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Posted: 6/13/2021 11:26:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unbelievable how many cop haters are on this board. I did twenty years as a Fed LEO and now I carry under LEOSA. I went through plenty of firearms training in my career and that is more than sufficient to carry concealed now. You people need to get over your hatred/jealousy and move onto bitching about something else for a change. Good lord enough is enough. ?? This x87! OP I'm sorry about your poor career choice 
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Posted: 6/13/2021 11:32:42 PM EDT
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BTW your best chance to get it done is the next year and a half.
And that fades with each month that goes by. Here is a clue, of all the stupid bullshit they are trying to fuck cops over with to my knowledge except places like here, no one is talking about this issue. |
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Posted: 6/13/2021 11:52:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've always been of the opinion that police, local, state, and fed should have to comply with all firearms laws the same as anyone else. If they're to be allowed use or access to anything "special" like SBR, SMG, FA, etc. Whatever legal mechanism allows it should be available to anyone. If there's a training requirement, then I should, as a law abiding citizen, be able to do the same training and have the same access. Same goes for national CCW reciprocity. I'm here. If "weapons of war don't belong on our streets" then they don't belong in a police unit, either. If "high-capacity magazines are only designed to kill large amounts of people" then LEOs don't need them. I personally don't believe either of these things are true, and that it's all political bullshit--but it's time for LE to have skin in the game, too. No more carve-outs. No more more equal pigs. |
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Posted: 6/13/2021 11:54:46 PM EDT
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TN just passed constitutional carry.
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Posted: 6/13/2021 11:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TN just passed constitutional carry. So did TX and AL finally allowed it to come out of committee for a floor vote but ran out of time to vote on it in the full house. Getting another chance to actually pass National Reciprocity is at minimum 4 years away. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:00:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you put a target on your back, making enemies of people that you have arrested or ticketed where some went to prison. Making life long enemies of people, that might seek revenge. Get back to me about why a Leo might choose to carry a weapon around. I’m not saying that national reciprocity shouldn’t be a given. But don’t equate the two as some sort of us vs them. You don't see that this is the case? You get a lot of enemies following you around the country, necessitating LEOSA? Get out of here with that bullshit argument. It IS "us vs them". "I'm a cop--only I have enemies." "I'm the only one professional enough..." No. No more carve-outs, period. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:01:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just want equal protection under the law. 
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:01:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unbelievable how many cop haters are on this board. I did twenty years as a Fed LEO and now I carry under LEOSA. I went through plenty of firearms training in my career and that is more than sufficient to carry concealed now. You people need to get over your hatred/jealousy and move onto bitching about something else for a change. Good lord enough is enough. ?? 
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:02:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm here. If "weapons of war don't belong on our streets" then they don't belong in a police unit, either. If "high-capacity magazines are only designed to kill large amounts of people" then LEOs don't need them. I personally don't believe either of these things are true, and that it's all political bullshit--but it's time for LE to have skin in the game, too. No more carve-outs. No more more equal pigs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've always been of the opinion that police, local, state, and fed should have to comply with all firearms laws the same as anyone else. If they're to be allowed use or access to anything "special" like SBR, SMG, FA, etc. Whatever legal mechanism allows it should be available to anyone. If there's a training requirement, then I should, as a law abiding citizen, be able to do the same training and have the same access. Same goes for national CCW reciprocity. I'm here. If "weapons of war don't belong on our streets" then they don't belong in a police unit, either. If "high-capacity magazines are only designed to kill large amounts of people" then LEOs don't need them. I personally don't believe either of these things are true, and that it's all political bullshit--but it's time for LE to have skin in the game, too. No more carve-outs. No more more equal pigs. And every cop I know agrees with you up until the part in red. I love my community. If it wasn't for them I could not do my job and I can not serve my community with a staunch constitutional morality if they do not have my back. We have to figure out a way to work together and coincide together, but the more my community turns their backs on me and my guys, the more I see the ONE political side who should be in the side of law and order, the more I find I have absolutely zero allies when all my guys and I try to do is do the job to the very best of our ability, the more I'm tempted to say fuck it and leave. Let someone else do this job in my stead, and because me and my kind are a dying breed, I will be replaced by others who absolutely will put boots to necks just like GD thinks we strive to do all day. You will get a police force who absolutely doesn't care about your rights and those of us who once did, will sit back and watch the world burn 
