stelmakhivka and in the direction of Lozova; west of Svatove near Kopanky; southwest of Svatove near Druzhelyubivka; northwest of Kreminna near Hrekivka, Makiivka, and Nevske; west of Kreminna near Yampolivka and Torske; and south of Kreminna near Serebryanka on September 12 and 13.[52] https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1834856433256423842 18/18 A Ukrainian soldier operating in the Lyman direction stated on September 12 that Russian forces are intensifying TOS-1A thermobaric artillery strikes in the area.[53] Elements of the Russian 7th Motorized Rifle Brigade (2nd Luhansk People's Republic [LNR] Army Corps [AC] [reportedly reorganized into the 3rd Combined Arms Army]) are reportedly operating near Serebryanka.[54] Read more at: https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-13-2024
CV-90 with Kursk tactical markings. Things are getting more and more interesting. 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:37:45 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:38:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: I read that a South Korean ship yard said they could of built all 8 for 1.2 billion but were not considered when they put together a bid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXZ0dRRWsAAiD7B?format=jpg&name=small I read that a South Korean ship yard said they could of built all 8 for 1.2 billion but were not considered when they put together a bid. I'm sure if you look into more details on the bid that the devil is in it. On the surface, it is probably because the U.S. wanted to have U.S. ship making facilities making the ships instead of a foreign country. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:45:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:46:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Personal attacks and terrible use of the English language aside, it very much so is. Genocide has an actual legal definition, and it doesn't mean "killing every single member of the group." The Genocide Convention of 1948 defines genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." The five acts include killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. In terms of intent, there is an overwhelming abundance of it on the part of Russian leadership. Putin has been very open in his beliefs that there is no Ukrainian people. In his view and that of Russian imperial nationalists as a whole, the linguistic divergence of what would become Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians was imposed by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth as an attack on Russian national cohesion. Then the Austro-Hungarians were involved in promoting the allegedly fictional idea of a Ukrainian nation prior to WW1. Then Lenin and the early Bolsheviks supposedly erred by giving the Ukrainians a Republic within the USSR, including contemporary Southeastern Ukraine in it, and promoting Ukrainian language and culture via the policies of Korenizatsiia. Then the Nazis supposedly got involved and promoted Ukrainian nationalism-separatism. Then it was the CIA, MI6, the Zionists, the EU, etc. Ukrainians, in the mind of Putin, are the consequence of conspiracies at the hands of the Poles, Austro-Hungarians, Lenin, Nazis, Western intelligence agencies, etc. Hence, contemporary Russian imperialism is necessary to correct this historical slight against Russian civilization, which in the minds of Russian nationalists began in the medieval commonwealth of Kyivan Rus and stretches for 1,000 years into the present day. Beyond Putin, Medvedev has referred to Ukrainians as a race of "bastards and freaks," and he has of course denied that there is a separate Ukrainian language. Surkov, Putin's main adviser on Ukraine policy for a number of years, said that there is no Ukraine and there are no Ukrainians, and that the belief that one is a Ukrainian is a sickness of the mind. Gubarev, the first "prime minister" of the "DPR," said that if needed, they will kill millions of Ukrainians. Russian State TV regularly refers to Ukrainians as Nazis, fascists, satanists, traitors, homosexuals, etc. We're kind of in a unique position in which where this is no shortage of evidence of genocidal intent on the part of the Russian state. It is here that I must emphasis that there is no requirement for there to be an overall plan for something to constitute genocide. An overall plan can be helpful in terms of establishing intent, but it's not a necessary feature by itself. There is no evidence of an overarching order being given by Hitler to exterminate Jews, and one likely doesn't exist. With intent out of the way, let's get into actions. Russia has forcibly transferred at bare minimum tens of thousands of Ukrainian children from Ukraine to Russia, where they have been subject to brainwashing, put up for adoption by Russian families, and had significant obstacles placed between them and reunification with their families. This is obviously a case of genocidal action. In terms of preventing births, millions of Ukrainians were forced through filtration camps in occupied territory, and there is evidence to suggest that the Russians deliberately screened for fertile women of breeding age and deliberately deported them to Russia. Russian soldiers who have participated in sexual violence against Ukrainian women have openly stated that their goal in doing so was to prevent them from making more Ukrainians. In terms of imposing living conditions aimed