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Link Posted: 10/31/2023 5:54:52 PM EDT
[#1]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12693441/fauci-nih-infected-bats-camp-david-coronavirus.html

REVEALED: Anthony Fauci-run lab in MONTANA experimented with coronavirus strain shipped in from Wuhan a year BEFORE Covid pandemic began

The NIH infected 12 bats with a SARS-like coronavirus in 2018

The virus was shipped from Wuhan to an NIH lab in Montana

READ MORE: Fauci warns he has nightmares about 'next inevitable pandemic'
Link Posted: 11/1/2023 10:14:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha:
Pfizer games with numbers . Looks like Pfraud ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9zWZrQx0JA
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Youtube censors strike again!
Video can be seen on Dr McMillan's substack at:
https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/censored-on-youtube-were-pfizer-mrna?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Link Posted: 11/2/2023 6:41:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By darkd0r:

Youtube censors strike again!
Video can be seen on Dr McMillan's substack at:
https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/censored-on-youtube-were-pfizer-mrna?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
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Originally Posted By darkd0r:
Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha:
Pfizer games with numbers . Looks like Pfraud ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9zWZrQx0JA

Youtube censors strike again!
Video can be seen on Dr McMillan's substack at:
https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/censored-on-youtube-were-pfizer-mrna?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Ah, the sweet freedom of free flowing information.
Link Posted: 11/2/2023 9:02:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Fantomas alerted me to this article from Germany

Germany is flat Flu, Corona, cough, RSV – worst wave of illness in 5 years

By: FERDINAND HEIMBACH
November 2, 2023 - 8:23 a.m

It feels like everyone is sick all the time this year. Cough, runny nose, flu or corona – few are spared.

But is it really just a feeling? No, at least not according to the figures from the Robert Koch Institute. The number of cases of respiratory diseases is at a very high level this year.

But why is that? Are our immune systems weakened by the corona pandemic ? Or do we simply pay closer attention to symptoms of illness?

Alarming: The number of cases for this time of year is currently higher than it has been since 2011. At that time, 6,473 cases per 100,000 German citizens were reported in the 43rd calendar week. According to the current RKI figures (week 42), this year there are already 7,944 - and the trend is rising.

For comparison: During the peak phases of the pandemic, the incidence in the same period was 3,428 in 2020, 6,088 (2021) and 6,303 (2022).

One of the reasons why the numbers are now significantly higher: the mask requirement has been completely abolished in public spaces. The likelihood of becoming infected in everyday life has therefore increased significantly.

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Yeah, that must be it.    

76% of Germans have had two shots of Safe and Effective, and 63% with three.



Link Posted: 11/2/2023 9:36:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RSG:
Fantomas alerted me to this article from Germany

Germany is flat Flu, Corona, cough, RSV   worst wave of illness in 5 years

By: FERDINAND HEIMBACH
November 2, 2023 - 8:23 a.m

It feels like everyone is sick all the time this year. Cough, runny nose, flu or corona   few are spared.

But is it really just a feeling? No, at least not according to the figures from the Robert Koch Institute. The number of cases of respiratory diseases is at a very high level this year.

But why is that? Are our immune systems weakened by the corona pandemic ? Or do we simply pay closer attention to symptoms of illness?

Alarming: The number of cases for this time of year is currently higher than it has been since 2011. At that time, 6,473 cases per 100,000 German citizens were reported in the 43rd calendar week. According to the current RKI figures (week 42), this year there are already 7,944 - and the trend is rising.

For comparison: During the peak phases of the pandemic, the incidence in the same period was 3,428 in 2020, 6,088 (2021) and 6,303 (2022).

One of the reasons why the numbers are now significantly higher: the mask requirement has been completely abolished in public spaces. The likelihood of becoming infected in everyday life has therefore increased significantly.

...


Yeah, that must be it.    

76% of Germans have had two shots of Safe and Effective, and 63% with three.



