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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Honestly, using something like the new momentus space tugs to push a satellite out of orbit or spray paint onto it's solar panels would be better. https://momentus.space/ The Space Force Should be clearing out space junk as practice. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
The First Nation to have global anti-ICBM satellite coverage and the willingness to actually make use of it (which includes having rooted out fifth-columnists in government and the media) will become the first hyper power. We're either there or close enough. View Quote |
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Elon Musk shows off massive "Starship" spacecraft prototype |
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
I’m curious to see what kind of redundancies they plan on installing for manned missions. To the moon isn’t that big of a deal since the orbit is pretty much the same. However, trips to Mars has to hit orbital windows when the Earth and Mars align in their orbits that are like 18 months apart. So once you’re out, you’re cut off from resupply until the next 18 month orbital window opens up. Concepts like mining Mars to make return fuel seems sketchy at the first run. Mining in spacesuits and minimal infrastructure seems difficult to nearly impossible. I don't see them hauling a boring machine on their first trip or ever considering their size and weight, they’d need to be built there. So sending multiple Starships to stage in place seems like the only real safe solution. Parking return fuel ships in orbit for the return home flight. Then do you send just one? Or do you send two just Incase Murphy happens and shit gets fucked up. Provisions will have to be sent to plan for a worst case scenario where food production planet side doesn’t fly. Provisions would have to be trucked there or they’d be stuck on a space Vegan diet. With a vertical lift and landing system, it seems difficult to load and unload equipment. On Mars or the moon, there is no established landing pad with infrastructure present to assist. Imagine that big bastard launching from the dirt surface of the moon or Mars and the amount of debris that will be kicked up. So their little colony is going to have to be set aways a way from wherever they touch down. View Quote |
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Any working concepts where you can drop a mining operation and have it producing usable resources? I can see mining CO2 from the atmosphere and breaking it down with solar power to generate oxygen, but anything material wise seems currently unfeasible? Rolling out a single sheet of steel requires significant infrastructure and resources. You’d have to built an electrical smelter since there is no coal or oil resources, presumably.
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
Any working concepts where you can drop a mining operation and have it producing usable resources? I can see mining CO2 from the atmosphere and breaking it down with solar power to generate oxygen, but anything material wise seems currently unfeasible? Rolling out a single sheet of steel requires significant infrastructure and resources. You’d have to built an electrical smelter since there is no coal or oil resources, presumably. View Quote |
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When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
I’m curious to see what kind of redundancies they plan on installing for manned missions. To the moon isn’t that big of a deal since the orbit is pretty much the same. However, trips to Mars has to hit orbital windows when the Earth and Mars align in their orbits that are like 18 months apart. So once you’re out, you’re cut off from resupply until the next 18 month orbital window opens up. Concepts like mining Mars to make return fuel seems sketchy at the first run. Mining in spacesuits and minimal infrastructure seems difficult to nearly impossible. I don't see them hauling a boring machine on their first trip or ever considering their size and weight, they’d need to be built there. So sending multiple Starships to stage in place seems like the only real safe solution. Parking return fuel ships in orbit for the return home flight. Then do you send just one? Or do you send two just Incase Murphy happens and shit gets fucked up. Provisions will have to be sent to plan for a worst case scenario where food production planet side doesn’t fly. Provisions would have to be trucked there or they’d be stuck on a space Vegan diet. With a vertical lift and landing system, it seems difficult to load and unload equipment. On Mars or the moon, there is no established landing pad with infrastructure present to assist. Imagine that big bastard launching from the dirt surface of the moon or Mars and the amount of debris that will be kicked up. So their little colony is going to have to be set aways a way from wherever they touch down. View Quote From things I've read and people that I've spoken with on this, a crew of 6 for 1 year will need 26,000lbs of food that will take up 1100 cubic ft of volume. That's for only 1 year. It's also weird to think that air can be a logistics problem. Plan out how much oxygen and nitrogen would be needed for 30 months +. |
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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:
Oh ya. With 18 month windows for 6 month trips a lot of forward thinking, logistics, and shit going right needs to happen. From things I've read and people that I've spoken with on this, a crew of 6 for 1 year will need 26,000lbs of food that will take up 1100 cubic ft of volume. That's for only 1 year. It's also weird to think that air can be a logistics problem. Plan out how much oxygen and nitrogen would be needed for 30 months +. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:
Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
