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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:06:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: COVID vaccination card Don't forget the anal swab! You can't be too careful these days... |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:10:45 AM EDT
[#2]
Dinero
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:35:12 AM EDT
[#3]
I require triple vacc and triple ?? .......if they show up like that I just give it to them for free... 3 for free I say!
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:11:35 AM EDT
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Would take picture of their license bare minimum. Last time I sold to a stranger, which was many years ago, I luckily checked his license. I wrote down the basic info. (This was before phone cameras.). Got a call from the ATF some months afterwards wanting to know who I sold it too. Gave them the guys name and the ATF guy said “this guy is known to us”. I guess he had been buying guns in Maine and selling them illicitly in Mass. Funny thing is this guy showed up in a company truck. Didn’t hesitate to show me his license and we had a short but good chat. One of the most secure feelings I had when I sold a gun FTF. After that I didn’t sell to strangers anymore.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:16:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I ask them if they're legally able to purchase and to see the cash. This and we usually flash DL/CPL's |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:17:17 AM EDT
[#6]
Any firearm transaction between me and another private party must take place in my dimly lit unfinished basement or a random dark alley.
If they aren’t willing to honor my terms they won’t be conducting business with me. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:20:40 AM EDT
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I figure it demonstrates due diligence to see their ID to show state residency and confirm they're of legal age. I hate that the law exists, but I did have an underage guy try to buy something once that got a little tense when I had to tell him no. Big thanks to Rick Scott and the anti-gun coward caucus in the FL GOP for that one...
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:26:38 AM EDT
[#8]
A reach around.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:32:08 AM EDT
[#9]
Money and bill of sale that states they attest that they are legal to own it.
Pistol, above plus Driver's license. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:35:11 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I ask them if they're legally able to purchase and to see the cash. don't over complicate it |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:53:45 AM EDT
[#11]
I need to see their cash, silver, or trade, and a driver's license. I don't need a picture of it, I don't write anything down, I just need to see that birthdate, and that its from TX.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:18:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: I see some crazy recommendations on here dealing with selling guns. Things that are above and beyond what is required by law. Stuff the gun haters would love. I'm in the camp that I'm exchanging my property for cash. I don't want to know the buyers name or see ID. Give me money and leave. Nothing to do with legal and I never pretended it was. Just a CYA in case the cops came to me asking why something papered to me was found at a crime scene. I figured if the cops had that little bit, they could figure out the rest. Nobody ever balked, and I never got any visits from the cops. ETA: And all those records were destroyed as promised. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:28:47 AM EDT
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Under Colorado's current bullshit regime, we meet at an FFL. Prior to 7-1-13, and forever after once I move to a free state (again), cash and a fast peek at an in-state ID and don't peg my douchebag meter.
Nobody's copying anything or writing bills of sale. I'm not doing FBATFE's job for them. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:32:34 AM EDT
[#14]
Nothing really, but I've had PD run the serial numbers after some transaction when dealing with questionable sellers. Once I didn't and it was a "hot" rifle.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 4:02:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: I see some crazy recommendations on here dealing with selling guns. Things that are above and beyond what is required by law. Stuff the gun haters would love. I’m in the camp that I’m exchanging my property for cash. I don’t want to know the buyers name or see ID. Give me money and leave. OP, did you fill out papers when you bought the gun? Yea, you go ahead & sell it like it's apple pie at the county fair. And don't think twice when that acquaintance decides later he's bored with it and then sells it to a drinking buddy friend, and that guy loans it to his drugged out felon cousin, and the next guy steals it from him, etc, etc?? When it's found in a home invasion murder 6 towns down the road and they trace it back to you, take solace in knowing that it's your constitutional right to hire the best attorneys money can buy!! lol....lol.... be sure to show em this thread during your civil lawsuit trial too. 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 4:35:55 AM EDT
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Can anybody quote ANY case law where someone was charged for a crime committed with a firearm that they legally sold without a BOS or other paperwork? I mean with legal proceedings being public record and all.
In a world where someone picking their nose in public is a newsworthy story, there should be some, correct? And I mean legit case law? Not a friend of a friend, or "I heard" or some Internet lore. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:27:51 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Money |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:11:40 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not me. Twice I've come across teenagers wanting to buy a handgun who misrepresented their age. When you show up with your mom driving, that's a clue. (Texas Gun Trader.) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cash, and no physical mtg unless we agreed on price already, my background check is how they present themselves through the texting interaction. Also, I have to say, everyone I have met buying/selling have been really nice folks. Not me. Twice I've come across teenagers wanting to buy a handgun who misrepresented their age. When you show up with your mom driving, that's a clue. (Texas Gun Trader.) Lol, why didn't the mom buy the gun? She could gift it to him legally. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:21:11 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being an FFL has its downsides.  An FFL is allowed to "change hats" and sell personal property as a private individual. ATF does frown upon signing guns out to oneself and then selling them privately but selling an "off-the-books" gun from one's personal collection is OK. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:26:07 AM EDT
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The question is moot here in VA since those assholes in Richmond eliminated private sales, but it used to be common on our state gun trading board for sellers to demand a “good guy ID,” meaning you had to hold a concealed carry permit to buy from them.
