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Didn't read the thread but just wanted to chime in and say that it's not the color of an American's skin that defines us but rather the identity and uniqueness of American culture. The latter we have been losing do to bringing over people that hate the USA, government cheese free loaders, and having open borders. The only hope now is to shut down immigration completely, and let us fight it out over the next 100 years until we are a brownish looking, freedom loving, gun toting, God fearing nation again.
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Quoted: I think it is more a culture of self policing. That is, you policing yourself. Guilt culture vs shame culture is I think a related concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt-Shame-Fear_spectrum_of_cultures Consider that in the US, Washington started the tradition of quiting after two terms and it continued until FDR. Throughout Latin America the issue of term limits has been very important, because Latin American leaders have never behaved that well. There is a lot of advantages to a high trust society. However, it becomes complicated when you mix in people from lower trust societies. In large measure, that's what our immigration policy has achieved. Bohr was goofing on the weakness often noted of the German and Scandanavian societies, but there is a weakness to the northern cultures. Part of that is an assumption that everyone, like you, is to be trusted. Also, I'd say that such cultures are more objective and open minded, more willing to hear the other side. This is a typical liberal trait that is good, but when you are in a fight you might need to drop that and fight for your side, warts and all. I can say that with by Latin American in-laws, objectivity and truth are not as important as family loyality. View Quote |
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Is this you. And do you consider Jews to not be white https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304912/55199AF6-5AA0-4875-A93D-474DE2A0CD59_jpeg-932727.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LOL.... My ancestors like 500 years back are probably Jewish since the ancestry shit says I'm a tiny Percentage. Like less than 1% and in 1492, the Spanish Crown kicked Jews out. But my family didn't immigrate to Cuba from Asturias (Spain) until the 1890s when my Great Grandfather was stationed in Cuba in the Spanish Army. The reason he stayed in Cuba was because after the war that Spain lost, he liked the weather since it didn't snow. That's where the Jewish connection in me comes from. From folks over 500 years ago. Try again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304912/55199AF6-5AA0-4875-A93D-474DE2A0CD59_jpeg-932727.JPG These folks are Jewish but I don't think they classify as White. ![]() As for is Israel considered a White Country. That depends, are the Sabras (70% of the country) considered White? Many here don't view Jews as White and a number of Jews themselves don't view themselves as White. Do you consider White to be a race or an ethnicity/culture? Because race and ethnicity/cut to are two vastly different things. |
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Jews are a culture and an ethnicity just like Hispanics. You have White, Black, and Asian Jews. Do I consider them White? Yes, if they're White. Just like I consider a Hispanic or Latino White if they're White. These folks are Jewish but I don't think they classify as White. https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/02/WhatsApp-Image-2018-02-12-at-12.53.02-PM-e1518437165808.jpeg As for is Israel considered a White Country. That depends, are the Sabras (70% of the country) considered White? Many here don't view Jews as White and a number of Jews themselves don't view themselves as White. Do you consider White to be a race or an ethnicity/culture? Because race and ethnicity/cut to are two vastly different things. View Quote |
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Yeah because little Haiti is bastion of safety and crime control View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Earth, Florida, Miami-Dade County. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... |
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More cause for celeberation among the left. ------------------------------------- The US white majority will soon disappear forever "Since the settlement of Jamestown in 1607 and the start of the Colonial period, the U.S. has been predominantly white. But the white share of the U.S. population has been dropping, from a little under 90% in 1950 to 60% in 2018. It will likely drop below 50% in another 25 years. White nationalists want America to be white again. But this will never happen. America is on its way to becoming predominantly nonwhite." View Quote Not counting them correctly is Bovine Scatology. |
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That's just plain false the majority of Jews in Israel is Ashkenazi and Sephardic. So once again you don't have your facts right and you just try to distract. As for the real question your about as white according to the founding fathers as my dog is View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Jews are a culture and an ethnicity just like Hispanics. You have White, Black, and Asian Jews. Do I consider them White? Yes, if they're White. Just like I consider a Hispanic or Latino White if they're White. These folks are Jewish but I don't think they classify as White. https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/02/WhatsApp-Image-2018-02-12-at-12.53.02-PM-e1518437165808.jpeg As for is Israel considered a White Country. That depends, are the Sabras (70% of the country) considered White? Many here don't view Jews as White and a number of Jews themselves don't view themselves as White. Do you consider White to be a race or an ethnicity/culture? Because race and ethnicity/cut to are two vastly different things. Again, do Semites consider themselves White? Some do and some don't. |
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The vast majority of Hispanics are Caucasian. Not counting them correctly is Bovine Scatology. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More cause for celeberation among the left. ------------------------------------- The US white majority will soon disappear forever "Since the settlement of Jamestown in 1607 and the start of the Colonial period, the U.S. has been predominantly white. But the white share of the U.S. population has been dropping, from a little under 90% in 1950 to 60% in 2018. It will likely drop below 50% in another 25 years. White nationalists want America to be white again. But this will never happen. America is on its way to becoming predominantly nonwhite." Not counting them correctly is Bovine Scatology. Many here confuse race with ethnicity/culture. I will ask the question again. There is a unified mono culture for Whites? Yes or no? |
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... View Quote |
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swede1986 has enter the game.
