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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:16:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you show a picture of the HD truck, not the half ton? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145716/Screenshot_20210108-123419_Chrome_jpg-1769814.JPG This. The 1500's ain't bad. The HD's have a face only a mother could love, and that's coming from a guy that owns one.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:22:28 PM EDT
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Bring back the Lincoln Mark LT!
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:45:18 PM EDT
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The 2020 3/4 ton Sierras have a nice front end look. I don't know what the GM designers were thinking (smoking?) when they finalized the 3/4 ton Silverado, but it's easily the worst looking truck in decades.
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:47:52 PM EDT
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BUtMyYOyoTA!!!
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:52:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People are looking for the largest, most obnoxious front ends in Pickup history. Obviously I just don't get it. https://cdn.static-carindigo.com/images/content/9389a1e642baca6d2cec227564a57e18.webp I see a lot of them on the road. I don't get it they always strike me as the ugliest truck on the market. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:56:22 PM EDT
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Don’t forget the GM mirror design:
 Whoever designed the current generation must have literally been blind and on crack. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 5:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well theres some drama. Why would you have anything to be embarrassed about if you dont own one? Hell, thats not even the ugliest one and there are certainly other flavors. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/265487/truck_jpg-1769830.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: People are looking for the largest, most obnoxious front ends in Pickup history. Obviously I just don't get it. https://cdn.static-carindigo.com/images/content/9389a1e642baca6d2cec227564a57e18.webp Fucking embarrassing. Why would you have anything to be embarrassed about if you dont own one? Hell, thats not even the ugliest one and there are certainly other flavors. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/265487/truck_jpg-1769830.JPG Who said anything about me being embarrassed? The front end of the truck is embarrassing for GM. Now, the AT4, otoh, is pretty sexy. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 5:11:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL... Fiat really... you funny. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: RAM ftw LOL... Fiat really... you funny. Theyre made in MI I believe |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 5:12:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty sure it's been like that forever, Ford counts Chevy and GMC separately so they claim "best selling" truck for 20+ years. Exactly! |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 5:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty sure it's been like that forever, Ford counts Chevy and GMC separately so they claim "best selling" truck for 20+ years. Correction: GM counts Chevy and GM separately. They're the ones that have chosen to operate a redundant and completely unnecessary brand instead of just selling all their trucks under one name. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 5:52:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correction: GM counts Chevy and GM separately. They're the ones that have chosen to operate a redundant and completely unnecessary brand instead of just selling all their trucks under one name. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: pretty sure it's been like that forever, Ford counts Chevy and GMC separately so they claim "best selling" truck for 20+ years. Correction: GM counts Chevy and GM separately. They're the ones that have chosen to operate a redundant and completely unnecessary brand instead of just selling all their trucks under one name. The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually the 16' was pretty much perfect in the 50k miles I put on it. The only issue I ever had was when it was not only a week new while raining a water droplet would form and drip at the sun visor. Dealer took it back and repaired a pinched gasket on the satellite radio antenna. That truck probably had 20k or so miles pulling a 44' 5th wheel all over the country. I currently have 2k miles on the 2020 and the rear brakes are loud and the infotainment system when black on my way into work once. After shutting truck off and restart I haven't seen that issue again. ?? I also had a 2015 Ram 3500 mega cab that I absolutely LOVED! After 8k miles the dealer needed to pull the Cummins to replace a seal on engine because it decided to let loose in the driveway and poor about 2 or 3 quarts of oil out while sitting overnight. THAT is the only reason I ever even entertained a GMC product. ETA: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/162439/Screenshot_20200517-151806_Photos_jpg-1769741.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's my 2020 next to my 2016 I traded in.  https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/162439/20201022_171801_jpg-1769730.JPG Let me guess.... its was bulletproof for the 4 years you owned it, and that's why you went back with another?  Actually the 16' was pretty much perfect in the 50k miles I put on it. The only issue I ever had was when it was not only a week new while raining a water droplet would form and drip at the sun visor. Dealer took it back and repaired a pinched gasket on the satellite radio antenna. That truck probably had 20k or so miles pulling a 44' 5th wheel all over the country. I currently have 2k miles on the 2020 and the rear brakes are loud and the infotainment system when black on my way into work once. After shutting truck off and restart I haven't seen that issue again. ?? I also had a 2015 Ram 3500 mega cab that I absolutely LOVED! After 8k miles the dealer needed to pull the Cummins to replace a seal on engine because it decided to let loose in the driveway and poor about 2 or 3 quarts of oil out while sitting overnight. THAT is the only reason I ever even entertained a GMC product. ETA: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/162439/Screenshot_20200517-151806_Photos_jpg-1769741.JPG Nice setup, but I never understood why they keep applying the aborted fetus graphics on all the trailers and RVs??? WTF! That setup would be so clean and nice if it were just one fucking color. Stop applying scrambled eggs and catchup graphics to the side of trailers please.  |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:38:41 PM EDT
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Fell the power
of second-chance credit |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. Some people may consider it almost a Cadillac though. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:40:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t forget the GM mirror design: https://gartic.com.br/imgs/mural/_w/_walts_/shrug-meme.png Whoever designed the current generation must have literally been blind and on crack. Those aren't even the dumbest looking mirrors. 
