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The long term future is a mash up of Idiocracy and 1984. "Ow, my balls" meets "He loved Big Brother". The boot on your face will likely be a big red clown shoe, but it'll be there regardless. - pmacb
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Originally Posted By JPN: ULA has to worry about patents and claims of industrial espionage. Industrial espionage is just another part of business in China. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By JPN: That's their standard practice. Be nice if ULA would do that ULA has to worry about patents and claims of industrial espionage. Industrial espionage is just another part of business in China. I thought I had read that SpaceX didn't patent most things? |
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Originally Posted By David0858: I thought I had read that SpaceX didn't patent most things? View Quote Largely no elon has said on a couple of tours with tim dodd if they wanna try and copy that be my guest. Most of the things they are working on with starship they are already a couple versions ahead in the drawing room if not the production floor. |
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Originally Posted By Obo2: Largely no elon has said on a couple of tours with tim dodd if they wanna try and copy that be my guest. Most of the things they are working on with starship they are already a couple versions ahead in the drawing room if not the production floor. View Quote I think they were walking through the raptor fab facility and Tim asked if he could film it. He basically said good luck trying to copy it lol |
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Remorse is for the dead
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Is capture autonomous? Hear me out.
When the time comes, fly a starship over there with a welcome present and let their system recognize and catch it. |
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mene mene tekel upharsin
That others may think |
Tangentially related, it looks like Ariane 6 has had a successful first launch.
It will be amusing to see how it competes with Starship in the launch market. |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Yeah, it looks great. Everything nominal. ... but of course, completely outdated at this point. View Quote Outdated compared to Falcon. Starship is going to be like a BC-304 from Stargate by comparison. Attached File |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
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View Quote I've said this ad nauseam, but my brain just can't comprehend the scale of these effing things. And if they catch it? OMG. |
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The long term future is a mash up of Idiocracy and 1984. "Ow, my balls" meets "He loved Big Brother". The boot on your face will likely be a big red clown shoe, but it'll be there regardless. - pmacb
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSEYvLDWoAAv6Ta?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote That might just become my new desktop background |
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The road to Hell is paved with presidential candidates.
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A Grendel's Love is different from a 5.56's Love
SC, USA
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSEYvLDWoAAv6Ta?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote What is it? |
Leave me alone. I’m a libertarian. CW vet x7, give away a kidney to a loved one if they need it.
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSEYvLDWoAAv6Ta?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote What are we lookin at there? |
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Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." |
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Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY. |
Kind of what I would expect when the richest person on the planet designs a meat tenderizer for his secret villain base.
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Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. Thanks, My brain was totally making the negative space positive. Thought it might be some new reptile inspired overlapping scale heatshield |
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Originally Posted By Obo2: Thanks, My brain was totally making the negative space positive. Thought it might be some new reptile inspired overlapping scale heatshield View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. Thanks, My brain was totally making the negative space positive. Thought it might be some new reptile inspired overlapping scale heatshield Took a solid 30 seconds to get my brain to correct that. |
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Shit like this is why you don't give typewriters to monkeys. - L_JE
Colonialism, bringing ethnic diversity to a continent near you. - My Father Me being brief, this is like seeing a comet - Geralt55 |
Originally Posted By JPN: I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." I had to stare at it for several moments before my brain accepted it. |
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For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
Thomas Jefferson "He didnt punch anybody. He punched an idea." DrFrige |
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If you aren't familiar with the grammar of the Times front page layout here it is: The top right story is the lead story, the top left story is the sub-lead everything else above the fold is the important news of the day. Today the New York Times says the second most important story is mounting pressure from senior congressional Dems to push Biden out of the race. The 3rd most important story is a shocking French election results upending all expectations. The MOST important story is Elon Musk's successful space launch destroying nine bird nests.
