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Posted: 10/10/2021 4:10:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Winner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tom Hardy. Way better actor then Idris. Winner. "Bond, James fookin Bond, int it? You fookin cunt" |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 4:22:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pretty sure that Idris Elba has said he's too old to play the part. I think Tom Hiddelston could do it, but to many people would say "why is Loki playing James Bond?" Michael Fassenbender would be good, too, but the Brits would collectively shit themselves if a German played Bond. They didn`t seem to mind an irishman (Brosnan) playing Bond. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 6:00:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fleming's Bond was dark and unpleasant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly right. The people who made this movie HATED James Bond. They literally made him toxic to everything and gave him nothing to live for. James Bond cannot return. Period, end of sentence. So they made him like Ian Fleming’s Bond? And was never truly happy, nor did he feel he was deserving of happiness. Which is why the ending on this one worked so well IMO |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 6:03:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe they have all been English or Scots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL I think we're well past Fleming's books!  Idris Elba is too old to play Bond now. What about Alexander Skarsgård? Or Karl Urban? I believe they have all been English or Scots. One Australian |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 6:19:22 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s right up there with Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury. Can you imagine the outcry if a white actor played Blade, the Black Panther, or the Falcon.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: James Bond isn't black. It’s right up there with Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury. Can you imagine the outcry if a white actor played Blade, the Black Panther, or the Falcon. Have you every heard of the term whitewashing? You literally have 100 movies contradicting your exact point. Can I imagine the outcry in white people playing non-white characters in comic movies? You mean like... Liam Neeson playing the Asian character Ra's al Ghul Tom Hardy playing a Bane, a character with a latin mother (this one is more of a stretch) Tilda Swinton plays the Ancient One, an Asian character in the comics Justin Chatwin playing a Japanese Goku character in DragonBallZ Johnny Depp playing Tonto in Lone Ranger D.B. Sweeney plays Terry Fitzgerald, who is African-American in Spawn Benedict Cumberbatch playing the villain Khan Noonien Singh, an Indian character in Star Trek Into the Darkness Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers Angelina Jolie playing Fox in Wanted. She was black in the comics. And that's not counting the James Bond movies with white actors playing non-white Characters from the books. Or the numerous films all throughout the 50s-70s of popular white actors playing non-white characters. But please, read for yourself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film#Examples_of_associated_cases |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 6:53:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers  
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers https://media3.giphy.com/media/l3vRkwv2Yz6i8rDwY/200.gif Starship Troopers was originally a book. Johnny Rico was Filipino in the book. In the movie, they changed it to Argentina so they could cast a white/European character. https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Juan_Rico_ Juan Rico was the privileged (and only) son of a wealthy Filipino family |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:10:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Starship Troopers was originally a book. Johnny Rico was Filipino in the book. In the movie, they changed it to Argentina so they could cast a white/European character. https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Juan_Rico_ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers https://media3.giphy.com/media/l3vRkwv2Yz6i8rDwY/200.gif Starship Troopers was originally a book. Johnny Rico was Filipino in the book. In the movie, they changed it to Argentina so they could cast a white/European character. https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Juan_Rico_ Juan Rico was the privileged (and only) son of a wealthy Filipino family 