Cute nickname, huh? I have one, but it still annoyed me. Unless they were selling something I couldn’t live without, I routinely passed their listings over. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:29:21 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, did you fill out papers when you bought the gun? Yea, you go ahead & sell it like it's apple pie at the county fair. And don't think twice when that acquaintance decides later he's bored with it and then sells it to a drinking buddy friend, and that guy loans it to his drugged out felon cousin, and the next guy steals it from him, etc, etc?? When it's found in a home invasion murder 6 towns down the road and they trace it back to you, take solace in knowing that it's your constitutional right to hire the best attorneys money can buy!! lol....lol.... be sure to show em this thread during your civil lawsuit trial too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I see some crazy recommendations on here dealing with selling guns. Things that are above and beyond what is required by law. Stuff the gun haters would love. I’m in the camp that I’m exchanging my property for cash. I don’t want to know the buyers name or see ID. Give me money and leave. OP, did you fill out papers when you bought the gun? Yea, you go ahead & sell it like it's apple pie at the county fair. And don't think twice when that acquaintance decides later he's bored with it and then sells it to a drinking buddy friend, and that guy loans it to his drugged out felon cousin, and the next guy steals it from him, etc, etc?? When it's found in a home invasion murder 6 towns down the road and they trace it back to you, take solace in knowing that it's your constitutional right to hire the best attorneys money can buy!! lol....lol.... be sure to show em this thread during your civil lawsuit trial too. Assuming the seller did not violate any State or Federal laws when selling the gun, there would be no recourse if someone else committed a crime with the gun. As an FFL, I once sold a gun to a co-worker who loaned it to another co-worker who offed himself with it. Not a good feeling for me or the legit buyer but no fallout afterwards. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:53:35 AM EDT
[#22]
Cash (because cash is king) and a State ID, because it's illegal to sell to an out-of-state resident.
I used to do a Bill of Sale, but Florida doesn't require it, so I don't anymore. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 7:08:37 AM EDT
[#23]
The bare minimum the law requires.
Same if I'm buying, I don't do BOS or copies of IDs. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 7:31:40 AM EDT
[#24]
I have sold 3 guns FTF in my life, 2 to the same guy. Both guys were friends I have known for many years. I knew they were not prohibited people.
Every other gun I have sold was either traded into an FFL, or sold on consignment through an FFL. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:30:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, did you fill out papers when you bought the gun? Yea, you go ahead & sell it like it's apple pie at the county fair. And don't think twice when that acquaintance decides later he's bored with it and then sells it to a drinking buddy friend, and that guy loans it to his drugged out felon cousin, and the next guy steals it from him, etc, etc?? When it's found in a home invasion murder 6 towns down the road and they trace it back to you, take solace in knowing that it's your constitutional right to hire the best attorneys money can buy!! lol....lol.... be sure to show em this thread during your civil lawsuit trial too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I see some crazy recommendations on here dealing with selling guns. Things that are above and beyond what is required by law. Stuff the gun haters would love. I’m in the camp that I’m exchanging my property for cash. I don’t want to know the buyers name or see ID. Give me money and leave. OP, did you fill out papers when you bought the gun? Yea, you go ahead & sell it like it's apple pie at the county fair. And don't think twice when that acquaintance decides later he's bored with it and then sells it to a drinking buddy friend, and that guy loans it to his drugged out felon cousin, and the next guy steals it from him, etc, etc?? When it's found in a home invasion murder 6 towns down the road and they trace it back to you, take solace in knowing that it's your constitutional right to hire the best attorneys money can buy!! lol....lol.... be sure to show em this thread during your civil lawsuit trial too. No offense, but you are completely delusional if you think a scenario like that would cause any significant legal problems for the seller. What is it you imagine would occur in such a case?  That a guy who happened to own a gun years ago would be charged with a home invasion murder that someone else committed? That police and prosecutors would somehow ASSUME he committed a murder (despite no motive, connection, etc.) just because didn't keep records of a perfectly legal gun sale years ago? What would the basis for this imaginary civil lawsuit be? This is such a ridiculous and bizarre stretch to justify doing something that is completely unnecessary. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:41:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Flash an instate over 21 DL cash and carry. I don't want a picture of anything or know who you are.