What’s worse, this story is super misleading! In one instance it claims, “three years of data collected by the Coastal Bend group near the SpaceX site indicated a 54 percent decline in the threatened piping plover population through 2021.” This is false. The frequently cited study conducted by Newstead and Hill (2021) is outdated and unreliable for describing potential piping plover population trends over time. The 2021 study did not consistently perform field visits during the same time of year. In some years, surveys included periods when piping plovers were actively migrating and in other years surveys only included months when winter residents were likely to be present. They also did not always check both kinds of habitat that are present during each survey. Point being, the piping plover population being sampled was inconsistent across years. This is important because the occurrence of piping plovers at any given location at any given time is highly variable. Presence or absence may be due to a wide variety of factors unrelated to changes to the population size; birds may simply be someplace else. And, the more times they looked for piping plovers in a year, the higher their population estimate was. It's also important to understand piping plovers do not nest in Texas. With very few exceptions, piping plovers observed in Texas are either migrating to or from wintering areas further south along the Mexico Gulf Coast or in the Caribbean, or reside in the vicinity over winter. Piping plovers tend to return to the same wintering areas year after year, even when conditions at those wintering areas change due to extreme weather or human-caused disturbance. Now here’s the kicker: In response to questions about the reliability of their study, Newstead and Hill reanalyzed their data and published a follow-up report (2022) which found no significant change in population abundance of piping plovers at Boca Chica over time. A decreasing trend in abundance over the first three years of the study was balanced by an increase in the final year of the study (once data from additional survey visits was added to the analysis). For our part, we have conducted nine years of monitoring using a protocol developed with US Fish and Wildlife Services, and for the past two years we have ensured consistent sampling throughout the year by surveying monthly. The findings show little to no strong evidence of trends, either increasing or decreasing, for any of the target species, including piping plovers.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
If you aren't familiar with the grammar of the Times front page layout here it is: The top right story is the lead story, the top left story is the sub-lead everything else above the fold is the important news of the day. Today the New York Times says the second most important story is mounting pressure from senior congressional Dems to push Biden out of the race. The 3rd most important story is a shocking French election results upending all expectations. The MOST important story is Elon Musk's successful space launch destroying nine bird nests. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR_XWl_aMAQB7J2?format=jpg&name=360x360
What’s worse, this story is super misleading! In one instance it claims, “three years of data collected by the Coastal Bend group near the SpaceX site indicated a 54 percent decline in the threatened piping plover population through 2021.” This is false. The frequently cited study conducted by Newstead and Hill (2021) is outdated and unreliable for describing potential piping plover population trends over time. The 2021 study did not consistently perform field visits during the same time of year. In some years, surveys included periods when piping plovers were actively migrating and in other years surveys only included months when winter residents were likely to be present. They also did not always check both kinds of habitat that are present during each survey. Point being, the piping plover population being sampled was inconsistent across years. This is important because the occurrence of piping plovers at any given location at any given time is highly variable. Presence or absence may be due to a wide variety of factors unrelated to changes to the population size; birds may simply be someplace else. And, the more times they looked for piping plovers in a year, the higher their population estimate was. It's also important to understand piping plovers do not nest in Texas. With very few exceptions, piping plovers observed in Texas are either migrating to or from wintering areas further south along the Mexico Gulf Coast or in the Caribbean, or reside in the vicinity over winter. Piping plovers tend to return to the same wintering areas year after year, even when conditions at those wintering areas change due to extreme weather or human-caused disturbance. Now here’s the kicker: In response to questions about the reliability of their study, Newstead and Hill reanalyzed their data and published a follow-up report (2022) which found no significant change in population abundance of piping plovers at Boca Chica over time. A decreasing trend in abundance over the first three years of the study was balanced by an increase in the final year of the study (once data from additional survey visits was added to the analysis). For our part, we have conducted nine years of monitoring using a protocol developed with US Fish and Wildlife Services, and for the past two years we have ensured consistent sampling throughout the year by surveying monthly. The findings show little to no strong evidence of trends, either increasing or decreasing, for any of the target species, including piping plovers.
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Is there anything these liberal faggots won’t try to ruin?