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A combination of vax damaged immune systems and turd world imports bringing disease with them.
Link Posted: 11/2/2023 10:31:56 AM EDT
[#6]
Aged well






Link Posted: 11/2/2023 12:53:40 PM EDT
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Pfizer games with numbers . Looks like Pfraud ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9zWZrQx0JA
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Already gone.
Link Posted: 11/2/2023 2:58:19 PM EDT
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See post #2 this page for link.
Link Posted: 11/3/2023 10:37:00 AM EDT
[#9]




Spoiler alert...they already did
Link Posted: 11/3/2023 1:47:51 PM EDT
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Spoiler alert...they already did
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Uhh, the goal was to CURE not CAUSE.  buffoons
Link Posted: 11/4/2023 3:52:48 PM EDT
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Uhh, the goal was to CURE not CAUSE.  buffoons
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Spoiler alert...they already did

Uhh, the goal was to CURE not CAUSE.  buffoons

Angus Dalgleish has been treating cancer for a long time . This little video is about as simple as it gets and it tells you why the mrna doesn't work and why more than a few will get cancer :
How T-Cells help fight Covid-19
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 9:23:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2023 1:04:53 AM EDT
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https://youtu.be/C2qE_ThuFBo?si=ugkUrYoPCtcExQcs

Nice that smart people are actually  discussing it
The Illusion of Consensus: Rav Arora on the DarkHorse Podcast
Link Posted: 11/6/2023 6:53:18 PM EDT
[#14]
When yesteryears memes become today's headlines

Link Posted: 11/6/2023 8:02:53 PM EDT
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When yesteryears memes become today's headlines

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The purebloods of GD will rejoice
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 9:03:36 AM EDT
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Billions Of Copies Of Residual DNA In A Single Dose Of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine: Preprint

A new preprint study up for peer review finds billions of residual DNA fragments in the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine vials.

The lead author of the study, molecular virologist David Speicher, who has a doctorate in virology, told The Epoch Times that their study is "the largest study" on residual DNA in COVID-19 vaccines to date.

"In our study, we measured DNA copies of spike, ori (origin of replication), and SV40 enhancer genes," he told The Epoch Times. "The loads of SV40 enhancer-promoter, ori, and virus spike in Pfizer are up to 186 billion copies per dose."

The spike he refers to is the DNA sequence of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which can be transcribed to spike mRNA to be used in the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines to be translated to spike protein. The other two DNAs—SV40 enhancer genes and ori—help facilitate the replication of spike DNA.

However, the final mRNA vaccines should only include RNA and not residual DNA instructions for spike production.

The researchers sequenced the gene material in 27 mRNA vaccine vials from 12 different lots. Nineteen vials were from Moderna, and eight were from Pfizer.

"Further work is needed to investigate if anything in these vaccines is actually integrating into the human genome and what effect that may have," the lead author wrote.

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Link Posted: 11/9/2023 8:09:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2023 9:04:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2023 10:42:47 AM EDT
[#19]
“People aren’t thinking about us”: How new ban on COVID-19 vaccine mandates impacts medically-vulnerable Texans

The ban applies to all private businesses, including health care facilities like hospitals, which can jeopardize the health of those with compromised immune systems or other underlying conditions.

Alice Barton looks through a rack of homemade masks in her South Austin home on Nov. 10, 2023. A bill signed on Friday, which bans vaccine requirements on all private businesses, could risk the health of groups like organ transplant recipients, cancer patients and those with underlying conditions as common as severe asthma Credit: Julius Shieh/The Texas Tribune
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A sweeping ban on COVID-19 vaccine requirements for all private businesses, including hospitals, is the latest blow to medically vulnerable Texans who rely on others’ immunization to shield themselves from highly transmissible viruses.

Tamer coronavirus variants and a soft vaccine booster rollout have contributed to a lessened sense of urgency around the virus. But the new measure, which Gov. Greg Abbott signed into law on Friday, could risk the health of groups like organ transplant recipients, cancer patients and those with underlying conditions as common as severe asthma.

These risks led to some bipartisan dissent during original Senate discussions of the bill, especially from state Sens. Borris Miles, D-Houston and Kelly Hancock, R-Fort Worth, who both take immunosuppressants for their respective kidney transplants.

“I live a pretty normal life and am not fearful, but it does make you think about others,” Hancock said. “There's just a balance we have to keep in mind — just try to always think of others and the positions they may be in.”

For one, vaccines are less effective in some of these patients because their conditions prevent their bodies from manufacturing the white blood cells that can recognize and fight off viruses. But even with protection, the virus can exacerbate underlying conditions and lead to long-term symptoms of the virus, known as long COVID.

