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Posted: 2/11/2022 5:29:07 PM EDT
[#1]
Probably due to a bunch of 3G patent lawsuits recently. My prepaid phone is still on 2G lol.
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Posted: 2/11/2022 5:35:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Just got a text from Boost Mobile saying that my phone will stop working in the coming weeks due to 3G being phased out. I didn't read the whole thread but... Imagine you own a company that builds components for 3G devices. The first year, 2001, you build 1 million components and do that for the next 6 or 7 years until 4G comes out because almost everyone wants faster service. Now your orders drop to a couple hundred components for 3G and everyone wants you to build more 4G components so eventually you stop making 3G stuff. The phone company can no longer get 3G parts so they keep it running for as long as they can. Unfortunately you are a little drop in a sea of 4 and 5G users and the phone company can no longer support you. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 5:42:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Nothing to worry about unless you have a heart pump. I wonder what else will get hosed. Old G
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Posted: 2/11/2022 5:45:36 PM EDT
[#4]
Get with the times!
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Posted: 2/11/2022 5:47:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My phone has a manual transmission, crank windows and no air conditioning. Do you step on it to get your high-beams? |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 5:58:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Could easily keep the equipment going. 3G spectral efficiency sucks due to being fixed to data or voice. You cannot dynamically allocate bandwidth based on the user's need like you can with 4 and 5G. Better to upgrade and make better use of the finite resource (spectrum).
You cant sell a surveillance network to the totalitarian government without squeezing the most out of spectrum. How is every electronic device supposed to send in all that data its recording. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:07:40 PM EDT
[#7]
remember CDMA and what was the other one.. GSM? the old bag phone and motorola startac days
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:08:26 PM EDT
[#8]
OP still uses an USR 28k modem
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:17:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They need the bandwidth used by 3g. I thought it was common knowledge that carries were phasing out 3g in a week or so. If you have a Subaru with their safety plan, like OnStar, they were replacing the 3g modem with a 4g modem at no cost to you as part of their service. I thought that was pretty good support. Did other car makers do that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought I heard on the radio it had to do with interference with 5g. Not sure I believe. They need the bandwidth used by 3g. I thought it was common knowledge that carries were phasing out 3g in a week or so. If you have a Subaru with their safety plan, like OnStar, they were replacing the 3g modem with a 4g modem at no cost to you as part of their service. I thought that was pretty good support. Did other car makers do that? |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  Two words for you: CARRIER PIGEON Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intercepting / "hacking" old cell phones is considerably easier from a hardware point of view. That's why I stick to land lines. Those have never been hacked, ever! Two words for you: CARRIER PIGEON I have two more words for you: BIRDS AREN'T REAL |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:35:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You see, when a mommy cell tower and a daddy cell tower get together.... Basically it's old tech. It's not worth it to maintain the infrastructure when there's something markedly better. It will also free up bandwidth to use with better technologies. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:39:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ADT did mine for free and when I told them I'd think about it they lowered my quarterly bill by 1/3. They have jacked up my bill to $57mo, I'm about to get a new system from an independent local place and monitoring is only $15mo. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 7:11:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They also phased out 1G and 2G. The tech was amused to upgrayyed to 3G. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 7:17:25 PM EDT
[#14]
ATT sent me a free iPhone XR to replace my old iPhone 4. No contract, no additional expense, and it was unsolicited.
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Posted: 2/11/2022 7:25:04 PM EDT
[#15]
THOSE BASTARDS! I just had the vacuum tubes replaced in my phone!
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Posted: 2/11/2022 7:36:50 PM EDT
[#16]
It has been on the way out for ten years or more. Now what are they going to throttle you to? Simple, they will do what they promised not to.
I can't say if this is "The" shutdown, as it has been pushed back several times already. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 8:45:13 PM EDT
[#17]
From OP:
Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:18:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... Do you still have a fucking flip phone? |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:21:35 PM EDT
[#19]
The world of mobile handset technology is a strange and mysterious place.