I’m curious to see what kind of redundancies they plan on installing for manned missions. To the moon isn’t that big of a deal since the orbit is pretty much the same. However, trips to Mars has to hit orbital windows when the Earth and Mars align in their orbits that are like 18 months apart. So once you’re out, you’re cut off from resupply until the next 18 month orbital window opens up. Concepts like mining Mars to make return fuel seems sketchy at the first run. Mining in spacesuits and minimal infrastructure seems difficult to nearly impossible. I don't see them hauling a boring machine on their first trip or ever considering their size and weight, they’d need to be built there. So sending multiple Starships to stage in place seems like the only real safe solution. Parking return fuel ships in orbit for the return home flight. Then do you send just one? Or do you send two just Incase Murphy happens and shit gets fucked up. Provisions will have to be sent to plan for a worst case scenario where food production planet side doesn’t fly. Provisions would have to be trucked there or they’d be stuck on a space Vegan diet. With a vertical lift and landing system, it seems difficult to load and unload equipment. On Mars or the moon, there is no established landing pad with infrastructure present to assist. Imagine that big bastard launching from the dirt surface of the moon or Mars and the amount of debris that will be kicked up. So their little colony is going to have to be set aways a way from wherever they touch down. From things I've read and people that I've spoken with on this, a crew of 6 for 1 year will need 26,000lbs of food that will take up 1100 cubic ft of volume. That's for only 1 year. It's also weird to think that air can be a logistics problem. Plan out how much oxygen and nitrogen would be needed for 30 months +. |
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When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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They've been talking about sending multiple starships and supplies ahead of time so that there are materials and other necessities in place there ready to build when the people show up. he talked about it in the presentation last night too.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Psssh. They can just grow potatoes in their shit with Martian soil. I saw it on a documentary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:
Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
I’m curious to see what kind of redundancies they plan on installing for manned missions. To the moon isn’t that big of a deal since the orbit is pretty much the same. However, trips to Mars has to hit orbital windows when the Earth and Mars align in their orbits that are like 18 months apart. So once you’re out, you’re cut off from resupply until the next 18 month orbital window opens up. Concepts like mining Mars to make return fuel seems sketchy at the first run. Mining in spacesuits and minimal infrastructure seems difficult to nearly impossible. I don't see them hauling a boring machine on their first trip or ever considering their size and weight, they’d need to be built there. So sending multiple Starships to stage in place seems like the only real safe solution. Parking return fuel ships in orbit for the return home flight. Then do you send just one? Or do you send two just Incase Murphy happens and shit gets fucked up. Provisions will have to be sent to plan for a worst case scenario where food production planet side doesn’t fly. Provisions would have to be trucked there or they’d be stuck on a space Vegan diet. With a vertical lift and landing system, it seems difficult to load and unload equipment. On Mars or the moon, there is no established landing pad with infrastructure present to assist. Imagine that big bastard launching from the dirt surface of the moon or Mars and the amount of debris that will be kicked up. So their little colony is going to have to be set aways a way from wherever they touch down. From things I've read and people that I've spoken with on this, a crew of 6 for 1 year will need 26,000lbs of food that will take up 1100 cubic ft of volume. That's for only 1 year. It's also weird to think that air can be a logistics problem. Plan out how much oxygen and nitrogen would be needed for 30 months +. I wish it explained more how he separates the stuff in the soil that is bad for plants and humans before he mixed the shit in it though Also, I want to know what kind of tarp they have that holds back a 14 psi pressure diff on the habitat with an endless air source. |
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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: It was a good documentary. I wish it explained more how he separates the stuff in the soil that is bad for plants and humans before he mixed the shit in it though Also, I want to know what kind of tarp they have that holds back a 14 psi pressure diff on the habitat with an endless air source. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:
Oh ya. With 18 month windows for 6 month trips a lot of forward thinking, logistics, and shit going right needs to happen. From things I've read and people that I've spoken with on this, a crew of 6 for 1 year will need 26,000lbs of food that will take up 1100 cubic ft of volume. That's for only 1 year. It's also weird to think that air can be a logistics problem. Plan out how much oxygen and nitrogen would be needed for 30 months +. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Launch windows may be about every 26 months but verify. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By SpanishInquisition:
The hab may have been 4psi pure O2, or some other <1bar high O2 mix. Easy to get there, though the co2 scrubbers would need to be off for the plants to thrive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpanishInquisition:
Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: It was a good documentary. I wish it explained more how he separates the stuff in the soil that is bad for plants and humans before he mixed the shit in it though Also, I want to know what kind of tarp they have that holds back a 14 psi pressure diff on the habitat with an endless air source. |
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Originally Posted By Chairborne: Nuclear power is a necessity. Solar is barely feasible due to size, weight, and distance from the sun. It’s got a be a reactor, fusion would be the bomb but fission will work fine too. View Quote I’m not sure how easy it is to find water there to use for the nuke turbines. Even a closed loop system would require a lot of water. Too much to haul with you from Earth. |