at destroying the group, Russian propagandists brag about the harm they are causing to Ukrainian civilians by strikes on infrastructure, we know that Ukrainians are denied medical care and medicine in occupied territory if they refuse to accept Russian passports, we know that Ukrainians have been held in terrible conditions in "filtration camps" for extended periods of time, etc. Regarding causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, Russian forces use torture as a matter of policy everywhere they occupy, and just speaking Ukrainian or displaying the Ukrainian flag is enough to wind up in a torture chamber. Finally, in terms of killing members of the group, tens of thousands of civilians were murdered in Mariupol, Russia targets civilians on a daily basis with drones and other munitions, and Ukrainians deemed to be too patriotic were murdered when sent through "filtration camps." I must highlight here that in order for something to rise to the level of genocide, only one of these actions has to be taken. Yet, it's arguable that Russia has committed all five. Small sidetrack. As a result of the german holocause many, many modern people believe the word "genocide" refers to the attempt to murder all members of a particular group. I understand that is not the actual meaning of the word but I think most people don't know that. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:47:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I'm sure if you look into more details on the bid that the devil is in it. On the surface, it is probably because the U.S. wanted to have U.S. ship making facilities making the ships instead of a foreign country. The devil in the details is the US didn’t allow Japan South Korea or Australia bid on them. Maybe a little bit of competition could help fix our shipyard industry. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:48:31 AM EST
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10 mins ago. Shit is on fire in the Russian rear. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:49:47 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:51:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: I've heard many Russians (to include Putin himself) portray this as a civil war between two "Russian" peoples, one of whom has supposedly been brainwashed by the west into thinking that it's a separate people. That's where people come up with this stupid shit, knowingly or unknowingly. And that is the exact intent of putin sayng it. If western people believe this is not one country invading another country but rather a russia problem, then they don't care. Again, that is the exact goal of putin saying it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:55:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 10 mins ago. Shit is on fire in the Russian rear. Looks like south of Luhansk there are a couple good candidates for that. https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#m:advanced;d:2024-09-14;@39.55,48.38,11.07z |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 9:56:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Reported 3 hrs ago. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXbT7a9XAAAYOkS?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXbUDNpWEAAjZOM?format=jpg&name=medium 🚨 The Russians have just confirmed: they have a problem in Kursk Their counterattack got stuck, but Ukrainian s are advancing in their rear, basically threatening to pocket them. Ukraine is dividing the large pocket formed against the Seym River in two parts. It will be easier to capture the 1000 russian conscripts. It seems to me that somebody in Ukraine is now making really good tactical decisions. Somebody knows what they are doing. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:01:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Personal attacks and terrible use of the English language aside, it very much so is. Genocide has an actual legal definition, and it doesn't mean "killing every single member of the group." The Genocide Convention of 1948 defines genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." The five acts include killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. In terms of intent, there is an overwhelming abundance of it on the part of Russian leadership. Putin has been very open in his beliefs that there is no Ukrainian people. In his view and that of Russian imperial nationalists as a whole, the linguistic divergence of what would become Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians was imposed by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth as an attack on Russian national cohesion. Then the Austro-Hungarians were involved in promoting the allegedly fictional idea of a Ukrainian nation prior to WW1. Then Lenin and the early Bolsheviks supposedly erred by giving the Ukrainians a Republic within the USSR, including contemporary Southeastern Ukraine in it, and promoting Ukrainian language and culture via the policies of Korenizatsiia. Then the Nazis supposedly got involved and promoted Ukrainian nationalism-separatism. Then it was the CIA, MI6, the Zionists, the EU, etc. Ukrainians, in the mind of Putin, are the consequence of conspiracies at the hands of the Poles, Austro-Hungarians, Lenin, Nazis, Western intelligence agencies, etc. Hence, contemporary Russian imperialism is necessary to correct this historical slight against Russian civilization, which in the minds of Russian nationalists