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The idea of living in the cool quiet mountains is quaint and appealing but the reality is that building a house on a rock pile is a pain in the ass.
Walking up hill is a pain in the ass. Living in wooded terrain is hot and no breeze and a pain in the ass. Snakes, bugs, varmints, methbillys, and long drives to ANYTHING, are a pain in the ass. Digging a trench or septic tank or fence post is a pain in the ass. It's not for old people. |
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WV will probably be the last state in the area to turn blue.
Liberals hate all things WV, so they are not moving there anytime soon. And constitutional carry. |
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You won't want to live in Gatlinburg or any other part of Sevier County unless you really like driving around with a shitpile of tuned-out tourists. View Quote I'd rate the traffic on par with I70 into Denver on Sunday evening. |
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Have no clue, as you know meth and meth-billies are a major problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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TN sales tax isn't really that bad. It has two portions: a State imposed 7% and an additional amount of up to 2.75% set by the county. So, the highest it can be is 9.75%. In my county, it's 9.5%, which seems about average. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the lack of a personal property tax related to vehicle registrations in TN. A lot of states, to include FL, if I recall correctly, charge an amount to register your vehicle each year based on the value of the car. The more the State says the car should be worth, the more you pay-every year. It's not that way in TN. Here, we pay a fairly low registration fee and county wheel tax. For example, in my county, it costs $104 each year to renew my tags, with vanity tags being more. Most counties are less expensive to register your car. A small handful of counties in the mid state do have emissions inspections, but the majority do not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"You ain't from round here, are you boy?" Do you pay sales tax on Land purchases? Buying (or building) a house? One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the lack of a personal property tax related to vehicle registrations in TN. A lot of states, to include FL, if I recall correctly, charge an amount to register your vehicle each year based on the value of the car. The more the State says the car should be worth, the more you pay-every year. It's not that way in TN. Here, we pay a fairly low registration fee and county wheel tax. For example, in my county, it costs $104 each year to renew my tags, with vanity tags being more. Most counties are less expensive to register your car. A small handful of counties in the mid state do have emissions inspections, but the majority do not. |
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I moved from WNC to ETN. I like it here. People are pretty tolerant here so we get our share of "liberals." Most are not radical though. I find ETN much more conservative than NC. It's a beautiful place and a good place to live.
If you want to live in a beautiful place that is sometimes pretty frigid in deep winter. I have 2 acres on the Watauga River 15 miles from Boone. (There is probably an EE thread if it hasn't been moved to the archives.) Come to think of it NC could use some "right thinking" imigrants. LOL! Good Luck in your search. |
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Well said-and true. Of the states you've mentioned TN is my favorite. Johnson City might be worth a look. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I’ve found Johnson City to be fairly liberal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You won't want to live in Gatlinburg or any other part of Sevier County unless you really like driving around with a shitpile of tuned-out tourists. Of the states you've mentioned TN is my favorite. Johnson City might be worth a look. |
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NO! If there's one spot to survive the zombie apocalypse east of the Mississippi Robbinsville/Graham County would be it. Only a couple roads in and out, middle of nowhere next to nothing. That being said, thats the biggest issue there's nothing there. I live in WNC and love being in the middle of nowhere but I also enjoy going out and finding a decent meal and having a beer. That aint happening there, because the county is Dry! Except the meadery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Personally, I’d buy a house right outside of Robbinsville NC. It’s a quiet little town that sees a lot of automotive and motorcycle traffic due to its proximity to us129. Then again, I love all things car and motorbike, it doesn’t bother me. |
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I don’t see how that would be possible. Even if it’s 4% more, $100,000 worth of purchases would only be $4000(additional). Do you pay sales tax on Land purchases? Buying (or building) a house? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"You ain't from round here, are you boy?" Do you pay sales tax on Land purchases? Buying (or building) a house? https://smartasset.com/taxes/tennessee-tax-calculator There is probably a certain amount of deductions etc when filing state income taxes, on 60k TN was about 2k cheaper l, all together, than the provilidge of living in GA. Really it is not a big deal if you are having to drive lots and lots more to go shopping or whatever. ETA: but GA also has this brutal tax when you buy a new car, some guy at a job site the other day told me it was like $2k to register something like a new camry! Like fuck YOU working families amirite! No wonder the rich are doing that thing w registering their cars to Montana corporations |
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https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/
@Flysc @USCG_CPO Note that data is from 2010 census. Correlation to crime rate maps is 110% Wish my jax was more like detroit or charlotte or other places where there was more simple and clear delineation. Main problem in jax is all the damn apartmebt complexes sprinkled about that become section 8 or whatever. Would like to generally decrease my chances of day to day interactions with lower class (most)... well ill stop right there. Course, there be methbillies in them hills. Wonder if theyvare apt to hold it against you if you shoot their tweaker cousin while breaking into your house, or if they figure it was just fair play?? |
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It was solid Dem for as long as can remember, up until recently. The king of pork Robert Byrd days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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WV will probably be the last state in the area to turn blue. Liberals hate all things WV, so they are not moving there anytime soon. And constitutional carry. Now the dem party is 100% fuck the working/middle class/whites and the republican party is 50% all those things, so long as we can keep sheldon adleson from bribing trump to start a war in syria or wrest immigration policy from the goddammed chamber of commerce |
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Only mountains Id ever move to are the Rockies or Cascades. Im already as far east as I ever care to go.