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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: Oh ya. With 18 month windows for 6 month trips a lot of forward thinking, logistics, and shit going right needs to happen. From things I've read and people that I've spoken with on this, a crew of 6 for 1 year will need 26,000lbs of food that will take up 1100 cubic ft of volume. That's for only 1 year. It's also weird to think that air can be a logistics problem. Plan out how much oxygen and nitrogen would be needed for 30 months +. View Quote I don’t see the economic potential for being on Mars yet. I’d love to see it explored by men. The only way I see it happening is the project is funded by earth based funding streams like Starlink and commercial orbital lift capacity. Sure many would love to go as a tourist type adventure, or maybe to escape clown world based governance. I don’t see that being cheap though. It’s one of the main reasons SpaceX has remained private. You start telling shareholders that you’re going to shovel cash into this boondoggle with no real plan for a profit, and stockholders will abandon ship. |
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
They've been talking about sending multiple starships and supplies ahead of time so that there are materials and other necessities in place there ready to build when the people show up. he talked about it in the presentation last night too. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
This. He literally talked about all of this just last night lol. At least 2 according to Musk will be sent ahead of time. Plus what they then bring with. A lot of you guys are thinking in "NASA" terms. Musk is gonna be rolling these ships and engines out and sending them. He can do that because he is keeping his operations running at about 10% what NASA is spending for basically the same things. Also, someone mentions can a Tesla be used as a Rover and you could literally see the light bulb go off in his head on stage lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigPony:
Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
They've been talking about sending multiple starships and supplies ahead of time so that there are materials and other necessities in place there ready to build when the people show up. he talked about it in the presentation last night too. |
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Originally Posted By Chairborne: That would make more sense if Tesla wouldn’t be bankrupt long before starship flies to Mars. View Quote As of May 31, 2019, the value of SpaceX has risen to $33.3 billion. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/spacex-valuation-33point3-billion-after-starlink-satellites-fundraising.html If he closed Tesla tomorrow it has no affect on Space X Musk literally has investors coming up to him and giving him 1 billion dollars just to go to the moon. |
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
What does Tesla have to do with Space X? As of May 31, 2019, the value of SpaceX has risen to $33.3 billion. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/spacex-valuation-33point3-billion-after-starlink-satellites-fundraising.html If he closed Tesla tomorrow it has no affect on Space X View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigPony:
Originally Posted By Chairborne: That would make more sense if Tesla wouldn’t be bankrupt long before starship flies to Mars. As of May 31, 2019, the value of SpaceX has risen to $33.3 billion. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/spacex-valuation-33point3-billion-after-starlink-satellites-fundraising.html If he closed Tesla tomorrow it has no affect on Space X |
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Originally Posted By Chairborne: I’m fully aware, thank you. Just pointing out that taking a “tesla” rover to Mars doesn’t work if there is no Tesla. I’m a Musk and SpaceX fan, but Tesla is a dead man walking. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger: You’re right about that. Big photovoltaic fields are miles across here and pump out area megawatts. You’d have like a 40% loss there due to distance from the sun. I’d like to see how they’d be installed remotely or by guys in spacesuits. Hell, show me a robot that can dig holes for the footers by itself and I’ll be impressed. I want to see Musk convince the space hippies that they need to launch a nuke plant on top of that rocket. They cried like little bitches about Cassini. I’m not sure how easy it is to find water there to use for the nuke turbines. Even a closed loop system would require a lot of water. Too much to haul with you from Earth. View Quote You certainly don't want to use steam power in space... The radiators for a steam nuke plant would literally be larger and heavier than a solar array of the same power. Nuke reactors in space need very high temps with glowing red radiators. Exotic gas cycles with thermocouples or thermionic converters. Thermodynamic efficiency only ends up in the high teens if you're lucky. |
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Nuke power in space is not as great as you would think because of heat rejection. All waste heat has to be rejected via blackbody radiation at temperature to the fourth power. There is no convection in space. You certainly don't want to use steam power in space... The radiators for a steam nuke plant would literally be larger and heavier than a solar array of the same power. Nuke reactors in space need very high temps with glowing red radiators. Exotic gas cycles with thermocouples or thermionic converters. Thermodynamic efficiency only ends up in the high teens if you're lucky. View Quote http://discovermagazine.com/2019/march/nasas-powerful-plan https://www.space.com/nuclear-reactor-for-mars-outpost-2022.html |
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Originally Posted By BigPony: Reactors for on the planet itself?? Already being developed and soon to be ready pretty much and will be going. http://discovermagazine.com/2019/march/nasas-powerful-plan https://www.space.com/nuclear-reactor-for-mars-outpost-2022.html View Quote I'm just talking about space, inside of Jupiter solar is easier and cheaper. The soace-rated version of that kilopower weighs 1500kg, a 10 kW solar panel would weigh like 40kg. ...outside of the asteroid belt solar gets pretty useless though. The real niche for nuclear will be propulsion I'd love to see a nuclear salt water rocket fire in space someday. |
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Indeed!