began in the medieval commonwealth of Kyivan Rus and stretches for 1,000 years into the present day. Beyond Putin, Medvedev has referred to Ukrainians as a race of "bastards and freaks," and he has of course denied that there is a separate Ukrainian language. Surkov, Putin's main adviser on Ukraine policy for a number of years, said that there is no Ukraine and there are no Ukrainians, and that the belief that one is a Ukrainian is a sickness of the mind. Gubarev, the first "prime minister" of the "DPR," said that if needed, they will kill millions of Ukrainians. Russian State TV regularly refers to Ukrainians as Nazis, fascists, satanists, traitors, homosexuals, etc. We're kind of in a unique position in which where this is no shortage of evidence of genocidal intent on the part of the Russian state. It is here that I must emphasis that there is no requirement for there to be an overall plan for something to constitute genocide. An overall plan can be helpful in terms of establishing intent, but it's not a necessary feature by itself. There is no evidence of an overarching order being given by Hitler to exterminate Jews, and one likely doesn't exist. With intent out of the way, let's get into actions. Russia has forcibly transferred at bare minimum tens of thousands of Ukrainian children from Ukraine to Russia, where they have been subject to brainwashing, put up for adoption by Russian families, and had significant obstacles placed between them and reunification with their families. This is obviously a case of genocidal action. In terms of preventing births, millions of Ukrainians were forced through filtration camps in occupied territory, and there is evidence to suggest that the Russians deliberately screened for fertile women of breeding age and deliberately deported them to Russia. Russian soldiers who have participated in sexual violence against Ukrainian women have openly stated that their goal in doing so was to prevent them from making more Ukrainians. In terms of imposing living conditions aimed at destroying the group, Russian propagandists brag about the harm they are causing to Ukrainian civilians by strikes on infrastructure, we know that Ukrainians are denied medical care and medicine in occupied territory if they refuse to accept Russian passports, we know that Ukrainians have been held in terrible conditions in "filtration camps" for extended periods of time, etc. Regarding causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, Russian forces use torture as a matter of policy everywhere they occupy, and just speaking Ukrainian or displaying the Ukrainian flag is enough to wind up in a torture chamber. Finally, in terms of killing members of the group, tens of thousands of civilians were murdered in Mariupol, Russia targets civilians on a daily basis with drones and other munitions, and Ukrainians deemed to be too patriotic were murdered when sent through "filtration camps." I must highlight here that in order for something to rise to the level of genocide, only one of these actions has to be taken. Yet, it's arguable that Russia has committed all five. Is there any way to get this type of information to the Trump camp? |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:08:52 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:09:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: I think that most people would accept a peace deal that entailed Ukraine ceding what's currently occupied, provided they got to maintain military power and domestic/foreign policy agency. The problem is, there is no evidence that Russia is interested in such a deal, and there's tons of evidence to the contrary. Putin and Russian leadership as a whole have constantly signaled that their war goals remain in place, in terms of demilitarization and denazification. One of the last times negotiations were brought up, Putin stated that the starting point for negotiations to begin was ceding the entirety of the four occupied oblasts and agreeing not to join NATO. In effect, that's what the war is still being fought over, not retaking occupied Donbas or Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, which is not going to happen given the current state of the ZSU. What would most UKRAINIAN"S accept? I think it's their country and they should make the call. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:11:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXb4fYgWkAAHp3f?format=jpg&name=medium
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:36:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Not enough. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXZ0dRRWsAAiD7B?format=jpg&name=small Nothing will be until an administration wants to build up the U.S. military again like Reagan did. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:37:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 45 sec video. In some cases, PoWs liberated from the Japanese who had been held in more isolated areas had a hard time believing that the troops liberating them were actually Americans. The Japanese had kept them from any information that the Japanese were losing. Therefore, when a bunch of US troops showed up in Olive Green uniforms (as opposed to the khaki or olive drab used earlier in the war) wearing M1 steel helmets (instead of the "doughboys") which somewhat resembled Japanese helmets, and had yellowish skin (from taking Atabrine for malaria), many prisoners initially thought thought their liberation was all an elaborate ruse by the Japanese; right up until the cigarettes, chocolate, and rations came out! |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:38:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: The devil in the details is the US didn’t allow Japan South Korea or Australia bid on them. Maybe a little bit of competition could help fix our shipyard industry. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I'm sure if you look into more details on the bid that the devil is in it. On the surface, it is probably because the U.S. wanted to have U.S. ship making facilities making the ships instead of a foreign country. The devil in the details is the US didn’t allow Japan South Korea or Australia bid on them. Maybe a little bit of competition could help fix our shipyard industry. American jobs, that's what I figured. http://breakingdefense.com/2024/08/outsourcing-the-us-shipyard-industrial-base-will-outsource-american-sovereignty/ Earlier this year, Navy leadership floated the controversial idea of coproduction of US Navy ships with foreign shipyards and expanding the use of foreign yards for ship repair. This would be a disastrous mistake both for our Navy and for America’s shipbuilding industrial base — especially because we can build better at home with our domestic workforce. If we need more ships or repairs for our national security fleet, the answer is not to outsource our Navy’s shipbuilding to Korea and Japan, kicking American shipyard workers to the curb. Which is why the US government must focus on long-term investment in America’s shipyard industrial base, just as private industry has invested in itself. While the talking point of outsourcing shipbuilding as the easy answer may look good in headlines, it’s the exact opposite of a solution to this urgent problem. Instead, consistent, predictable budgets and acquisition strategies from government customers coupled with enforcement of existing laws, like the Jones Act, are critical to maintaining and expanding our domestic shipyard industry. Some of our allies took the outsourcing path, and now are desperately trying to rebuild the industrial base back to what it once was — but they have lost the technical expertise, the infrastructure, and most importantly, the craftsmen to make it a reality. As a nation, why would we ever entertain this idea when we can see what it has done to our allies? Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro has said rightly that “we must explore any and all opportunities to expand our own shipbuilding capability.” Del Toro himself has identified several promising ideas that would do just that, such as multiyear procurement contracts and advance procurement funding. These are good ideas, but they must be done in our homeland, not by sending hard earned tax dollars and jobs overseas to bolster another country’s industrial base. Both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump say they want the federal government to buy a greater share of its products from American companies. Both presidents issued “Buy American” executive orders after taking office. Both leaders should apply this bipartisan principle to our Navy and commit to building and repairing America’s Navy in America in 2025 and beyond. It is good economic policy. It is good national security policy and it is 100 percent bipartisan. There is a lot at stake. Our sailors safeguard the seas and protect the livelihoods of everyday Americans and billions around the globe. America’s sailors deserve the best ships we can provide them — those ships are built and maintained in America by American workers in American shipyards. Navy leaders should not outsource our national security but should grow the fleet of the future here in America. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:40:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Propaganda. How many boats & troops were lost in the operation? What was on the tower for the Russian military that got destroyed? We still know nothing of substance about this small tactical raid. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:43:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By belted_guns: Is there any way to get this type of information to the Trump camp? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By belted_guns: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Personal attacks and terrible use of the English language aside, it very much so is. Genocide has an actual legal definition, and it doesn't mean "killing every single member of the group." The Genocide Convention of 1948 defines genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." The five acts include killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. In terms of intent, there is an overwhelming abundance of it on the part of Russian leadership. Putin has been very open in his beliefs that there is no Ukrainian people. In his view and that of Russian imperial nationalists as a whole, the linguistic divergence of what would become Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians was imposed by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth as an attack on Russian national cohesion. Then the Austro-Hungarians were involved in promoting the allegedly fictional idea of a Ukrainian nation prior to WW1. Then Lenin and the early Bolsheviks supposedly erred by giving the Ukrainians a Republic within the USSR, including contemporary Southeastern Ukraine in it, and