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Originally Posted By KonamiCode: Is there anything these liberal faggots won’t try to ruin? View Quote Just one thing. The rapacious excesses of the financial sector. But why should they stop? They have been swinging their political power around like a hyperviolent child with a sack of doorknobs for decades now and so far the only resistance they have encountered is a few of them got shot in Wisconsin and some lawsuits here and there. |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: Tangentially related, it looks like Ariane 6 has had a successful first launch. It will be amusing to see how it competes with Starship in the launch market. View Quote From what I've read, the launch and cubesat deployment was successful, but the APU that's required for relights shutdown unexpectedly and now the upper stage and its data gathering return vehicles (they weren't going to retrieve them) are stranded in orbit. Not to completely crap on Arianespace because they nailed the JWST launch. They hit the center of the target from 1.5 million kilometers away. |
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dfwlabrescue.org
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Originally Posted By sheltot: From what I've read, the launch and cubesat deployment was successful, but the APU that's required for relights shutdown unexpectedly and now the upper stage and its data gathering return vehicles (they weren't going to retrieve them) are stranded in orbit. Not to completely crap on Arianespace because they nailed the JWST launch. They hit the center of the target from 1.5 million kilometers away. View Quote First launch of a new vehicle usually has issues and yes, they did an excellent job with JWST. I remember a lot of people in GD and the wider internet who were being quite vocal in their expectation that the rocket would go boom or there would be some other fuck up that would destroy or render useless one of the most expensive scientific instruments ever created. |
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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Originally Posted By JPN: I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." Yep. I had to let my eyes go out of focus. You're looking at it from underneath, the blue is the sky. That photo is cool as hell! |
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Originally Posted By fox2008: If nothing else it should make for some entertaining videos View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fox2008: Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR940uEbwAA9v35?format=jpg&name=large If nothing else it should make for some entertaining videos Such prang! So kaboom! |
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Yep. I had to let my eyes go out of focus. You're looking at it from underneath, the blue is the sky. That photo is cool as hell! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." Yep. I had to let my eyes go out of focus. You're looking at it from underneath, the blue is the sky. That photo is cool as hell! Now you really screwed me up! The blue is the sky???? |
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Proud Member of Team Ranstad
“Anytime we can shoot bullets that explode, versus bullets that don’t explode, that’s a good thing.” |
Originally Posted By oregonroofer: Now you really screwed me up! The blue is the sky???? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By oregonroofer: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By downstate: Originally Posted By Obo2: What are we lookin at there? Grid fin. I looked at it a couple times and couldn't figure it out. Saw your post and looked again, stared at it for a few seconds, then my brain finally corrected for the optical delusion, and "whoa, it is a grid fin." Yep. I had to let my eyes go out of focus. You're looking at it from underneath, the blue is the sky. That photo is cool as hell! Now you really screwed me up! The blue is the sky???? My mind wouldn’t process it properly until I zoomed in on one square. |
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Proud Member of Team Ranstad
“Anytime we can shoot bullets that explode, versus bullets that don’t explode, that’s a good thing.” |
Originally Posted By oregonroofer: OK OK OK! Now I see it! The white is the horizontal frame above. My wife saw it immediately but then again, her IQ is miles above mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By oregonroofer: Originally Posted By oregonroofer: Now you really screwed me up! The blue is the sky???? OK OK OK! Now I see it! The white is the horizontal frame above. My wife saw it immediately but then again, her IQ is miles above mine. Holy CRAP that messed me up lol. I was staring at it trying to make the "blue = sky" make sense and the suddenly it just popped and I could see it. What a crazy picture! |
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" Laziness is an essential part of all walks of engineering."
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The long term future is a mash up of Idiocracy and 1984. "Ow, my balls" meets "He loved Big Brother". The boot on your face will likely be a big red clown shoe, but it'll be there regardless. - pmacb
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Even the grid fins have reality warping powers!
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It’s… probably not as bad as you think it is.
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Just FYI
They've been doing some sort of Cryo testing of the booster at the OLP today. |
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"Never attribute to malice that which can be ascribed to sheer stupidity." LTC (CENTCOM)
"Round is a shape, right? I have the body of a god...Just happens to be Buddah! Az_Redneck |
~2 launches a month!
https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: They did a spin prime test today View Quote That usually means launch is only a couple of weeks away. |
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"Freedom isn't free. It costs a hefty fuckin' fee. And if we don't toss in our buck 'o five, who will?"
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSUeKdIWcAANv-n?format=jpg&name=medium View Quote Nice, launching on the anniversary of Apollo 11's launch would definitely be on brand. |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Last weeks update showed they had not finished the tile replacement. I suspect they will do that before they do a full stack test.
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How in the hell did they build the starfactory that fast?
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