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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: It was a good documentary. I wish it explained more how he separates the stuff in the soil that is bad for plants and humans before he mixed the shit in it though Also, I want to know what kind of tarp they have that holds back a 14 psi pressure diff on the habitat with an endless air source. View Quote and even if he didn't do that... They aren't anything like instantly deadly... so while it wouldn't be that healthy for him... it beats dying from starvation. Air is no problem as you can process that from the co2 atmosphere. Plus the place was made to support more than just 1 person so there's lots of supplies. The tarp is the 1 Magic tech of the movie and book. It's got incredible strength and radiation shielding properties. And the Wind strength is the biggest error of the book and Movie. Mars' strongest wind gusts could only just barely shift a piece of paper off a table. |
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
I’m fully aware, thank you. Just pointing out that taking a “tesla” rover to Mars doesn’t work if there is no Tesla. I’m a Musk and SpaceX fan, but Tesla is a dead man walking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By BigPony:
Originally Posted By Chairborne: That would make more sense if Tesla wouldn’t be bankrupt long before starship flies to Mars. As of May 31, 2019, the value of SpaceX has risen to $33.3 billion. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/spacex-valuation-33point3-billion-after-starlink-satellites-fundraising.html If he closed Tesla tomorrow it has no affect on Space X |
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Originally Posted By 3Trip: Indeed, though it's on a almost first come first served basis once you install anti-ICBM satellites, orbit is the ultimate high ground, once you control the orbitals, nuclear deterant becomes reliant upon vulnerable surface skimming cruise missiles and strategic bombers again. Meanwhile the side that has control of the orbitals can launch missiles, bombs, forces and more from orbit to anywhere they please. Who needs airbases in semi-hostile nations when you can drop a rod from space or land troops anywhere not too flammable in 45 minutes or less? Someone mentioned you can't hide a satellite and subs are better for stealth and that's what's needed for MAD, that's only half true. You need to either be hard to find, or hard to reach. subs are stealthy, but are easy to kill once you find them. Most Satellites are visible, but are damn hard to kill from earth, you need to use a much much more expensive rocket than the satellite you're trying to kill. Hitting a satellite in fixed orbit is hard enough to kill, nevermind one with active counter measures to overcome. Mark my words. The First Nation to have global anti-ICBM satellite coverage will become the first hyper power. As soon as SPACEX begins pumping out super heavies and starships we should take full advantage of the new tech while the rest of the world is still trying to catch up and take control the orbitals. We're already playing worlds policeman, but we are unable to do much to stop the current crop of nuclear armed bullies. If we can control the orbitals, we can make enforcing world stability easier than ever before. It won't be a big deal if Iran develops ICBMs, we'll just blow them apart before they reach apex. If China wants to put up a "weather" satellite, it'll have to pass inspection. And if they misbehave in say the South China Sea, we can wipe out their navel forces in minutes with conventional and knetic weapons. We should take the orbitals as soon as it's possible while other nations are paying thousands per kilogram to orbit while spacex's super heavy can get us there for low hundreds. View Quote |
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Our fish is pinging on -2. Somebody's fish is pinging on -1, and one of the Russian fish is pinging at zero-three-five--sir, I have an explosion at bearing three-three-nine.
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Just watched a recap of the Starship press conference. Elon said they can get a Raptor engine done in 8-10 days. Nuts!
