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Posted: 6/10/2022 2:02:43 PM EDT
[#1]
SCAR rifle , developed early 2000's feels dated to a rifle designed in the 60's ?
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Posted: 6/10/2022 2:11:33 PM EDT
[#2]
I can see that. For what you have to pay, I'll pass everytime.
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:08:58 PM EDT
[#3]
I enjoy my scars. I'm gonna suppress my 17 here soon when my 7.62 RC2 finally gets out of jail. And I just sbrd my 16 with a factory 10.5 barrel that I shoot usually with an m4-2000 can installed. Not worried. Everyone blows the suppressor bs out of proportion. Run a good can with low back pressure and forget about it. You should be able to service your own weapons anyway.
I think they're sweet and haven't shot an AR in months. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:13:14 PM EDT
[#4]
 I shot my M4 “clone” at the range. It’s a pre-sunset upper. It has a regular FSB but no bayonet lug. Pinned muzzle brake. Detachable carry handle. KAC RAS Neighbors were looking at me like just crawled out of a time capsule. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:20:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Uh, the SCAR copied the AR on just about everything except the charging handle and stock. They even used the same shitty design for bolt catch/release.
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:21:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Awwww hell naw!!!! Love my 17!!!
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:21:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ARX's are also worth getting. My only complaint is it's a bit gassy suppressed with the open left side venting gas towards my face. If they made the 10.5" 300 blk barrels they planned to it would have been awesome. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:22:02 PM EDT
[#8]
a time where the girls wore chokers, hip hugger boot cut jeans, and halter tops
YES!! can we go back to those times? |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:27:38 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What?!?!?!?!?! Then GD MUST hate it, GD hates every gun with a piston!!! You're confusing old with hate. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:29:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, the SCAR copied the AR on just about everything except the charging handle and stock. They even used the same shitty design for bolt catch/release. Pretty sure the bolt catch and safety is similar on purpose, otherwise they are very different. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:34:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the different flavors of ice cream but I just don’t see the point to SCARS and Tavors when the AR does everything better and less expensively. They do look cool though. Pretty sure my 20S is gonna do a better job at throwing 7.62 bullets at 1k than my ARs will 
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:40:07 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't own a scar, but I wish they would put beer in the vending machine at work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I own a SCAR. It feels very dated to use and shoot compared to an AR. I can't really describe it but just holding a SCAR feels like its 1998 and I can get a beer from a vending machine at a junkyard for 80 cents. Intellectually I know that is false but somehow a good AR just feels more modern. I don't own a scar, but I wish they would put beer in the vending machine at work. They do in Germany |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 6:44:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Yeah dog the are camo out in like 2007
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Posted: 6/10/2022 9:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure the bolt catch and safety is similar on purpose, otherwise they are very different. See this is where I gotta disagree. But then, I roll my eyes at people when they insist that a minor difference makes a completely different firearm. The SCAR took the “piston” operation out of the back of the BCG and put it at the gas block with a tappet system. Yes, that’s different than an AR, and even different than most piston ARs I’d say (them being more conventional short stoke pistons). With that change came the different charging handle location, and recoil spring design (allowing a proper folding stock). But the rest of the differences are minuscule. They share mag wells/magazines, mag release, selector/safety, preciously mentioned bolt catch/release, and pistol grip. Then take a look at the bolt face. Tell me that’s not AR. Sure it’s tail is different, cuz they changed the gas system. The SCAR is not innovative, groundbreaking or original. There are very few things in firearms that are these days. They tweaked the AR. And yes, kept controls similar on purpose so no one would freak out that new training is needed. |
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Posted: 6/10/2022 10:33:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See this is where I gotta disagree. But then, I roll my eyes at people when they insist that a minor difference makes a completely different firearm. The SCAR took the “piston” operation out of the back of the BCG and put it at the gas block with a tappet system. Yes, that’s different than an AR, and even different than most piston ARs I’d say (them being more conventional short stoke pistons). With that change came the different charging handle location, and recoil spring design (allowing a proper folding stock). But the rest of the differences are minuscule. They share mag wells/magazines, mag release, selector/safety, preciously mentioned bolt catch/release, and pistol grip. Then take a look at the bolt face. Tell me that’s not AR. Sure it’s tail is different, cuz they changed the gas system. The SCAR is not innovative, groundbreaking or original. There are very few things in firearms that are these days. They tweaked the AR. And yes, kept controls similar on purpose so no one would freak out that new training is needed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty sure the bolt catch and safety is similar on purpose, otherwise they are very different. See this is where I gotta disagree. But then, I roll my eyes at people when they insist that a minor difference makes a completely different firearm. The SCAR took the “piston” operation out of the back of the BCG and put it at the gas block with a tappet system. Yes, that’s different than an AR, and even different than most piston ARs I’d say (them being more conventional short stoke pistons). With that change came the different charging handle location, and recoil spring design (allowing a proper folding stock). But the rest of the differences are minuscule. They share mag wells/magazines, mag release, selector/safety, preciously mentioned bolt catch/release, and pistol grip. Then take a look at the bolt face. Tell me that’s not AR. Sure it’s tail is different, cuz they changed the gas system. The SCAR is not innovative, groundbreaking or original. There are very few things in firearms that are these days. They tweaked the AR. And yes, kept controls similar on purpose so no one would freak out that new training is needed. I guess it’s a matter of degree. They are both semiautomatic and shoot metallic cartridges, so they are the same. IMO the difference between DI and piston alone count for more than a minuscule difference. The modular nature of the scar is the competitive advantage, quick barrel change with repeatable zero is something the AR doesn’t do. Admittedly FN has done a horrible job exploiting this advantage for the civilian market but when it comes to semiauto precision there is a very short list of rifles that can swap calibers with only a torque wrench. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 4:49:17 AM EDT
[#16]
HK 91 feels a little dated.
