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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:44:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And did he spend big? Yes. He also brought in orders of magnitude additional revenue to counteract that spend. None of you never Trumpers wanna admit to that. The tax cuts were good. The economy wasn't as choked, it grew and tax revenue increased. However, the spending and money printing outpaced the gains. That's why inflation was ramped-up so much (and FJB kept it going). |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCorrect, but we will save ourselves. Be on the right side of weiji. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:46:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump has been the best president in recent times. You N_T's enjoying FJB? You guys like the wide open border? Bidenflation? TDS on full display. What i love about DJT, he exposes all evil. Its like they raise thier hand and say here i am. We know some NT in the Lincoln project are sick in the head MF'ers. The jury is still out on our local NT;s. But i expect them to be just the same as all other Trump self-proclaimed enemies. Remember when things go sideways there really is no difference between them and the progressives. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:47:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you know Trump personally, and interact with him daily ? Otherwise, you just basing that opinion on what the media is showing you (which is 99% against Trump). I got to introduce myself to Trump personally a day or two after his inauguration, in a professional capacity, as he was receiving some classified briefings. He was an idiot then, and it was 7 years ago. 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does it matter if your household had a record income year, if you keep spending more than you made, and racking up credit card debt? Yes it does; that’s why the guy that oversaw the record year needs to keep calling the shots. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would you have done? Honestly,I'm waiting. He got swept up in the "experts" but you really can't identify the snake until you see it. Easy to Monday morning quarterback. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: His pandemic response is a big reason for the current situation. What would you have done? Honestly,I'm waiting. He got swept up in the "experts" but you really can't identify the snake until you see it. Easy to Monday morning quarterback. Anyone who has a basic understanding of economics predicted what happened. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it does; that’s why the guy that oversaw the record year needs to keep calling the shots. This is a very simple concept; I don’t understand what you are failing to grasp. Trump saddled us with more debt in 4 years than any president prior. That is the record he set, and it’s not good. He was literally worse than Obama. On the other hand, we can look to the governor of Florida, whose state was running a record surplus. They actually paid off debt early. That is who you should want calling the shots. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:56:09 PM EDT
[#8]
All that free Covid millions did a lot
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What i love about DJT, he exposes all evil. Its like they raise thier hand and say here i am. oh, ok  |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:02:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a very simple concept; I don’t understand what you are failing to grasp. Trump saddled us with more debt in 4 years than any president prior. That is the record he set, and it’s not good. He was literally worse than Obama. On the other hand, we can look to the governor of Florida, whose state was running a record surplus. They actually paid off debt early. That is who you should want calling the shots. The problem is that you keep focusing on one side of the ledger; Trump increased debt (mainly because Covid) but he actually increased revenue to levels this country hasn’t seen in decades. I’m not saying Desantis wouldn’t be a great president, I’m saying Trump didn’t screw us to the degree a lot of people are saying based on economics. The country was doing great economically under Trump. Ideologically not so much. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:03:49 PM EDT
[#11]
“Two weeks to flatten the curve”
Remember that bullshit? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:12:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:15:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is that you keep focusing on one side of the ledger; Trump increased debt (mainly because Covid) but he actually increased revenue to levels this country hasn’t seen in decades. I’m not saying Desantis wouldn’t be a great president, I’m saying Trump didn’t screw us to the degree a lot of people are saying based on economics. The country was doing great economically under Trump. Ideologically not so much. The two sides of the ledger are revenue and expenses. The result is either a red or black number. Trump’s number was red, and a record red number at that. Record revenue is irrelevant without a corresponding adjustment to spending. Trump ran our country on a credit card we can’t pay off, it’s that simple. It seemed great to people who don’t understand interest rates and fiscal policy, or monetary supply theory. It was always a house of cards. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He got swept up by all the experts because he didn't know anything to begin with. That's whats wrong with electing people who don't know anything. Sure, the President doesn't have to be an expert. But bragging about stimulus checks tells me he wasn't even a novice. Would Hillary Clinton done it any different? What elected official would know how ti deal with something that nobody knows what it is? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol. Funny hearing him talk about inflation when he’s the one who started it.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83409/58849A01-472F-45AB-918A-EAEC6FDC34CE_4_5-3076234.JPG Hmmmm so according to your chart, the dollar has .05 value? GTFO with that shit. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: #metoo daddy needs a big spread in montucky and a bunch of cheap rentals to pretire on.  Every dollar printed makes the dollars you make and already own worth less. Gotta try and stay ahead or at least even with the curve or you are losing ground. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:23:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The delusions of an early onset dementia patient circling the drain. 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:24:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The two sides of the ledger are revenue and expenses. The result is either a red or black number. Trump’s number was red, and a record red number at that. Record revenue is irrelevant without a corresponding adjustment to spending. Trump ran our country on a credit card we can’t pay off, it’s that simple. It seemed great to people who don’t understand interest rates and fiscal policy, or monetary supply theory. It was always a house of cards. Sorry but no. It was in the black. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:27:20 PM EDT
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What power does POTUS have to kick out the central bankers? I can see Trump laying it all out in his first year and presenting a bill that congress will reject and Trump using that to flip the house and senate in 2026 to get it to pass.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry but no. It was in the black. Black = profit (surplus) Red = loss (debt) Your inability to understand does not change facts. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What power does POTUS have to kick out the central bankers? I can see Trump laying it all out in his first year and presenting a bill that congress will reject and Trump using that to flip the house and senate in 2026 to get it to pass. The president doesn’t present bills to Congress, it’s the other way around. And when Congress puts a bullshit spending bill on the president’s desk, he has the power to veto. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:30:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Black = profit (surplus) Red = loss (debt) Your inability to understand does not change facts. I understand perfectly and from a fact-based perspective. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:31:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand perfectly and in a fact-based perspective. When you argue that Trump’s budgets were in the black, you clearly don’t. Sorry. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:32:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you argue that Trump’s budgets were in the black, you clearly don’t. Sorry. Apology accepted 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats he gonna do print 6 trillion dollars out of thin air again? Best economy ever! It will be the best economic recovery evvvvvveeeeerrrrr!! |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:33:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What power does POTUS have to kick out the central bankers? I can see Trump laying it all out in his first year and presenting a bill that congress will reject and Trump using that to flip the house and senate in 2026 to get it to pass. If he wins. Big if… he will be lame duck starting day one. Both the house and senate will sit on their hands until he’s out. There will be many impeachments, special counsels, rape accusations, riots etc. Basically a repeat of his first term. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:34:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Classic Trump scare tactic, "If not me then (insert debacle of choice)"
next |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Funny hearing him talk about inflation when he's the one who started it. Doesn't everyone love $70k trucks at 8% interest? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:38:21 PM EDT
[#29]
whoever wins, I dont know how we dig ourselves out of this debt without extreme frugality or extreme inflation and when has a gov been known not print and inflate away debt...