Scientists and health experts agree that the vaccine is safe and effective for most people with functioning immune systems, in reducing both transmission and severity of the virus.

“Everybody’s going to be different, so it's not automatic that a compromised individual will end up in the hospital or in the ICU,” said Dr. Jimmy Widmer, an internal medicine specialist. “But what we do know throughout the past three and a half years of COVID, is that time and time again, study after study has shown that those who are immunocompromised are hospitalized at a higher rate.”

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Link Posted: 11/14/2023 10:49:28 AM EDT
[#20]


Three years ago today, we were able to share with the world the joyous news that our #COVID19 vaccine was highly effective in preventing disease. It was one of the best moments of my career. We could not have reached this point without the extraordinary efforts of our talented and dedicated @Pfizer colleagues and @BioNTech_Group partners. This photo was taken moments after we received the good news from our R&D team, and you can see the smiles through our masks.

As Aristotle said, “Our problem is not that we aim too high, and we miss. Our problem is that we aim too low and hit.” We reached one moonshot with our #COVID19 vaccine, and now we want to reach more—because our patients are counting on us.






Link Posted: 11/14/2023 10:57:19 AM EDT
[#21]


https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-11-14/covid-rebound-occurs-in-1-in-5-people-taking-paxlovid

The study runs counter to clinical trials that found only 1% to 2% of patients taking Paxlovid experienced virologic rebound, the researchers noted.

...

About 21% of patients who took Paxlovid experienced virologic rebound, compared with 2% of those not prescribed the drug, researchers found.

Those with a rebound also shed virus longer, an average of 14 days compared to fewer than five days in those who didn’t rebound. That made them potentially contagious for much longer, researchers said.

Link Posted: 11/14/2023 5:50:31 PM EDT
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https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-11-14/covid-rebound-occurs-in-1-in-5-people-taking-paxlovid

The study runs counter to clinical trials that found only 1% to 2% of patients taking Paxlovid experienced virologic rebound, the researchers noted.

...

About 21% of patients who took Paxlovid experienced virologic rebound, compared with 2% of those not prescribed the drug, researchers found.

Those with a rebound also shed virus longer, an average of 14 days compared to fewer than five days in those who didn’t rebound. That made them potentially contagious for much longer, researchers said.

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You combine that with the Cleveland Clinic study and you get maximum mutation and maximum spread .
Link Posted: 11/15/2023 10:08:30 AM EDT
[#23]
Vid at link

Link Posted: 11/15/2023 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/16/2023 10:45:19 AM EDT
[#25]
I work for an ROTC program and I can tell you it affected recruiting on all fronts.  They will never admit it, but it did.  I lost at least 5 good prospects over it.  I ended up getting one back when the shot requirement went away but not the others.
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 9:39:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/17/2023 9:42:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/19/2023 6:55:21 AM EDT
[#28]
At this point, is it better for discharged military to just leave the records as they are if it keeps them from getting called back up when there is war?

Blessing in disguise?

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:05:10 AM EDT
[#29]
Not sure where else to put this.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:57:25 PM EDT
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If you think ivermectin works that is an "incorrect" view say the pollsters.

"Without elaborating, the survey's authors said that the 26 percent "incorrectly" said that ivermectin is effective, while it has pointed to the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) statements saying the agency has not authorized or approved the drug for preventing or treating COVID-19, and it has claimed that data shows it isn't effective against the virus."


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"The survey also found that respondents increasingly believe that the COVID-19 shot isn't safe, increasing to 24 percent last month from 18 percent in August 2022.

The public policy center argued that the rise in Americans’ wariness in COVID-19 vaccines and other vaccines is due to a “belief in health misinformation." "
Link Posted: 11/22/2023 12:04:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/22/2023 12:17:44 AM EDT
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Correlation isn't necessarily causation.  

Hint:  They were always insane.
Link Posted: 11/24/2023 11:21:19 AM EDT
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If you think ivermectin works that is an "incorrect" view say the pollsters.

"Without elaborating, the survey's authors said that the 26 percent "incorrectly" said that ivermectin is effective, while it has pointed to the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) statements saying the agency has not authorized or approved the drug for preventing or treating COVID-19, and it has claimed that data shows it isn't effective against the virus."