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:22:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From OP: Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. Sure will. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:23:32 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: remember CDMA and what was the other one.. GSM? the old bag phone and motorola startac days CDMA and GSM, which was TDMA |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:23:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have two more words for you: BIRDS AREN'T REAL Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intercepting / "hacking" old cell phones is considerably easier from a hardware point of view. That's why I stick to land lines. Those have never been hacked, ever! Two words for you: CARRIER PIGEON I have two more words for you: BIRDS AREN'T REAL 5 WORDS CHECK MAYE |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:26:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Just got a text from Boost Mobile saying that my phone will stop working in the coming weeks due to 3G being phased out. By end of year 3g will be all turned off. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:27:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From OP: Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. Maybe. Some older phones used 4G LTE for data but 3G for voice. These phones will also go offline for calling, if they don’t support VoLTE (Voice over 4G LTE). Lots of older stuff doesn’t. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:29:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure will. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From OP: Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. Sure will. Good. Not sure why they sent that text. And the ONLY reason I have a smartphone is for texting. For phone calls, my flip phone was superior. Also, smaller, lighter, better battery life, less delicate... The smartphone camera is nice though. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:29:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: even if you are still rocking a flip phone it's not hard to bug it and get your location Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So many youngsters willing to carry a tracking device with a microphone. Makes no sense. Oh yeah... gotta watch my tik tok vids. even if you are still rocking a flip phone it's not hard to bug it and get your location Well, yes, but you can pull the battery out if you want, and if it's a true dumb phone, it won't have the intertial sensor, the multiple high quality cameras, the near field communications (short range wireless coms that are not bluetooth), altitude, and other sensors built in, and it likely won't have the hardware to run the software that's built to snitch so you can have adverts sent to you. You can still be gotten by the mandated 911 gps and tower triangulation, but all that extra data is not being sent. Such as apple knowing your walking gait, which is an identifiable trait. No good reason to play along and make life easy for all the madison avenue peeping toms (who in turn are peeped on by the government). |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:30:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes but I have never seen an official date Just always "soon" Im in telematics and theres a bunch of 3G modems out there. Yayyyy Ooh hadn't thought of that. I have some 3G hobby modems that will be toast too. 
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:33:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From OP: Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. If it has 4g that will work on your carrier's 4g freqencies, it should. Customer service should know. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:35:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From OP: Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. Check on you phone carrier website. They will have a list of phones that they will support. Not all of the 4g phones use 4g for voice, some of them just used it for data. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:35:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They also phased out 1G and 2G. Was the original OG? |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:35:28 PM EDT
[#31]
Here is some irony, my sprint/t-mobile Samsung S10+ stopped getting data the other day. I would have to restart the phone, update the PRL, and it would work for 15 minutes, go into roaming, then no data at all.
T-mobile just shutoff the Sprint towers in my AO.... T-mobile will also be killing 3G March 31st. I had to go get a new SIM today. Also ordered a new Samsung S22Ultra as a replacement. They gave me a $900 credit on my S10+.....
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:36:36 PM EDT
[#32]
For those who don't care to go with the herd: https://dumbphones.pory.app/
Dumb/feature phone finder. Even has a feature for 4g voice over lte (4gvolte) capable phones. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:38:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Once something costs more to maintain than it's worth......
Look at all the divorce threads here. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:41:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They've been running 3G at the minimum required by the FCC for about 4 years around here. I'm going to miss 3G. There's a lot of the country that isn't covered by 4G and I imagine 5G is going to be even worse. My camp I can't get a useful 4G signal but can use 3G. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:45:02 PM EDT
[#35]
I heard beta max is on its way out
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:48:44 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have jacked up my bill to $57mo, I'm about to get a new system from an independent local place and monitoring is only $15mo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ADT did mine for free and when I told them I'd think about it they lowered my quarterly bill by 1/3. They have jacked up my bill to $57mo, I'm about to get a new system from an independent local place and monitoring is only $15mo. Yea, my ex security company charged me $300 to change a $2 part. Took about 45 seconds. Then wanted to put me back under contract for three more years. All explained after the tech left, who was there to pair a smoke detector. They are my EX security company now, and they just didn't care about losing a customer. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:54:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to miss 3G. There's a lot of the country that isn't covered by 4G and I imagine 5G is going to be even worse. My camp I can't get a useful 4G signal but can use 3G. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They've been running 3G at the minimum required by the FCC for about 4 years around here. I'm going to miss 3G. There's a lot of the country that isn't covered by 4G and I imagine 5G is going to be even worse. My camp I can't get a useful 4G signal but can use 3G. Good. Keep shrinking that coverage.
