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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:31:46 AM EST
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Russia will block the retreat then surround them. It will end badly of they stay for long.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:33:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Palm: Are the Ukrainians going to steal all the Russian’s toilets like the Russians did to the Ukrainians when the invaded Ukraine? Steal them back, you mean. And, who'd want a toilet that the Russians had been shitting on? 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:34:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: This ends when the Ukraine leaves Russia and they go back to pre-August 2024 borders!  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:37:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: Sebastian_MacMaine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here...  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: How do the Ukes go from losing their ass on all fronts, to organizing enough manpower and equipment to launch an offensive that has carried them 200km into Russia and captured a number of Russian towns? Something is fucky here... I see you read ZeroHedge too. The problem is, you believed ZeroHedge instead of recognizing it as a Russian propaganda outlet. Sad! Many such cases. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-defenses-collapse-what-can-us-patriots-learn-conflict Authored by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.us Saturday, Aug 03, 2024 - 10:20 PM In my article ‘Russia Is About To Overrun Ukraine’s Defenses – Why Are There No Peace Negotiations’, published in May, I outlined my reasons for predicting a near term collapse of Ukrainian front line defenses and a sweeping territory grab by Russian forces. 
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:38:48 AM EST
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:39:07 AM EST
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:39:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luscioman: Russia will block the retreat then surround them. It will end badly of they stay for long. Russia has almost nothing in that area, so unlikely. They don't have a great number of reserves to pull from to rapidly move into the area. You also assume that the Ukrainians have a desire to try and hold onto that area; which I really don't think is the case. If they do try, then given time, it would very likely end badly. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:42:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Well we will all sit by and wait while you draft an official position on the matter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By 1cheapshot: First, I haven’t confirmed or debunked this report. If true it’s damned interesting. And it’s one thing to make an incursion. It’s a whole different thing to hold it. I’m thinking it’s a bold strategy Cotton…. Well we will all sit by and wait while you draft an official position on the matter. I read his post and I thought who is this guy? I'm holding my breath waiting on his expert analysis. Meanwhile over on telegram the Russians are having a fit, some of their comments are interesting to say the least. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:44:35 AM EST
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Nothingburger. A minor Dolittle raid at best.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:45:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: FlashHole]
[#10]
Would be hilarious if at the end of this all, the Russians lose territory
ETA....Yes, I know it won't happen. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:45:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: Hope they don’t rape and kidnap the Russian women! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/IMG_3459_jpeg-3288022.JPG 3, 4, 2, 1 |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:46:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon:
Everyone knows that according to International Law of Special Military Operations, the country being invaded is not allowed to enter the territory of the aggressor state. Ukraine is going to regret this. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:50:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKPDW: Nothingburger. A minor Dolittle raid at best. Capturing Sudzha could lead to a lot of havoc being wrought, if they choose to. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:51:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKPDW: Nothingburger. A minor Dolittle raid at best. Ukraine is not winning. That is my standard disclaimer from now on. Dropping Iskander's onto your own villages is not a minor raid. The Russians are using them to knock out individual BMP's and Bradley's in this "minor" raid. Why Ukraine is doing this I have no idea because it is not going to end well. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:53:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ryu: Square miles. I did a double-take, too. It's just a raid far from the front-lines, though. It'll be back to normal in about a week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evil_Ryu: Originally Posted By delemorte: They captured 126 miles in a day? I doubt anyone capture 126 miles in a day. Did someone make it past the front to 136 miles behind the line? Possibly. Square miles. I did a double-take, too. It's just a raid far from the front-lines, though. It'll be back to normal in about a week. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:55:35 AM EST
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I would imagine Russian troops morale will be high defending Russian territory this might even get more support for the war. What about that north Korean defense pact?
Either way interesting to watch from so far away glad I got nobody in Either of those places. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:55:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luscioman: Russia will block the retreat then surround them. It will end badly of they stay for long. Reports by Russians say a Russian reserve unit that entered into the area to counterattack the Ukrainian s is now surrounded. Maybe what you say happens….but the Russians haven’t said that and are saying the opposite. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 9:56:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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The Russian TASS news agency just put out a call from the Russian Foreign Ministry asking the “world to condemn the Kyiv regimes attack on sovereign Russian territory”.