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:07:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unbelievable how many cop haters are on this board. I did twenty years as a Fed LEO and now I carry under LEOSA. I went through plenty of firearms training in my career and that is more than sufficient to carry concealed now. You people need to get over your hatred/jealousy and move onto bitching about something else for a change. Good lord enough is enough. ?? Lol, look we found a special one! Standard post for him. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:18:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every cop I personally know wouldn't bat an eye if permitless carry was a thing and the NFA wasn't. Hell my boss works hand in hand with our local militia and they host all their meetings at the office There are absolutely staunch constitutional cops out there, but the less support we have the more we say fuck it and leave. GD will absolutely wind up with its nightmare of a police force and the ACAB bullshit is what will cause it. Find a single post of mine where I disparage LE. I'm a supporter of law enforcement, have been my whole life. It doesn't make me a cop hater to point out unequal distribution of rights among the citizenry, or to shine a light on hypocrisy. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:18:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Civilians don't have National Reciprocity because they didn't get off their collective asses and push for it when it lost by two votes, twice. It rests squarely on them, no one else. At the time, 800K LE, over 50M+ civilian gun owners. It's cute that you think those 2 votes gave one fuck whatsoever what is "civilian gun owners" wanted. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:20:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with you OP. 100% |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:21:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HR218 requires annual recertification / shooting qualification. The permit doesn't bypass background checks for purchases. Civilian CCW requires recertification after 5 years, no annual qualifications. Many states allow the ccw to bypass the background check for purchases. 21 states have constitutional carry. The disparity of means to exercise one's 2A rights doesn't require stripping allies of privileges. Maybe the sides aren't allied. Envy is a deadly sin. ...and pride is the first. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:24:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a single post of mine where I disparage LE. I'm a supporter of law enforcement, have been my whole life. It doesn't make me a cop hater to point out unequal distribution of rights among the citizenry, or to shine a light on hypocrisy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every cop I personally know wouldn't bat an eye if permitless carry was a thing and the NFA wasn't. Hell my boss works hand in hand with our local militia and they host all their meetings at the office There are absolutely staunch constitutional cops out there, but the less support we have the more we say fuck it and leave. GD will absolutely wind up with its nightmare of a police force and the ACAB bullshit is what will cause it. Find a single post of mine where I disparage LE. I'm a supporter of law enforcement, have been my whole life. It doesn't make me a cop hater to point out unequal distribution of rights among the citizenry, or to shine a light on hypocrisy. I totally agree. Hell man, you bought my first membership here because I was LE if I remember right |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:30:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  How long did that take you?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A buddy of mine I worked with had to get his ccw when he became a cop to carry in other cities off duty. I always thought cops didn't need a ccw permit. Some departments did that as a way to limit their liability if a cop got into an off duty shooting out side of their city limits. Certain departments have some of the most goofy policies that have nothing to do with case law or state law. ETA: One department only allows an officer to qualify with two pistols in any given year. Mine required me to qual with every pistol I own. Even if I had no intentions to carry it on duty. Along with some other departments. Lots of officers got CCW permits to avoid these issues for off duty carry or out of state carry. How long did that take you? CA CCW is this way now. Must qualify with every weapon on your license (CA CCW only allows carrying of weapon on license, not a generic 'can carry'). Not as bad or as long as you'd think. I'm limited to three, and I can qualify with all three in 15 mins. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:38:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unbelievable how many cop haters are on this board. I did twenty years as a Fed LEO and now I carry under LEOSA. I went through plenty of firearms training in my career and that is more than sufficient to carry concealed now. You people need to get over your hatred/jealousy and move onto bitching about something else for a change. Good lord enough is enough. ??  DEA Agent shoots himself in the foot. 
