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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 12:25:16 AM EST
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Kak. Dsg had em for $59 with the buffer kit and all the goodies. Grabbed two. Use your discount.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 12:49:36 AM EST
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Kak. Dsg had em for $59 with the buffer kit and all the goodies. Grabbed two. Use your discount.
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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 12:57:52 AM EST
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I've built 2 AR pistols and both have the Shockwave.  Its the simplest, about the cheapest and works the best, in my opinion.  After all, its mainly just a stock like accessory while we cheek rest the pistol during firing.  The tailhooks, sliding braces, etc, are highly expensive and in the end you will just cheek weld it for best results.

You can use the standard PISTOL buffer tube for the Shockwave.  On the top one I just drilled a small dimple in the tube and on the second one I used the KAK dimpled tube.  Both worked just fine.



Link Posted: 8/3/2017 1:08:41 AM EST
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Just put a stock on it.

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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 1:11:59 AM EST
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I've built 2 AR pistols and both have the Shockwave.  Its the simplest, about the cheapest and works the best, in my opinion.  After all, its mainly just a stock like accessory while we cheek rest the pistol during firing.  The tailhooks, sliding braces, etc, are highly expensive and in the end you will just cheek weld it for best results.

You can use the standard PISTOL buffer tube for the Shockwave.  On the top one I just drilled a small dimple in the tube and on the second one I used the KAK dimpled tube.  Both worked just fine.

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Thank you.

I'm pretty certain that I'm going to just dimple the pistol buffer tube that's on it and add the Shockwave (if it fits). It seems to be the lightest available accessory of it's type, and the price is very good.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 1:29:04 AM EST
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I just run with the Phase 5 tube as is, but I assembled mine for the sole intention of working around PA laws.  I was still delivering pizzas part time at the time, and the neighborhood I was living in at the time made national news a few times because of all the fucked up shit going on in that town.  By the time these hit the market I had already found that it worked pretty well for the parameters I arbitrarily set for it without a brace.  As with all things there is a trade-off, but having what amounts to a rifle that is legally a pistol and therefore can be carried loaded and ready as such as per PA law was more than enough justification for me to drop $1500 at the time on what was considered pointless by many on this forum.

It tucks nicely between the seats and console, even in my Civic, is easy to get on the sights while seat belted in, it fits nicely into quite a few loopholes, and I am getting the best use of my powder with it being chambered in 300AAC.  I want to build another one and modify a bump fire system to a brace as an ultimate fuck you to the ATF, but I have cut back on my firearms spending until further notice in lieu of putting my money in other investments - I have what I need and then some already.  Maybe I'll build two simply because the idea of dual wielding not automatic not rifles kind of makes my freedom boner move a bit.

But that was REALLY nice to have when I got lost in Memphis on my way to meet Army_of_Ender to adopt a dog, and I didn't have to declare that I would be travelling through idk how many states prior to making the trip that I decided to make on a whim.  This is ARFCOM, why not get both.  
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Geebus H Cartwheeling Christ! Neighborhood can't be all that bad if you can afford a $1500 pistol delivering pizzas part time.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 1:47:52 AM EST
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Og sig brace user

Good for you op not wanting to pay the tax to sbr.
While it's a revenue stream the nfa will go no where.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 1:56:49 AM EST
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I just finished my first pistol build, so this thread is well timed.  I will be looking at the Sig brace and SBM4 brace tomorrow.  I like the looks of the SBM4 brace a lot, hopefully it works as well as (I think) it looks.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 2:26:34 AM EST
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Sig brace is comfortable to me. I haven't tried any others.

Brace bumps right up to this KAK Super Sig Buffer Tube




Tight fitting as hell, but that is probably a good thing.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 2:52:55 AM EST
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Shockwave. Because it's priced right.

With how the laws/regs/opinions regarding braces are fluid, I wouldn't put too much money into them.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 2:59:19 AM EST
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Yeah, it's nice. But I can't see spending $400 for something that I'll never strap to my arm. Price drops to $200, then I'd reconsider.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 3:05:15 AM EST
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Maxim defense cqb pistol on my ar pistol.




Edit I paid more for the trigger in it than the brace.
I paid more for the can for it than the brace.
Grabagun ran the brace on sale for just over 300.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 4:21:49 AM EST
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Why the heck doesn't the BATF/Congress/whoever just remove SBR/SBS from the NFA?

Braces make the whole thing ridiculous/hypocritical ...........

Suppressors too, of course.

Just think how fast MG transfers would be without suppressors/SBR/SBS in the mix .............
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 4:41:55 AM EST
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Made me lol!
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 4:43:32 AM EST
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shockwave life for truck gun.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 4:45:33 AM EST
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Trick question.

No one is cool with an arm brace.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 4:49:02 AM EST
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Trick question.

