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Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:20:50 PM EST
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So let me get this straight.

You think Hawking is a nutcase because he is suggesting that humans may not survive on Earth for another 100 years, as such we should push to go out and colonize space.

And you counter with advocating for Governments to use taxes to influence people's behavior in a manner that governments deem acceptable?

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There are what, 4 billion 7.5 billion people on the planet right now?  Why do we need to cut that down to 1 billion to save mother earth when we are doing just fine?  What kind of leftist crack is OP smoking?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:21:52 PM EST
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By that logic, any prediction 100 years out is pointless.
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The joke is he will be dead by then. Easy to say XYZ will happen in 100 years when you won't be around to answer for it, or the trouble you put everyone through that believes in you.
By that logic, any prediction 100 years out is pointless.
In instances that have anything to do with mankind's behavior that is true.

Remember WW-1.....It was supposed to be the "The War To End All Wars" right?

Nope, sorry, did not work out that way.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:22:54 PM EST
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Surely it must be easier, and cheaper, to fix the Earth and keep humans here. It cannot possibly be cheaper to send X amount of us to another planet.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:28:42 PM EST
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Surely it must be easier, and cheaper, to fix the Earth and keep humans here. It cannot possibly be cheaper to send X amount of us to another planet.
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it is easier......

it requires mass genocide of certain continents.....the whole georgia guidestones thing
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:34:32 PM EST
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I don't know about 100 years, but there's too many monkeys fucking this football.

I don't know how people still fail to grasp that with soil and aquifer depletion rates being what they are in the US when the US has five times as much arable land per capita as the global average and you have to book a year in advance to get a decent place to stay at a national park.

Every half way desirable place in the world is terribly crowded.

This sort of situation tends to come to an end in an unpleasant way.

He may be thinking we have a limited window in which we'll have the surplus production to make a colonization effort, I think he'd be wrong because the resources are available in this system.

We probably have 100 years to get the infrastructure in place to begin extracting them, that I would buy.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:34:57 PM EST
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I was excited to see him speak at SMU about 10 something years ago.  They roll him out and he goes on to talk about the SMU cheerleaders and some other inane bullshit for an hour.  I don't think he's in there.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:35:59 PM EST
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Typical egghead.

Smart as fuck. And a total dumbshit
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:36:28 PM EST
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lol. I like how you call him ridiculous but then immediately go to bat with wiping out 6.5+ billion people in the name of sustainability. Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. tremble at the terror that lives in your mind.
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Anyone who thinks there are too many people on this planet should do it a favor and kill themselves immediately. It would be the moral and proper thing to do.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:38:19 PM EST
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Dear Mr. Hawking,

Shut up, you fucking nitwit.
You are the dumbest smart person I have ever seen.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:38:44 PM EST
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Let's find TWO new planets to  live on.


One we can name Galt's Planet


The other we can name Planet Marx



We will choose and send colonists accordingly
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It will be Planet Galt's fault that Planet Marx is a slum.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:43:10 PM EST
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My entire life has been milestones of calamitous futurists's deadlines coming and going without any of their BS coming to fruition.

I think he's in a bubble where people around him idolize and support him so much that he feels like a sage rather than a scientist. Now he's a social commenter, which is useless.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:45:14 PM EST
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I don't know about 100 years, but there's too many monkeys fucking this football.

I don't know how people still fail to grasp that with soil and aquifer depletion rates being what they are in the US when the US has five times as much arable land per capita as the global average and you have to book a year in advance to get a decent place to stay at a national park.

Every half way desirable place in the world is terribly crowded.

This sort of situation tends to come to an end in an unpleasant way.

He may be thinking we have a limited window in which we'll have the surplus production to make a colonization effort, I think he'd be wrong because the resources are available in this system.

We probably have 100 years to get the infrastructure in place to begin extracting them, that I would buy.
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Let's say I buy into the insanity you're preaching.

My first thought.....Too bad there isn't any way to desalinize the sea water......well I guess there is no other answer than to spend a few hundred trillion dollars building spaceships for the ruling class.

Second thought.....Do you think you or any of your family will be allowed to ride said spaceships? Are you a politician?

Third thought.....How did the heavens gate theory not suck you in ?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:45:37 PM EST
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Stephen's handlers are  trying to keep him  relevant and sell his next book/tv show.    
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:46:33 PM EST
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Stephen's handlers are  trying to keep him  relevant and sell his next book/tv show.    
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His plan must be to fleece the idiotic left of the world
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:48:20 PM EST
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Is that wheeled drooling fucktard still relevant? Maybe him and Gabby Giffords can go to Baskin Robbins together and see who spills the most.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 3:59:56 PM EST
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While I don't necessarily believe his time scale or ecological blather is correct, he's not wrong.

The next Dinosaur Killer Rock From Space is on the way, we don't know when, but it IS coming.

Be a good idea to have a sustainable population other than on Earth, don't you think?
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Why?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:00:22 PM EST
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I don't know about 100 years, but there's too many monkeys fucking this football.

I don't know how people still fail to grasp that with soil and aquifer depletion rates being what they are in the US when the US has five times as much arable land per capita as the global average and you have to book a year in advance to get a decent place to stay at a national park.