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:39:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's cute that you think those 2 votes gave one fuck whatsoever what is "civilian gun owners" wanted. The membership here was against it both times that it failed to pass. So is this what civilian gun owners wanted at that time or not? NRA was for it, membership here against it. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:52:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And every cop I know agrees with you up until the part in red. I love my community. If it wasn't for them I could not do my job and I can not serve my community with a staunch constitutional morality if they do not have my back. We have to figure out a way to work together and coincide together, but the more my community turns their backs on me and my guys, the more I see the ONE political side who should be in the side of law and order, the more I find I have absolutely zero allies when all my guys and I try to do is do the job to the very best of our ability, the more I'm tempted to say fuck it and leave. Let someone else do this job in my stead, and because me and my kind are a dying breed, I will be replaced by others who absolutely will put boots to necks just like GD thinks we strive to do all day. You will get a police force who absolutely doesn't care about your rights and those of us who once did, will sit back and watch the world burn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've always been of the opinion that police, local, state, and fed should have to comply with all firearms laws the same as anyone else. If they're to be allowed use or access to anything "special" like SBR, SMG, FA, etc. Whatever legal mechanism allows it should be available to anyone. If there's a training requirement, then I should, as a law abiding citizen, be able to do the same training and have the same access. Same goes for national CCW reciprocity. I'm here. If "weapons of war don't belong on our streets" then they don't belong in a police unit, either. If "high-capacity magazines are only designed to kill large amounts of people" then LEOs don't need them. I personally don't believe either of these things are true, and that it's all political bullshit--but it's time for LE to have skin in the game, too. No more carve-outs. No more more equal pigs. And every cop I know agrees with you up until the part in red. I love my community. If it wasn't for them I could not do my job and I can not serve my community with a staunch constitutional morality if they do not have my back. We have to figure out a way to work together and coincide together, but the more my community turns their backs on me and my guys, the more I see the ONE political side who should be in the side of law and order, the more I find I have absolutely zero allies when all my guys and I try to do is do the job to the very best of our ability, the more I'm tempted to say fuck it and leave. Let someone else do this job in my stead, and because me and my kind are a dying breed, I will be replaced by others who absolutely will put boots to necks just like GD thinks we strive to do all day. You will get a police force who absolutely doesn't care about your rights and those of us who once did, will sit back and watch the world burn It's important for me to point out that "pigs" was an Animal Farm reference--not a slander against LEO. I hope you didn't take it that way. ...and I agree with everything in your post, which was well-written. I chafe under the assumption that I am not entitled to the same Constitutional rights as LEOs due to my poor choice in careers. I gave my life to the military, and have worked for national defense--nonstop--since I was 18. I'm 54...but not good enough. "Poor job choice." |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:54:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I totally agree. Hell man, you bought my first membership here because I was LE if I remember right Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every cop I personally know wouldn't bat an eye if permitless carry was a thing and the NFA wasn't. Hell my boss works hand in hand with our local militia and they host all their meetings at the office There are absolutely staunch constitutional cops out there, but the less support we have the more we say fuck it and leave. GD will absolutely wind up with its nightmare of a police force and the ACAB bullshit is what will cause it. Find a single post of mine where I disparage LE. I'm a supporter of law enforcement, have been my whole life. It doesn't make me a cop hater to point out unequal distribution of rights among the citizenry, or to shine a light on hypocrisy. I totally agree. Hell man, you bought my first membership here because I was LE if I remember right I'm way cool.  (shrug)--I like cops. I've never had a bad experience with them. I've never met a bad one. When I was trying to get my CCW, LEOs on this board gave me fantastic insight into the process and were instrumental in my approval. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:55:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Repealing the 19th Amendment would contribute more to healing the Nation than telling fat former LEO's they aren't special.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 12:57:45 AM EDT
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(quick edit up there...I hope nobody saw that!)