Some real comical shit lol. This is real. https://x.com/Archer83Able/status/1821188448130359617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:00:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nophun: Suicide. The Russian will murder them and every house, dog, and child who gets in the way.  This smells more of a sacrifice to drag others into this mess. The Russians have been doing that since the war started.... |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:01:59 AM EST
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"The
Fuck Russia. The obvious goal with these cross border raids is to force Russia to stretch already thin resources to secure the thousands of miles of border nowhere near the front line. If the Russian citizenry gets feel what it's like to be invaded, even if only for a little while, so much the better. I hope the burn the shit out of every square km they walk through, praise be upon Sherman. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:05:37 AM EST
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The best defense is a good offense. Its about time they got off their asses and used some of that military aid to good effect. Now, if you really mean it, keep pushing.
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:06:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SiVisPacem: It's just a small incursion. It's just caused a small dent, a bulge, if you will, in the Russian lines. There's never been a time in recorded military history where a bulge in the lines has had any impact on the prosecution of a war, such as diverting enemy forces to counter that bulge. That would be nuts. what you did there... |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:09:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: Hope they don't rape and kidnap the Russian women! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/IMG_3459_jpeg-3288022.JPG 
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:11:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: The Russian TASS news agency just put out a call from the Russian Foreign Ministry asking the “world to condemn the Kyiv regimes attack on sovereign Russian territory”. Some real comical shit lol. This is real. https://x.com/Archer83Able/status/1821188448130359617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:16:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Everyone knows that according to International Law of Special Military Operations (better known as Responsibility-2-Protect), the country being invaded is not allowed to enter the territory of the aggressor state. Ukraine is going to regret this. Look at Libya. It never recovered. But man-on-man rape did go up. The Samantha Powers CIA NATO State Department paradox (same people there- same people here). |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:19:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKPDW: Nothingburger. A minor Dolittle raid at best. Depends on how deep Ukraine can get, and what facilities they can get inside. Kursk has a population of about half a million, if Ukraine can get into power and gas infrastructure supporting the city, they can do immense damage (politically and economically) by taking them out of commission. A demolition team with experts guiding them can do a lot more damage than drones from the air. Plus several key rail corridors going down from Kursk. Again, much easier to do a thorough controlled demolition of bridges if you control the ground. Taking those railroads out of commission hampers Russian logistics considerably. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:23:15 AM EST
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Just skimming here but I’ve gotta ask those that know and post in these threads…..
Is this a Russian army collapse? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:28:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon:
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:29:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabre_kc: Just skimming here but I’ve gotta ask those that know and post in these threads….. Is this a Russian army collapse? Can't collapse if they weren't even really there. Sounds like Russia hardly had any defenses or units in place, thinking Ukraine wouldn't have the balls and manpower to make a bigger incursion into Russia than they did before. From what I can read, this is at a minimum a loud sharp bitchslap back at the Russians, with potential to be an actual significant punch. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:30:44 AM EST
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gAmE oVEr fOuR rUsHA
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:32:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911: Russia has almost nothing in that area, so unlikely. They don't have a great number of reserves to pull from to rapidly move into the area. You also assume that the Ukrainians have a desire to try and hold onto that area; which I really don't think is the case. If they do try, then given time, it would very likely end badly. it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:33:52 AM EST
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The battle of Kursk playing out again, excellent news!
Did the Romans order this for their colosseum |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:34:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: Originally Posted By Birddog1911: Russia has almost nothing in that area, so unlikely. They don't have a great number of reserves to pull from to rapidly move into the area. You also assume that the Ukrainians have a desire to try and hold onto that area; which I really don't think is the case. If they do try, then given time, it would very likely end badly. it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess What source are you using for the size of the force? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:35:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: Originally Posted By Birddog1911: Russia has almost nothing in that area, so unlikely. They don't have a great number of reserves to pull from to rapidly move into the area. You also assume that the Ukrainians have a desire to try and hold onto that area; which I really don't think is the case. If they do try, then given time, it would very likely end badly. it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess Thanks for informing us Vlad! lol, that’s some goofy shit. “They have been destroyed comrade!” |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:36:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nmxdavenn:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6SVSQhRfOAThis comments sums it up nicely imo. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/478694/IMG_2914_jpeg-3287978.JPG |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:37:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I don’t know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia’s unprovoked invasion  True 203 sq kms (link in the op) is a box 9 miles on a side so not gigantic but good for Ukraine. Creates unfavorable optics for the Russians and probably causes them to burn up resources chasing the Ukranian forces. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:37:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomad07: Originally Posted By Birddog1911: Russia has almost nothing in that area, so unlikely. They don't have a great number of reserves to pull from to rapidly move into the area. You also assume that the Ukrainians have a desire to try and hold onto that area; which I really don't think is the case. If they do try, then given time, it would very likely end badly. it was 300 men and 30 armoured vehicles half were destroyed in the first few hours... this is what? like 20th time Ukies have done this? everytime, they kill some civlians then get wiped out....but the "Muh russia losing..." masturbation fantasy must continue i guess Go ahead and cite your sources. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:38:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luscioman: Russia will block the retreat then surround them. It will end badly of they stay for long.  If this is true, it sounds like they got caught pants down. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:39:09 AM EST
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No one is winning this without canned sunshine or fallout continental war.....meanwhile China..the real shitbag is co-oping more and more area in the pacific for bases
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:39:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sporter: gAmE oVEr fOuR rUsHA I love it when the nasty Putinites out themselves. 
