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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:54:28 PM EST
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I thought Space Force was going to be a part of the Air Force.
So if it's under DoD... it'll be like NASA with weapons? Space Force... Air Force... Do we need to rebrand the other services? Ocean Force? Land Force? Coast Force? Crayon Eater Force? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:55:37 PM EST
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I thought Space Force was going to be a part of the Air Force. So if it's under DoD... it'll be like NASA with weapons? Space Force... Air Force... Do we need to rebrand the other services? Ocean Force? Land Force? Coast Force? Crayon Eater Force? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:55:59 PM EST
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1. Army 2. Navy 3. Marine Corps 4. Air Force 6. Space Force Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Space Force is the 6th what is the 5th ? 2. Navy 3. Marine Corps 4. Air Force 6. Space Force |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:56:03 PM EST
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I always wondered if the Navy really would take over (because ships) when space travel becomes common since it is so prevalent in sci-fi. Guess not. In any case, the Pentagon can't just create a new branch. Congress has to authorize it. Whether they would or not, I don't know. I think that it's a bit premature at this point. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:56:06 PM EST
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thank god. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/trump-space-force-air-force/index.html Seems like the difference will be this will be separate from the Air Force, while the proposal last year was to make it a department of the Air Force, like the USMC.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ygex6zRjQM |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:56:10 PM EST
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Should be called the Star Force
 Star Blazers The Movie - Teaser Trailer |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:57:34 PM EST
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Think of all the extra support structure that gets to be stood up. They’ll get a new service academy and everything. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:57:38 PM EST
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If Space Force is the 6th what is the 5th ? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:58:34 PM EST
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Sweet my 10 yr old can be a X-37 pilot/gunner
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:58:36 PM EST
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1. Army 2. Navy 3. Marine Corps 4. Air Force 5. Coast Guard 6. Space Force Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Space Force is the 6th what is the 5th ? 2. Navy 3. Marine Corps 4. Air Force 5. Coast Guard 6. Space Force 
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:58:49 PM EST
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2 thoughts : Seems making Cybercom a separate branch first would have allowed more immediate threat reactions. Is this really just an excuse to take ICBMs away from the AF since they've been plagued with serious issues in that command? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 2:59:48 PM EST
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Coast Guard isn't military. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:00:31 PM EST
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Space shuttle door gunner might become an actual MOS... interesting times we live in. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:00:52 PM EST
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If they take nuclear deterrence and actual space operations seriously, instead of treating them like another place to put F15 GOs, it will be well worth it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think of all the extra support structure that gets to be stood up. They’ll get a new service academy and everything. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:01:00 PM EST
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...why, though? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:01:39 PM EST
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Bullwinkle's Choice: Presidential Guard or President's Private Army?
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:02:00 PM EST
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Separate but equal as per Trump |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:03:24 PM EST
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Doom
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:03:41 PM EST
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USMC was kicking around it's own Space Marine program ten years ago, something called "Hot Eagle" (not making that up). It was imagined to be a sub-orbital landing craft like Scaled Composites' SpaceShipOne/SpaceShipTwo, continental US to anywhere in 2 hours, but just as importantly not legally violating anybody's airspace on the way there, and very difficult to defend against. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:10:10 PM EST
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I would like to know more....
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:12:29 PM EST
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Separate but equal as per Trump |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:17:47 PM EST
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I thought about starting a thread a few weeks back to discuss the history of space warfare between the US and the Russians.
It's been going on for decades, just is pretty hush hush. .22LR was the cartridge of choice due to low recoil and low launch payload weight. Ever hear about all that space debris? 
The Russians and US have back channels to mitigate the encounters, and the Russians have complained a lot over the years. It sucks to launch a military satellite, claim it's for civilian purposes, only to have the US interceptors shoot it up, or do other things to it that turn it into space junk. 