promoting Ukrainian language and culture via the policies of Korenizatsiia. Then the Nazis supposedly got involved and promoted Ukrainian nationalism-separatism. Then it was the CIA, MI6, the Zionists, the EU, etc. Ukrainians, in the mind of Putin, are the consequence of conspiracies at the hands of the Poles, Austro-Hungarians, Lenin, Nazis, Western intelligence agencies, etc. Hence, contemporary Russian imperialism is necessary to correct this historical slight against Russian civilization, which in the minds of Russian nationalists began in the medieval commonwealth of Kyivan Rus and stretches for 1,000 years into the present day. Beyond Putin, Medvedev has referred to Ukrainians as a race of "bastards and freaks," and he has of course denied that there is a separate Ukrainian language. Surkov, Putin's main adviser on Ukraine policy for a number of years, said that there is no Ukraine and there are no Ukrainians, and that the belief that one is a Ukrainian is a sickness of the mind. Gubarev, the first "prime minister" of the "DPR," said that if needed, they will kill millions of Ukrainians. Russian State TV regularly refers to Ukrainians as Nazis, fascists, satanists, traitors, homosexuals, etc. We're kind of in a unique position in which where this is no shortage of evidence of genocidal intent on the part of the Russian state. It is here that I must emphasis that there is no requirement for there to be an overall plan for something to constitute genocide. An overall plan can be helpful in terms of establishing intent, but it's not a necessary feature by itself. There is no evidence of an overarching order being given by Hitler to exterminate Jews, and one likely doesn't exist. With intent out of the way, let's get into actions. Russia has forcibly transferred at bare minimum tens of thousands of Ukrainian children from Ukraine to Russia, where they have been subject to brainwashing, put up for adoption by Russian families, and had significant obstacles placed between them and reunification with their families. This is obviously a case of genocidal action. In terms of preventing births, millions of Ukrainians were forced through filtration camps in occupied territory, and there is evidence to suggest that the Russians deliberately screened for fertile women of breeding age and deliberately deported them to Russia. Russian soldiers who have participated in sexual violence against Ukrainian women have openly stated that their goal in doing so was to prevent them from making more Ukrainians. In terms of imposing living conditions aimed at destroying the group, Russian propagandists brag about the harm they are causing to Ukrainian civilians by strikes on infrastructure, we know that Ukrainians are denied medical care and medicine in occupied territory if they refuse to accept Russian passports, we know that Ukrainians have been held in terrible conditions in "filtration camps" for extended periods of time, etc. Regarding causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, Russian forces use torture as a matter of policy everywhere they occupy, and just speaking Ukrainian or displaying the Ukrainian flag is enough to wind up in a torture chamber. Finally, in terms of killing members of the group, tens of thousands of civilians were murdered in Mariupol, Russia targets civilians on a daily basis with drones and other munitions, and Ukrainians deemed to be too patriotic were murdered when sent through "filtration camps." I must highlight here that in order for something to rise to the level of genocide, only one of these actions has to be taken. Yet, it's arguable that Russia has committed all five. Is there any way to get this type of information to the Trump camp? Copy it to Laura Loomer on X. She has Trump's ear and can relay it to him. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:46:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXbp8xBWwAAa9zG?format=jpg&name=large Link to Defense News article Fucking hell! This is me stamping my feet and shaking my fist. There were two dozen AH1W Super Cobras that were excess defense articles in 2021. That would have been really nice to transfer to Ukraine in response to Putin's buildup. 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 10:58:07 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:00:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Copy it to Laura Loomer on X. She has Trump's ear and can relay it to him. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:03:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: US Merchant Mariners run less than 200 ships. China calls their ”mariners” seafarers and run 7,000 ships. And no they don’t count anyone with a boat. China’s ships are vastly larger than ours. So not sure what you are laughing about. The US ship industry is a disaster. Edit more info: last year the US navy had 8 ships built and decommissioned 12. Every single ship currently being built for the navy is YEARS behind schedule. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By fike: Lol. 1.7 million seafarers vs merchant marines? Are they counting anyone with a boat? US Merchant Mariners run less than 200 ships. China calls their ”mariners” seafarers and run 7,000 ships. And no they don’t count anyone with a boat. China’s ships are vastly larger than ours. So not sure what you are laughing about. The US ship industry is a disaster. Edit more info: last year the US navy had 8 ships built and decommissioned 12. Every single ship currently being built for the navy is YEARS behind schedule. These are FLAGGED. No one flags under US regulations, they are too restrictive, hence Panama and such for their flag. China doesn't have anywhere near the level of US regs, so they can sail under the China flag. Of course the Navy is underfunded (and DEI'd to the point of absurdity). 12 out of 16 years under commies will do that. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:05:27 AM EST