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:12:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers https://media3.giphy.com/media/l3vRkwv2Yz6i8rDwY/200.gif Starship Troopers was originally a book. Johnny Rico was Filipino in the book. In the movie, they changed it to Argentina so they could cast a white/European character. https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Juan_Rico_ Juan Rico was the privileged (and only) son of a wealthy Filipino family https://c.tenor.com/ck_iiB9lBMcAAAAC/leia-i-know.gif My bad. The book is actually a great science fiction novel. I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it. Just an easy read with lots of interesting political themes. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:24:44 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: according to that film it only goes to 009. It doesn’t go to 11 !?!  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My bad. The book is actually a great science fiction novel. I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it. Just an easy read with lots of interesting political themes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers https://media3.giphy.com/media/l3vRkwv2Yz6i8rDwY/200.gif Starship Troopers was originally a book. Johnny Rico was Filipino in the book. In the movie, they changed it to Argentina so they could cast a white/European character. https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Juan_Rico_ Juan Rico was the privileged (and only) son of a wealthy Filipino family https://c.tenor.com/ck_iiB9lBMcAAAAC/leia-i-know.gif My bad. The book is actually a great science fiction novel. I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it. Just an easy read with lots of interesting political themes. The movie came out when I was in high school. So I’m not burdened with having to dislike the movie because it has nothing in common with the book. I can just enjoy it for what it is- a stupid 90’s movie full of violence and nudity. What’s not to like?! I’ll read the book one of these days. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:27:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you every heard of the term whitewashing? You literally have 100 movies contradicting your exact point. Can I imagine the outcry in white people playing non-white characters in comic movies? You mean like... Liam Neeson playing the Asian character Ra's al Ghul Tom Hardy playing a Bane, a character with a latin mother (this one is more of a stretch) Tilda Swinton plays the Ancient One, an Asian character in the comics Justin Chatwin playing a Japanese Goku character in DragonBallZ Johnny Depp playing Tonto in Lone Ranger D.B. Sweeney plays Terry Fitzgerald, who is African-American in Spawn Benedict Cumberbatch playing the villain Khan Noonien Singh, an Indian character in Star Trek Into the Darkness Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers Angelina Jolie playing Fox in Wanted. She was black in the comics. And that's not counting the James Bond movies with white actors playing non-white Characters from the books. Or the numerous films all throughout the 50s-70s of popular white actors playing non-white characters. But please, read for yourself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film#Examples_of_associated_cases Don't forget John Wayne playing Genghis Khan or Charleton Heston playing a Mexican police detective!
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe they have all been English or Scots. Oh wow, I thought Urban was English but it turns out he's a Kiwi! And they could always fake English accents, right? I mean, those guys are always faking American accents (brilliantly)! |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:32:09 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget John Wayne playing Genghis Khan or Charleton Heston playing a Mexican police detective! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have you every heard of the term whitewashing? You literally have 100 movies contradicting your exact point. Can I imagine the outcry in white people playing non-white characters in comic movies? You mean like... Liam Neeson playing the Asian character Ra's al Ghul Tom Hardy playing a Bane, a character with a latin mother (this one is more of a stretch) Tilda Swinton plays the Ancient One, an Asian character in the comics Justin Chatwin playing a Japanese Goku character in DragonBallZ Johnny Depp playing Tonto in Lone Ranger D.B. Sweeney plays Terry Fitzgerald, who is African-American in Spawn Benedict Cumberbatch playing the villain Khan Noonien Singh, an Indian character in Star Trek Into the Darkness Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers Angelina Jolie playing Fox in Wanted. She was black in the comics. And that's not counting the James Bond movies with white actors playing non-white Characters from the books. Or the numerous films all throughout the 50s-70s of popular white actors playing non-white characters. But please, read for yourself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film#Examples_of_associated_cases Don't forget John Wayne playing Genghis Khan or Charleton Heston playing a Mexican police detective! My all time favorite is Mickey Rooney.  
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:34:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget John Wayne playing Genghis Khan or Charleton Heston playing a Mexican police detective! Or Sean Connery playing a Japanese fisherman! 
