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Is this an open Primary? If so, that would be the only reason for endorsing the Strange so democrats vote against him. Just a guess that since Trump endorsed Strange, democrats will vote for the other guys. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No fake news here. Trump endorsed Luther Strange, who is one of McConnell's yes men. 6/7/17 AL.com - McConnell groups backing Luther Strange to run $2.4M in ads starting next week 7/31/17 Politico - McConnell wages war down South Strange was only appointed to fill Sessions' seat because the Love Gov was being investigated by Strange's office. Love Gov Bentley later resigned, you may remember. 11/3/16 Bentley impeachment process on hold for investigation by AG Strange 4/12/17 Bentley wanted to 'get rid' of Luther Strange, lawmaker says Strange's main challengers are Rep. Mo Brooks (Freedom Caucus) and Roy Moore (a favorite among the evangelicals). Praise KEK, MAGA, 3D Chess, You Don't Understand How Business Works, He's only been in the DC for 7 months, You seem concerned, etc... Is this an open Primary? If so, that would be the only reason for endorsing the Strange so democrats vote against him. Just a guess that since Trump endorsed Strange, democrats will vote for the other guys. |
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And Mo was a #nevertrump. Personally I don't care who wins your election but I can understand Trumps reluctance to support him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I know Mo Brooks to some extent personally (he was my attorney for my business on a few occasions). For a lawyer and now a politician I have found him to be unusually honest for the breed. I also have some knowledge of Luther Strange, a bit more second hand but close sources, and I can tell you without a doubt that that man will say and do anything to be elected. He has no principles beyond a desire to sit in the senate till he dies. The man is running ads about wanting to "drain the swamp", yet he's allied himself with the biggest swamp creature of them all, Mitch McConnell. You may be upset that he opposed your guy in the primary, but he did *exactly* what you guys said should be done and turned around and supported Trump in the general because Trump was clearly the best pick in that election. He has a record of opposing RINOs for awhile now. Strange *is* a RINO - you don't get $10M from McConnnell for being a real conservative. That $10M will obligate Strange to support McConnell and the establishment Republicans till his last day in office. So yes, I support Brooks. |
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I would be happier with him if he acted more professional and knock it off with the tweets and public insults against other politicians. To me it shows characteristics of immaturity and weak leadership. It's getting grade school level retarded. |
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If only lots of people didn't agree with him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Considering Trump endorsements have yet to win an election...you might be wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Or he is throwing a bone to McConnell so he will actually start doing some work
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Maybe Trump is just following thru on his promise to fight Freedom Caucus guys. He'll even choose The Swamp over The Freedom Caucus. #MAGA View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see someone has seen Mitch McConnell's Super PAC ads. 7/26/17 GOP Rep. Mo Brooks: Mitch McConnell has 'got to go' Fuck Mconnel and his superpac for using Trump to get their guy elected. He'll even choose The Swamp over The Freedom Caucus. #MAGA Sorry, but the country isn't in 1780 anymore, it cannot be run as if it were. Women can vote and get jobs now, and slavery has been abolished. |
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains.
Let me keep my guns, keep the enemy away, don't tax me to death and its good enough for me. I didn't expect much to change when I voted for Trump but hopefully I get the three things I named. |
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I know but that must be coincidental but I'm sure he still doesn't care enough to type out a another reply letting us know that he in fact doesn't care View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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people all upset about mcconnell supporting strange. yet, when rand sucked up to (sucked off ?) and became the a boy toy of mcconnell, inorder to be able to get mcconnell to help him arrange for a kentucky caucus so he could run for both the presidency, and also run to keep his senate seat, where was the outrage? so rand is also a rino? ohhhhhh.... rand is "your conservative" so it's okay.... right. edit - strangely quiet about mcconnell's rino rand. |
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. View Quote If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? |
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LOL, You want to try again?
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I don't give a fuck if he uses Twitter or a fucking carrier pigeon if he would fight the D.C. establishment instead of propping it up.
Trump is on course to be the next Nixon... fantastic on foreign policy and fucking terrible to not-so-hot on everything else. |
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7 dimension Shoots and Ladders......