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This guy's been trying for a long time, and
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:17:03 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:18:26 AM EST
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Air to air kill with a ordnance drop.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:19:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: And that is the exact intent of putin sayng it. If western people believe this is not one country invading another country but rather a russia problem, then they don't care. Again, that is the exact goal of putin saying it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: I've heard many Russians (to include Putin himself) portray this as a civil war between two "Russian" peoples, one of whom has supposedly been brainwashed by the west into thinking that it's a separate people. That's where people come up with this stupid shit, knowingly or unknowingly. And that is the exact intent of putin sayng it. If western people believe this is not one country invading another country but rather a russia problem, then they don't care. Again, that is the exact goal of putin saying it. Putin lies, so any way he tries to spin the war must be questioned, then rejected. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:20:46 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:21:45 AM EST
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:34:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Do_it_cropped-762.gifhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXbp8xBWwAAa9zG?format=jpg&name=large /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Do_it_cropped-762.gifETA: Link to Defense News article Not only should we do it, it should be us refusing the sale to Slovakia, not the other way around. As long as Slovakia and Hungary are governed by their current administrations, we should not sell them any of our military technology that is even remotely sensitive in nature. Both Fico and Orban are Putin's butt buddies, so anything we provide to them would be akin to handing it over to Putin directly. |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:41:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Article from The Guardian linked here. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Uh_yeah-652.gif They should have NEVER talked about it publicly in the first place. Biden - ever hear of F**king OPSEC??? CMOS 
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Posted: 9/14/2024 11:55:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: They should have NEVER talked about it publicly in the first place. Biden - ever hear of F**king OPSEC??? CMOS |
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Posted: 9/14/2024 12:09:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: 45 sec video. Translated version.
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Posted: 9/14/2024 12:17:44 PM EST
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🇷🇺🇺🇦 The Russian Ministry of Defense reported a new prisoner exchange according to the formula "103 for 103". The released include Russian servicemen who were defending against the AFU offensive in the Kursk Region. The Russian soldiers are currently in the Republic of Belarus and will soon return home.
The previous prisoner exchange took place yesterday, during which 49 Russian servicemen were freed. Even then, some sources reported that this was just the first stage of a larger process of mutual prisoner transfers. It is worth noting that the mediation in the negotiations was again provided by the United Arab Emirates, whose efforts have previously led to the release of dozens of Russian soldiers from AFU captivity. The authorities of the so-called Ukraine have not yet commented on the situation. Yesterday, Russia released 49 of its soldiers as part of the exchange, returning the same number of AFU members to the opponent. This included representatives of the National Guard and other structures, 19 of whom were officers. #Russia #Ukraine
🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk direction Situation by the end of September 13, 2024 In Glushkovo district, the AFU occupied several buildings to the south of Tetkino. To the east, the enemy took advantage of the diversion of forces to the Russian Armed Forces counter-offensive operation at the Snagost' - Viktorovka boundary, and attacked Russian positions south of Glushkovo. The AFU managed to push back the Russian Armed Forces from the village of Novyi Put' and are now conducting an offensive on Veseloe located to the north. Footage of a defeated column of AFU equipment in Korenevo district, shot northwest of the recently liberated Apanasovka, has appeared online. In Sudzha district, it appears that Cherkasskoe Porechnoe has completely fallen under the control of the enemy. In the Sumy region, the Russian air force hit enemy military facilities in Yampil'. 
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