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Posted: 6/14/2021 2:47:32 AM EDT
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With the whole defund the police nonsense and the obvious eventual goal of federalizing local policing and cramming it full of freaks and commie bootlickers, it should be pretty obvious what the real intent was behind laws like this.
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Posted: 6/14/2021 4:17:11 AM EDT
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I sure wouldn't be against it.
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Posted: 6/14/2021 4:38:21 AM EDT
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Damn that’s a tough one
I say do not repeal the law! Don’t get me wrong I hate the concept especially as someone who can’t get a permit I don’t think police officers should get special treatment BUT all this would do is take guns from peoples pockets which is where they belong While it doesn’t take long to find examples of bad/stupid cops it’s safe to say that for the majority of officers it’s a good thing that they are carrying for their families or any would be victim that’s near by If I had my way anyone could go in a hardware store buy a gun and slap it in their pocket so I’m not going to vote to repeal this bill in a spiteful manner |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 6:48:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: National Reciprocity failed twice under George Bush guidance by two republican votes both times it came up in the senate. Not having that law passed is a result of apathetic gun owners. Of which the majority of the members here opposed National Reciprocity when it came up those times. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:50:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm way cool. (shrug)--I like cops. I've never had a bad experience with them. I've never met a bad one. When I was trying to get my CCW, LEOs on this board gave me fantastic insight into the process and were instrumental in my approval. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every cop I personally know wouldn't bat an eye if permitless carry was a thing and the NFA wasn't. Hell my boss works hand in hand with our local militia and they host all their meetings at the office There are absolutely staunch constitutional cops out there, but the less support we have the more we say fuck it and leave. GD will absolutely wind up with its nightmare of a police force and the ACAB bullshit is what will cause it. Find a single post of mine where I disparage LE. I'm a supporter of law enforcement, have been my whole life. It doesn't make me a cop hater to point out unequal distribution of rights among the citizenry, or to shine a light on hypocrisy. I totally agree. Hell man, you bought my first membership here because I was LE if I remember right I'm way cool. (shrug)--I like cops. I've never had a bad experience with them. I've never met a bad one. When I was trying to get my CCW, LEOs on this board gave me fantastic insight into the process and were instrumental in my approval. IMO, the requirement to even need a ccw is an infringement. In 11 years of doing this. I've still never charged someone for carrying without one |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:53:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn that’s a tough one I say do not repeal the law! Don’t get me wrong I hate the concept especially as someone who can’t get a permit I don’t think police officers should get special treatment BUT all this would do is take guns from peoples pockets which is where they belong While it doesn’t take long to find examples of bad/stupid cops it’s safe to say that for the majority of officers it’s a good thing that they are carrying for their families or any would be victim that’s near by If I had my way anyone could go in a hardware store buy a gun and slap it in their pocket so I’m not going to vote to repeal this bill in a spiteful manner exactly. This is the equivalent of gun owners in NY or CA demanding people in free states lose their magazines or guns. After all, not everyone is equal... |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:54:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the whole defund the police nonsense and the obvious eventual goal of federalizing local policing and cramming it full of freaks and commie bootlickers, it should be pretty obvious what the real intent was behind laws like this. This law passed in 2004 under GWB |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:55:53 AM EDT
[#30]
NO
Next question |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:56:02 AM EDT
[#31]
Lotta salty tears in this thread.
