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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:41:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just walk in places and say "ere! Whats all this then!" On a related note it dosent matter how much Hi-Vis you wear the average American driver will still try to kill you or drive his car right into the back of the giant yellow excavator with the strobe lights. A school bus is one of the bigger types of vehicles on the road. Certainy bigger than your average family hauler. With lights that compare in size with dinner plates. And yet someone could drive around the flattest part of TX and rear-end it, while it was flashing said dinner plate lights, without another vehicle or building within eyesight. Boggles the mind. It's something I always think about when people assume flashing lights is good. I recall reading a study where it subconsciously draws us in. Makes sense, flashing makes you look, you tend to steer towards where you look. Hence "look where you want to go, not at what you are trying to avoid." |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope to finish my career without ever needing to test out just how good my FR clothing is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now look at FR clothing. I hope to finish my career without ever needing to test out just how good my FR clothing is. Yup I work in substations. If my FR gear ever gets tested that’s a bad fucken day. Especially my 40 cal switching suit. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:46:56 PM EDT
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Hi vis works because it's unusual in the environment. Well now everthing and everyone is Hi Vis "for safety" so now we are heading back to normal vis again...
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:48:45 PM EDT
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feet on the street, vest on the chest
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:50:17 PM EDT
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If the "homeless" panhandlers around here are wearing it, it's not too expensive. Your going to the wrong place to purchase it.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:50:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My buddy calls it "slave yellow."  |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:52:39 PM EDT
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I had to buy my own safety gear.
 Ear protection,gloves and outerwear. Went through them all in a year do I was always buying new stuff. Year after I was gone they started buying everything. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the "homeless" panhandlers around here are wearing it, it's not too expensive. Your going to the wrong place to purchase it. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 1:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hi vis works because it's unusual in the environment. Well now everthing and everyone is Hi Vis "for safety" so now we are heading back to normal vis again... Observational only, motorcycles used to stand out more when they were the only vehicles that were wired for always on headlights. Now that most cars have DRLs, I don't see them stand out as much. Also, your statement reminds me of looking at ammo on the shelf, now the ammo in plain boxes stand out, rather than the ones in fancy colored/pattered boxes. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 1:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hi vis works because it's unusual in the environment. Well now everthing and everyone is Hi Vis "for safety" so now we are heading back to normal vis again... That's the main reason many places are making us crane guys wear a different colored vest from the steelworkers, pipe fitters and scaffolding guys. It's easier to pick out the rigger calling the load from the sea of yellow (or orange) vests. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 1:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A school bus is one of the bigger types of vehicles on the road. Certainy bigger than your average family hauler. With lights that compare in size with dinner plates. And yet someone could drive around the flattest part of TX and rear-end it, while it was flashing said dinner plate lights, without another vehicle or building within eyesight. Boggles the mind. It's something I always think about when people assume flashing lights is good. I recall reading a study where it subconsciously draws us in. Makes sense, flashing makes you look, you tend to steer towards where you look. Hence "look where you want to go, not at what you are trying to avoid." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just walk in places and say "ere! Whats all this then!" On a related note it dosent matter how much Hi-Vis you wear the average American driver will still try to kill you or drive his car right into the back of the giant yellow excavator with the strobe lights. A school bus is one of the bigger types of vehicles on the road. Certainy bigger than your average family hauler. With lights that compare in size with dinner plates. And yet someone could drive around the flattest part of TX and rear-end it, while it was flashing said dinner plate lights, without another vehicle or building within eyesight. Boggles the mind. It's something I always think about when people assume flashing lights is good. I recall reading a study where it subconsciously draws us in. Makes sense, flashing makes you look, you tend to steer towards where you look. Hence "look where you want to go, not at what you are trying to avoid." What is especially bad is LEO vehicles with blue strobes, usually set on high brightness, and hi speed flash, at night. The blue light frequency is designed to intentionally confuse your eyes, "to force drivers to slow down more". Instead, they are blinding and dis-orienting, thus making it much easier to drive right into the cop car / wreck, whatever. Years ago, California did a traffic study that proved that a cruiser parked on the side of the road, without lights, caused less wrecks, collisions, traffic disruption, ie 'rubberneckers' than fully lit up cruisers. The really bad news is that LEO's working the incident think they are 'safe' because of all the flashing lights, which makes all people on foot basically invisible to a blinded driver. To all LEO's - I can see your fucking blue strobes from a mile away. I know you are there. Now dim them, slow them so I can see to avoid you. ETA - to the OP - sorry for the hi-jack / rant. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 1:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now look at FR clothing. This....and then the tools for Arc Flash use ! |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 1:56:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Absolute ripoff. The same hoodie in blue or another color is $50 or so, with some reflective material and bright yellow dye, it's well over $200.00. Don't mind paying extra for the extra work and material but that damn well isn't another $150 bucks worth of anything and it's not like the quality of anything on it to include the zipper is better. Sheesh........... You must suck at shopping if you pay $200. Carhart hivis $80 Uline jacket $50 Hivis supply pullover hoody $33 Carhart blaze orange sweatshirt $30 Those are just a couple quick examples, there are many more... |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 2:20:08 PM EDT
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Back when my job required FR clothing, my employer paid for it. That stuff can get quite expensive. The best was when I worked in Canada and had to get new steel toed boots and helmet since my stuff was not CSA approved
