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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:34:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like their equivalent of our " nutrition facts" label a bit better with the E codes. The nationalized/government train systems don't suck. Amtrak is an embarrassment for a first world country. Either get the government out completely and let it die or fix it. Decent and commonly availible low alcohol beers. Train jokes from UK comedians are as cliche as "airline food is bad" used to be. Maybe UK is an outlier and the rest of Europe does them well, but the trains are the most thoroughly and universally mocked subject I've ever heard in my life. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:34:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laughs in 9% vat Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 20% VAT is pretty sweet, to pay for more .Gov freebies. Laughs in 9% vat Chuckles in 0% VAT because we don’t have it. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:34:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many EU countries treat firearm mufflers as inexpensive, unregulated over the counter safety accessories. This |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:39:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Personally I'm quite fond of their gun laws, would love to move to Europe just so I can own an AR-15 or AK  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:41:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many EU countries treat firearm mufflers as inexpensive, unregulated over the counter safety accessories. But do those same countries treat firearms as a whole? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:42:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: (info may be dated) 14 years in Europe total. - When you buy a British lottery ticket, the tax is in the cost of the ticket. You win, you take home the entire jackpot, in cash, on a pallet if that's the way you want it. A guy did it that way while we were there. - Europeans on the whole dress much better than Americans. They're quiet a bit slimmer, as well, though that's probably changing. Getting off an aircraft in America was a rude shock...I'd never seen so many morbidly obese people in my life. - The attitude towards work is real. There were 16 nations represented on Geilenkirchen. Mid-July, the US and Canada ran the place, because everyone else was on holiday. Our NATO secretary told me she could identify Americans and Kanucks by the speed of their footfalls...we generally walk much faster (her desk was right at the entrance to the commanders office, at the end of a long hall). I watched her do it. Pretty impressive. - German work standards are very high. Damn near everything requires a certification, and for the most part shit gets fixed right the first time. Our Dutch movers considered themselves "professionals". They took out an upper story window, installed a mobile elevator and got stuff up on the second floor I wouldn't have believed. Clean, pressed overalls, on-time and sober. They don't pick up a couple of guys from the Lowes parking lot every morning. They were actually fairly impressed by how our stuff arrived (I tipped the Florida crew generously). The foreman told me "Please convey our best wishes and compliments to our American colleagues"...and he meant it. Truly professional movers would be the SHIT. I saw a youtube video of how seriously they take that job in Japan a while back. Hiring movers here BLOWS. Wildly expensive to get some rude, uneducated (not saying you need an advanced education to pick heavy stuff up, but DAMN were some of the guys I have ever dealt with retarded), unprofessional assholes who don't give a fuck about not damaging your stuff or the dwelling they are barging through. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:43:11 PM EDT
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I know they have very efficient oil fired boilers.
Preheats the fuel oil before being injected into the burner. Wish I could afford one. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:45:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing I'm glad that stays in Europe is ridiculous high utility and gas prices. Not interested in paying seven dollars a gallon for gas or 350% more for an electric bill. They can keep their crooked teeth too.   |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:47:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget to "Fat Shame" all the women so they stay deliciously hot. Just transfer flights in Madrid, Rome, Paris or any major European airport and you will understand! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Eat a much better diet and not be fat; even that's changing though unfortunately. Don't forget to "Fat Shame" all the women so they stay deliciously hot. Just transfer flights in Madrid, Rome, Paris or any major European airport and you will understand! Even in NYC, Shitcago and Atl you can pick out the Euro chicks. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:47:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bush Alaska has all that! the bush people are more my people.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:50:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish their culture of non-tipping would become more common here. Anti tipping butthurt in gd Allways makes me smile Some of you guys should try it, paying rent with one bar shift allways makes me smile |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:52:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NHRA has their JR Dragster program, which gets kids as young as seven racing. It's been a big success. Google search found example photo: https://kinayems.com/assets/img/sb/2015.Misdemeanor.jpg Which is cool and all, but these are 7yos in Italy  Imagine even suggesting this here?  Who needs "health and safety" when there are teams of lawyers hovering over every struggling racetrack or even lot owner. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:53:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted: Bush Alaska has all that! /quote] i turned down a job in los anchorage a few years ago. the bush people are more my people. /quote]Tons of MT people in Bush AK. A few run back to civilization but most stick it out.  |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:54:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bush Alaska has all that! /quote] i turned down a job in los anchorage a few years ago. the bush people are more my people. /quote]Tons of MT people in Bush AK. A few run back to civilization but most stick it out. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:56:10 PM EDT
[#15]
I like the vacation one.
