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Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:31:51 AM EDT
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Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

This is why Mars can't have nice things.
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Well mars may have meters, but I know for fact that ROVs operate in the gulf of mexico at least 6000 ft.  so there
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:35:24 AM EDT
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*Snicker*
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Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

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*Snicker*
Lulz.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:36:09 AM EDT
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Warheads have to be really robust as they have to survive extremes in G force, fratricide of nearby nuclear explosions and the fierce heat of reentry.  So I could see a warhead surviving relatively intact from 18000 feet.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:36:35 AM EDT
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Sounds like a movie plot
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Thunderball..
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:46:58 AM EDT
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I thought it was warheads hijacked from a Russian military train by Serbian terrorists?
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:47:24 AM EDT
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Carter or the SSGNs out for a pleasure cruise around that time?

Without any doubt we would snatch that given the opportunity.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:53:06 AM EDT
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Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

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Read the linky.  It gets more and more interesting.  I am beginning to suspect that we did pull a Glomar or maybe a subsurface Glomar like exercise with ROVs.  We certainly have the technology.  There are plenty of ROVs operating in the gulf at 6000 ft easy.
Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

This is why Mars can't have nice things.
I understood that reference.

Jay
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 11:53:49 AM EDT
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I thought it was warheads hijacked from a Russian military train by Serbian terrorists?
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I thought it was warheads hijacked from a Russian military train by Serbian terrorists?
You are correct. Sum of All Fears was the Israeli bomb they found in the desert.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 12:22:45 PM EDT
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One of the cable news channels (not CNN/Fox/MSNBC) scrolled a headline about missing nuclear powered missiles.
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You know we built one in the early 1960's - right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile

Nuclear powered thermal ramjet.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:10:12 PM EDT
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#DeepState
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So someone stole some warheads in a sunken soviet sub that the soviets did not have the tech at the time to retrieve.

I think we all can guess who took those warheads.
#DeepState
Did Q predict it?
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:22:55 PM EDT
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So someone stole some warheads in a sunken soviet sub that the soviets did not have the tech at the time to retrieve.

I think we all can guess who took those warheads.
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The Joooose?
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:26:20 PM EDT
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Glomar Explorer got there first
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Good guess, but wasn't the GE designed to hoist an entire section?  This sub had its tubes forced open.

Let this serve as a reminder to those who scream hysterically every time some new Soviet or Chicomm wonder weapon test bed is on display.  We have a lot of sneaky shit out there waiting to be used.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:31:41 PM EDT
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I'm in for the group buy, but I want my portion delivered before they charge my credit card
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:40:13 PM EDT
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Spain claimed them.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:53:07 PM EDT
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Would you recommend it?  Meaning that book
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Absolutely!

You know what Tom Clancy wrote about? That book starts up where he left off! I like to say "It's all the stuff they wouldn't let him talk about!" Just the chapter about  the sea of Okhotsk is worth the price of the book!
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 1:58:10 PM EDT
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"the next time"????
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18,000 feet of water?  Sweet.  The next time somebody brings me a sketchy nuclear weapon to refurbish, and it looks like it might have been crushed by water pressure, I'll be a little more leery about latent effects from criticality issues.  Thanks for the heads up.
"the next time"????
The last time was deep in the South Atlantic...
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 2:12:57 PM EDT
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Warheads have to be really robust as they have to survive extremes in G force, fratricide of nearby nuclear explosions and the fierce heat of reentry.  So I could see a warhead surviving relatively intact from 18000 feet.
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That and titanium is pretty resistant to salt water.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 2:22:19 PM EDT
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Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

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Read the linky.  It gets more and more interesting.  I am beginning to suspect that we did pull a Glomar or maybe a subsurface Glomar like exercise with ROVs.  We certainly have the technology.  There are plenty of ROVs operating in the gulf at 6000 ft easy.
Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

This is why Mars can't have nice things.
hahaha nice reference
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 2:24:50 PM EDT
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Carter or the SSGNs out for a pleasure cruise around that time?

Without any doubt we would snatch that given the opportunity.
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Carter or the SSGNs out for a pleasure cruise around that time?

Without any doubt we would snatch that given the opportunity.
wow...fast and short lived

"Russia tested four of the missiles between November and February, each resulting in a crash, people who spoke on the condition of anonymity previously told CNBC. The U.S. assessed that the longest test flight lasted just more than two minutes, with the missile flying 22 miles before losing control and crashing. The shortest test lasted four seconds and flew for five miles."
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 2:30:57 PM EDT
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I thought it was warheads hijacked from a Russian military train by Serbian terrorists?
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I thought it was warheads hijacked from a Russian military train by Serbian terrorists?


oops, yup, the other one, ......

Jack Ryan character........

The Sum of All Fears
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:06:01 PM EDT
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Meters.  It's at 6000 meters.

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Actually, I think that is why Mars got one of our "nice things"...  CRASH!!!  Oops!

Imperial Vs. Metric - Silly Me!!!
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:11:30 PM EDT
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Oops, OP was talking about K-219 not K-129

This guy makes a pretty compelling argument that we got the whole sub (in pieces of course)

Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:13:13 PM EDT
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These Guys Boosted it...



SEALS for the Win...
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:14:12 PM EDT
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Good guess, but wasn't the GE designed to hoist an entire section?  This sub had its tubes forced open.

Let this serve as a reminder to those who scream hysterically every time some new Soviet or Chicomm wonder weapon test bed is on display.  We have a lot of sneaky shit out there waiting to be used.
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At the depth the sub was the missile tubes & missile body would have been collapsed on itself making it unlikely anybody could pry anything out of them on the bottom.

Wrong boat
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:23:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:53:25 PM EDT
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Then what explains the mechanical marks on the outsides of the doors?
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They weren't pried open, the crew purposely ejected them. They're somewhere a few miles back from where they sank and a few miles down from sea level.
Then what explains the mechanical marks on the outsides of the doors?
Those weren't mechanical marks...those were claw marks.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:56:34 PM EDT
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You know we built one in the early 1960's - right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile

Nuclear powered thermal ramjet.
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One of the cable news channels (not CNN/Fox/MSNBC) scrolled a headline about missing nuclear powered missiles.
You know we built one in the early 1960's - right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile

Nuclear powered thermal ramjet.


We cannot allow a nuclear propulsion gap!

Time to dust off Pluto and update it.  I still get perma-wood everytime I think of that concept.

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