However if they started talking about some weird things or gave me an uncomfortable vibe I would walk. Basically gimme money and don't be a weirdo. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:44:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Cash and a handshake.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:46:57 PM EDT
[#28]
Money and usually what car they are driving so I can recognize them. I will not ask for more nor will I give more when buying FTF. If they want to give me a bill of sale, that's fine.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:49:08 PM EDT
[#29]
In this thread all the fudds out themselves.
Cash and carry. Don’t look like a dirtbag is just about my only requirement. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:55:54 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread all the fudds out themselves. Cash and carry. Don’t look like a dirtbag is just about my only requirement. No shit… I did recently have a gun on a local board FS and met the person in the Rural King parking lot. They had an Obama Biden bumper sticker, Biden Harris bumper sticker and the bull shit equal sign . I asked if they put the stickers on they confirmed . Then I laughed in their face got back in my car and left . They just stood there like someone fucked their wife. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 12:57:16 PM EDT
[#31]
D/L and CCW....I don't write it down or anything, a quick flash is sufficient.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:00:11 PM EDT
[#32]
I ask if they're undercover law enforcement. They have to tell you if you ask....
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:12:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Stool sample.
If someone is willing to do that...I turn and run. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:15:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Dick pics
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:24:04 PM EDT
[#35]
I don’t sell guns to people with which I wouldn’t call Brother.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:24:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Cash. The less I know the better. I'm not an FFL so I don't care.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:36:14 PM EDT
[#37]
Before I arrange any meeting, I ask (or already know) that they're a Missouri resident, and that they already own guns. That covers the criteria that I'm reasonably required to know, so then it's just cash-and-carry. I do not ever go around creating my own gun control rules.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:37:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Ask to see a TN state driver's license and the cash.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:40:33 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: I see some crazy recommendations on here dealing with selling guns. Things that are above and beyond what is required by law. Stuff the gun haters would love. I’m in the camp that I’m exchanging my property for cash. I don’t want to know the buyers name or see ID. Give me money and leave. I think the only CYA would be to simply ask and make sure the buyer isn't a prohibited person. If they say no, that's good enough for me. If they can't answer that question, I would be a little more cautious. It's only a illegal if "you know" the buyer was a prohibited person. Some like to ask for an ID (age verification and/or same-state for legal sales); some like to ask for a valid CCW to ensure they've passed the state background checks. Somewhat like you, I really don't care much, but I personally just ask to make sure they weren't a prohibited person. If they lie to me, that is on them, not me. Annotate the sale in my little daily ROCK6 |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:43:23 PM EDT
[#40]
Cash….in person deal in the parking lot of the local PD, figure Its my way out if things go sideways, but I dont ask for anything else. Now if you pull up in a rental, or out of state plates….don’t know, never happened.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:45:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:46:09 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cash (because cash is king) and a State ID, because it's illegal to sell to an out-of-state resident. This is my only real concern as we are near the border of SC, in fact, many work in our area (GA) from across the state line. While I think it's a stupid law, it one that could get you hemmed up and while I don't give a shit about a BOS, I might want to just make sure they're a resident in the same state. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:48:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t sell guns to people with which I wouldn’t call Brother. 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:50:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my only real concern as we are near the border of SC, in fact, many work in our area (GA) from across the state line. While I think it's a stupid law, it one that could get you hemmed up and while I don't give a shit about a BOS, I might want to just make sure they're a resident in the same state. ROCK6 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cash (because cash is king) and a State ID, because it's illegal to sell to an out-of-state resident. This is my only real concern as we are near the border of SC, in fact, many work in our area (GA) from across the state line. While I think it's a stupid law, it one that could get you hemmed up and while I don't give a shit about a BOS, I might want to just make sure they're a resident in the same state. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:52:28 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ATF says to confirm they reside is the same state as you. https://www.atf.gov/file/58681/download ATF also said a shoelace is a machine gun . I don’t take legal advice from mentally incompetent organizations. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 1:56:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Never done ftf with a stranger, but 2 friends of mine, one retired LEO made a deal, exchanged cash for gun, the the seller (LE0) said “oh yeah, I need to get a picture of your DL” Other guy gave it to him but I thought it was a real bullshit move.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:05:45 PM EDT
[#47]
cash.
not need to ask or volunteer extra information. yall need to stop with bill of sales when not required by law. no you aren't copying my DL/WCL info. no, I won't facilitate a private transfer as an FFL either. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:25:17 PM EDT
[#48]
Cash for obvious reasons
If I don’t know the person: ID to verify they are a state resident CCW permit to verify the buyer is not prohibited from owning a firearm |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:27:40 PM EDT
[#49]
Money.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:27:42 PM EDT
[#50]
The only paper work I care about is the green stuff with pictures of presidents on them
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