In the Germanic countries the roads are immaculate. In Switzerland the streets have no cracks or potholes. Not that I have a car.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:58:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truly professional movers would be the SHIT. I saw a youtube video of how seriously they take that job in Japan a while back. Hiring movers here BLOWS. Wildly expensive to get some rude, uneducated (not saying you need an advanced education to pick heavy stuff up, but DAMN were some of the guys I have ever dealt with retarded), unprofessional assholes who don't give a fuck about not damaging your stuff or the dwelling they are barging through.  call up joyce van lines. it will cost you but it's worth it. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:58:32 PM EDT
[#17]
More tits on tv
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Posted: 3/13/2021 2:59:14 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know three Yanks who moved here, I don’t know any Swede who moved to the US permanently. Not counting my sister in law, ive known 5, though one may be norwegian, cause he seems happier. All cutomers. One died about a year back, was a nice guy resturant owner in CA but retired here. Imagine being from a place so shitty new mexico is an improvement... |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:00:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFart at high speed. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:03:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't have our puritanical obsession about nudity being the ultimate taboo. American media will depict the most brutal and gory forms of violence imaginable but a naked woman? That might be disturbing to the kids. And we wonder why we're the ones with the largest mass violence problem amongst advanced countries. If porn is the only time nudity is avalible then that warps the way the human body is seen, as only being a dirty thing to always be ashamed of. 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:06:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know three Yanks who moved here, I don't know any Swede who moved to the US permanently. Lots of Swedes in Alaska. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:06:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:09:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Most of Europe gets a minimum of 4 weeks vacation. After 14 years I'm still at 10 days.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:10:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Work/life balance, trade guilds, public education, and public transportation.
I don’t want to mirror Europe’s work ethic...but we can take some lessons from them. The goofy social customs during the work day are not needed. Employers expecting 50-70 hrs of work for extended periods of time from their work force isn’t healthy and I wish we would re-think that model. Riding on those coattails, vacation and even sabbaticals are part of their work culture. Time off is viewed just like any other benefit and not an imposition. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:12:11 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of Europe gets a minimum of 4 weeks vacation. After 14 years I'm still at 10 days. what line of work are you in? i just started a new gig with 5 weeks PTO/yr with the option to buy another week each year. i have no life outside of work so i'll be selling back my 5 weeks each year. 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:12:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: England has a lot of fatties
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:19:02 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the Germanic countries the roads are immaculate. In Switzerland the streets have no cracks or potholes. Because they make driving and owning a car too expensive? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:20:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We don’t need a military to secure our capital from ourselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't have a real military and make us pay for all of it. We don’t need a military to secure our capital from ourselves.  Also to the OP's question - previously I would have said "generational war" but apparently they've skipped one or two so far. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:20:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they make driving and owning a car too expensive? most mericans shouldn't be allowed to drive and/or reproduce.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:21:55 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, that isn't because of TV, it's because of inner-city kids going feral from fatherlessness because Uncle Sugar cuts off Mama's welfare if Dad is around. I don't disagree that that's a very large part of crime here. But when some white kid shoots up his school and it turns out he spent the last decade in his room pumped full of mind altering pharmaceuticals watching Internet porn and spending hours playing realistic murder simulators...that kind of environment is not exactly promoting well adjusted individuals out into society. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:28:34 PM EDT
[#31]
Those fuckers NEVER work. They’re always on “holiday”. The governments and euro-companies pay them to take off ... with their own money... which is particularly ironic.