Every half way desirable place in the world is terribly crowded.

This sort of situation tends to come to an end in an unpleasant way.

He may be thinking we have a limited window in which we'll have the surplus production to make a colonization effort, I think he'd be wrong because the resources are available in this system.

We probably have 100 years to get the infrastructure in place to begin extracting them, that I would buy.
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You went from trying to figure out how to magnetically shield Mars from solar radiation, with station keeping based on a combination of high isp thrusters and varying the strength of the magnetic flux for steering and countering solar radiation pressure.

To this?

What happened man?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:02:58 PM EST
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That fucker has powerscootered over the shark.
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Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:04:18 PM EST
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That fucker has powerscootered over the shark.
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Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:04:28 PM EST
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Even if we do kill it off in 100 years, I'll be dead. What do I care?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:05:13 PM EST
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Ridiculous.  I feel like this guy is just seeking attention now with these prophetic predictions.  The key to the continuation of humanity doesn't lie in some pipe dream about colonizing space.  It lies in learning to live SUSTAINABLY on our own world.  The key to such a thing is a gradual reduction in the human population to below 1 billion individuals. Free contraception for all, and payments for those who abstain from having children would be critical to such a goal.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/stephen-hawking-humans-have-100-years-to-find-a-new-planet/ar-BBAJkNC?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
It’s no secret that physicist Stephen Hawking thinks humans are running out of time on planet Earth.

In a new BBC documentary, Hawking will test his theory that humankind must colonize another planet or perish in the next 100 years. The documentary Stephen Hawking: Expedition New Earth, will air this summer as part of BBC’s Tomorrow’s World season and will showcase that Hawking's aspiration "isn’t as fantastical as it sounds," according to BBC.

For years, Hawking has warned that humankind faces a slew of threats ranging from climate change to destruction from nuclear war and genetically engineered viruses.

While things look bleak, there is some hope, according to Hawking. Humans must set their sights on another planet or perish on Earth.

“We must also continue to go into space for the future of humanity,” Hawking said during a 2016 speech at Britain’s Oxford University Union.

In the past, Hawking has suggested that humankind might not survive "another 1000 years without escaping beyond our fragile planet.” The BBC documentary hints at an adjusted timeframe for colonization, which many may see in their lifetime.
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Sounds great, until the 10 mile wide asteroid hits, or the cosmic ray burst destroys us.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:06:00 PM EST
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OP wants to reduce the population to < 1B? How you gonna do that?

You don't believe that Population Bomb crap do you?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:06:38 PM EST
[#23]
It's time for Stephen Hawking to leave the planet
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:07:08 PM EST
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He is correct.

In 100 years the world will be ruled by radical islam and socialism if birth rates stay the course.

Us libertarians, conservatives and capitalists have gotta get outta this place (or find a planet to send all jihadis and commies to)
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:08:06 PM EST
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Dinosaurs went extinct because they didn't have a space program
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Just a few hundred million years later
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:08:33 PM EST
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If y'all were smart, y'all would listen to Hawking's words. Declare to Conservatives and Libertarians everywhere to leave the earth and to inhabit space colonies/cities on the moon and mars. Leave the Earth to wither away with the Liberals. Not wanted here anyway and the country is going to change so much within the next 10-20 years.  Start all over again in space, find freedom, declare independence from the Earth. Otherwise it's going to be the liberals dropping the space colonies and Axis on y'all instead.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:09:53 PM EST
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Im truly suprised that guy is still alive
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What i want to know is, when he dies, will his voice fade out lime Hal9000?
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:11:05 PM EST
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Ridiculous.  I feel like this guy is just seeking attention now with these prophetic predictions.  The key to the continuation of humanity doesn't lie in some pipe dream about colonizing space.  It lies in learning to live SUSTAINABLY on our own world.  The key to such a thing is a gradual reduction in the human population to below 1 billion individuals.  Free contraception for all, and payments for those who abstain from having children would be critical to such a goal.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/stephen-hawking-humans-have-100-years-to-find-a-new-planet/ar-BBAJkNC?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
It’s no secret that physicist Stephen Hawking thinks humans are running out of time on planet Earth.

In a new BBC documentary, Hawking will test his theory that humankind must colonize another planet or perish in the next 100 years. The documentary Stephen Hawking: Expedition New Earth, will air this summer as part of BBC’s Tomorrow’s World season and will showcase that Hawking's aspiration "isn’t as fantastical as it sounds," according to BBC.

For years, Hawking has warned that humankind faces a slew of threats ranging from climate change to destruction from nuclear war and genetically engineered viruses.

While things look bleak, there is some hope, according to Hawking. Humans must set their sights on another planet or perish on Earth.

“We must also continue to go into space for the future of humanity,” Hawking said during a 2016 speech at Britain’s Oxford University Union.