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Posted: 2/11/2022 10:37:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So many youngsters willing to carry a tracking device with a microphone. Makes no sense. Oh yeah... gotta watch my tik tok vids. I have a smart phone and don’t use tik tok. Literallly every old person I know has a similar phone. Guess what, you are being spied on either way. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 10:50:54 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP still has a rotary house phone too |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 10:53:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Nanobots can't function on 3G
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Posted: 2/11/2022 10:54:18 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was the original OG? ZeroG |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 10:58:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the LTE coverage got better out here in the sticks (15 miles from town) but Im sure there are other places where the only thing that worked is 3G. It's going to be exciting to see people complain next hunting season how their expensive cellural game cams no longer work lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You see, when a mommy cell tower and a daddy cell tower get together.... Basically it's old tech. It's not worth it to maintain the infrastructure when there's something markedly better. It will also free up bandwidth to use with better technologies. 4G does not work at all near me at my camp. I often see vehicles sitting on the tops of hills with people talking on their cellphones because that's the only way they can get a signal. This is a case of city people being unable to imagine a world where you aren't right next to a bunch of cell towers. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 10:58:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Making way for new technology.. they announced this was coming forever ago
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:06:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also 3g doesn't penetrate tin foil like 5g can. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:14:36 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any idea how long 4g will last? No idea, but I’m still building new 4G cell sites. I’m fairly new to wireless so still learning the ins and outs (coming up on 1 year) but we usually build them with 5G on the same pole. Down in Rio Grande Valley we’re still building a lot of standalone 4G sites, though. I’ve also been noticing 3G has already been turned off at a lot of tower sites. The old 3G cabinets are still there but they’re powered down. ETA: I prefer just building 5G sites because the radios are a lot lighter. 4G radios are a PIA. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:18:04 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: Just got a text from Boost Mobile saying that my phone will stop working in the coming weeks due to 3G being phased out. Are you also mad Microsoft quit releasing updates for your Windows XP computer? |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:18:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Kind of like my old Nokia 3310. It just gets phased out.
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:21:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe. Some older phones used 4G LTE for data but 3G for voice. These phones will also go offline for calling, if they don't support VoLTE (Voice over 4G LTE). Lots of older stuff doesn't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From OP: Well, I just looked at my phone manual. It's a 4G phone. I'm currently connected using 4G LTE. Should my phone keep working after they kill 3G? Don't care about speed because I don't use my phone for internet. Maybe. Some older phones used 4G LTE for data but 3G for voice. These phones will also go offline for calling, if they don't support VoLTE (Voice over 4G LTE). Lots of older stuff doesn't. I'd been getting texts for months telling me my phone was going to be unsupported, but I assumed they were more spam trying to get me to click on the hyperlink in the texts. I get text spam like crazy. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:22:12 PM EDT
[#49]
You city boys think you’re hot stuff with your fancy 5g signal, you ain’t nothing but two-bit dandy’s.
Us simple country folk gonna be rockin the ol 4g for a long time yet. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 11:24:55 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No idea, but I’m still building new 4G cell sites. I’m fairly new to wireless so still learning the ins and outs (coming up on 1 year) but we usually build them with 5G on the same pole. Down in Rio Grande Valley we’re still building a lot of standalone 4G sites, though. I’ve also been noticing 3G has already been turned off at a lot of tower sites. The old 3G cabinets are still there but they’re powered down. ETA: I prefer just building 5G sites because the radios are a lot lighter. 4G radios are a PIA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any idea how long 4g will last? No idea, but I’m still building new 4G cell sites. I’m fairly new to wireless so still learning the ins and outs (coming up on 1 year) but we usually build them with 5G on the same pole. Down in Rio Grande Valley we’re still building a lot of standalone 4G sites, though. I’ve also been noticing 3G has already been turned off at a lot of tower sites. The old 3G cabinets are still there but they’re powered down. ETA: I prefer just building 5G sites because the radios are a lot lighter. 4G radios are a PIA. *laughs in 300 watt pager transmitters and 7 ft tall ge mastr cabinets* |
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