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"The survey also found that respondents increasingly believe that the COVID-19 shot isn't safe, increasing to 24 percent last month from 18 percent in August 2022.

The public policy center argued that the rise in Americans’ wariness in COVID-19 vaccines and other vaccines is due to a “belief in health misinformation." "
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Meanwhile, if I recall correctly here, the "hormone blockers" they're giving to children like candy, are EUA still.
AKA. "Not proven to work."

And does that stop them where there's dollars to be made and a woke-religious sacrament to be observed?
No.
Not it does not.

Link Posted: 11/26/2023 11:00:16 AM EDT
[#34]
Actual science and study reveals truth.
Expired with Dr. Clare Craig
Link Posted: 11/27/2023 9:41:29 AM EDT
[#35]
All cause excess is still way up . What could it be ?
Link Posted: 11/28/2023 10:08:40 PM EDT
[#36]


The peer-reviewed study, published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection on Nov. 13, analyzed mask use among 3,209 individuals from Norway. Researchers followed them for 17 days, and then asked the participants about their use of masks. The team found that there was a higher incidence of testing positive for COVID-19 among people who used masks more frequently.

Among individuals who “never or almost never” wore masks, 8.6 percent tested positive. That rose to 15 percent among participants who “sometimes” used masks, and to 15.1 percent among those who “almost always or always” wore them.

Adjusting for factors such as vaccination status, the study determined that individuals who sometimes or often wore masks had a 33 percent higher incidence of COVID-19, compared to those who never or almost never wore masks. This jumped to 40 percent among people who almost always or always wore them.

However, adjusting for “differences in baseline risk over time,” the risk of wearing masks turned out to be “less pronounced,” with only a 4 percent higher incidence of infection among mask-wearers.

“The results contradict earlier randomized and non-randomized studies of the effectiveness of mask-wearing on the risk of infection,” the researchers wrote.

...
Link Posted: 11/28/2023 11:24:55 PM EDT
[#37]
lol

A Covid Story

How my entire extended family got Covid even when Covid is "over."

...


Our first mistake started the Friday before Thanksgiving. My spouse took our daughter to an outdoor party her outdoor school was having. It was crowded. It was the first time she'd been around dozens of other people, including parents and other siblings, in months. She spends the vast majority of her day outdoors with a small pod. Despite all of this, they decided to take their masks off and eat at a table with some of her friends and parents.

They didn't tell me.

...


We traveled across the country with a 5-year-old who had Covid. None of us knew. She didn't have any symptoms at first.

We didn't know she was sick for four days.

We went inside gas stations. We went inside rest stops, all briefly. We ate every meal outside, alone. Once we got where we were going, we unpacked our air purifier. We put together a Corsi-Rosenthal box.

We went to a museum. We wore N95 masks everywhere. In fact, I wore an Aura 9330+, FFP3 (red straps).

...

He still wanted our in-laws to come over. So I put on my N95 mask. When they showed up, I told them I wasn't feeling great. Then I went to isolate in a back room, with one of the air purifiers.

They gave me that condescending smile, as if they were indulging an eccentric. "Okay," they said.

My in-laws have talked to us a number of times about our "mental health" over the last few years, especially when we were waiting on the FDA to approve vaccines for children under five. They said they wanted us to find a "balance" between taking Covid seriously and living our lives.


...


A couple of days later, she tested positive. It's a good thing she tested, because she was about to visit her entire family for Thanksgiving, including at least three seniors with health problems and compromised immune systems. My father-in-law has a history of heart problems.

We tested our daughter's poop.

It came back positive.

...

I've had more sick students and colleagues this semester than the last two years combined. Everyone's got Covid or some serious infection in the wake of Covid, thanks to a weakened immune system. Everyone's getting much sicker this time. They're winding up in the hospital. They're spending a solid week in bed, falling behind on work, and begging for deadline extensions.

They didn't update their boosters.

...etc
Link Posted: 11/29/2023 4:40:29 AM EDT
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lol

A Covid Story

How my entire extended family got Covid even when Covid is "over."

...


Our first mistake started the Friday before Thanksgiving. My spouse took our daughter to an outdoor party her outdoor school was having. It was crowded. It was the first time she'd been around dozens of other people, including parents and other siblings, in months. She spends the vast majority of her day outdoors with a small pod. Despite all of this, they decided to take their masks off and eat at a table with some of her friends and parents.