In the past, Hawking has suggested that humankind might not survive "another 1000 years without escaping beyond our fragile planet.” The BBC documentary hints at an adjusted timeframe for colonization, which many may see in their lifetime.
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I'm sure he'd be totally happy on a planet with zero gravity.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:11:56 PM EST
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Don't agree on his time table unless he know the earth will end in 100 years
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:11:57 PM EST
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he's an idiot, but because he talks with a speak-n-spell people listen to him.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:13:05 PM EST
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Humanity is in great shape, because many have already found Uranus.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:14:25 PM EST
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If we have the ability to move masses of people and terraform another planet we have the ability to delfect a big rock coming towards us.

How about we take care of this one and kill all the nuts who want genocide on a world scale.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:15:47 PM EST
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I wish that retard would STFU already.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:16:01 PM EST
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he's an idiot, but because he talks with a speak-n-spell people listen to him.
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I don't take anyone serious who sounds like Shockwave from Transformers.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:16:47 PM EST
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Planets are like guns....and pens.

Two is one, and one is none.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:17:05 PM EST
[#36]
Not my problem
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:18:17 PM EST
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Right...just like in 1970 when they said we had no more natural resources.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:19:21 PM EST
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In a sense, I think he is right.  But I don't necessarily agree on the cause or time table.
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Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:19:41 PM EST
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Math motherfuckers, it's math

I'm not agreeing with his 100 years, we could probably plow every bit of arable land and support 20 billion humans living in Judge Dread style super cities, but that isn't a place I want my grandchildren to live.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:20:42 PM EST
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You went from trying to figure out how to magnetically shield Mars from solar radiation, with station keeping based on a combination of high isp thrusters and varying the strength of the magnetic flux for steering and countering solar radiation pressure.

To this?

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Look, I just want the idiots out of my way on the freeway OK?

Population density and liberty are inversely correlated, go with that if you like it better.

I don't like the tradeoffs we've already made, for my own personal life experience and less for the species on a longer timescale.

People act like the only thing that matters is their own lifetime, I have kids, I'm not expecting a rapture, I want my great, great, grandchildren to know what it's like to kill an elk (or a salmon, or...), cook it on a wood fire, and eat it without getting arrested.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:22:49 PM EST
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Human_population_growth_from_1800_to_2000.png

Math motherfuckers, it's math

I'm not agreeing with his 100 years, we could probably plow every bit of arable land and support 20 billion humans living in Judge Dread style super cities, but that isn't a place I want my grandchildren to live.
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You people act like nature won't take a self correcting course like the Spanish Flu of Plague.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:23:43 PM EST
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this is just the extension of global warming bullshit,

emergency emergency
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:27:41 PM EST
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He is correct.

In 100 years the world will be ruled by radical islam and socialism if birth rates stay the course.

Us libertarians, conservatives and capitalists have gotta get outta this place (or find a planet to send all jihadis and commies to)
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I think it will be much cheaper and efficient to just send them to hell
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:31:20 PM EST
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You people act like nature won't take a self correcting course like the Spanish Flu of Plague.
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I finally made it in to a "you people" group.  Awesome.

Why don't you look at this graph and see how fast human population bounced back from the BP.  WWI and the Spanish flu don't even have a noticeable effect.  The number one control of human population, in all of history, has been our ability to produce food (they don't have the green revolution on there, but we would have probably topped off at about 4 billion before that) That is "nature" taking care of things, as you say. And eventually it will.

Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:33:14 PM EST
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I say strap a rocket to his retarded ass and let him go explore the galaxy.

Get back to me when his computer says he found something meaningful.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:33:29 PM EST
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I finally made it in to a "you people" group.  Awesome.

Why don't you look at this graph and see how fast human population bounced back from the BP.  WWI and the Spanish flu don't even have a noticeable effect.  The number one control of human population, in all of history, has been our ability to produce food (they don't have the green revolution on there, but we would have probably topped off at about 4 billion before that) That is "nature" taking care of things, as you say. And eventually it will.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iqLaxB_LPVA/UYcbDmGGyDI/AAAAAAAAAK4/OIqvcKNDu5w/s640/Human+Population+Growth+Graph.tiff
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Drought and famine are a thing. Hey man, the world's heating up donchaknow
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:39:35 PM EST
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That fucker has powerscootered over the shark.
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 HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:40:49 PM EST
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You know, the way thinks seems to be these days it might be better if we did stay confined to Earth. We seem to be a rather screwed up lot recently and it would be a shame to infect the rest of the Cosmos with us.

We are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Omg we are space herpes!
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:42:28 PM EST
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Ridiculous.  I feel like this guy is just seeking attention now with these prophetic predictions.
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Well, how else is he going to keep up with Bill Nye and Neil DeGrasse Tyson?

Hawking can't pretend to jam to the beat of a woman singing about her vagina, so he's got to find something different.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 4:44:46 PM EST
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The current hockey stick the climate changers love to push shows an average of about 100 PPM increase over 100 years or so. 

Assuming that rate of increase holds steady we have a good 800-1000 years before we need to start looking at unassing earth (Or otherwise implementing terraforming). At that point we'd still have a good few centuries before we *needed* to take actions, so even 800-1000 years is a bit conservative. Gain, assuming the rate of increase stays steady.

100 years? I'm a bit skeptical of that.
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