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Posted: 8/4/2023 8:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkGray: They aren't going to recover it at the pad, but may attempt a booster soft landing in the ocean. Either way, hot staging would risk damaging starship at separation without a way to vent away its ignition gases. I would be really surprised if space x passes on an opportunity to get real world hot staging data by not modding B9 before its flight. It has already been decided. The ship quick disconnect has already been modded to compensate for the added height of the hot staging ring. Elon's going for hot staging, next launch. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 9:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/SpaceX-assembling-superheavy-test-rocket-in-Texas-Now-Official-Starship-Thread/5-2178003/?page=366#i104193007 |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:29:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:34:23 PM EDT
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nice
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:40:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mousehunter]
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I don't know what their plan for the runoff is - but seems to me that capturing, filtering, and reusing would probably be cost effective. Of course, a ditch and a pond probably need permits. Of course, the envro-weenies will try to say water vapor is hazardous pollution. Plus we all know that H20 can kill people...
Need to get my ass back in gear so I will be ready to go camping for another launch. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:51:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mousehunter: Of course, the envro-weenies will try to say water vapor is hazardous pollution. Plus we all know that H20 can kill people... Yea, that Dihydrogen Monoxide is killer stuff!  Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 9:15:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/6/2023 10:15:20 AM EDT
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 SpaceX Booster 9 Raptor Engine Static Fire |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 11:15:20 AM EDT
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Quote Historyingesting just the smallest amount of Dihydrogen Monoxide will kill you |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 11:42:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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Vehicles heading out to pad ... Gonna be a while
LOL Red truck going off road to pass the SPMT on way to Massies!  |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 1:27:40 PM EDT
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Will they run the duluge system with the static fire test today?
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Posted: 8/6/2023 1:30:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Syndicate: Will they run the duluge system with the static fire test today? I would think so. |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 2:11:19 PM EDT
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prop loading now
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Posted: 8/6/2023 2:33:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/6/2023 2:38:10 PM EDT
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SpaceX stream starts in 30 mins
 Starship Super Heavy Static Fire |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:10:25 PM EDT
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Did their deluge system just put out the rocket?
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:12:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stillnothere: Did their deluge system just put out the rocket? lol, no |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:12:30 PM EDT
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So cool, large vapor cloud. Think they said, 4 engines shutdown early. Good data either way and the deluge system is still there.
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:12:49 PM EDT
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How long was it supposed to go?
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:14:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: theskuh]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By theskuh: How long was it supposed to go? ah 5 sec only went 2.7 |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:14:45 PM EDT
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all 33 engines ignited, 4 shut down
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Posted: 8/6/2023 4:15:23 PM EDT
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Wow! Somebody get a squeegee!
So now the next problem might be that all that runoff from the deluge system will wash away the entire Boca Chica beach? That’s a LOT of water! |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 4:32:48 PM EDT
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 Did the Deluge Work? SpaceX Booster 9 Static Fire - Starship Super Heavy |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 4:38:13 PM EDT
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Quote History@2:26 appears to be a lot of small debris kicked up. Hope that was just small trash left on the pad.
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Posted: 8/6/2023 5:03:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/6/2023 6:48:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 8/6/2023 11:47:40 PM EDT
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Pretty neat, getting closer.
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Posted: 8/7/2023 2:01:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7: @2:26 appears to be a lot of small debris kicked up. Hope that was just small trash left on the pad. Likely material from beyond the pad. |
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Posted: 8/7/2023 4:36:18 PM EDT
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off to get its new hot staging ring
 
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Posted: 8/7/2023 7:40:42 PM EDT
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 Booster Engines Vs Booster Bidet & Shouting At Voyager - Deep Space Updates August 7th |
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Posted: 8/7/2023 7:52:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Did they test the water deluge system as well? |
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Posted: 8/7/2023 8:48:14 PM EDT
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massive could of steam in the video says they did.
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Posted: 8/8/2023 6:50:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: I preordered one of those. No idea if it will ever ship or what the deal is. I gotcha again, eh?
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Posted: 8/8/2023 7:07:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: I gotcha again, eh? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: I preordered one of those. No idea if it will ever ship or what the deal is. I gotcha again, eh? You are terrible. Once I retire I will get you back by repeatedly insisting you both come visit, and then you'll have to buy expensive flights to Hawaii. 
