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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:07:13 PM EDT
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but, haven't we ?
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Ooof...
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:09:38 PM EDT
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I think most people try to delay the inevitable in these situations. Hoping someone will save them or they'll change their mind.
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This. A lot of people saying they won't surely would.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:09:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:18:39 PM EDT
[#4]
If it meant getting my hands on a weapon (the shovel), I’d go along with it just long enough till then.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:20:07 PM EDT
[#5]
^^^

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Yeah hand me a shovel and I'll try to take one of them with me
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:26:07 PM EDT
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Well, probably. Lately it has been hard to get a quality job done with any thing so I might as well do it right.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:30:15 PM EDT
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Many movies, be it mobster or war movies, have a scene of the victim digging their own grave.

I'm in the, "Fuck you, kill me and dig it yourself" mindset.

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Shovel is a weapon, too.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:40:47 PM EDT
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This^^^^. Kinda like the Matrix scene. “Your men are already dead..” We don’t want to admit it yet.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:44:20 PM EDT
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I’d dig.

For a while.
Enough to build some cover, and let them get complacent.

Then trade up that shovel for whatever they’re carrying.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:45:13 PM EDT
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Tell me they you're going to kill me and then hand me the same murder weapon that sent Tom Joad away?

Yeah,  you'll likely kill me and then go home to a nice cannoli, but there'll be at least a token effort to bang a gong.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:48:22 PM EDT
[#11]
I'll dig for a bit to buy some time, but I aint going in a hole voluntarily.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:57:26 PM EDT
[#12]
I'd likely take a swing with the shovel, miss, and blow out my back. Then I'll have to dig my grave with a blown out back.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 9:58:45 PM EDT
[#13]
Just fucking kill me... dig that fucking hole....make it a big one
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:12:16 PM EDT
[#14]
They don’t have to kill you easy.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:14:57 PM EDT
[#15]
You won't really know until in that situation.

ETA:  Will to survive and hold on to hope is very strong.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:14:58 PM EDT
[#16]
I'd they had me a shovel, I will hit them with it.  I might die, but they can dig their own fucking hole.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:17:23 PM EDT
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People dug their own grave in the hope that it was a scare tactic, and that it would prolong their lives.

Facing death fucks with your mind.

If it ever happens to you, just take the bullet. You're getting it anyway.


Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:18:05 PM EDT
[#18]
I'd immediately soil myself and make them smell me the whole time.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:18:29 PM EDT
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With a man standing 10 yards away with something that fires lead?
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A shovel full of loose dirt to their face gives you some options.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:23:10 PM EDT
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During the push into Germany a handful of men in the Third Armored Division were captured and forced to dig their own graves, a German officer came along, saw what was going on and put a stop to it.

If they had fought they would’ve been shot and nobody would’ve ever known about it. Granted that’s a very unlikely situation, but it has happened.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:25:34 PM EDT
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Now, you're gonna dig the fuckin' thing now. You're gonna dig the hole. You're gonna do it. I got no fuckin' lime. You're gonna do it. Tommy DeVito : Who the fuck cares? I'll dig the fuckin' hole. I don't give a fuck. What is it, the first hole I dug? Not the first time I dug a hole. I'll fuckin' dig a hole. Where are the shovels?
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:29:54 PM EDT
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I hope I wouldn't puss out and do that.  What's the point? - they're just going to kill you anyway. The only reason I can see someone doing that is denial, desperately hoping for some deus ex machina (which ain't happening), or just being scared shitless and wanting that extra 5 minutes of terrified life.  
Granted, it's a lot easier to do the talk than do the walk, but logically, fighting back is the far better option.
Better to go out in a fight than as a slave; I'd rather rush the SOB, since I'm getting shot anyway - damned if I do, damned if I don't.  Maybe I might actually manage to surprise him and grab his gun and take him or his buddy out with me first.  I wouldn't expect to actually survive, but damn that'd be a neat hat trick. If not, at least I unsettled them and can die with some dignity.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:30:35 PM EDT
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I wouldn't have made it to the place to dig the hole.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:51:48 PM EDT
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This is the only logical choice, but I suspect that if you were actually in that situation, your mind would be telling you to dig thinking "well maybe they will change their mind" or some other such fallacy.
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I'm in the, "Fuck you, kill me and dig it yourself" mindset.