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:42:21 PM EDT
[#30]
The never Trumpers don't care, they would rather see the country spiral into a depression because leftism is a mental disorder.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:43:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The never Trumpers don't care, they would rather see the country spiral into a depression because leftism is a mental disorder. You have it 180 degrees backwards. 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:44:27 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And we get Warp speed stimulus checks and $200k F150s and $500 singlewide homes. It will be the best economic recovery evvvvvveeeeerrrrr!! 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:46:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats he gonna do print 6 trillion dollars out of thin air again? Best economy ever! Truth. Full steam ahead on debt and also say there's no way in hell you'll support reforms on entitlements. Dude has pulled such a good con on many "fiscally conservative " voters. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:47:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes he is. The economy was good because he printed trillions. Now we are suffering from his actions The printed money didn't happen till after the Dempanic. The market soared during his years, gas was cheap, I had money and my stocks doubled. So if you wanna blame Trump solely for today's fuckery then you'd be wrong. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:49:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans.” 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:49:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The printed money didn't happen till after the Dempanic. The market soared during his years, gas was cheap, I had money and my stocks doubled. So if you wanna blame Trump solely for today's fuckery then you'd be wrong. Trump was racking up debt and suppressing interest rates well before Covid. Temporary measures that make things look good in the short term, but the chickens were always gonna come home to roost. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:51:56 PM EDT
[#37]
If Biden is elected, the stock market will crash. - Trump, October 2020
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:52:53 PM EDT
[#38]
He's a DOG GONE GOOD MAN.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:54:57 PM EDT
[#39]
I wanna believe...
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:56:10 PM EDT
[#40]
We need to summon a conjuror to dig up and resurrect Calvin Coolidge.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:56:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wanna believe... You want to believe that if Trump doesn't win the market will crash? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:56:43 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He was elected because he was SUPPOSED TO BE the best at picking and managing people. If that was the case, at some point he should have woken up and said "hey, wait a minute" and figured out a new plan. Instead, when others figured it out and moved a different direction, he attacked them publicly, and still openly states that he doesn't think he did anything wrong He thinks he doesn't need God's forgiveness for anything yet he and millions of idiots think he is a Christian. Seeing as how he is worshipped as a messiah by some folks I can see why Trump feels he doesn't need God's forgiveness. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:57:32 PM EDT
[#43]
I’m about 3% from my all time high in my accounts.
It’s certainly not from potato, and I’m not sure how much orange man fumes had to do with it either. I’d much rather have mean tweets than a gun-grabbing border opener though. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:58:43 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The printed money didn't happen till after the Dempanic. The market soared during his years, gas was cheap, I had money and my stocks doubled. So if you wanna blame Trump solely for today's fuckery then you'd be wrong. This. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:59:08 PM EDT
[#45]
I want my Trump bux round 2.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:59:35 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not really wrong. This. The economy is fake, inflated, and divorced from the man on the street. You can only ignore reality for so long…Trump is right, but it’s going to crash even if he wins. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:59:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The never Trumpers don't care, they would rather see the country spiral into a depression because leftism is a mental disorder. 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 8:00:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah more revenue is always good. I won’t disagree that the .gov will attempt to spend it though. More revenue under both parties just expands the government |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 8:02:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats he gonna do print 6 trillion dollars out of thin air again? Best economy ever! Celebrating those Trump Bucks! https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-OFFICIAL-MY-TRUNK-BUCKS-ARRIVED-THREAD/5-2311711/?page=1 |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 8:04:26 PM EDT
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you folks do realize that he got no cooperation from congress during his first term, even when he had a majority in both houses. trump cannot work in a government bureaucratic environment where compromise is key. he only understands being the only decision maker extant. if he does win, i expect him to be impeached and convicted with both dems and republicans cooperating to turn his ass out of office.
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