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It’s strange that you’re factoring in those elevation differentials. They’re negligible. Your property’s exposure (NSE or W) will have much more of an impact. If you don’t get sun, it will be like being thousands of feet higher View Quote Thank you so micu for this insight!! So what youbare saying is that if your place is on the north side of a slope it will be like living mich higher on the S side? Or on the S side higher up it will feel like being at lower elevation? Feel free to explain in more detail, thanks |
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I know nothing about TN, but I grew up in N GA and now live in WNC. If gun laws matter GA is best. Taxes looks like TN wins. Amount to do, most towns and mountains WNC wins. Depending how much snow, cool weather you want you can look at the Boone area and Highland Plateau, which is Highlands, Cashiers (pronounced Cashers), Glenville, Sapphire. Ive got a little farm by Highlands which is about 1.25 hours from Asheville and 2 from the Atlanta area, it never really gets above 80* and we got a little over 2' of snow last year, sometimes we'll get three. There's a lot of money around downtown Highlands and Cashiers, but if you get a couple miles outside of the towns prices drop significantly. Glenville (Lake Glennville) is the highest lake east of the Mississippi. The area offers awesome outdoor activities and has a pretty good restaurants and nightlife, if thats important. Close to there is Sylva and Franklin, both nice mountain towns, Sylva has the college there and a little more to do. Other areas in WNC is like you said Boone, Waynesville is a awesome little town. Its about 20 miles from Asheville, sits at almost 3k in elevation. The downtown is great and the county its in, has the most peaks above 5k feet in the Appalachian Mountains. Murphy, Bryson City, Brevard and West Jefferson all are towns to look at. In GA, Clayton (Rabun County) is awesome. Blairsville and Blue Ridge are other options. On edit... The amount of people worried about snow. Go back to Florida. That's one thing that makes this place awesome. I wish I could post pictures, Ive got a couple amazing ones from last years storm. View Quote |
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The idea of living in the cool quiet mountains is quaint and appealing but the reality is that building a house on a rock pile is a pain in the ass. Walking up hill is a pain in the ass. Living in wooded terrain is hot and no breeze and a pain in the ass. Snakes, bugs, varmints, methbillys, and long drives to ANYTHING, are a pain in the ass. Digging a trench or septic tank or fence post is a pain in the ass. It's not for old people. View Quote |
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Good luck driving around. I recommend finding a gazetter and the most details street and road maps you can find to avoid the road from Pigeon Forge til you are clear of the entire mess. I'd rate the traffic on par with I70 into Denver on Sunday evening. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You won't want to live in Gatlinburg or any other part of Sevier County unless you really like driving around with a shitpile of tuned-out tourists. I'd rate the traffic on par with I70 into Denver on Sunday evening. |
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I moved from WNC to ETN. I like it here. People are pretty tolerant here so we get our share of "liberals." Most are not radical though. I find ETN much more conservative than NC. It's a beautiful place and a good place to live. If you want to live in a beautiful place that is sometimes pretty frigid in deep winter. I have 2 acres on the Watauga River 15 miles from Boone. (There is probably an EE thread if it hasn't been moved to the archives.) Come to think of it NC could use some "right thinking" imigrants. LOL! Good Luck in your search. View Quote |
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The idea of living in the cool quiet mountains is quaint and appealing but the reality is that building a house on a rock pile is a pain in the ass. Walking up hill is a pain in the ass. Living in wooded terrain is hot and no breeze and a pain in the ass. Snakes, bugs, varmints, methbillys, and long drives to ANYTHING, are a pain in the ass. Digging a trench or septic tank or fence post is a pain in the ass. It's not for old people. And yes, the winds blow. And blow. And blow. |
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They don't welcome, it's still small town/who you know in a lot of places They'll tolerate you, but you and your kids will always be immigrants. Maybe even your grandkids. View Quote |
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Wait until after election day to decide.