Sorry your girl lost, get over it. |
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But Mitch McConnell does? LOL The Turtle thanks you for your support. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Freedom Caucus does not represent the best interests of America. The Turtle thanks you for your support. Hillary thanks you for your support. |
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Or just maybe their is not a swamp issue, it's always been there, and people only see what they want to see. At what point in your life was there not this so called swamp? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only way the swamp gets drained is a meteor or canned sunshine. Electing a couple newbies here and there does nothing.They will be assimilated. Wretched hive of scum and villainy works well too. When I was young and had more hope/optimism,I had respect for those in DC.As time goes on and your Party of smaller government,less spending,personal freedom,etc...does the opposite,it's hard not to be a pessimist. You get to the point that you see that it will not change. Trump may,may be a slight reprieve,but with the majority of the same shit in DC,I see no real chance of meaningful attempts to cut spending and the size of government. Not much we can do but enjoy the ride........... |
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Did I say that? No, I did not. Hillary thanks you for your support. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Freedom Caucus does not represent the best interests of America. The Turtle thanks you for your support. Hillary thanks you for your support. pick one |
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Freedom Caucus, Evangelicals, or GOPeeeeeeeeee pick one View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Freedom Caucus does not represent the best interests of America. The Turtle thanks you for your support. Hillary thanks you for your support. pick one |
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The Trump Party. Replace all senators up in 2018 with those who will actually MAGA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Freedom Caucus does not represent the best interests of America. The Turtle thanks you for your support. Hillary thanks you for your support. pick one |
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My question on this so called swamp that some keeping talking about - what is different with it now than say 20 years ago? If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? The internet brings a lot of what the cockroaches do to life. No doubt there has always been graft and corruption,but it seems like it has accelerated in the last decade or so. Smaller government,less spending,pro 2nd,etc...has gone by the wayside.Some of us would like to see the shit stop and people held accountable for the blatant crimes in DC. |
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The size of government,along with it's intrusion into every facet of our lives,and spending are increasing. The internet brings a lot of what the cockroaches do to life. No doubt there has always been graft and corruption,but it seems like it has accelerated in the last decade or so. Smaller government,less spending,pro 2nd,etc...has gone by the wayside.Some of us would like to see the shit stop and people held accountable for the blatant crimes in DC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? The internet brings a lot of what the cockroaches do to life. No doubt there has always been graft and corruption,but it seems like it has accelerated in the last decade or so. Smaller government,less spending,pro 2nd,etc...has gone by the wayside.Some of us would like to see the shit stop and people held accountable for the blatant crimes in DC. Look at whats happening currently here on arf, there is more whining now than when Obama was in. Something to think about |
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Not so far he hasn't. If he pulls his head out of his shell and gets the Healthcare, Tax and infrastructure bills passed, then we can talk about his job prospects. As of now he needs to be replaced at the first possible opportunity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I'm not real old depending on who you ask and have only lived through a handful of presidents but by looking at history things are no different than the past. But then again people have always found things to be unhappy about with the administration at any given time. Look at whats happening currently here on arf, there is more whining now than when Obama was in. Something to think about View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? The internet brings a lot of what the cockroaches do to life. No doubt there has always been graft and corruption,but it seems like it has accelerated in the last decade or so. Smaller government,less spending,pro 2nd,etc...has gone by the wayside.Some of us would like to see the shit stop and people held accountable for the blatant crimes in DC. Look at whats happening currently here on arf, there is more whining now than when Obama was in. Something to think about It just gets old when you hear the same promises over and over and get shit on.Reagan had some great speeches about big government (and ran on getting rid of the Department of Education),and what did we get?Bigger government and more spending. And I may be wrong,but I think the Department of Education is still there. Went thru the same shit in NY when Pataki (R) ran against cuomo (Mario,the current governors Father ) as a pro gun Republican. Course after he was elected,he turned around and pushed for,and got,a State AWB. And then,like Romney,and Christie,had the balls to run for President on the R ticket. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football-elect us and we'll do all the shit you like.And then when they get into office,it's a whole different story. |
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My question on this so called swamp that some keeping talking about - what is different with it now than say 20 years ago? If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? View Quote |
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Not so far he hasn't. If he pulls his head out of his shell and gets the Healthcare, Tax and infrastructure bills passed, then we can talk about his job prospects. As of now he needs to be replaced at the first possible opportunity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do you think Mitch is going to MAGA? No wonder they call us the stupid party. |
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I think I'd prefer it if Trump abstained from making endorsements in R primaries. No matter which way it goes, he makes enemies inside his own party.
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ha ha ha.... people all upset about mcconnell supporting strange. yet, when rand sucked up to (sucked off ?) and became the a boy toy of mcconnell, inorder to be able to get mcconnell to help him arrange for a kentucky caucus so he could run for both the presidency, and also run to keep his senate seat, where was the outrage? so rand is also a rino? ohhhhhh.... rand is "your conservative" so it's okay.... right. edit - strangely quiet about mcconnell's rino rand. View Quote Do you hate that Trump supports McConnell? |
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It's going to be Moore and Strange in a runoff and I think Moore will get it.