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:18:16 PM EST
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That statement needs an asterisk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Coast Guard isn't military. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:23:01 PM EST
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Man, I wish I could have been Space Force
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:23:43 PM EST
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Man, I wish I could have been Space Force
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:24:28 PM EST
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Fucking oath I'll sign up to be Storm Trooper! |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:24:42 PM EST
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Secret Shuttle Missions
Joint operations
In the early days of the space shuttle program, some of the missions were run jointly by NASA and the military. This was in part because the National Reconnaissance Office had successfully requested the shuttle's payload bay — the part of the shuttle that carried satellites be carried into space — be enlarged to accommodate large military satellites, according to Air & Space Magazine. NRO also wanted polar shuttle missions, since polar missions make it possible to see the Earth's entire surface below (as opposed to equatorial missions, which are limited.) The Air Force went so far as to create a launch pad in Vandenberg, California for polar-orbiting space shuttle missions, but after the Challenger incident, plans to use the pad were permanently mothballed. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:25:03 PM EST
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The question that I have never seen asked is, can/will SpaceX see to the Military directly. Can the airforce or this new space comand, or any branch decide they want to buy 20 BFRs and 60 transports for rapid deployment all across the world? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Space x’s BFR (big Fuc, er Falcon Rocket) is going to bring down the cost of space by another large sum, AGAIN. Pthe second stage can be used as a suborbital transport to anywhere in the world in less than an hour. Its potential for military use has not been discussed much. Kharn |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:27:52 PM EST
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How do you figure? They used to be DOT, now they are DHS. All military are under DOD. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:29:58 PM EST
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Because the Air Force has the largest chunk of the space mission and money that is allocated for that has been taken away for other projects. Since getting NASA paired down so much the satellite network has lost money and waits long time to get permission to fix the ground support network. Getting everything back under one roof means the priorities within the network won't get re-allocated to say a new fighter jet or lateral destroy program at the lower levels as it has been happening in the last two decades.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:30:37 PM EST
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USAF is going to shit itself.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:32:10 PM EST
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How do you figure? They used to be DOT, now they are DHS. All military are under DOD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Coast Guard isn't military. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:32:38 PM EST
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The fight for space is not against aliens. Its happening now with satellites, and soon with other systems like drones with all the unusual suspect. The U.S. has been gradually losing the huge edge we have had in this arena for two generations. It has taken the pentagon to realize that near space control must be maintained to control air space over the battle space.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:33:53 PM EST
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Who will get control of ICBM? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:34:45 PM EST
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USAF missile command would stay the same. Think the AF doesn't give a fuck about nuclear deterrence now.................. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:36:13 PM EST
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:41:35 PM EST
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Interservice transfer here I come!
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:43:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t matter. You enlist at 85 and get a brand new genetically enhanced body. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:45:27 PM EST
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I thought we already had seven uniformed services. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:45:36 PM EST
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Interservice transfer here I come! We had guys who enlisted in a different branch at the end of an enlistment, but I never heard of a lateral transfer to a different service. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:47:00 PM EST
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Coast Guard isn't military. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Space Force is the 6th what is the 5th ? 2. Navy 3. Marine Corps 4. 6. Space Force ETA - I think Donald has been reading too many Dale Brown books. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:47:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought it was 75 in the book. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:47:57 PM EST
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Space JAG Corps! I'll cross examine the fuck out of those martians! |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:50:29 PM EST
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So when do I transfer out of AFSPACE?
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:52:33 PM EST
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Neither is the Air Farce if you want to get picky. ETA - I think Donald has been reading too many Dale Brown books. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:53:58 PM EST
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USAF is going to shit itself. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:54:44 PM EST
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USAF is going to shit itself. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:55:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NOAA and PHS are uniformed services but not exactly military.  
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:56:21 PM EST
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I always wondered if the Navy really would take over (because ships) when space travel becomes common since it is so prevalent in sci-fi. Guess not. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 3:58:52 PM EST
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All of you thinking you'll be a door gunner. I got news for you SILICON VALLEY's got this
 Blade Runner 2049 | Denis Villeneuve | Talks at Google |
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