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Wait until after election day to decide. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/VIDEO-GA-Governor-Candidate-Stacy-Abrams-Nailed-on-her-Law-to-CONFISCATE-AR15-and-Assault-Weapons View Quote |
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Quoted: Was kind of thinking of living somewhere in TN close to boone, hence mountain city or Trade, TN. Boone is the only town In E US over 10k people over 3k feet. Would probably be big enough for the wife to be the place to go to to shop, take kids for homeschool group activities or private school etc. plus ypu get a bit of a sales tax break maybe. View Quote Personally I don't mind driving through there but there is no way I could be surrounded by almost nothing but Liberal college kids all the time. |
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Just left Hendersonville, NC for life in Idaho. Happy wife...
If I was going back I'd be looking 20 miles south, at the higher foothills on the NC/SC border (well prior to Travelers Rest). You're still in the mountains, but within 30 minutes of Greenville, SC (which is a booming metro area, with jobs out the yin-yang). That keeps you in the mild summers (SC is hot as hell), but out of the worst of the winters (I went to ASU, Boone can get serious snow). You're in deep blue country and surrounded by some of the nicest people in the country. You're also well clear of the beggars on every street corner in Asheville, and the tattooed obesity in Hendersonville. The people in H'ville are great, but the lingering poverty in the Appalachians is a real thing. Also - Brevard is beautiful...Steve Martin spends a lot of time there. Highlands is full of rich people with second homes. Check the climate data. It's in a weird semi-almost-tropical belt that gets huge amounts of rainfall. |
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I have considered WV, but the opioid epidemic there gives me pause. WV has the highest rate of deaths due to opioid abuse of any state in the country. This makes me wonder about the crime rate.
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@NoVaGator Thank you so micu for this insight!! So what youbare saying is that if your place is on the north side of a slope it will be like living mich higher on the S side? Or on the S side higher up it will feel like being at lower elevation? Feel free to explain in more detail, thanks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It’s strange that you’re factoring in those elevation differentials. They’re negligible. Your property’s exposure (NSE or W) will have much more of an impact. If you don’t get sun, it will be like being thousands of feet higher Thank you so micu for this insight!! So what youbare saying is that if your place is on the north side of a slope it will be like living mich higher on the S side? Or on the S side higher up it will feel like being at lower elevation? Feel free to explain in more detail, thanks You're also going to experience orographic lift living on mountains. (leeward vs windward makes a big difference) Temperature wise, you'll be somewhat cooler throughout the year at higher elevations... it's about 4 deg per 1000 feet here... not sure what it is there due to the impact of humidity. The elevation differences in the areas that you're considering won't have a noticeable difference at all from a physiological standpoint (how your lungs feel) although it might have a psychological impact. |
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I lived in Johnson City for a while in the mid 90's, a very nice area.
I need long range shooting land so I'm moving west rather than east otherwise I would consider east Tennessee again. |
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Just got back from a week at Pigeon Forge, TN. Beautiful country. Hit at just the right time for the fall leaves
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Mountains are nice to visit, but as others have mentioned you’ll have snow to deal with in the winter. Always sounds like a great thing until you have to drive in it on a twisting road. I live at about 1500-1600 ft elevation on the Cumberland Plateau and the winters are very mild. Lot of public land within short driving distance and solidly conservative. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/420318/9D6184BD-E2D5-4AA0-BAAE-568BC1D0AE26_jpeg-726186.JPG View Quote |
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Gilliam and Abrams. What a combo, yeesh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wait until after election day to decide. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/VIDEO-GA-Governor-Candidate-Stacy-Abrams-Nailed-on-her-Law-to-CONFISCATE-AR15-and-Assault-Weapons |
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Wait until after election day to decide. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/VIDEO-GA-Governor-Candidate-Stacy-Abrams-Nailed-on-her-Law-to-CONFISCATE-AR15-and-Assault-Weapons View Quote |
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Just left Hendersonville, NC for life in Idaho. Happy wife... If I was going back I'd be looking 20 miles south, at the higher foothills on the NC/SC border (well prior to Travelers Rest). You're still in the mountains, but within 30 minutes of Greenville, SC (which is a booming metro area, with jobs out the yin-yang). That keeps you in the mild summers (SC is hot as hell), but out of the worst of the winters (I went to ASU, Boone can get serious snow). You're in deep blue country and surrounded by some of the nicest people in the country. You're also well clear of the beggars on every street corner in Asheville, and the tattooed obesity in Hendersonville. The people in H'ville are great, but the lingering poverty in the Appalachians is a real thing. Also - Brevard is beautiful...Steve Martin spends a lot of time there. Highlands is full of rich people with second homes. Check the climate data. It's in a weird semi-almost-tropical belt that gets huge amounts of rainfall. View Quote And maybe Boone is not a good target if a big part of its ~10k pop is just the students. Not sure if they count |
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TN was my destination because of no Income Tax, Retiree Tax friendly, low property tax, cheap mountain land but it's now the primary resettling destination for slime oozing out of NY & NJ.