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:34:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly right. The people who made this movie HATED James Bond. They literally made him toxic to everything and gave him nothing to live for. James Bond cannot return. Period, end of sentence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: not going to watch it. they destroyed the character. Exactly right. The people who made this movie HATED James Bond. They literally made him toxic to everything and gave him nothing to live for. James Bond cannot return. Period, end of sentence. James Bond was never one man. He's a MI6 spy persona. That's what always made it believable when they switched. Granted, all of the actors fit the mold. Craig was a good Bond. We'll see what the next movie looks like, but it's not just his version of the character. They'll reset and move on. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:39:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fleming's Bond was dark and unpleasant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly right. The people who made this movie HATED James Bond. They literally made him toxic to everything and gave him nothing to live for. James Bond cannot return. Period, end of sentence. So they made him like Ian Fleming’s Bond? I read a couple Fleming books. They were pretty bad. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:42:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you every heard of the term whitewashing? You literally have 100 movies contradicting your exact point. Can I imagine the outcry in white people playing non-white characters in comic movies? You mean like... Liam Neeson playing the Asian character Ra's al Ghul Tom Hardy playing a Bane, a character with a latin mother (this one is more of a stretch) Tilda Swinton plays the Ancient One, an Asian character in the comics Justin Chatwin playing a Japanese Goku character in DragonBallZ Johnny Depp playing Tonto in Lone Ranger D.B. Sweeney plays Terry Fitzgerald, who is African-American in Spawn Benedict Cumberbatch playing the villain Khan Noonien Singh, an Indian character in Star Trek Into the Darkness Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers Angelina Jolie playing Fox in Wanted. She was black in the comics. And that's not counting the James Bond movies with white actors playing non-white Characters from the books. Or the numerous films all throughout the 50s-70s of popular white actors playing non-white characters. But please, read for yourself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film#Examples_of_associated_cases Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: James Bond isn't black. It’s right up there with Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury. Can you imagine the outcry if a white actor played Blade, the Black Panther, or the Falcon. Have you every heard of the term whitewashing? You literally have 100 movies contradicting your exact point. Can I imagine the outcry in white people playing non-white characters in comic movies? You mean like... Liam Neeson playing the Asian character Ra's al Ghul Tom Hardy playing a Bane, a character with a latin mother (this one is more of a stretch) Tilda Swinton plays the Ancient One, an Asian character in the comics Justin Chatwin playing a Japanese Goku character in DragonBallZ Johnny Depp playing Tonto in Lone Ranger D.B. Sweeney plays Terry Fitzgerald, who is African-American in Spawn Benedict Cumberbatch playing the villain Khan Noonien Singh, an Indian character in Star Trek Into the Darkness Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers Angelina Jolie playing Fox in Wanted. She was black in the comics. And that's not counting the James Bond movies with white actors playing non-white Characters from the books. Or the numerous films all throughout the 50s-70s of popular white actors playing non-white characters. But please, read for yourself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film#Examples_of_associated_cases Those people are all movie stars, chosen for their abilities to fill seats. Keep trying to turn it into racist bullshit though. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:48:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So a trans man of color. Got it. :) Ya know, here we've been hoping that it would go to Idris Elba(can't think of anyone else who has better suave/James Bondness right now), but I think we're probably going to get Michael B Jordan instead. honestly the dude is a good actor. I wish Without remorse had a different name |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:51:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you every heard of the term whitewashing? You literally have 100 movies contradicting your exact point. Can I imagine the outcry in white people playing non-white characters in comic movies? You mean like... Liam Neeson playing the Asian character Ra's al Ghul Tom Hardy playing a Bane, a character with a latin mother (this one is more of a stretch) Tilda Swinton plays the Ancient One, an Asian character in the comics Justin Chatwin playing a Japanese Goku character in DragonBallZ Johnny Depp playing Tonto in Lone Ranger D.B. Sweeney plays Terry Fitzgerald, who is African-American in Spawn Benedict Cumberbatch playing the villain Khan Noonien Singh, an Indian character in Star Trek Into the Darkness Casper Van Dien playing Johnny Rico, a character from Philippines in Starship Troopers Angelina Jolie playing Fox in Wanted. She was black in the comics. And that's not counting the James Bond movies with white actors playing non-white Characters from the books. Or the numerous films all throughout the 50s-70s of popular white actors playing non-white characters. But please, read for yourself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film#Examples_of_associated_cases Sgt Nick Fury and his Howling Commandos (Circa 1963). Not sure how they made him black later on but he didn’t start out that way. And where is the comparable “blackwashing” ? Oh we don’t talk about that! That would be racist!  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 7:53:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:01:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry man I didn’t know Buenos Aires was in the Philippines. Johnny Rico's family were of Philippine heritage, but lived in Buenos Aires, Argentina, in the book. |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:05:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget John Wayne playing Genghis Khan or Charleton Heston playing a Mexican police detective! Don’t forget 55 Days in Peking where all of the major oriental characters were heavily make-uped white folk.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2021 8:16:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnny Rico's family were of Philippine heritage, but lived in Buenos Aires, Argentina, in the book.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 8:39:12 AM EDT
[#25]
But does she get to be a ho like Bond?? I mean that’s part of the allure isn’t it, that Bond sleeps with every woman he meets? |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 8:52:05 AM EDT
[#26]
I'm crossing my fingers for a Peter Dinklage James Bond.