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Posted: 8/9/2023 10:12:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2023 4:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 8/10/2023 5:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
That is a monstrous road transport vehicle. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:26:59 PM EDT
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Sorry if its been discussed, is there a large water storage tank like a water tower or something close to the ground and they use large pumps to get the water volume to the pad?
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:33:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7: Sorry if its been discussed, is there a large water storage tank like a water tower or something close to the ground and they use large pumps to get the water volume to the pad? They are using 3 tanks as shown in the post above yours, that are horizontally mounted on the ground. Gas pressure is used to force the water out to the pad not pumps. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:38:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurkerII: They are using 3 tanks as shown in the post above yours, that are horizontally mounted on the ground. Gas pressure is used to force the water out to the pad not pumps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurkerII: Originally Posted By 7: Sorry if its been discussed, is there a large water storage tank like a water tower or something close to the ground and they use large pumps to get the water volume to the pad? They are using 3 tanks as shown in the post above yours, that are horizontally mounted on the ground. Gas pressure is used to force the water out to the pad not pumps. Do you know what kind of gas, and how it's pressurized? |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:56:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Do you know what kind of gas, and how it's pressurized? iirc they were utilizing liquid nitrogen. just a guess but put some LN2 in a tank and let it evaporate |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:54:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: iirc they were utilizing liquid nitrogen. just a guess but put some LN2 in a tank and let it evaporate Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By Anastasios: Do you know what kind of gas, and how it's pressurized? iirc they were utilizing liquid nitrogen. just a guess but put some LN2 in a tank and let it evaporate Thanks, that makes sense. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 7:46:44 PM EDT
[#43]
 How SpaceX Will Guarantee Its Launch Pad Never Fails Again! [Part 2] |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 8:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: elcope]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: You are terrible. Once I retire I will get you back by repeatedly insisting you both come visit, and then you'll have to buy expensive flights to Hawaii. I'll buy your Madsen for a decent profit? I have enough airline miles thanks to the Army to fly in retirement for free for most of the rest of my life. ETA: And since it's C&R, you can send it directly to me once the Form 4 is approved. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 8:30:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: I'll buy your Madsen for a decent profit? I have enough airline miles thanks to the Army to fly in retirement for free for most of the rest of my life. ETA: And since it's C&R, you can send it directly to me once the Form 4 is approved. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: You are terrible. Once I retire I will get you back by repeatedly insisting you both come visit, and then you'll have to buy expensive flights to Hawaii. I'll buy your Madsen for a decent profit? I have enough airline miles thanks to the Army to fly in retirement for free for most of the rest of my life. ETA: And since it's C&R, you can send it directly to me once the Form 4 is approved. That could work. Obviously I will have to sell the Madsen before I move, and if you are interested, of course you would be first in line.  |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 8:53:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: That could work. Obviously I will have to sell the Madsen before I move, and if you are interested, of course you would be first in line. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: You are terrible. Once I retire I will get you back by repeatedly insisting you both come visit, and then you'll have to buy expensive flights to Hawaii. I'll buy your Madsen for a decent profit? I have enough airline miles thanks to the Army to fly in retirement for free for most of the rest of my life. ETA: And since it's C&R, you can send it directly to me once the Form 4 is approved. That could work. Obviously I will have to sell the Madsen before I move, and if you are interested, of course you would be first in line. Deal. Plus anything else you have to sell before the HI move. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 10:13:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVLP3DKOk4Very educational, thank you. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 4:39:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Thanks, that makes sense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Anastasios: Originally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By Anastasios: Do you know what kind of gas, and how it's pressurized? iirc they were utilizing liquid nitrogen. just a guess but put some LN2 in a tank and let it evaporate Thanks, that makes sense. he dives into this around 32 min How SpaceX Will Guarantee Its Launch Pad Never Fails Again! [Part 2] |
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Posted: 8/15/2023 9:49:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: he dives into this around 32 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVLP3DKOk4Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By Anastasios: Originally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By Anastasios: Do you know what kind of gas, and how it's pressurized? iirc they were utilizing liquid nitrogen. just a guess but put some LN2 in a tank and let it evaporate Thanks, that makes sense. he dives into this around 32 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVLP3DKOk4Yes, that's the same one Chokey posted. Great video. |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 11:14:45 AM EDT
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