No one is cool with an arm brace.
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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 5:09:04 AM EST
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Pick up that can, citizen.
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A SBR is what the cool kids use.
Pick up that can, citizen.
The brace is only one bureaucratic letter away from illegal.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 5:18:51 AM EST
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What's the blue shit on the end?
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 5:33:21 AM EST
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A stamp.

Kharn
Can you hunt with an SBR in CO?  Can you have an SBR loaded(round in chamber) in your vehicle?  (spoiler: no,no)
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 5:34:24 AM EST
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The big plus for me is I can have a loaded pistol in my car, but not a loaded rifle. 
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+1 

Same in PA.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 5:48:01 AM EST
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Trick question.

No one is cool with an arm brace.
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It makes a lot of sense for LEOSA. 
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 6:22:12 AM EST
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I have several stamps but damn what a pain in the ass to travel. Gonna go the brace route when I travel.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 6:52:36 AM EST
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Same in PA.
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Same here.

No point paying Uncle Sugar the $200.00 then wait a indeterminate amount of time for them to allow me to build something I can't carry in my vehicle loaded nor take across state lines without permission with.

I'd not put a "real stock" on but one of my pistol builds even if I could do it for free.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:00:36 AM EST
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Same in PA.
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In PA an SBR is "firearm," not a rifle.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:07:57 AM EST
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Same here.

No point paying Uncle Sugar the $200.00 then wait a indeterminate amount of time for them to allow me to build something I can't carry in my vehicle loaded nor take across state lines without permission with.

I'd not put a "real stock" on but one of my pistol builds even if I could do it for free.
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This.  Why ask permission - in writing - in advance - just to cross an invisible state line?

NFA laws are dumb.  Until we can convince our government to change them, I will enjoy all the SBR benefits using a blade without jumping through all the hoops.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:12:35 AM EST
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I'm still a little way from completing my first AR pistol.

Has anyone used the Thordsen buffer with cheek rest?

What about the Phase 5?
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:17:36 AM EST
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A stamp will still be approved when the ATF changes their minds again
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:22:47 AM EST
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That genie is way too far out of the bottle


$50 Shockwave kits and $20 SBx's for the win
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:29:52 AM EST
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LOL, close to 400 for not a  stock.

A sucker born every minute.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:31:32 AM EST
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Same in PA.
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The big plus for me is I can have a loaded pistol in my car, but not a loaded rifle. 
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Same in PA.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:17:43 AM EST
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Cower to government fiat more.  
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:29:33 AM EST
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Shockwave on a PSA pistol tube works great
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:34:49 AM EST
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this + this.  And it is less than a Maxim.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:46:31 AM EST
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No. They use SL-k. Old people use CTR stocks
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:56:32 AM EST
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Honey Badger pistol thing with a Maxim Defense PDW brace:

Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:08:45 AM EST
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I've been looking in the AR pistol section, but the information seems pretty disjointed. 

I just ordered a pistol AR kit, and I'm trying to determine what brace is going to go on it. So far, the Shockwave seems to make the most sense, but it requires a very specific proprietary buffer tube, right?

What are the other options that aren't total crap??
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Stocks.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:13:23 AM EST
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Trick question.

No one is cool with an arm brace.
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This.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:17:50 AM EST
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I have the thordsen setup on a kak extended tube and like it,  waiting for my $20 sbx brace to get here. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:32:43 AM EST
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Log in to DSG and send them a copy of your credentials. It's well worth it. They had me signed up within an hour.

LEO/MIL DSG
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:33:26 AM EST
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I like my tail hook on my vltor a5 pistol and then the shockwave on the 22. Pics with same upper but you get the idea.


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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:33:46 AM EST
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Shockwaves
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:46:57 AM EST
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Only once the mod-2 comes out.
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Tailhook..
Only once the mod-2 comes out.
Release date?
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:49:29 AM EST
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Sometimes PSA has them for less.  I saw one a few weeks back as a complete pistol lower for around $350.

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Damn, I missed that.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 10:33:58 AM EST
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That's the thing. I'm hearing the end of the month, which probably means maybe by the end of the year.

I'm growing impatient.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:06:00 AM EST
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Geez that all sbr and braces stock is retarded..
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:10:48 AM EST
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I have a Sig M400 pistol with their brace on it. I generally don't like wasting my time building anything. I like the M400 pistol set up.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:15:30 AM EST
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this + this.  And it is less than a Maxim.
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Are you certain that's a pistol arm brace??  It says "stock" on the site, which would either be felony without a stamp, or a lame 1 yr wait, required engraving, and no ability to travel interstate without asking the ATF "pretty please?"
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:19:01 AM EST
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Im pretty fucking cool and I just swapped out my black sb15 for a fde sbx from the 20 dollar sale the other day.
Ill probably use the sb15 on my next pistol build since I already own it.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:20:34 AM EST
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I have the Kak and love it. I like the extended tubes like Odin Works and a foam pad, or Spikes tube cover. I can shoot them just as comfortably and not spend a fortune.
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