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese owned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: RAM ftw Chinese owned. Fake news. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: pretty sure it's been like that forever, Ford counts Chevy and GMC separately so they claim "best selling" truck for 20+ years. Correction: GM counts Chevy and GM separately. They're the ones that have chosen to operate a redundant and completely unnecessary brand instead of just selling all their trucks under one name. The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. Buick at least used to have a purpose. GMC had no reason to exist before Chevy beat the Silverado with the ugly stick, and even then, that's entirely self-inflicted. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: pretty sure it's been like that forever, Ford counts Chevy and GMC separately so they claim "best selling" truck for 20+ years. Correction: GM counts Chevy and GM separately. They're the ones that have chosen to operate a redundant and completely unnecessary brand instead of just selling all their trucks under one name. The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. Not happening, chicoms love them some buick, for some reason. And you have to gargle commie balls as a corporations, or something like that. Wish Buick had canned and Pontiac was kept a performance division. They were just starting to figure it out again when they killed them it seemed like. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 7:06:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think that's ugly......https://www.jimnortonchevy.com/inventoryphotos/8120/1htkjpvkxkh391738/ip/1.jpg?height=400 Geez it looks like it got stung on the face by a whole herd of bees. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 7:11:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2021 will be Nissan's big year. The Titan will crush all of those numbers, you just watch !!! Doing my part!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 7:11:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Meet the new shitty truck, same as the old shitty truck
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Posted: 1/8/2021 7:34:14 PM EDT
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I don't buy ugly guns , I don't buy ugly trucks and I don't fuck ugly women
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Posted: 1/8/2021 7:35:43 PM EDT
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That many blind drivers out there? GM's design is ugly as fuck.
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Posted: 1/8/2021 8:07:20 PM EDT
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In this thread grown men debate the finer points of reflector and mirror cosmetic styling as if that makes a bit of difference as to how the truck performs the job. In fact, very little debate of anything a truck should be judged on has occurred. Very large male purses with wheels and payments. How far we have fallen in the last 20 years. Clown world, indeed.
 
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Posted: 1/8/2021 8:14:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 8:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread grown men debate the finer points of reflector and mirror cosmetic styling as if that makes a bit of difference as to how the truck performs the job. In fact, very little debate of anything a truck should be judged on has occurred. Very large male purses with wheels and payments. How far we have fallen in the last 20 years. Clown world, indeed. 
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Posted: 1/8/2021 10:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retooling for the new models cut production by about half. We were out of 2019's by June of that year 2020's didn't start coming in until November and even then we were lucky to get 10% of the trucks we ordered , just like every other dealer out there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Retooling for the new models cut production by about half. We were out of 2019's by June of that year 2020's didn't start coming in until November and even then we were lucky to get 10% of the trucks we ordered , just like every other dealer out there. Ford beat Chevy and GMC combined in 2017 and 2018 as well. Link |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:29:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some people may consider it almost a Cadillac though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The sooner they shit can Buick the better. I just wonder what they would do with GMC dealers at that point. Some people may consider it almost a Cadillac though. That's a spicy reference to Pontiac sir. 
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:34:25 PM EDT
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The new Chevy's are butt ugly, and I'm a chevy guy. We're all fucked anyway. Chevy went SJW and Ford wants to go all electric
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:37:27 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The 1500's ain't bad. The HD's have a face only a mother could love, and that's coming from a guy that owns one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/461668/20210108_121038_jpg-1769862.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably change this year. New F150 is super impressive. Agreed. GM truck design fresh compared to F-150. 2021 Ford is impressive |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Note to self... keep my 2014 running forever https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/273091/20150731_151339_jpg-1771421.JPG 3/4 ton gasser...a man of culture |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:45:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:45:43 PM EDT
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Ram 2021 Love it
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:47:40 PM EDT
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does anyone else keep going back and forth between wanting a diesel and not wanting a diesel engine?