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:41:15 AM EST
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6 August 2024: Key takeaways from this evening's Ukraine Update by the great team at the Institute for the Study of War:
- Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted a series of cross border raids into Kursk Oblast on August 6. - Russian milbloggers largely dismissed the supposed Ukrainian raids into Kursk Oblast, and Ukrainian officials have largely yet to comment on the raids. - Russian Security Council Secretary and former Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu heavily overexaggerated Russian advances in Ukraine since mid-June 2024. - Russian officials continue coordination and military cooperation with Iran ahead of the Iranian retaliatory strike against Israel out of concern for Russian interests in the region. NOTE: a version of this text appears in ISW-CTP's August 6 Iran Update. - Armenia continues to abstain from the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). - Russian forces advanced east of Toretsk. - The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reportedly issued a formal reply denying a request from the wives of the mobilized Russian personnel to meet with Russian Defense Minister Andrei Belousov. 
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:42:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Depends on how deep Ukraine can get, and what facilities they can get inside. Kursk has a population of about half a million, if Ukraine can get into power and gas infrastructure supporting the city, they can do immense damage (politically and economically) by taking them out of commission. A demolition team with experts guiding them can do a lot more damage than drones from the air. Plus several key rail corridors going down from Kursk. Again, much easier to do a thorough controlled demolition of bridges if you control the ground. Taking those railroads out of commission hampers Russian logistics considerably. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By HKPDW: Nothingburger. A minor Dolittle raid at best. Depends on how deep Ukraine can get, and what facilities they can get inside. Kursk has a population of about half a million, if Ukraine can get into power and gas infrastructure supporting the city, they can do immense damage (politically and economically) by taking them out of commission. A demolition team with experts guiding them can do a lot more damage than drones from the air. Plus several key rail corridors going down from Kursk. Again, much easier to do a thorough controlled demolition of bridges if you control the ground. Taking those railroads out of commission hampers Russian logistics considerably. They haven't made it to the actual Kursk city , they're in the border city of Sudzha still. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:43:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Russian commentators have noted that three gas pipelines to Western Europe meet at a metering station at Sudzha, which Ukraine just captured. Should the metering station be unmanned by the evacuation of the staff or be damaged by an errant bomb (or "errant" bomb) Russia would be unable to bill their customers, which they were still supplying as far as I can tell, albeit at a declining quantity as contracts run out. So this could develop into a significant blow to their finances. Also there's the nuclear power plant that the Ukrainian offensive is approaching. OOFF,,, I'm sure a couple large bricks of C4(or "Z4 " as russians call it) would do BAD things to a gas pipeline if said town was under attack, and id imagine that would be some serious lost income for a couple years while pipeline was patched in a war zone... |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:43:52 AM EST
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It’s definitely changes the dynamic and also puts some negotiating power in the hands of Ukraine. Just playing defense will not win this for them.
Hopefully they can hold it and take more. But I also This could just lead to more attacks on civilians and Russian launching massive missile attacks on populated areas. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:46:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I don’t know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia’s unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:50:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: Commando223]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigB32: Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. I'll never understand why people care so much about Ukraine here is it because Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi told you to? It's very interesting to watch from far away but do you Ukebros all have family in Ukraine or something? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:50:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:50:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigB32: Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigB32: Originally Posted By eurotrash: I don’t know why these threads create so much resentment. You all should be happy Ukraine scored a win today. Unless you support Russia’s unprovoked invasion Because our government is pouring money into a losing war (where Ukraine has no realistic chance of winning alone ) with no realistic plan to end it. Europe won’t do what it takes to hurt Russia’s economy and the longer this goes on, the more civilians die. I see these posts constantly. I don’t see follows up posts with the posters suggestions for ending the war other than “surrender to Russia”. Correct me if I’m assuming here, but is your idea of “stopping the war” surrender to Russia? Is that the only idea out there to “stop the war”? |
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:51:12 AM EST
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I thought Ukraine had a man shortage , would be a shame if they got encircled by Ivan .
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Posted: 8/7/2024 10:52:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
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