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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:24:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 18 life boats are enough for 8,000 people? |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:26:26 PM EDT
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Just think of the freezer/refrigerator space, how many kitchens, laundry facilities, holding tanks for water and sewage...what is the draft on this...? |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:27:19 PM EDT
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I mean, it's nice and all, but what's the mileage like? Hmmm?
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:28:37 PM EDT
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Bullshit. I shot skeet on my first cruse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cesspool of flu and germs. No guns. You can't drive away when you want. Not for me. I shot skeet on my first cruse. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:30:06 PM EDT
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Back in the day.......
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:34:29 PM EDT
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I've sailed on the Allure. It was a great experience, but yeah, that class of ships is just too huge. I prefer the midsize ones.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:36:32 PM EDT
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Honestly, I’d prefer a voyage on Titanic (aside from the sinking part). No TV, no WiFi, nothing but authentic non-amplified music, etc. People dressing well, no kids running around like lunatics, no pool deck with a bunch of yelling and screaming and ugly people flopping their shit out everywhere. I’d kill for the main activities to be enjoying the world float by, engaging in intelligent conversation, enjoying a brandy and playing some cards in the smoking room, etc. Life has gotten to be too complicated. I want an actual, back to basics but luxurious retreat. The last thing I want to do is jump on a noisy cruise ship with 8000 other adults and kids who are obnoxious, have no sense of decorum, etc. and who can’t drop the TV, WiFi, music, or whatever for a few days. I enjoy some of the smaller ships, but these new enormous ones just sound like a nightmare. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:38:15 PM EDT
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Moskit magnet. Big target.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:38:22 PM EDT
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Cruises can be very nice and enjoyable, but can also be a letdown. In part you have to know what you want, and be deliberate in your choice of cruise line.
My wife and I went on a Black Sea cruise with a cruise line called Azamara (it’s owned by one of the bigger companies), and it was awesome because it was pretty much all old people.  . There were literally no kids! There were maybe a dozen teenagers (including my nieces), but almost everyone else seemed to be in their 60s. My wife and I were in our late 40s, and were some of the youngest adults on the ship. It was awesome. Nobody was in a hurry, people took it easy - no lines or anything.Also, getting a larger cabin with a balcony made the entire experience so much better. A world of difference. We’d have breakfast on the balcony every morning, and just enjoy the view and nice weather. No dealing with people, restaurants, etc. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:41:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: Nope. Carriers are measured by their displacement tonnage which coincides with the weight of the water actually displaced by the ship while afloat. In order to overstate their comparison to other massive vessels, cruise ships are described by means of their "gross tonnage" which isn't a measurement of the ship's weight, but is actually a measure of it's interior volume as calculated by a formula. My guess is that the displacement tonnage of the Oasis Class cruise ships is between 90,000 and 110,000 tons, or roughly the same as a Nimitz. 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:46:31 PM EDT
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sure would be fun exiting into a tropical port with 8K of your friends - no thanks
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:59:05 PM EDT
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These are no longer ships. They are resorts that just coincidentally happen to float. Not enough draft, top heavy, too much glass. Underwater they are shaped more like a giant barge than an Ocean Liner. And the ports aren't any bigger. Nassau isn't any bigger, St. Thomas is still the same size and now instead of 2,000 people getting off the ship flooding the town you have 8,000! No thanks, I'll look for a smaller ship if I go cruising. The last one I was on was the Disney Magic about 18 years ago and at least it was actually seaworthy. http://www.cruisemapper.com/images/ships/684-34eec7bfa73cab0dcf4ec2544a0932ca.jpg 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 5:59:38 PM EDT
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Imagine 5000 people vying for the tiny little pool all at once, just like every other cruise I've been on. Unless they finally figure out to make a reservation system, or make it additional cost to keep out the riff raff that believe a heavily chlorinated public bathtub is the holy grail of all entertainment. The hot tub has 40 moronic teenagers at all times. Might as well just cross that off the list of amenities.
Oh, and playing crappy mini golf was a real joy, with a constantly moving ship and 20-30knot wind. Good thinking carnival. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 6:07:08 PM EDT
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Does the CDC keep a full time office on board?
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Posted: 3/28/2018 6:10:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2018 6:14:19 PM EDT
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Make it twice as expensive with half as many people and I might be interested.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 6:19:26 PM EDT
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Oh, and playing crappy mini golf was a real joy, with a constantly moving ship and 20-30knot wind. Good thinking carnival. 