SpaceX is so badass. I think this is finally the turning point of human space exploration. Great times to be alive |
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Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
Concepts like mining Mars to make return fuel seems sketchy at the first run. Mining in spacesuits and minimal infrastructure seems difficult to nearly impossible. I don't see them hauling a boring machine on their first trip or ever considering their size and weight, they’d need to be built there. View Quote Mike |
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Originally Posted By Mike_c130:
That is the beauty of Mars - you don't need to MINE for fuel - most of it is in the atmosphere. Methane and liquid Oxygen make a very practical fuel for launching back from Mars. The atmosphere contains everything but the hydrogen, which makes up around 5% of the total, so you bring that with you and save 95% of the mass needed. A few compressors, some chemistry and a solid power supply (small nuclear reactor is probably the best for this) and you can manufacture your fuel and oxidizer for both a return trip as well as for internal combustion engines for surface exploration. Mike View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_c130:
Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
Concepts like mining Mars to make return fuel seems sketchy at the first run. Mining in spacesuits and minimal infrastructure seems difficult to nearly impossible. I don't see them hauling a boring machine on their first trip or ever considering their size and weight, they’d need to be built there. Mike |
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I know it's probably exceptionally close held information, but I cannot wait to see the design for Starship's quarters and common areas.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Imagine 250 pounds of shit in a 100 pound sack. No matter how stylish and dressed up the fantasyland artists renderings are, space and weight are critical, and quarters will look like this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64912/7BC77130-FD97-459C-90AE-EA4865D287E3-1107874.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By JAG2955:
I know it's probably exceptionally close held information, but I cannot wait to see the design for Starship's quarters and common areas. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64912/7BC77130-FD97-459C-90AE-EA4865D287E3-1107874.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Chairborne: Imagine 250 pounds of shit in a 100 pound sack. No matter how stylish and dressed up the fantasyland artists renderings are, space and weight are critical, and quarters will look like this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64912/7BC77130-FD97-459C-90AE-EA4865D287E3-1107874.jpg View Quote |
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Please disregard the source (cnn business :/) but after the presentation Elon fired back at Jim Bridenstine from NASA over his tweet about SPaceX and the Crew Dragon. Pretty much a shots fired incident
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/09/29/elon-musk-starship-interview-orig.cnn/video/playlists/business-elon-musk/ about 55 seconds in to the piece.. |
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Starship has more pressurized volume than a 747, or the ISS, if I am to believe the internet.
For 100 people. Tight, but not even 1/4 as full as a 747. |
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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:
Thats the steerage Starship. I imagine the VIP/First Class Starships will be slightly roomier View Quote Enclosed greenhouses, fed with rivers of fermented human shit. Be sure to ferment it first or else you will be at risk of all sorts of cross contamination. Perhaps the fermentation tanks could be used as reactor heat sinks. I know there's one reactor in the US which is cooled with treated sewage water instead of river water and I seem to recall hearing that Hemp is one of, if not the most efficient plant for turning carbon dioxide into oxygen. Fermentation process also produces methane gas... In The Expanse they talk about rugged bands of cheese smugglers. Attached File Attached File And what happens when Martian conscripts get their hands on dairy products for the first time in their lives. |
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Synthetic diamond moderated molten salt reactors. Tougher than graphite and more compact. Perhaps build heat exchangers into solar panel arrays? Over time colonies could transfer perfected MSR technologies to Earth along with U233 and various... Other substances. Shipping radioactive "wastes" into space in exchange for fuel. It will be an interesting environment. Failure to comply with safety procedures will probably kill you PDQ. But there will be no regulations, at first. Also. Anyone can put a monkey in a can. Attached File The hard part is probably going to be creating an environment where the monkey doesn't lose its damn mind in the vastness of space. Yes I know there have been long term stays on Mir and ISS. But those people are astronauts who could look out a window anytime and see beautiful blue Earth spinning beneath them. What's it going to look like when people besides the creme de la creme of humanity get flung into a vacuum? |
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None of it matters if their current crew project doesnt get off the ground.
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
None of it matters if their current crew project doesnt get off the ground. View Quote From Space X point of view they really have not much left to do with Dragon. Abort rockets.. https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1172215123777216512?lang=en Abort Parachute system SpaceX Crew Dragon Pad Abort Parachute Test Successful Also, even if Crew Dragon for some reason is completely cancelled it has nothing to do with Starship, other than cost them some money short term. |
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Originally Posted By DCV_117:
That's one big bitch Click date for video
View Quote It's going to be spectacular whether it's has a perfect launch or blows up. Any idea when it's supposed to make an attempt ? |
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Originally Posted By Dapzel: I can't wait to see that thing lift off... It's going to be spectacular whether it's has a perfect launch or blows up. Any idea when it's supposed to make an attempt ? View Quote |
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What was the sci-fi novel where they made the ship for Mars out of old tanker trailers?
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Just watched this vid. Elon said there are 4 Tesla 100kwh batteries driving 4 Model 3 motors which drive hydraulic pumps for the fins. Says in MK3 version, thinks they are going to try doing away with the hydraulics and just have the fins electrically powered by the motors.
A conversation with Elon Musk about Starship |
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