I have been hoping some smart submariners or sonar people would post in here...  

If they had an acoustic data link, I assume nobody is listening to the modem bee-boop noises in real time.  ie. the sound is fed into a modem to decode it and if the raw acoustic data wasn't being recorded there would be no way to listen to the past.
I assume an implosion that size 2 miles below a ship would be impossible to hear with your ears due to ambient noise (wind, machinery, etc).

I'm also curious just how sensitive acoustic intelligence devices the US has are.  Could devices along the eastern seaboard pick up such a small implosion?  I assume the answer is yes via post-processing, but I wonder about real time alerts?

Uncanny, and COOL !

The internal one, was a standard Go-Pro. Not sure what they had outside.

Who walks into that and expects to live?

0 sympathy.

The landing frame and rear cover of the missing Titan submersible have been discovered on the ocean floor, according to experts involved in the search, who say it points to the vessel suffering a 'catastrophic implosion'

They got a couple of these at goodwill.

50 year old white engineer: factor of safety less than 1 means the part breaks. This port hole window will not survive at those depths.

Inspirational CEO: we're innovators here. That rule is stifling innovation. You're fired!

Titan: gluboooooooooommmm....

Is it safe to assume the plastic window failed and all of that pressure and water blasted into the cabin, turned the occupants to paste as it blew them against the Ti rear dome as it all came apart? In theory, the bodies might be intact but pulverized internally? Sank to the floor and were carried away by currents or are the bodies just floating in slow motion neutral buoyancy

"The chances of another implosion are astronomical! We'll be safe here."

In this case, it wasn't just "risky" like an Everest climb or skydiving. Even if something's risky, it's on you to minimize that risk, and that didn't happen here.  This was more on the level of taking off in an airplane without checking the fuel.  "Tim Taylor goes to the Titanic."

They aren’t 7” thick, either.

Occam's razor suggests they were dead less than 3 hours after launch.. It also suggest that the mothership most likely knew it... All this is a show for the ignorant lemmings that need a quick programming between SPORTSBALL and HOLLYWEIRD shows...
Humans are terrifying......

We used to prove this principle all the time as kids, using heavy duty water balloons.   Grab a balloon and fill it with water from the hose. At some point it'll pop, and water will squirt out. But the water only squirts out with the same force you get directly from the hose.

Now use the same kind of balloon, but fill it with air from Dad's air compressor. At some point, it'll pop, and there's a huge friggin BANG!

In a water balloon fight, the grenades don't really explode if they're just full of water. They just break open, and the water sloshes out.   But if an enterprising kid were to fill it halfway with water, and then the rest of the way with compressed air.... now you can actually get your sister wet when you toss the balloon onto the ground beside her.

You don’t have to be this person.

I wouldn’t get in that thing myself but living on the edge and taking risks is exciting, not to mention it’s what has pushed humanity to the levels of advancement we have today. They drew the short straw, unfortunately for them and their families. Posting you have 0 sympathy when you could just read and be quiet makes you seem like an asshole

Did not know that - I'm sure they will be raised if they can find them.  If their pressure container held tight they could most likely recover the chips even if the shock damaged the cameras.

New #satelliteimagery (June 22, 2023) of the search & rescue operations associated with the missing #Titan #submersible near the wreck of the #Titanic. Collected at 11:24am local time, imagery shows multiple ships in the ocean (41.738, -49.944). pic.twitter.com/XeQIHURwGx

Maxar Technologies  (@Maxar) June 22, 2023

Oh, this one is good...

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The Air Force named one of it's noncommissioned officer academies after Vosler.  It's located at Peterson AFB, CO.

Seriously, you make the thing out of a solid Titanium cylinder, with the same life support systems, buoyancy-generating safety backups and thrust vectoring motors as before.

You don’t need a fucking window, see the wreck via a high resolution camera.

Do I have to think of everything?

Just a speculation. I understand the physics of implosion to a point, but if say the hatch window failed would the incoming pressure of water through that opening compress the air inside the vessel to the point of it instantly heating and exploding ?
Somebody mentioned 'dieseling' which seemed to make it much more clear to me. That's almost like a small nuclear reaction and explosion, pointing out the reason it appears only the landing stand and a bit of the tail were found.

500 meters from the Titanic too, which would mean to me that they were very close to the wreck site before creating their own.

Inside the mind of thrill-seeking billionaires: The rich are turning to Titanic tours and space exploration because financial safety has made their lives 'mundane', says top psychologist



People who are financially secure and well-off might seek risk in other places. Psychologist Dr Scott Lyons said the high of thrill-seeking is like drug-taking.


The Titanic submersible tragedy has shone a light on a growing trend among the world's wealthiest people — extreme tourism.

When photos emerged of the claustrophobic interior of the 22ft submersible that has no chairs and Ziploc bags for toilets, the world was shocked to learn its five crew members paid $250,000 a head for a ticket.