I always wondered how that worked |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:06:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've heard these things are so big you never get to see the entire ship during a cruise. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:12:10 PM EDT
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MS Veendam (Holland America Lines) is a nice size with 1350 passengers.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of slutty cougars and blow. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:20:48 PM EDT
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Are these ships still dumping all their sewage into the sea before they come into port? |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:42:05 PM EDT
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International waters, they should do a machine gun shoot off the stern. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cesspool of flu and germs. No guns. You can't drive away when you want. Not for me. I shot skeet on my first cruse.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:45:23 PM EDT
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Not a big cruise ship fan.....but that's a huge bitch
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:47:04 PM EDT
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Noro-Virsus for EVERYONE! POOP THREAD. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 8:50:16 PM EDT
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Just think of the freezer/refrigerator space, how many kitchens, laundry facilities, holding tanks for water and sewage...what is the draft on this...? |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:03:48 PM EDT
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https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/cruise-2.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=940&h=613 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/6e/91/2f6e91ff767bd0e5fc26ed9161e0249e.jpg http://www.cruisemapper.com/images/ships/1730-b6c013d2a22.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/10/20/32122A1500000578-3486357-image-a-10_1457640743078.jpg BTW, I still like the aesthetics of the Titanic. The new one? Butt ugly. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:15:56 PM EDT
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I took this ship to the 1973 solar eclipse. She got shot up during the Falklands war as a troop ship, but survived and was scrapped in 1997-1998 in Pakistan.
(1737 passengers as a cruise ship) 
I climbed up inside the mast to that little platform. Fortunately I didn't get caught. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:18:18 PM EDT
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8k?
Holy fuck. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:24:50 PM EDT
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8k? Holy fuck. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:28:41 PM EDT
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I’m not an expert, but they do draft a fairly sizable amount of waters. The symphony draws almost 31 feet. They have a fuckton of fuel and water onboard that are in the lowest parts of the ship to lower its CG. They also have ballast tanks that can be filled or emptied, based on the conditions, etc. All the supplies, like the food, drinks, etc. that aren’t at the bars or restaurants are kept very near to the waterline or below it. The amount of both on a ship like this would shock you. Lots of weight. They also have a fairly awesome stabilizer system onboard. I took a behind the scenes tour on the Serenade of the Seas last month. From what I remember, the stabilizers are like big wings under water that stabilize and can be manipulated like ailerons to control the ship a bit. They extend like 30 feet or something off both sides of the ship underwater when deployed. When you combine all that, the ship can roll something like 30 degrees before she runs into trouble. There isn’t much out there that is going to push a ship to 20 degrees, let alone 30. They steer around hurricanes and large storms. And while rogue waves do hit these ships every once in a while (the Norwegian Dawn got clobbered by one in 2005), they don’t sink ships like in the Poseidon Adventure. It would take something colossal or colossal negligence to roll one over Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How the heck are these things not top heavy? They have a fuckton of fuel and water onboard that are in the lowest parts of the ship to lower its CG. They also have ballast tanks that can be filled or emptied, based on the conditions, etc. All the supplies, like the food, drinks, etc. that aren’t at the bars or restaurants are kept very near to the waterline or below it. The amount of both on a ship like this would shock you. Lots of weight. They also have a fairly awesome stabilizer system onboard. I took a behind the scenes tour on the Serenade of the Seas last month. From what I remember, the stabilizers are like big wings under water that stabilize and can be manipulated like ailerons to control the ship a bit. They extend like 30 feet or something off both sides of the ship underwater when deployed. When you combine all that, the ship can roll something like 30 degrees before she runs into trouble. There isn’t much out there that is going to push a ship to 20 degrees, let alone 30. They steer around hurricanes and large storms. And while rogue waves do hit these ships every once in a while (the Norwegian Dawn got clobbered by one in 2005), they don’t sink ships like in the Poseidon Adventure. It would take something colossal or colossal negligence to roll one over 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:33:48 PM EDT
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According to a documentary I saw a few years ago on the Royal Caribbean Majesty of the Seas (I think thats the name) They Construct the hull from steel and everythng else from Aluminum. They explained this was necessary to keep the vessel from tipping over. 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:34:57 PM EDT
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No one needs a cruise ship that big. - Mantra of the current period. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:37:13 PM EDT
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Digging that robot bartender.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:38:48 PM EDT
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18 life boats are enough for 8,000 people? Quote HistoryQuoted:
18 life boats are enough for 8,000 people? 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:40:14 PM EDT
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228,000 tons? Yikes! A battleship from WW I was only about 20,000 tons. A WW II battleship could be from 30,000 to 50,000 tons plus. At 228,000 tons that's bigger than the Yamato or the Midway.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:42:08 PM EDT
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Saw a documentary on it somewhere... IIRC, there are two banks of lifeboats, and they're HUUUUGE. Not the whaleboats like Titanic had. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:45:03 PM EDT
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Nope.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:46:01 PM EDT
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I was thinking more like this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/307202/52A33970-D89E-40B1-862C-535E1FFE01C6-497044.JPG 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:50:25 PM EDT
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Symphony of the Seas cruise ship deck plan has a total of 2759 staterooms for 5518 passengers (max capacity is 6370 guests), served by 2300 crew/staff. The ship has 16 passenger accessible decks (out of 18), 26 lounges and bars, 24 elevators, 9-deck-high Zip Line, 2 rock-climbing walls, 2 FlowRiders, a total of 19 pools. (including 4 swimming pools, plus 1 for kids), 9 jacuzzies (2 cantilevered).