They didn't tell me.

...


We traveled across the country with a 5-year-old who had Covid. None of us knew. She didn't have any symptoms at first.

We didn't know she was sick for four days.

We went inside gas stations. We went inside rest stops, all briefly. We ate every meal outside, alone. Once we got where we were going, we unpacked our air purifier. We put together a Corsi-Rosenthal box.

We went to a museum. We wore N95 masks everywhere. In fact, I wore an Aura 9330+, FFP3 (red straps).

...

He still wanted our in-laws to come over. So I put on my N95 mask. When they showed up, I told them I wasn't feeling great. Then I went to isolate in a back room, with one of the air purifiers.

They gave me that condescending smile, as if they were indulging an eccentric. "Okay," they said.

My in-laws have talked to us a number of times about our "mental health" over the last few years, especially when we were waiting on the FDA to approve vaccines for children under five. They said they wanted us to find a "balance" between taking Covid seriously and living our lives.


...


A couple of days later, she tested positive. It's a good thing she tested, because she was about to visit her entire family for Thanksgiving, including at least three seniors with health problems and compromised immune systems. My father-in-law has a history of heart problems.

We tested our daughter's poop.

It came back positive.

...

I've had more sick students and colleagues this semester than the last two years combined. Everyone's got Covid or some serious infection in the wake of Covid, thanks to a weakened immune system. Everyone's getting much sicker this time. They're winding up in the hospital. They're spending a solid week in bed, falling behind on work, and begging for deadline extensions.

They didn't update their boosters.

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I wish him the best…like every booster he can get his hands on …”just to be sure”………
……because obviously the one he took didn’t work….
Link Posted: 11/29/2023 9:20:01 AM EDT
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The peer-reviewed study, published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection on Nov. 13, analyzed mask use among 3,209 individuals from Norway. Researchers followed them for 17 days, and then asked the participants about their use of masks. The team found that there was a higher incidence of testing positive for COVID-19 among people who used masks more frequently.

Among individuals who “never or almost never” wore masks, 8.6 percent tested positive. That rose to 15 percent among participants who “sometimes” used masks, and to 15.1 percent among those who “almost always or always” wore them.

Adjusting for factors such as vaccination status, the study determined that individuals who sometimes or often wore masks had a 33 percent higher incidence of COVID-19, compared to those who never or almost never wore masks. This jumped to 40 percent among people who almost always or always wore them.

However, adjusting for “differences in baseline risk over time,” the risk of wearing masks turned out to be “less pronounced,” with only a 4 percent higher incidence of infection among mask-wearers.

“The results contradict earlier randomized and non-randomized studies of the effectiveness of mask-wearing on the risk of infection,” the researchers wrote.

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The peer-reviewed study, published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection on Nov. 13, analyzed mask use among 3,209 individuals from Norway. Researchers followed them for 17 days, and then asked the participants about their use of masks. The team found that there was a higher incidence of testing positive for COVID-19 among people who used masks more frequently.

Among individuals who “never or almost never” wore masks, 8.6 percent tested positive. That rose to 15 percent among participants who “sometimes” used masks, and to 15.1 percent among those who “almost always or always” wore them.

Adjusting for factors such as vaccination status, the study determined that individuals who sometimes or often wore masks had a 33 percent higher incidence of COVID-19, compared to those who never or almost never wore masks. This jumped to 40 percent among people who almost always or always wore them.

However, adjusting for “differences in baseline risk over time,” the risk of wearing masks turned out to be “less pronounced,” with only a 4 percent higher incidence of infection among mask-wearers.

“The results contradict earlier randomized and non-randomized studies of the effectiveness of mask-wearing on the risk of infection,” the researchers wrote.

...


....“Our findings suggest that wearing a face mask may be associated with an increased risk of infection. However, it is important to note that this association may be due to unobservable and non-adjustable differences between those wearing and not wearing a mask,” the researchers stated.

“Therefore, caution is imperative when interpreting the results from this and other observational studies on the relationship between mask-wearing and infection risk. Recommendations to wear face masks in the community are largely informed by low certainty evidence from observational studies.”

Researchers called for more trials and studies to gain a better understanding of the effectiveness of wearing masks against transmission of respiratory pathogens.