Charlie Day would be entertaining too. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 9:20:59 AM EDT
[#27]
I'm personally tired of being told ugly women of color are beautiful. There are truly beautiful and talented women of color but they try to pass off the ones that look like trannies or crack whores in these roles and it's tiresome.
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Posted: 10/11/2021 11:16:27 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: James Bond was never one man. He's a MI6 spy persona. That's what always made it believable when they switched. Granted, all of the actors fit the mold. Craig was a good Bond. We'll see what the next movie looks like, but it's not just his version of the character. They'll reset and move on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: not going to watch it. they destroyed the character. Exactly right. The people who made this movie HATED James Bond. They literally made him toxic to everything and gave him nothing to live for. James Bond cannot return. Period, end of sentence. James Bond was never one man. He's a MI6 spy persona. That's what always made it believable when they switched. Granted, all of the actors fit the mold. Craig was a good Bond. We'll see what the next movie looks like, but it's not just his version of the character. They'll reset and move on. That's just fan theory. Right up there with John Mason in The Rock actually being Bond (which I kinda like). Examples: Roger Moore's Bond putting flowers on his dead wife's grave, or Craig's Bond having Connery's Bond Aston Martin in storage. Uh....what? It's just a movie, I know. But I think they will be going with that fan theory as the way forward. Lame. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 11:23:01 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And was never truly happy, nor did he feel he was deserving of happiness. Which is why the ending on this one worked so well IMO Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly right. The people who made this movie HATED James Bond. They literally made him toxic to everything and gave him nothing to live for. James Bond cannot return. Period, end of sentence. So they made him like Ian Fleming’s Bond? And was never truly happy, nor did he feel he was deserving of happiness. Which is why the ending on this one worked so well IMO No, they actually made him physically toxic, as in will kill anyone he comes in contact with; specifically the two people in his life that he cares for the most. The ending was stupid. His was not the ultimate sacrifice. He could never live any kind of life again. Even a dark and unpleasant one. His character arc went from "blunt instrument" that refused to love, to someone with nothing left to live for so he just quits. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 11:33:14 AM EDT
[#30]
I saw it yesterday.
That gal could not act cold in the snow. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 11:47:18 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only did it say JAMES BOND will return at the end of the credits as always, Barbara Broccoli had already said that he will remain a man. Cool your tits. This. Too many Karen’s here. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 11:49:48 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The people that are bitching didn't watch the movie. No we saw all the bullshit the studio was spouting a couple of years back and said fuck that shit. The fact that a lot of us said fuck that shit woke whoever was financing this bullshit up and they did an about face. I can't believe how short some of your memories are. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 11:56:03 AM EDT
[#33]
I have a hard time imagining any scenario that would prompt me to drive to a movie theater to watch a movie.
Interest level = less than zero. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 1:51:28 PM EDT
[#34]
I'll watch it at some point. I've liked Craig's version of Bond. Yes, I know him and everyone else in Hollywood are foaming at the mouth liberals. Sometimes you need to let yourselves just be entertained by the dancing monkeys that actors actually are and stop worrying about their politics.
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Posted: 10/11/2021 1:59:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s been my guess for a few years. Hardy would be a good pick also, but I think the Bond franchise may look for a somebody with a smaller footprint than Hardy. Wasn't it the case that most Bonds were actors with less name recognition? I think Hardy would be good but I don't see it happening for one reason or another. |
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