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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:19:58 PM EDT
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Do you mean recoil or ergonomics?
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I prefer the 3/8 inch drive for the 10 mm.  The 1/4 inch drive doesn’t seem to hold up well for the stuck or hard rusted bolts or nuts.  The 1/2 inch drive is overkill for all but the toughest nuts.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:20:48 PM EDT
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Well I bought a Glock 20 last week so I guess I’m a believer
Or at least hopeful lol
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:22:10 PM EDT
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10mm is bestest mm.
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Except for the 11mm.  
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:25:51 PM EDT
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My favorite 10 meter bullet comes in a S&W Model 57 and says 41 on the headstamp.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:35:14 PM EDT
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Worth having?
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There are better options.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:49:18 PM EDT
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If you reload and/or buy Underwood and Buffalo Bore then yes. All others are watered down to 40 levels.
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Federal has a couple full power loads. Sig is a true 10mm
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:50:30 PM EDT
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Those better options aren't as easy to find or afford like 10mm. 10mm is the compromise between magnum rounds out of revolvers and semiauto capacity without becoming prohibitively expensive to shoot. Just out of curiosity, can yku hunt with 10mm in Pennsylvania?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:57:51 PM EDT
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In factory loads it is downloaded so routinely to .40 levels it is mostly a longer, weaker version of what it's supposed to be.
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Underwood begs to differ with you.

So does Buffalo Bore.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:59:36 PM EDT
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In factory loads it is downloaded so routinely to .40 levels it is mostly a longer, weaker version of what it's supposed to be.
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Don’t shoot that garbage ammo then.  

Buffalo Bore or Underwood factory loads are the opposite of “downloaded”.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:00:37 PM EDT
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Does a wild bear shit in the woods?
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It actually shits 9mm carriers in the woods...
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:03:47 PM EDT
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yes do it.  Glock 20
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:07:54 PM EDT
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I’ll probably end up buying one of the new Sig P320 X-Ten pistols in about a year, but it’d just be for fun at the range and to have something different. 9mm does everything I need from a handgun perfectly well
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:11:41 PM EDT
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Don't shoot that garbage ammo then.  

Buffalo Bore or Underwood factory loads are the opposite of "downloaded".
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The Sig ammo is loaded to an honest 10mm level. 180 grains at 1,250 fps is about middle of the road for 10mm. Hotter than .40, but not change the recoil spring hot.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:14:24 PM EDT
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Hell yes, I was just looking at ammo yesterday, I have had mine for over twenty years.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:15:16 PM EDT
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If you reload and don't mind chasing brass, it's great.  If you don't reload, you will either never shoot it, or you'll be broke.  

I think it's a fun round to play with, but it doesn't really scratch an itch for me.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:21:32 PM EDT
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10mm is bestest mm

Most versatile handgun round IMO
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:23:24 PM EDT
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Depends on what you value
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:24:18 PM EDT
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I used to think so. Till I found out about 45 Super/450SMC and 460 Rowland.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:29:00 PM EDT
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This.

You can find badass factory loads, but of course you'll pay dearly ($).

If you're going to load ammunition yourself, .40 will likely do anything you'll need it to do, plus you've got the option to buy less expensive bulk ammunition for training/plinking purposes.

Of course, you can shoot .40 S&W out of a 10mm Glock.
You cannot shoot .40 S&W out of a 10mm MP5/10 however (due to how the extractor works).
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Data point:  40 S&W feeds/cycles/shoots fine through an EAA/Tanfoglio Witness 10mm.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:34:08 PM EDT
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My favorite handgun round by far.

And here's the hungry beast:

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Want
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:43:52 PM EDT
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The Glock 20 is absolutely massive, I almost bought one until I held it and realized I'd never carry it in the woods.
The 1911 10mm's can be smaller but are heavy.

I carry 9mm in town in a much smaller package (Sig P365).
When I hike, I carry 357 magnum.  It does everything the 10mm does in a 17 ounce package (Ruger KLCR).  It's the perfect woods gun, so light you forget it's there.  If I'm planning on shooting something (small game) I'll carry my Ruger SP101 with a 4.2" barrel.
If I was actually concerned about bears, I'd carry my 44 Mag (S&W 629).