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People are looking for the largest, most obnoxious front ends in Pickup history. Obviously I just don't get it. https://cdn.static-carindigo.com/images/content/9389a1e642baca6d2cec227564a57e18.webp Not only ugly but the truck is a pile of shit. Those of us that fix them would never buy one. I would buy a new RAM over a GM truck. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: does anyone else keep going back and forth between wanting a diesel and not wanting a diesel engine? I am planning to buy a 2500 this year and it will not be a diesel. In the Ram 2500s the Cummins gets you about 250 lbs more towing capacity than a Hemi truck with 4.10 axle, but you lose about 850 lbs of payload because of the extra engine weight |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:52:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The face of the new Chevy truck is butt ugly IMO. The face? The whole truck is an eyesore. Fugly fucking things... If a liberal broad had wheels attached... the 19+ silverado would be the end result. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:58:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooooo GM needed two trucks to outsell Ford is what you're saying. GMC Sierra only exists because of fleet sales of larger trucks. It's essentially the same truck (as Chevy) with a slightly different look and different badging. If they stopped making the GMC, most of those buyers would just get a Chevy. GM could even restructure and add Chevy pickups to those GMC fleet dealers. Being the same truck that rolls off the same assembly lines, it makes perfect sense to combine their sales numbers. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:59:25 PM EDT
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I will never buy a new truck again. Way too complicated, too fancy, too many compromises to comply with regulations. I don't need a truck to be a luxury vehicle. I want a radio, heater, rubber floormats, analog instrumentation, bench seat, manual everything, and a sturdy and easy to service drivetrain and suspension.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GMC Sierra only exists because of fleet sales of larger trucks. It's essentially the same truck (as Chevy) with a slightly different look and different badging. If they stopped making the GMC, most of those buyers would just get a Chevy. GM could even restructure and add Chevy pickups to those GMC fleet dealers. Being the same truck that rolls off the same assembly lines, it makes perfect sense to combine their sales numbers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sooooo GM needed two trucks to outsell Ford is what you're saying. GMC Sierra only exists because of fleet sales of larger trucks. It's essentially the same truck (as Chevy) with a slightly different look and different badging. If they stopped making the GMC, most of those buyers would just get a Chevy. GM could even restructure and add Chevy pickups to those GMC fleet dealers. Being the same truck that rolls off the same assembly lines, it makes perfect sense to combine their sales numbers. That seems the opposite of any fleet makeup that I see down here (and that's if they even buy GMs at all, bulk are ford superduties). GMC is never the fleet truck, always chevys. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GMC Sierra only exists because of fleet sales of larger trucks. It's essentially the same truck (as Chevy) with a slightly different look and different badging. If they stopped making the GMC, most of those buyers would just get a Chevy. GM could even restructure and add Chevy pickups to those GMC fleet dealers. Being the same truck that rolls off the same assembly lines, it makes perfect sense to combine their sales numbers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sooooo GM needed two trucks to outsell Ford is what you're saying. GMC Sierra only exists because of fleet sales of larger trucks. It's essentially the same truck (as Chevy) with a slightly different look and different badging. If they stopped making the GMC, most of those buyers would just get a Chevy. GM could even restructure and add Chevy pickups to those GMC fleet dealers. Being the same truck that rolls off the same assembly lines, it makes perfect sense to combine their sales numbers. Theyd be doing themselves a bigger favor by killing off Chevy trucks & continue producing GMCs. The new Chevy trucks have to be the ugliest truck ever made. Edit. They could take a lesson out of FCA playbook and have Chevrolet as a car & small suv/crossover brand, Cadillac as a luxury brand, and GMC as the truck/truck based suv brand. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: does anyone else keep going back and forth between wanting a diesel and not wanting a diesel engine? People smarter and more experienced than me keep talking down diesels because of emissions regs. If I were to get an HD truck it would almost certainly be a gasser unless I was running a hauling business. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:26:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The 1500's ain't bad. The HD's have a face only a mother could love, and that's coming from a guy that owns one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/461668/20210108_121038_jpg-1769862.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you show a picture of the HD truck, not the half ton? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145716/Screenshot_20210108-123419_Chrome_jpg-1769814.JPG This. The 1500's ain't bad. The HD's have a face only a mother could love, and that's coming from a guy that owns one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/461668/20210108_121038_jpg-1769862.JPG get yourself a grill guard, it'll act like a truck burka |
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