A friend of mine, his fiancée's folks retired to TN and they said prices are already starting to skyrocket (for built-up areas, not rough mountain property). I'm starting to rethink my retirement plan of buying remote property and am thinking maybe the way to go is nomad - buy an all terrain RV-type vehicle and just travel the land seeking out injustice and lonely mothers and widder wimminz... And as for Memphis being a libtard shithole, NC has Asheville, Charlotte, Greensboro and GA has The ATL and probably more urban dumps than NC and TN combined! |
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TN was my destination because of no Income Tax, Retiree Tax friendly, low property tax, cheap mountain land but it's now the primary resettling destination for slime oozing out of NY & NJ. A friend of mine, his fiancée's folks retired to TN and they said prices are already starting to skyrocket (for built-up areas, not rough mountain property). I'm starting to rethink my retirement plan of buying remote property and am thinking maybe the way to go is nomad - buy an all terrain RV-type vehicle and just travel the land seeking out injustice and lonely mothers and widder wimminz... And as for Memphis being a libtard shithole, NC has Asheville, Charlotte, Greensboro and GA has The ATL and probably more urban dumps than NC and TN combined! View Quote |
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I always wanted live in the mountains, and somewhere w/ large public lands that are not flat pinewoods/swamps, AND MILDER SUMMERS! Wife is always wanted to stay close to here mother. For reasons that I won't go into she feeling at liberty from that. We were looking for a place anyway, she says, maybe we just move to the (appalachian) mountains. Now I am seriously thinking about it... been doing some research. Kids are still very young, FWIW, we are about 40, now or never probably... I can live most anywhere w/ my job probably. Did some research into GA, TN, NC, VA, taxes, voting patterns etc. TN seems pretty compelling, no income tax, overall taxes should be be a little less, all together, little less than FL. NC slightly more, then VA, then GA. The thing I like about TN is that eh 2016 election was not even close, something over 60% voted trump, but what is even more impressive is that less than 35% voted Clinton. And this margin has grown rather than shrunk as the older legacy southern democrats are dying off (or waking up to the fact that the barren godless democrat base wants to try to keep up w/ conservative breeders by flooding our country with masses of incompatible invaders?) plus lots of working people w/ families move to TN I believe. https://i.imgur.com/QyI1Z3P.png GA, VA, NC were all close to 50/50. This makes me feel like my firearms rights are safer in the long term. Can you carry fixed blade daggers etc in TN w/ or w/o a CWL? I am a knife maker(hobbiest)/lover/carrier. GA has some pretty sweet recent knife laws. How about NC & TN?? NC does have some advantages, There are more towns at more elevation in W NC than in NE tip of TN where i would be looking at, near the NC/TN Border. TN: Would like to live up the mountain as high as possible reasonably close to maybe Gatlinburg, Greenville, Johnson City or Bristol, for example: Mountain City. NC: up hill around Boone (~3300) or Ashville perhaps. Bone is the highest city of > 10k E of the Mississippi. Ashville (area) is the highest city of >100k east of the Mississippi, I believe. There are places around boone about 4k feet up. What do you guys think?? View Quote |
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TN was my destination because of no Income Tax, Retiree Tax friendly, low property tax, cheap mountain land but it's now the primary resettling destination for slime oozing out of NY & NJ. A friend of mine, his fiancée's folks retired to TN and they said prices are already starting to skyrocket (for built-up areas, not rough mountain property). I'm starting to rethink my retirement plan of buying remote property and am thinking maybe the way to go is nomad - buy an all terrain RV-type vehicle and just travel the land seeking out injustice and lonely mothers and widder wimminz... And as for Memphis being a libtard shithole, NC has Asheville, Charlotte, Greensboro and GA has The ATL and probably more urban dumps than NC and TN combined! View Quote |