It's going to be interesting if Moore becomes a US Senator. OP you must have really hated your time in AL. |
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. |
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There has always been varying degrees of the Swamp but I have never seen or heard of both sides of the Swamp wanting to DESTROY the duly elected president of the USA. That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. Seems self-destructive to me |
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So why is the duly elected president of the USA throwing his support behind a candidate that the head of the swamp is buying off? Seems self-destructive to me View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. Seems self-destructive to me Maybe Mitchie isn't as bad as we think he might be and it is some of his rank and file who are the real douche bags? Yes, I am going out on a limb. |
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It's going to be Moore and Strange in a runoff and I think Moore will get it. It's going to be interesting if Moore becomes a US Senator. OP you must have really hated your time in AL. View Quote |
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There has always been varying degrees of the Swamp but I have never seen or heard of both sides of the Swamp wanting to DESTROY the duly elected president of the USA. That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. |
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OP you must have really hated your time in AL. View Quote When every statewide election is determined in the Republican primary, elected officials know they are pretty safe to do whatever they want. After all, what are you going to do after some legislation that should be a slam dunk dies in subcommittee (like Constitutional Carry did this year)? Vote for the Democrat? LOL. In AL that's just as pointless as voting 3rd party in a Presidential election. They even fuck up pubic referendums (see the state park question on November's ballot among a few others). You'd think someone who supports limited government would like living in a state that has Republicans with a 72-33 Majority in the State Legislature, a 26-8-1 Majority in the State Senate, and a Republican governor. But most of these elected officials would still be Democrats if we could get in a time machine and take them back before 1994. Arizona is a good example of Repubs having both houses and the Governorship yet still getting limited government stuff accomplished, because there are still enough Democrats holding seats in the state House of Reps and state Senate where Repubs must actually do what they campaign on instead of giving broad platitudes about hunting, going to church, and fighting Democrats/Obama/Pelosi* during the Primary and General then doing very little if anything that would be labeled "conservative" if there weren't Super-majorities of Republicans in both houses pushing it through. Living in Alabama has reminded me why politically I'm more of a Rocky Mountain/Big Sky Republican type of voter. Republicans in Alabama want the same size of government as Alabama Democrats do, but the AL Repubs just want the size of gov to be in the areas that align with their interests. Collectively no one in this state - not the voters or those they elect - actually wants the government to do less and spend less. Circling back to this special election, I'm not a huge fan of either of the three major contenders. Brooks' Congressional Carry proposal is a slap in the face to me as someone who had to plan on not carrying for the entire day if there was the possibility I'd go into DC during that day. Strange's appointment by Bentley is a Rod Blagojevich level of corruption. McConnell backing him just adds to Strange's stench as a political creature who will not try to change what is broken. If Strange is elected, he'll continue being McConnell's yes man. Roy Moore would be an absolute joke as a Senator. He'll be a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren/Al Franken type of Senator, but he'll have an (R) beside his name so many people in Alabama, Republicans outside of AL, and on this website will give him a pass. If elected, I fully expect him to be censured before his reelection. I still don't know who I'll vote for, but it wont be Strange or Moore. *I actually saw this in the 2014 State Legislature election. A candidate - who I voted for - was campaigning about fighting Obama. It was even at the top of all of his campaign signs. In all the times I've read the Constitution - the US Constitution not that monstrosity that is the AL constitution - I did not see where state legislatures have anything to do to serve as a check and balance to the Federal Executive branch. Fortunately for him, I liked his stance on state gov involvement in education and my local school district's superintendent endorsed him so he got my vote and my wife's vote. |
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I wonder if Hannity is going to withdraw his endorsement of Brooks now that Trump has endorsed Strange.