MP5 feels a little dated. I feel a little dated. It's all good. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 5:15:53 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: unless you are using the railspace get the no profile handguards. I can still mount IR to top and the slimness makes it more manipulatable. The chonky short quad rail is what makes it feel dated, everything else is fantastic. Suppressor setting being decidedly modern. Just ditching the side rails helps. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 5:20:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it's a battle rifle with a long stroke piston. Do you have no experience of the scar or do you just not know the difference between long and short stroke? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 5:20:37 AM EDT
[#19]
The AR-15 has the benefit of being around for over half a century. Couple that with it being what is now probably the most popular gun in the civilian world and it has been honed like a razor's edge by tinkerers, the military, and commercial manufacturers. The amount of combined man hours that has gone into refining it and improving it over the years is mind boggling. The SCAR is an expensive gun made by a single manufacturer and it never really caught on and thus has never had the same level of R&D/support, so it's never going to feel quite as "right" as an AR-15 that you've tailored for yourself does.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 5:22:27 AM EDT
[#20]
Sold mine last year in a fit of consolidation & downsizing.
All in all it just kind of bored me. 
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Posted: 6/11/2022 5:24:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the design but I can't un-see the ugg boot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Agree. I never saw the appeal of the SCAR. Just something clunky and weird about them, like a cyberpunk movie prop. I like the design but I can't un-see the ugg boot. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 5:36:46 AM EDT
[#22]
Yep, there are many superior choices nowadays...example:
 
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:05:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, there are many superior choices nowadays...example: https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/APC308.jpg https://preview.redd.it/lt05m802jej71.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e481d1415a92faf899a816140d94d419dabf510 I like B&T and they make nice guns but no caliber conversion means it’s not superior. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:06:50 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the different flavors of ice cream but I just don’t see the point to SCARS and Tavors when the AR does everything better and less expensively. They do look cool though. This is where I'm at |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:16:17 AM EDT
[#25]
My ACR that I SBR’d and put in a 10.5” Faxon lightweight barrel in looks like a gun from 2030 and feels like having sex with 19 year old hot chicks!
Too bad to hear about your scar. At least it’s not a tactical tuna! |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 12:00:05 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: I own a SCAR. It feels very dated to use and shoot compared to an AR. I can't really describe it but just holding a SCAR feels like its 1998 and I can get a beer from a vending machine at a junkyard for 80 cents. Intellectually I know that is false but somehow a good AR just feels more modern. That's exactly how I feel between my 1911 and Glock 19. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 12:09:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My ACR that I SBR'd and put in a 10.5" Faxon lightweight barrel in looks like a gun from 2030 and feels like having sex with 19 year old hot chicks! Too bad to hear about your scar. At least it's not a tactical tuna!  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 12:18:39 PM EDT
[#28]
 Should You Buy a SCAR 17? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 12:25:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryI'm genuinely curious, having never shot a 308 SCAR, what I would think about it compared to large frame ARs. I really like the SR25 and the LaRue, and I've never shot JP or LMTs but I hear they're nice too, but like all large frame ARs they just seem unnecessarily large in the rear of the receivers. That being said I really didn't like the 556 SCAR, have no idea what problems it was supposed to solve, and would never take it over an AR. If I absolutely needed a folding piston gun for some reason, I'd take an MCX over it. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 12:44:50 PM EDT
[#30]
 Why the SCAR in 5.56 (MK16) was not adopted by U.S. Special Forces to replace the M4A1. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 12:48:27 PM EDT
[#31]
Stock ones are dated. They need to release one with an extended mlok handguard, better stock and trigger.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 1:12:52 PM EDT
[#32]
I love my SCAR16.
I love my ARs. I love my other rifles. Why do we love to hate what others love? This is still a free country where we have the freedom of choice yet people love to hate on other’s choices! To each his own! |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 7:09:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love my SCAR16. I love my ARs. I love my other rifles. Why do we love to hate what others love? This is still a free country where we have the freedom of choice yet people love to hate on other’s choices! To each his own! I hate your opinion. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 7:13:52 PM EDT
[#34]
Get a Steyr Aug, that will fix it
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Posted: 6/11/2022 7:17:33 PM EDT
[#35]
My T36C feels very 2010ish.
SCAR 17 feels about the same. I keep buying these rifles and I still return to my MK18. You can’t beat perfection. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 7:17:37 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SCAR rifle , developed early 2000's feels dated to a rifle designed in the 60's ? (LOL) A rifle designed with a 1930s system of operation (SCAR with short-stroke piston and non-reciprocating charging handle) feels dated next to one with a late 1950s system? Say it ain't so! |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 8:59:27 PM EDT
[#37]
Needs MLOK.
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