The 10mm is like the Ford Raptor.  It's awesome and powerful and expensive and sexy and probably has more power than you'll ever need until you actually have to tow something big then there are much better options.

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:44:57 PM EDT
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Want
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My favorite handgun round by far.

And here's the hungry beast:

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Want


Thanks! I bought it as my first Father's Day gift to myself back in 1991. It's been highly customized since then. Nowadays most 1911s come with all those bells & whistles,  but back then it was pretty much DIY.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:45:55 PM EDT
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If considering a Glock, might want to consider the G21 and get a 10mm conversion barrel.
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I did that, and found the 21 slide and extractor didn't get a good grip on the 10mm for 100% reliable extraction. So I ended up swapping out the slide as well.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:46:20 PM EDT
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If using full house 10mm then yes, worth having. Something to be said for G-20 with 16 Underwood 220 HC on board.  Great hiking pistol for most of North America.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:47:14 PM EDT
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If you reload and don't mind chasing brass, it's great.  If you don't reload, you will either never shoot it, or you'll be broke.  

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Naw.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 5:58:30 PM EDT
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I held a Glock 40 at a gun store and immediately felt like a modern Dirty Harry. I'll probably get one someday but will likely get a .44 revolver first (already have ammo) even though I don't need either.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:03:33 PM EDT
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My Tanfoglio 10mm is my woods gun and my Hi-Point 10mm carbine is my beater rifle for the 4 wheeler.

Yeah- I like it.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:05:57 PM EDT
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The Glock 20 is absolutely massive, I almost bought one until I held it and realized I'd never carry it in the woods.
The 1911 10mm's can be smaller but are heavy.

I carry 9mm in town in a much smaller package (Sig P365).
When I hike, I carry 357 magnum.  It does everything the 10mm does in a 17 ounce package (Ruger KLCR).  It's the perfect woods gun, so light you forget it's there.  If I'm planning on shooting something (small game) I'll carry my Ruger SP101 with a 4.2" barrel.
If I was actually concerned about bears, I'd carry my 44 Mag (S&W 629).


The 10mm is like the Ford Raptor.  It's awesome and powerful and expensive and sexy and probably has more power than you'll ever need until you actually have to tow something big then there are much better options.

https://i.imgur.com/4ED7cPX.png
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Underwood has a 220 grain 10mm that'll go 1200fps and have 704 ft lbs of energy. Underwood 220 Grain

Your 357 magnum will do fine, no doubt but I'd rather have 16 rounds on tap, especially when a large animal is charging me.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:11:28 PM EDT
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10mm 1911 is as good as it gets in semi auto handgun

dan wesson, colt, kimber, sig.  

now if only s&w would produce one.

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:13:28 PM EDT
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In factory loads it is downloaded so routinely to .40 levels it is mostly a longer, weaker version of what it's supposed to be.
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This, is sadly the truth. Unless you load your own you are missing out on the power.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:15:49 PM EDT
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That depends on what factory load you're buying.  As a blanket statement, that's pretty much bullshit.
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In factory loads it is downloaded so routinely to .40 levels it is mostly a longer, weaker version of what it's supposed to be.



That depends on what factory load you're buying.  As a blanket statement, that's pretty much bullshit.
Yup

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:18:29 PM EDT
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200 gr bullet moving at 1200 fps. It fucks.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:26:26 PM EDT
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My G40 MOS is perhaps my favorite handgun. I hand load so ammo is not a problem.



Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:27:41 PM EDT
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I'm down, but need some time.  

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Kharn
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:38:38 PM EDT
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It's my constant companion in the woods.  Many nights I don't even break the rifle out if I'm hunting timber or brush.

Hardcast 200gr at fuckoff-feet-per-second usually does the trick.

It blew this pig's mind...







Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:45:51 PM EDT
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I have a G41 and a 10mm conversion barrel is available.
I occasionally think about buying one but I can't imagine why.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:51:17 PM EDT
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The Glock 20 is absolutely massive, I almost bought one until I held it and realized I'd never carry it in the woods.
The 1911 10mm's can be smaller but are heavy.

I carry 9mm in town in a much smaller package (Sig P365).
When I hike, I carry 357 magnum.  It does everything the 10mm does in a 17 ounce package (Ruger KLCR).  It's the perfect woods gun, so light you forget it's there.  If I'm planning on shooting something (small game) I'll carry my Ruger SP101 with a 4.2" barrel.
If I was actually concerned about bears, I'd carry my 44 Mag (S&W 629).


The 10mm is like the Ford Raptor.  It's awesome and powerful and expensive and sexy and probably has more power than you'll ever need until you actually have to tow something big then there are much better options.

https://i.imgur.com/4ED7cPX.png
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What loads are you comparing?  10mm gets much hotter than what is listed here.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:55:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 6:58:46 PM EDT
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Is there another Glock 20 sized handgun with as much firepower?  That’s 15 rounds of 180gr going 1,300fps or 200gr going 1,250fps.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:03:28 PM EDT
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Yep
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:03:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:11:44 PM EDT
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DUPE!


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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:17:16 PM EDT
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I did that, and found the 21 slide and extractor didn't get a good grip on the 10mm for 100% reliable extraction. So I ended up swapping out the slide as well.
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If considering a Glock, might want to consider the G21 and get a 10mm conversion barrel.


I did that, and found the 21 slide and extractor didn't get a good grip on the 10mm for 100% reliable extraction. So I ended up swapping out the slide as well.

Mine have eaten thousands of rounds without a hiccup

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:18:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:25:58 PM EDT
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If using full house 10mm then yes, worth having. Something to be said for G-20 with 16 Underwood 220 HC on board.  Great hiking pistol for most of North America.
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The 220s don't work very well. Stick the the 200s
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:27:28 PM EDT
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Underwood has a 220 grain 10mm that'll go 1200fps and have 704 ft lbs of energy. Underwood 220 Grain

Your 357 magnum will do fine, no doubt but I'd rather have 16 rounds on tap, especially when a large animal is charging me.
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The Glock 20 is absolutely massive, I almost bought one until I held it and realized I'd never carry it in the woods.
The 1911 10mm's can be smaller but are heavy.

I carry 9mm in town in a much smaller package (Sig P365).
When I hike, I carry 357 magnum.  It does everything the 10mm does in a 17 ounce package (Ruger KLCR).  It's the perfect woods gun, so light you forget it's there.  If I'm planning on shooting something (small game) I'll carry my Ruger SP101 with a 4.2" barrel.
If I was actually concerned about bears, I'd carry my 44 Mag (S&W 629).


The 10mm is like the Ford Raptor.  It's awesome and powerful and expensive and sexy and probably has more power than you'll ever need until you actually have to tow something big then there are much better options.

https://i.imgur.com/4ED7cPX.png


Underwood has a 220 grain 10mm that'll go 1200fps and have 704 ft lbs of energy. Underwood 220 Grain

Your 357 magnum will do fine, no doubt but I'd rather have 16 rounds on tap, especially when a large animal is charging me.


How many 220s have you shot?

Besides warning shots how many shots do you think you'll get off in a charge?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:29:51 PM EDT
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Yes.
Also the G20 gen 4 and G21 gen 4 fit in the same holster so you need both of those for sure
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:31:08 PM EDT
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My rough around the edges old Delta.  Picked it up with the finish issues.  I added the Sambar Stag grips.  My "medium hot" handload is 11.4gr of AA#9 under a 200gr ACME hardcast coated TC.  Just shy of 1100fps.  Shown with Doubletap 155gr Barnes.

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Beauty!

I could see Chuck Norris carrying that..
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 7:31:55 PM EDT
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The 220s don't work very well. Stick the the 200s
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What about the performance is lacking?  I've only run 220s through a ~ 7" barrel and was impressed.
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