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Quoted: Thats a thought i will look into. Obviously i am looking to live uphill but somewhere reasonably close to a decent sized town or city. And maybe Boone is not a good target if a big part of its ~10k pop is just the students. Not sure if they count View Quote - Research your builder, and make damn sure he has a solid reputation for building in the mountains. Water management is a huge thing...you can't believe the velocity of the that amount of rainfall coming down the side of a mountain. HGTV brought in some fancy-pants outside builder to put up a dream house in Lake Lure. I've been told it had huge problems as a result. - Being on a mountaintop has it's drawbacks. One contractor looked at me and said, "Tad windy up here?" I laughed and told him the wind frequently howled. He said, "There's a reason mountain people live in the hollows..." On the other hand, it would be 90 degrees in Hendersonville (2000 ft). My house (3000 ft) would be 84 or 85 degrees at most. There's a reason George Vanderbilt built Biltmore in Asheville, prior to AC. - Check amenities and services closely - you're not going to have that huge field of highly qualified doctors and dentists, or the cultural and shopping variety. The feeling of isolation can be very strong in the mountains. It really played on my wife. Attached File |
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Don't count on the "cooler summers" thing, it's still hot as hell, other than that, I'd move back to TN if I had to make a choice.
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I always wanted live in the mountains, and somewhere w/ large public lands that are not flat pinewoods/swamps, AND MILDER SUMMERS! Wife is always wanted to stay close to here mother. For reasons that I won't go into she feeling at liberty from that. We were looking for a place anyway, she says, maybe we just move to the (appalachian) mountains. Now I am seriously thinking about it... been doing some research. Kids are still very young, FWIW, we are about 40, now or never probably... I can live most anywhere w/ my job probably. Did some research into GA, TN, NC, VA, taxes, voting patterns etc. TN seems pretty compelling, no income tax, overall taxes should be be a little less, all together, little less than FL. NC slightly more, then VA, then GA. The thing I like about TN is that eh 2016 election was not even close, something over 60% voted trump, but what is even more impressive is that less than 35% voted Clinton. And this margin has grown rather than shrunk as the older legacy southern democrats are dying off (or waking up to the fact that the barren godless democrat base wants to try to keep up w/ conservative breeders by flooding our country with masses of incompatible invaders?) plus lots of working people w/ families move to TN I believe. https://i.imgur.com/QyI1Z3P.png GA, VA, NC were all close to 50/50. This makes me feel like my firearms rights are safer in the long term. Can you carry fixed blade daggers etc in TN w/ or w/o a CWL? I am a knife maker(hobbiest)/lover/carrier. GA has some pretty sweet recent knife laws. How about NC & TN?? NC does have some advantages, There are more towns at more elevation in W NC than in NE tip of TN where i would be looking at, near the NC/TN Border. TN: Would like to live up the mountain as high as possible reasonably close to maybe Gatlinburg, Greenville, Johnson City or Bristol, for example: Mountain City. NC: up hill around Boone (~3300) or Ashville perhaps. Bone is the highest city of > 10k E of the Mississippi. Ashville (area) is the highest city of >100k east of the Mississippi, I believe. There are places around boone about 4k feet up. What do you guys think?? View Quote You said you want to live in the mountains. So Idaho, Montana, Western Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico is where you want to come. Not those pimples on the east coast ass. |
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As has probably already been mentioned (didn't read the whole thread) Asheville is is quite Libtard-filled. The whole state is filled with New England liberals who retire and move to NC because it's too expensive, then vote for tax-increasing, job killing liberals who ruined their original states to begin with. But I digress...
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The idea of living in the cool quiet mountains is quaint and appealing but the reality is that building a house on a rock pile is a pain in the ass. Walking up hill is a pain in the ass. Living in wooded terrain is hot and no breeze and a pain in the ass. Snakes, bugs, varmints, methbillys, and long drives to ANYTHING, are a pain in the ass. Digging a trench or septic tank or fence post is a pain in the ass. It's not for old people. And yes, the winds blow. And blow. And blow. |
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You will never find a more wretched hive of Democrat scum and villainy than the larger cities in NC especially down east.
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