  What's New And Exciting About Royal Caribbean's Symphony Of The Seas Symphony Of The Seas deck plans. Link |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:51:51 PM EDT
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30 foot draft is so it can get through the Panama Canal.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:56:34 PM EDT
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I’ve been it’s sister ship, the Oasis. Both amazing and awe inspiring. Only draw back is it’s geared toward excitement and energy. Hardly anywhere to relax on the whole thing.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 9:58:59 PM EDT
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30 foot draft is so it can get through the Panama Canal. 
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:03:15 PM EDT
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I wish it a long, successful, and safe operational life. However, I really want to see a CGI of it sinking.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:06:03 PM EDT
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Lots of slutty cougars and blow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is a lot of buffets and swingers.
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:07:47 PM EDT
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Norwegian Epic on the other hand.... @aksig |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:10:23 PM EDT
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I refer to Carnival Cruises as “Walmart in a Can.” Mrs Rabinowitz and I have been on 4 cruises together (she went on more with her late husband). We have done two Carnivals out of Galveston, a Princess to Alaska out of Seattle, and a Norwegian around the HI Islands. All have been fun. Alaska was rough but the scenery was spectacular. Carnivals have their ups and downs.....but they are still fun. Norwegian was very sedate. The excitement was flying over the volcano in a chopper. I’m ready to go again. But Mrs R started HRT. The idea of being trapped in a room with a 60-year-old red head with raging hormones is frightening.....in a happy way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Being trapped on a ship with 8000 People of Walmart is a horror movie, not a vacation... Mrs Rabinowitz and I have been on 4 cruises together (she went on more with her late husband). We have done two Carnivals out of Galveston, a Princess to Alaska out of Seattle, and a Norwegian around the HI Islands. All have been fun. Alaska was rough but the scenery was spectacular. Carnivals have their ups and downs.....but they are still fun. Norwegian was very sedate. The excitement was flying over the volcano in a chopper. I’m ready to go again. But Mrs R started HRT. The idea of being trapped in a room with a 60-year-old red head with raging hormones is frightening.....in a happy way. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:17:00 PM EDT
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What does it cost to build something like that?
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:19:57 PM EDT
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I’ve been it’s sister ship, the Oasis. Both amazing and awe inspiring. Only draw back is it’s geared toward excitement and energy. Hardly anywhere to relax on the whole thing. |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 10:54:03 PM EDT
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You take a minimum 7 day cruise, but preferably 10 day or 14 if it's available. The longer the cruise, the more expensive it is, and the fewer trashy people will be on it. Stay away from the 3 day cruises like the plague. It's the same reason that the nicest and most expensive ski resorts have the most polite guests. The trash is priced out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Being trapped on a ship with 8000 People of Walmart is a horror movie, not a vacation... It's the same reason that the nicest and most expensive ski resorts have the most polite guests. The trash is priced out. |
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Posted: 3/29/2018 12:33:43 AM EDT
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Nice timing. Only two weeks to the Titanic anniversary! I've been on a few cruises, but the ships were grey, we all had to dress alike, and the food wasn't great. Oh, and no women.
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