The study was fully funded by the Norwegian Institute of Public Health. It reported no

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The peer-reviewed study, published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection on Nov. 13, analyzed mask use among 3,209 individuals from Norway. Researchers followed them for 17 days, and then asked the participants about their use of masks. The team found that there was a higher incidence of testing positive for COVID-19 among people who used masks more frequently.

Among individuals who "never or almost never" wore masks, 8.6 percent tested positive. That rose to 15 percent among participants who "sometimes" used masks, and to 15.1 percent among those who "almost always or always" wore them.

Adjusting for factors such as vaccination status, the study determined that individuals who sometimes or often wore masks had a 33 percent higher incidence of COVID-19, compared to those who never or almost never wore masks. This jumped to 40 percent among people who almost always or always wore them.

However, adjusting for "differences in baseline risk over time," the risk of wearing masks turned out to be "less pronounced," with only a 4 percent higher incidence of infection among mask-wearers.

"The results contradict earlier randomized and non-randomized studies of the effectiveness of mask-wearing on the risk of infection," the researchers wrote.

...


...."Our findings suggest that wearing a face mask may be associated with an increased risk of infection. However, it is important to note that this association may be due to unobservable and non-adjustable differences between those wearing and not wearing a mask," the researchers stated.

"Therefore, caution is imperative when interpreting the results from this and other observational studies on the relationship between mask-wearing and infection risk. Recommendations to wear face masks in the community are largely informed by low certainty evidence from observational studies."

Researchers called for more trials and studies to gain a better understanding of the effectiveness of wearing masks against transmission of respiratory pathogens.

The study was fully funded by the Norwegian Institute of Public Health. It reported no

Ive been saying from the start, mask have negative efficacy.   They make you touch your face more and people feel protected so generally wash their hands less.



MASKS HARM!!!
Link Posted: 11/29/2023 5:33:07 PM EDT
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https://academic.oup.com/jmcb/article/14/9/mjac058/6761401

Are the Origins of Covid still Relevant?
Link Posted: 11/29/2023 11:24:30 PM EDT
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Ive been saying from the start, mask have negative efficacy.   They make you touch your face more and people feel protected so generally wash their hands less.



MASKS HARM!!!
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
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The peer-reviewed study, published in the journal Epidemiology and Infection on Nov. 13, analyzed mask use among 3,209 individuals from Norway. Researchers followed them for 17 days, and then asked the participants about their use of masks. The team found that there was a higher incidence of testing positive for COVID-19 among people who used masks more frequently.

Among individuals who "never or almost never" wore masks, 8.6 percent tested positive. That rose to 15 percent among participants who "sometimes" used masks, and to 15.1 percent among those who "almost always or always" wore them.

Adjusting for factors such as vaccination status, the study determined that individuals who sometimes or often wore masks had a 33 percent higher incidence of COVID-19, compared to those who never or almost never wore masks. This jumped to 40 percent among people who almost always or always wore them.

However, adjusting for "differences in baseline risk over time," the risk of wearing masks turned out to be "less pronounced," with only a 4 percent higher incidence of infection among mask-wearers.

"The results contradict earlier randomized and non-randomized studies of the effectiveness of mask-wearing on the risk of infection," the researchers wrote.

...


...."Our findings suggest that wearing a face mask may be associated with an increased risk of infection. However, it is important to note that this association may be due to unobservable and non-adjustable differences between those wearing and not wearing a mask," the researchers stated.

"Therefore, caution is imperative when interpreting the results from this and other observational studies on the relationship between mask-wearing and infection risk. Recommendations to wear face masks in the community are largely informed by low certainty evidence from observational studies."

Researchers called for more trials and studies to gain a better understanding of the effectiveness of wearing masks against transmission of respiratory pathogens.

The study was fully funded by the Norwegian Institute of Public Health. It reported no

Ive been saying from the start, mask have negative efficacy.   They make you touch your face more and people feel protected so generally wash their hands less.



MASKS HARM!!!
When I had to go to the ER during covid for a asthma attack the nurses and doctors kept touching their masks.
(Fucking sucked trying to breath through the mask with a asthma attack.)


Also watching the hospital workers in public touch their masks all the damn time.
Link Posted: 11/30/2023 9:40:11 PM EDT
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Important Whistle-Blower information coming out of New Zealand - 30th November 2023.