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Posted: 3/18/2021 2:23:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now look at FR clothing. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 3:31:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You must suck at shopping if you pay $200. Carhart hivis $80 Uline jacket $50 Hivis supply pullover hoody $33 Carhart blaze orange sweatshirt $30 Those are just a couple quick examples, there are many more... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Absolute ripoff. The same hoodie in blue or another color is $50 or so, with some reflective material and bright yellow dye, it's well over $200.00. Don't mind paying extra for the extra work and material but that damn well isn't another $150 bucks worth of anything and it's not like the quality of anything on it to include the zipper is better. Sheesh........... You must suck at shopping if you pay $200. Carhart hivis $80 Uline jacket $50 Hivis supply pullover hoody $33 Carhart blaze orange sweatshirt $30 Those are just a couple quick examples, there are many more... That have to have the company ID/logo on them and that is the issue. Plus, we can only spend out allowance with the company they choose. I will say they dumped the last company because they kept jacking prices up. A shirt I was originally buying for $18 or so was $35 a couple years later. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 3:34:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Absolute ripoff. The same hoodie in blue or another color is $50 or so, with some reflective material and bright yellow dye, it's well over $200.00. Don't mind paying extra for the extra work and material but that damn well isn't another $150 bucks worth of anything and it's not like the quality of anything on it to include the zipper is better. Sheesh........... No injuries on job sites before it was required Required to wear it and I am still here Jury is still out on whether this is because of the safety vest or some other reason 
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Posted: 3/18/2021 3:41:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We get a clothing allowance which was decently generous right up until Hi Vis started to be required. For the newer guys, a couple Hi Vis sweatshirts can wipe out most of their clothing allowance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Absolute ripoff. The same hoodie in blue or another color is $50 or so, with some reflective material and bright yellow dye, it's well over $200.00. Don't mind paying extra for the extra work and material but that damn well isn't another $150 bucks worth of anything and it's not like the quality of anything on it to include the zipper is better. Sheesh........... Your employer should be providing all safety equipment and clothing. Mine Does We get a clothing allowance which was decently generous right up until Hi Vis started to be required. For the newer guys, a couple Hi Vis sweatshirts can wipe out most of their clothing allowance. If it's required, company should pay. We are supplied everything from gloves/safety glasses to hi-vis wear and rain gear. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 7:56:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once everybody and everything is hi vis, nobody and nothing will be visible. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:01:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:14:32 PM EDT
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Call it "tactical" and add another $100.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:19:00 PM EDT
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I'm still dumbfounded that the guy purposefully larps as LE by wearing a police jacket, then jokes that others are stupid for thinking he's a cop.
Trying to wrap my brain around that one. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got one of these years ago https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/5/594580_ts.jpg It’s too much fun. People think I am a cop! Call me “officer” and everything. Funny how few realize it’s a UK police jacket. You wear a jacket that says police on it?
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:35:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope to finish my career without ever needing to test out just how good my FR clothing is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now look at FR clothing. I hope to finish my career without ever needing to test out just how good my FR clothing is. We get burned all the time and either require patches on the holes from the burns or after awhile just get all new uniforms if they have enough or big enough. They burns suck but definitely 1000% better than entirely lighting up. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:36:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That have to have the company ID/logo on them and that is the issue. Plus, we can only spend out allowance with the company they choose. I will say they dumped the last company because they kept jacking prices up. A shirt I was originally buying for $18 or so was $35 a couple years later. So the problem isn't the price of hi-viz clothing, its that your employer is retarded ( company logos) and getting fucked by their "mandatory supplier" who keeps raising the price. I had a previous employer who gave out company logo hi viz t-shirts almost monthly and sweatshirts once a year, and occasionally a hi viz raincoat or a carhartt with the company name/logo embroidered on the chest. I work for a direct competitor these days and wear a logo'd shirt/sweatshirt from my previous company almost every day. At some point I figure management will give me a couple shirts just to stop seeing the other company's shirts on their job as often. 
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:40:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:42:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got one of these years ago https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/5/594580_ts.jpg It’s too much fun. People think I am a cop! Call me “officer” and everything. Funny how few realize it’s a UK police jacket. Related to this guy?  The cops IMMEDIATELY regretted selling him one of their cars |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 8:59:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now look at FR clothing. Yeah. I asked the safety bitch a question way back in 1994 when they were derping FR. It was concerning my head looking like a burnt match in the event of fire since there was no head protection. Deer in the headlights from her. Balaclavas became available about 2010. It’s about protecting corporate, not you. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 9:02:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the problem isn't the price of hi-viz clothing, its that your employer is retarded ( company logos) and getting fucked by their "mandatory supplier" who keeps raising the price. I had a previous employer who gave out company logo hi viz t-shirts almost monthly and sweatshirts once a year, and occasionally a hi viz raincoat or a carhartt with the company name/logo embroidered on the chest. I work for a direct competitor these days and wear a logo'd shirt/sweatshirt from my previous company almost every day. At some point I figure management will give me a couple shirts just to stop seeing the other company's shirts on their job as often. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 9:04:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get the SG hate, they honour backorders, and during the last panic they were one of the most reasonably priced outfits for ammo. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 9:04:29 PM EDT
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I was once told that nothing says “I’ve got a GED” like wearing a hi-viz vest.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 9:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your company is either ripping you off then or is partnered with a shitty company for hi-vis gear. I do sales of safety gear for a major company that is a supplier of this type of work wear, and I can tell you it's not nearly as expensive as you guys are saying. My guess is either your company is giving an "allowance" and then marking it way up through their procurement system to appear to be giving you more but they really aren't (very common) or they are partnered with uline for this gear. Had a safety nazi give me shit for not buying "approved boots" from their list of vendors. Apparently mil surplus linesman's boots with demonstrated ANSI rated steel toes, were not as good as whatever overpriced made in china shit they were shilling. Six months later, the safety nazi had moved to greener pastures. I'm still using the same boots. |
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