This is the only logical choice, but I suspect that if you were actually in that situation, your mind would be telling you to dig thinking "well maybe they will change their mind" or some other such fallacy.




I'm hoping they just shoot me and not cut me in small pieces starting on the bottom end.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:52:29 PM EDT
[#25]
Not a bad marriage thread?
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:52:41 PM EDT
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Many movies, be it mobster or war movies, have a scene of the victim digging their own grave.

I'm in the, "Fuck you, kill me and dig it yourself" mindset.

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Yeah, I never understood this. At least take a swing at them with the shovel before getting gunned down.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:55:09 PM EDT
[#27]
Someone is going to meet the business end of that shovel. Result is likely the same but someone will have a reminder.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:57:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2022 10:58:21 PM EDT
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It's the primal will to survive that's hard wired into us, make it one more day, one more hour, one more minute or even one more second.
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Some are wired that way.  Not all.  *Happy entrenching tool noises*
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:03:06 PM EDT
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in this soil?  

i'll try and kill the fucker when he goes to sleep because you're not getting a decent hole in a day by hand

if it's dry it's hard as a fucking rock, if it's wet it sticks to the shovel

if they let me run the backhoe they better not stand too close...

Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:05:17 PM EDT
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3'x6'x6' hole takes a while to dig. Even in optimum soil. Add in frozen ground, tree roots, sand, clay, rocks... fuck you. You do the work.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:11:44 PM EDT
[#32]
My father said “live on your knees or die on your feet, the choice is yours.”
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:16:47 PM EDT
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I tried to kill a snake in the yard by throwing the shovel like a spear, it was a pretty good attempt and a near miss at about 20 feet away but was like oops now snake has my shovel!  


I suspect I would go down just like that.
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That's why it's important to get plenty of practice in on a shovel simulator!




Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:19:34 PM EDT
[#34]
are you going to lend me your backhoe?
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:26:33 PM EDT
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They don’t have to kill you easy.
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Once the hole is dug, what's there to stop them from torturing you anyway?

By savagely attacking them with the shovel, even if you're unable to win, odds are higher they'll kill you outright trying to defend themselves. That's a win in and of itself, in a way.

Disrupt their plans, and they just might get sloppy enough to leave behind some evidence.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:34:55 PM EDT
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We dig our own graves daily.  


Link Posted: 9/25/2022 11:53:04 PM EDT
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If they are dumb enough to hand me a shovel they will find out just how uncooperative I can be.
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 12:03:22 AM EDT
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Nah, I'm good.
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 12:05:35 AM EDT
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Lol.

I’mma take at least one of ‘em with me, that shovel will fuck up your world with a good whack in the face.
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The trick is hitting them with it horizontal not vertical like a fucking cartoon.
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 12:11:03 AM EDT
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What if you just hit yourself in the head with the shovel?

Now they can't make you dig.

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Link Posted: 9/26/2022 12:18:59 AM EDT
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At some point I’d use the weapon given to me.  May not ultimately work, but it beats just giving up.
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 12:19:21 AM EDT
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Fuck no I wouldn’t.

Like many others have said go down fighting.

Fucking crazy things happen all the time. Maybe the dude is a retard and misses or panics and forgets the safety and you disembowel him
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 12:54:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/26/2022 1:00:02 AM EDT
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It's be kinda embarrassing to show up in Valhalla holding a shovel, but at least you're there
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 1:02:24 AM EDT
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You handed me a shovel?

I'm gonna try to fucking hit you in your melon.
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 1:11:41 AM EDT
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This is the only logical choice, but I suspect that if you were actually in that situation, your mind would be telling you to dig thinking "well maybe they will change their mind" or some other such fallacy.
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The Taliban fallacy
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 2:22:24 AM EDT
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Many movies, be it mobster or war movies, have a scene of the victim digging their own grave.

I'm in the, "Fuck you, kill me and dig it yourself" mindset.

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I'm in the, "if you're handing me a shovel to dig my own grave with, you'd better be standing pretty friggin far away with a gun on me, cuz I WILL try to brain you with it"
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 2:35:40 AM EDT
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I ain't goin' out like that.
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 2:38:50 AM EDT
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No
Link Posted: 9/26/2022 2:39:01 AM EDT
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They hand me a shovel and I will start swinging for the fences. They can dig their own damn hole.
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