It's an hour long clip but I edited some highlights and key analysis. Please watch!

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I was involved with building a project, helped with implementing a vaccine payment system for our providers. It's called a pay per dose system. So that means that every time someone gets vaccinated, they get a payment for it as a provider. And I helped build it, I implemented it. And when I was looking at the data, which is part of my job, I noticed some discrepancies with the dates of death, people getting people dying within a week of being vaccinated.

"the chances of that occurring naturally by chance is almost impossible."

"Well, as soon as the system went live, we noticed that people were dying almost straight away after being injected. So that sort of prompted my curiosity a bit, and so I dug a little deeper. And I am a scientist by nature. I love science. It's my all time favorite. I've got a master's degree in science."

"Because it's a payment system and I'm the database administrator for it. I'm the only one. Because New Zealand is a small country, you can get away with one database administrator to do this. So I'm in a unique position in the world. And because New Zealand is a tier one country with really good in I.T., I was able to manage and build the system and be the only database administrator needed to look after it. In other countries like America or Britain, you'd need a whole team of people. So it would be very difficult for one person to get access to all of this information. But in New Zealand, because of its size and because it's got really good I.T, I happen to be the one."

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Please note that this will likely be "community noted" because (as of 30 Nov 2023), the existing "official" COVID guidelines appear to still be significantly influenced by major pharmaceutical entities, and regulatory bodies continue to be potentially compromised.
Link Posted: 12/1/2023 3:22:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RSG:


Important Whistle-Blower information coming out of New Zealand - 30th November 2023.

It's an hour long clip but I edited some highlights and key analysis. Please watch!

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I was involved with building a project, helped with implementing a vaccine payment system for our providers. It's called a pay per dose system. So that means that every time someone gets vaccinated, they get a payment for it as a provider. And I helped build it, I implemented it. And when I was looking at the data, which is part of my job, I noticed some discrepancies with the dates of death, people getting people dying within a week of being vaccinated.

"the chances of that occurring naturally by chance is almost impossible."

"Well, as soon as the system went live, we noticed that people were dying almost straight away after being injected. So that sort of prompted my curiosity a bit, and so I dug a little deeper. And I am a scientist by nature. I love science. It's my all time favorite. I've got a master's degree in science."

"Because it's a payment system and I'm the database administrator for it. I'm the only one. Because New Zealand is a small country, you can get away with one database administrator to do this. So I'm in a unique position in the world. And because New Zealand is a tier one country with really good in I.T., I was able to manage and build the system and be the only database administrator needed to look after it. In other countries like America or Britain, you'd need a whole team of people. So it would be very difficult for one person to get access to all of this information. But in New Zealand, because of its size and because it's got really good I.T, I happen to be the one."

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Please note that this will likely be "community noted" because (as of 30 Nov 2023), the existing "official" COVID guidelines appear to still be significantly influenced by major pharmaceutical entities, and regulatory bodies continue to be potentially compromised.
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I hope this gentleman has copies of this data and has built a Deadman switch with it.
Link Posted: 12/1/2023 9:01:32 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8cG576W4AA6mkO?format=jpg&name=small
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Link Posted: 12/2/2023 8:37:27 AM EDT
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Wish she'd come to my local store when I'm there.
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Would she get "heckled"?
Link Posted: 12/2/2023 10:18:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:
Originally Posted By RSG:
Most people got the initial Covid shots. Why don’t most people want this one?
I think there’s a lot of folks that say ‘I got the original ones. Aren’t we done here?’ Or ‘I’ve had Covid, aren’t I protected?’
I’m trying to help them understand two important facts: One is that the virus has changed. And this updated vaccine is mapped to those changes in the virus. And then the other fact is we’re seeing in the data that your protection from either a previous vaccine or from having Covid before decreases over time.

People were told they were fully vaccinated with the initial shots. Was that a mistake?
You haven’t heard us use that term in a while. I find it confusing.

At the time, we used ‘fully vaccinated’ to help folks understand they needed to complete the primary series. I think that was right. But what does fully vaccinated mean for us right now? It’s getting this updated Covid vaccine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/24/covid-flu-vaccine-cdc-director-mandy-cohen-00123268


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/476040/Moving_the_goalpost-3003148.gif

Dat gif.
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