I work for euros right now. It’s frustrating to try and get stuff done with half of anyone unavailable at any given time. This is why the eurosphere is in decline. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:29:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Those fuckers NEVER work. They're always on "holiday". The governments and euro-companies pay them to take off ... with their own money... which is particularly ironic. I work for euros right now. It's frustrating to try and get stuff done with half of anyone unavailable at any given time. This is why the eurosphere is in decline. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 3:30:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are subsidized heavily by the government. Anyone can make a train profitable with free government cheese. Trains are for freight Get in your car if you want to go somewhere. Are roads not subsidized in the US? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:29:26 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't disagree that that's a very large part of crime here. But when some white kid shoots up his school and it turns out he spent the last decade in his room pumped full of mind altering pharmaceuticals watching Internet porn and spending hours playing realistic murder simulators...that kind of environment is not exactly promoting well adjusted individuals out into society. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol, that isn't because of TV, it's because of inner-city kids going feral from fatherlessness because Uncle Sugar cuts off Mama's welfare if Dad is around. I don't disagree that that's a very large part of crime here. But when some white kid shoots up his school and it turns out he spent the last decade in his room pumped full of mind altering pharmaceuticals watching Internet porn and spending hours playing realistic murder simulators...that kind of environment is not exactly promoting well adjusted individuals out into society. Those are actually so rare as to be statistically insignificant. Stop believing the MSM. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:30:45 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm tired of fucking people saying we should be more like Europe. It is usually followed by some drivel about not owning guns, police not carrying guns, or some other bullshit.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:31:59 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm tired of fucking people saying we should be more like Europe. It is usually followed by some drivel about not owning guns, police not carrying guns, or some other bullshit. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:41:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Being generally less litigious, at least on a level that could have an effect on the average person, would be nice.
In contrast, at least the actions of big government tend to be much more closely watched here. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:42:22 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm not very familiar with Europeans, nearly all of my "travel time" was in Asia.
Speaking of my most recent trip, Indonesians have a lot up on Americans. 1). Very friendly or at least courteous. I honestly did not meet a single unfriendly person and I am a very out-going person. 2). Nearly all are physically fit. I'm not turned on by very many Asian girls but nearly all of them were hot just because they weren't fat. 3). I was tipping every store clerk I met, because they'd knock each other down to get to you and do everything for you! They wore their uniforms with pride. 4). They do a job like gang busters! I found one German cockroach in the rented apartment and my fiance called the owner the next day. The day after that here comes a security guard, two or three workers, and the bugman. All in uniform and all took off their shoes at the door. 5). They dress nice. No pajamas and flip flops. (In our case, we had the bugs under control, our first "date" was to the department store to get glue boards and roach bait, the exterminator actually complimented the actions). So what could Americans do? Work harder Care about their appearance Get fit Be friendly to others |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:45:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being generally less litigious, at least on a level that could have an effect on the average person, would be nice. In contrast, at least the actions of big government tend to be much more closely watched here. European government is far less partisan and more competent. We should aspire to that too. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:46:18 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what could Americans do? Work harder Care about their appearance Get fit Be friendly to others never gonna happen in merica.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:49:32 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are actually so rare as to be statistically insignificant. Stop believing the MSM. Statistically rare huh? Take a look at the current state of young men in Japan. Being a porn addicted shut in is so common they even have a name for it. Their culture is not as externally violent but they kill themselves at much higher numbers. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:51:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Statistically rare huh? Take a look at the current state of young men in Japan. Being a porn addicted shut in is so common they even have a name for it. Their culture is not as externally violent but they kill themselves at much higher numbers. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:52:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had to look it up but........damn that looks good! One example: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Freluctantentertainer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F02%2FBest-Bacon-Breakfast-Charcuterie-Board-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Charcuterie doesn’t make you fat. I had to look it up but........damn that looks good! One example: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Freluctantentertainer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F02%2FBest-Bacon-Breakfast-Charcuterie-Board-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 It’s lovely, but that’s an American “charcuterie plate”. It’s not the same thing. It’s wonderful, but French charcuterie is even finer and a simple part of every day. I miss it so much. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:01:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s lovely, but that’s an American “charcuterie plate”. It’s not the same thing. It’s wonderful, but French charcuterie is even finer and a simple part of every day. I miss it so much. Could you supply a picture of the kind of selection you refer to? I would like to see that. Already got a few ideas from this one. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:03:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Eat less, walk more.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:07:42 PM EDT
[#46]
I can't really think of anything.