But Dr Scott Lyons, a psychologist whose clients include some of the world's wealthiest people, told DailyMail.com that new technologies have made it possible for rich people to chase increasingly dangerous thrills.



Jetting into space, exploring the depths of the ocean and skydiving from Mount Everest come with a hefty price tag that can only be afforded by the top earners.

Dr Lyons said the rich seek a 'sense of aliveness,' as there will be 'safety in parts of their life like finances, so they might seek the thrill and the risk in other places.'

The uber-wealthy may also naturally be risk-takers, which may be partly why they rose to success in the first place.

According to Grand View Research, the global adventure tourism industry is predicted to expand from $322 billion in 2022 to more than $1 trillion in 2023 as more firms seek to expand their offerings to daredevil tourists.



Dr Lyons said: 'People will do more thrill-seeking if they're susceptible to boredom. As you get more extravagant in life, things become less exciting. You're looking for the novelties of life as things become so available to you.'

The adventures offer a 'sense of aliveness,' he said. 'If there's safety in some parts of their life like finances, where it doesn't feel so risky, they might seek the thrill and the risk in other places.'

He added: 'Sensation seeking also comes with people who desire pain relief or avoidance. And it gives us a sense of power in the moment.'

The crew of the missing Titan submersible includes British billionaire Hamish Harding, with a net worth of $1 billion, who made his fortune selling private jets and holds three Guinness world records for past extreme trips.

Also on board are British-based Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, 48, and his 19-year-old son Suleman.

The Dawood family are among the richest in Pakistan, but have strong links to the UK and Shahzada lives in a six-bedroom $4.2 (£3.3million) house in Surbiton, Surrey, with wife Christine, who works as a life coach, son Suleman and daughter Alina.

OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush is also believed to be onboard, who has an estimated net worth of $12 million, as is French Navy veteran Paul-Henri Nargeolet, worth $1.5 billion.

There is a potent physiological mechanism behind thrill-seeking, Dr Lyons explained.

'It starts with a part of the brain called the amygdala, which assesses negative consequences, and essentially turns on a cascade of hormones, like dopamine, testosterone, norepinephrine, adrenaline and serotonin,' he said.

'There's a whole cocktail of hormones that get released and offers pain relief or endorphins, avoidance, and, momentarily, this sense of power, raising us above that threshold of numbness or boredom.'

The feeling is similar to if someone were to go on a run for over three miles, Dr Lyons said. It is also comparable to drug taking.


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That last picture is heart breaking.

No, I don't think so. It would be a total implosion, the whole thing shrinks into itself with any breach.

It would be interesting to see if some photos of the design team surface.  
Or if anyone has that listed on their resume and not scrubbed it yet.    
But maybe the kids did overdesign, and this ceo altered POs for things like the viewport , or anything that brought the cost over whatever his target was?

Everything has risk. You weigh how risky it is and if you can accept the risk. I've jumped out of an airplane. There is a risk you splat into the ground. I found the odds acceptable. For some people driving in a major metro area might be more risk than they are willing to take. A number of people attempt to summit Mt. Everest even though the climb is littered with people that failed and died. They know the risk and find it acceptable.

Rich people have always done risky things. It used to be race car driving for the wealthy and I'm sure the list is very long of things they have pursued. Poor people aren't going to Africa and hunt dangerous game or hunting Leopard in Africa over bait a few feet away at night.

I imagine it's even possible they lost power, drifted down and sat on the bottom for day or so before imploding. Im sure 24 hours+ at depth was not part of their calculation table.

Why? What did I miss?

* Some contents may have settled during shipping.

link for the presser?

You don't need titanium at all.

What's wrong with steel?

Yes, it's like the Balloon Boy hoax but a couple of orders of magnitude worse.

Time doesn't matter too much, number of cycles is the killer.

CNN now states those parts found in the debris field are confirmed to be from the submersible.


OceanGate has released a statement now saying they believe their CEO Stockton Rush and the crew aboard the Titan "has sadly been lost".

Probably a decent sized boil at the surface.

Too bad Arf doesn't support Webm.  This is hilarious.  Also, I'm going to hell  

https://webm.red/lyap

Still likely the data storage was destroyed in the implosion.

It's the pressure gradient, not the pressure.  200 PSI inside the container, and 200 PSI outside, and you are fine if there is a rupture.

14.7 PSI inside the container, and 6000 PSI surrounding the container, and incompressible liquid or not, it's going to fuck the contents if the container ruptures.  That liquid is going to be flying in at 8 km/s.

Ocean gate came out and said all crew members are lost. Catastrophic implosion.

Atleast the news anchors can stop with that hope shit

Was either the window or the carbon fiber tube that failed.  Probably the tube.

Is that the "mother ship" with the launch sled in tow?

Why is it heart breaking?

Ok. There's more to the balloon boy stuff.

I think he legitimately thought he lost his son.

Or the glue that held the tube and titanium parts together...

Goo at best.

@HoodyHoo21

I believe that is the "mothership" towing the launch platform.