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Well you're the dude that said the French and Spanish weren't white so I don't see how you consider yourself white View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I think when whites are a minority all the people that tried so hard not to be labeled a racist are going to finally figure out what it all boils down to in the end . Good or bad , right or wrong, it always comes to that. You put people in a cage , how do they separate themselves? Prison for example. It will always come down to race . It’s human nature. View Quote |
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. View Quote How does Miami vote you still haven’t answered that question Also why are you so mad that you’re not white since you obviously don’t like whites |
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Well you're the dude that said the French and Spanish weren't white so I don't see how you consider yourself white View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. View Quote Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. |
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Yes in fact you did but when I called you on you're bullshit went back to the Anglo thing How does Miami vote you still haven't answered that question Also why are you so mad that you're not white since you obviously don't like whites View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. How does Miami vote you still haven't answered that question Also why are you so mad that you're not white since you obviously don't like whites Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? |
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Well if you want to go by that the Anglo Saxons are Germanic lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Anglos aren't white either. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. Krauts mixed with Celts, neither of which is white. |
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Miami a votes Democrat, the same as Montpelier. Why? Because they're full of Leftists. Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? View Quote |
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Anglos aren't white either. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. ![]() |
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Never said white are a monolithic culture. But why did the Irish Italians Germans and whoever else came from Europe integrated well into American culture but blacks that have been here for 400 years still haven't View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Miami a votes Democrat, the same as Montpelier. Why? Because they're full of Leftists. Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. |
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I'm not sure. All the Continentals are mixed race at this point, so it's moot anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Didn't the Anglos Saxons invade the UK and kill off the natives? Hell, isn't the royal House Germanic? ![]() All the Continentals are mixed race at this point, so it's moot anyway. ![]() |
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Because last I checked, Italians, Germans, and Irish weren't brought here as slaves and then treated as second class citizens for another 100 years. Yes, they were discriminated upon. But they formed their own ethnic enclaves and then multigenerationally assimilated into the greater American fabric since they weren't easily identified to be discriminated against like Blacks were. I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. View Quote |
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... View Quote |
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So wypepol fault again. This is why I don't understand why you're so angry that you're not white. Why is their culture so different compared to let's say an Anglo and an Irish man View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Because last I checked, Italians, Germans, and Irish weren't brought here as slaves and then treated as second class citizens for another 100 years. Yes, they were discriminated upon. But they formed their own ethnic enclaves and then multigenerationally assimilated into the greater American fabric since they weren't easily identified to be discriminated against like Blacks were. I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. |
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This is false. I have lived here and there and for the most part they eventually will pick up Black American Culture sooner or later. View Quote |
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I didn't say White People, I said America. We do need to as a country accept our fuck ups just as much as our accomplishments. View Quote |
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Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they’re still not integrated View Quote |
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This is false. I have lived here and there and for the most part they eventually will pick up Black American Culture sooner or later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... Look at Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., he's Nigerian yet has identifies more with Black American Culture. His paren.... not so much. |
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My personal experience with African Immigrants are quite the opposite. Now their kids are different. They very much become part of it. No different than any other immigrant population. Even take a rural westerner snd have him raise kids in NYC and the kid will acclimate to NYC culture. Look at Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., he's Nigerian yet has identifies more with Black American Culture. His paren.... not so much. View Quote |
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Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they're still not integrated View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I didn't say White People, I said America. We do need to as a country accept our fuck ups just as much as our accomplishments. |
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Whites were the first to remove slavery from their culture. Slavery is most definitely still practiced today in other cultures. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they're still not integrated |
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The rural westerner to NYC isn't the same thing. That's location culture. Not the same as race. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My personal experience with African Immigrants are quite the opposite. Now their kids are different. They very much become part of it. No different than any other immigrant population. Even take a rural westerner snd have him raise kids in NYC and the kid will acclimate to NYC culture. Look at Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., he's Nigerian yet has identifies more with Black American Culture. His paren.... not so much. |
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Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing. View Quote America "admitting mistakes" is a systematic attempt by evil people worldwide to put down completely innocent people in order to take advantage of them. It gains us nothing and will destroy us. |
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It could never be a flip of the switch. It should be expected. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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