And it's not because they don't collectively do anything better than we do (they do), it's more that almost everything I like about them ("them" being a bit broad, since we're talking about several countries...) tends to be something I can just adopt myself, or already have. America is kind of what you make of it. If you want to be miserable, you'll find plenty of reasons to be - especially if your attention is focused on people who aren't...you. If you want to love it, you will. I mean, I can't will our population into being thinner, but I can make sure I'm not one of the fat ones (and I have). I can't will our people into dressing nicer when they're in public, but I can board an airplane or go to the grocery store without being in sweats and flip flops. I can't force us to collectively value our free time and vacations a little more, but I can work for somebody who does (and I do). That sort of thing. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:07:53 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you think they pay for that "free" dental care? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One thing I’m glad that stays in Europe is ridiculous high utility and gas prices. Not interested in paying seven dollars a gallon for gas or 350% more for an electric bill. They can keep their crooked teeth too. How do you think they pay for that "free" dental care? ^^^This |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:11:49 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you get shitty service leave a 0% tip. Tell the waiter or waitress that they sucked ass and tell the manager. If I do happen to go to a crappy restaurant like Olive Garden I will talk to the hostess and let them know that I’d like to be seated with the best waiter or waitress. Very simple. Also remember that the EU charges a 20% VAT tax on most food items served in restaurants cafés, airports or takeout. Quote HistoryQuoted: If you get shitty service leave a 0% tip. Tell the waiter or waitress that they sucked ass and tell the manager. If I do happen to go to a crappy restaurant like Olive Garden I will talk to the hostess and let them know that I’d like to be seated with the best waiter or waitress. Very simple. Also remember that the EU charges a 20% VAT tax on most food items served in restaurants cafés, airports or takeout. Quoted: Quoted: I wish their culture of non-tipping would become more common here. Why, because you want shitty service here in the States. I can promise you that there is no real difference in service. Well, one difference is the obviously false "I want to be your friend and know all about your day" crap that you get from American staff. In Europe, they just do their job - which includes being civil and polite. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:12:53 PM EDT
[#49]
*Reads all this nonsense about "free healthcare". Puts down his coffee and cracks nuckles*
It isn't free. It is in fact, very very expensive. I'm European. Hell, I'm Belgian, we practically invented Europe. Sorry 'bout that.  Anyway. I'm going to fuck up this thread, by turning it around. What could us Europeans learn from Americans; -The road to success is an individual thing. It's up to you. If you want to succeed, you can have it all. But you have to want it, and you have to work for it. -The Social System is sucking us dry. In Belgium (an extreme case, I know) we pay 40,2% tax on our wages. After tax, my accountant wife makes 1600EUR or 1900USD. I take home 2200EUR or 2700USD as a SNCO. If you don't work for whatever reason, you have a guaranteed minimum wage of 1200EUR or 1400USD. That is BEFORE benefits, social security or assistance, or unemployment pay. On everything else, we pay a VAT of 21%. Twenty. One. Percent. Yeah our healthcare is free. But we pay for it. Also, European open border policy is a deathsentence. Asylumseekers set one foot on our soil and they're in. Free healthcare. Free housing. Free utilities. Free this. Free that. Meanwhile, a nursing home is quickly becoming unpayable for retirees that worked all their life, and paid their taxes. -Our military is a joke. As NATO member we pledge to spend 2% of our GDP on Defence. We are required to do so. We consistently fail to meet this obligation. One day we will pay the price for this. And it's not going to be pretty.  To you all. No matter how shit your personal situation is, no matter how bad US politics get, remember this. You have freedom. Real freedom. You might not think you do, you can even say it's under attack. But you still have it. Don't change, don't try to emulate Europe. The world needs a balancing factor, and you're it. Still. EDIT; but yeah, eat less, eat more healthy, and exercise more. Not a month goes by without me spending an evening researching how I could make a move to America. If the stars ever align, I'd make that move in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 5:17:48 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a month goes by without me spending an evening researching how I could make a move to America. If the stars ever align, I'd make that move in a heartbeat. |
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