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From a state politics POV, AL is just as fucked up as any other state that has de facto single party rule. Would I choose AL over a Democratic controlled state like CA? Of course. But with the amount of alleged Conservatives holding office and as constituents, I'd expect better. When every statewide election is determined in the Republican primary, elected officials know they are pretty safe to do whatever they want. After all, what are you going to do after some legislation that should be a slam dunk dies in subcommittee (like Constitutional Carry did this year)? Vote for the Democrat? LOL. In AL that's just as pointless as voting 3rd party in a Presidential election. They even fuck up pubic referendums (see the state park question on November's ballot among a few others). You'd think someone who supports limited government would like living in a state that has Republicans with a 72-33 Majority in the State Legislature, a 26-8-1 Majority in the State Senate, and a Republican governor. But most of these elected officials would still be Democrats if we could get in a time machine and take them back before 1994. Arizona is a good example of Repubs having both houses and the Governorship yet still getting limited government stuff accomplished, because there are still enough Democrats holding seats in the state House of Reps and state Senate where Repubs must actually do what they campaign on instead of giving broad platitudes about hunting, going to church, and fighting Democrats/Obama/Pelosi* during the Primary and General then doing very little if anything that would be labeled "conservative" if there weren't Super-majorities of Republicans in both houses pushing it through. Living in Alabama has reminded me why politically I'm more of a Rocky Mountain/Big Sky Republican type of voter. Republicans in Alabama want the same size of government as Alabama Democrats do, but the AL Repubs just want the size of gov to be in the areas that align with their interests. Collectively no one in this state - not the voters or those they elect - actually wants the government to do less and spend less. Circling back to this special election, I'm not a huge fan of either of the three major contenders. Brooks' Congressional Carry proposal is a slap in the face to me as someone who had to plan on not carrying for the entire day if there was the possibility I'd go into DC during that day. Strange's appointment by Bentley is a Rod Blagojevich level of corruption. McConnell backing him just adds to Strange's stench as a political creature who will not try to change what is broken. If Strange is elected, he'll continue being McConnell's yes man. Roy Moore would be an absolute joke as a Senator. He'll be a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren/Al Franken type of Senator, but he'll have an (R) beside his name so many people in Alabama, Republicans outside of AL, and on this website will give him a pass. If elected, I fully expect him to be censured before his reelection. I still don't know who I'll vote for, but it wont be Strange or Moore. *I actually saw this in the 2014 State Legislature election. A candidate - who I voted for - was campaigning about fighting Obama. It was even at the top of all of his campaign signs. In all the times I've read the Constitution - the US Constitution not that monstrosity that is the AL constitution - I did not see where state legislatures have anything to do to serve as a check and balance to the Federal Executive branch. Fortunately for him, I liked his stance on state gov involvement in education and my local school district's superintendent endorsed him so he got my vote and my wife's vote. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP you must have really hated your time in AL. When every statewide election is determined in the Republican primary, elected officials know they are pretty safe to do whatever they want. After all, what are you going to do after some legislation that should be a slam dunk dies in subcommittee (like Constitutional Carry did this year)? Vote for the Democrat? LOL. In AL that's just as pointless as voting 3rd party in a Presidential election. They even fuck up pubic referendums (see the state park question on November's ballot among a few others). You'd think someone who supports limited government would like living in a state that has Republicans with a 72-33 Majority in the State Legislature, a 26-8-1 Majority in the State Senate, and a Republican governor. But most of these elected officials would still be Democrats if we could get in a time machine and take them back before 1994. Arizona is a good example of Repubs having both houses and the Governorship yet still getting limited government stuff accomplished, because there are still enough Democrats holding seats in the state House of Reps and state Senate where Repubs must actually do what they campaign on instead of giving broad platitudes about hunting, going to church, and fighting Democrats/Obama/Pelosi* during the Primary and General then doing very little if anything that would be labeled "conservative" if there weren't Super-majorities of Republicans in both houses pushing it through. Living in Alabama has reminded me why politically I'm more of a Rocky Mountain/Big Sky Republican type of voter. Republicans in Alabama want the same size of government as Alabama Democrats do, but the AL Repubs just want the size of gov to be in the areas that align with their interests. Collectively no one in this state - not the voters or those they elect - actually wants the government to do less and spend less. Circling back to this special election, I'm not a huge fan of either of the three major contenders. Brooks' Congressional Carry proposal is a slap in the face to me as someone who had to plan on not carrying for the entire day if there was the possibility I'd go into DC during that day. Strange's appointment by Bentley is a Rod Blagojevich level of corruption. McConnell backing him just adds to Strange's stench as a political creature who will not try to change what is broken. If Strange is elected, he'll continue being McConnell's yes man. Roy Moore would be an absolute joke as a Senator. He'll be a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren/Al Franken type of Senator, but he'll have an (R) beside his name so many people in Alabama, Republicans outside of AL, and on this website will give him a pass. If elected, I fully expect him to be censured before his reelection. I still don't know who I'll vote for, but it wont be Strange or Moore. *I actually saw this in the 2014 State Legislature election. A candidate - who I voted for - was campaigning about fighting Obama. It was even at the top of all of his campaign signs. In all the times I've read the Constitution - the US Constitution not that monstrosity that is the AL constitution - I did not see where state legislatures have anything to do to serve as a check and balance to the Federal Executive branch. Fortunately for him, I liked his stance on state gov involvement in education and my local school district's superintendent endorsed him so he got my vote and my wife's vote. |
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Beats the fuck out of me!! Maybe Mitchie isn't as bad as we think he might be and it is some of his rank and file who are the real douche bags? Yes, I am going out on a limb. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The swamp ain't going anywhere nor dry. Some alligators may change but the swamp remains. If the answer is nothing then what are we trying to change? That tells me it has gotten too entrenched, diabolically selfish and MUST be destroyed. Seems self-destructive to me Maybe Mitchie isn't as bad as we think he might be and it is some of his rank and file who are the real douche bags? Yes, I am going out on a limb. |
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