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Posted: 6/14/2021 10:58:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: exactly. This is the equivalent of gun owners in NY or CA demanding people in free states lose their magazines or guns. After all, no everyone is equal... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn that’s a tough one I say do not repeal the law! Don’t get me wrong I hate the concept especially as someone who can’t get a permit I don’t think police officers should get special treatment BUT all this would do is take guns from peoples pockets which is where they belong While it doesn’t take long to find examples of bad/stupid cops it’s safe to say that for the majority of officers it’s a good thing that they are carrying for their families or any would be victim that’s near by If I had my way anyone could go in a hardware store buy a gun and slap it in their pocket so I’m not going to vote to repeal this bill in a spiteful manner exactly. This is the equivalent of gun owners in NY or CA demanding people in free states lose their magazines or guns. After all, no everyone is equal... This. It all boils down to petty jealousy. If I can’t do something then no one should be able to do something. Guess what buttercup? Life isn’t fair. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 11:03:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat dude is a good cop and has done a lot to gain the trust of the community. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 1:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Repealing the 19th Amendment would contribute more to healing the Nation than telling fat former LEO's they aren't special. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg This. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 1:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. It all boils down to petty jealousy. If I can’t do something then no one should be able to do something. Guess what buttercup? Life isn’t fair. Alright, the next time cops are under attack and under scrutiny by protestors and rioters ill remember life isn’t fair and that y’all should just deal with it LOL 
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Posted: 6/14/2021 1:59:46 PM EDT
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I don't care for what it smacks of but I'm not going to begrudge cops of it.....More people CCing is always a good thing.
 That said I was never for national reciprocity.....It just seemed like it was something to enable the feds to get their nose under the state's rights tent in a Darth Vader type of way.  I Am Altering The Deal |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 2:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alright, the next time cops are under attack and under scrutiny by protestors and rioters ill remember life isn’t fair and that y’all should just deal with it LOL I think this is fair for anyone who joined the force in the last 2 years |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 3:04:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. It all boils down to petty jealousy. If I can’t do something then no one should be able to do something. Guess what buttercup? Life isn’t fair. I don't know what flavor of sherbert you get with your pills but permission to carry is far from a reason to be jealous of armed unskilled labor. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 3:49:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2021 3:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what flavor of sherbert you get with your pills but permission to carry is far from a reason to be jealous of armed unskilled labor. lol nice burner account. |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 4:19:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps not in this thread, but there are pro-gun control cops on this board. I can tell you one by name that thinks the NFA is good law. There are more pro gun control non LEOs here than cops 
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Posted: 6/14/2021 4:30:36 PM EDT
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An ex police officer I know changed careers from LEO to oil refinery operator. Some coworkers invited him to have a couple of beers after work and he arrived at the bar before they did. An ex con that he’d arrested several years earlier was in there and recognized him. Guy approached him and told him he was going to get some payback for the arrest. Ex cop tried reasoning with him, but the guy beat his ass very badly, like over a week in the hospital badly. Psychologically messed him up, too. He ended up divorced and transferred with his company to Colorado. I’m sure there are good arguments against this law, but the one example I know of makes it seem like a good idea.
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Posted: 6/14/2021 5:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are more pro gun control non LEOs here than cops Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Perhaps not in this thread, but there are pro-gun control cops on this board. I can tell you one by name that thinks the NFA is good law. There are more pro gun control non LEOs here than cops |
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Posted: 6/14/2021 5:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what flavor of sherbert you get with your pills but permission to carry is far from a reason to be jealous of armed unskilled labor. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. It all boils down to petty jealousy. If I can’t do something then no one should be able to do something. Guess what buttercup? Life isn’t fair. I don't know what flavor of sherbert you get with your pills but permission to carry is far from a reason to be jealous of armed unskilled labor. Sherbet. Never has been that pesky second R
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Posted: 6/14/2021 11:09:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TN just passed constitutional carry. How long did it take? How long has the republicans held a fucking super majority here? |
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Posted: 6/15/2021 1:42:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO, the requirement to even need a ccw is an infringement. In 11 years of doing this. I've still never charged someone for carrying without one Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every cop I personally know wouldn't bat an eye if permitless carry was a thing and the NFA wasn't. Hell my boss works hand in hand with our local militia and they host all their meetings at the office There are absolutely staunch constitutional cops out there, but the less support we have the more we say fuck it and leave. GD will absolutely wind up with its nightmare of a police force and the ACAB bullshit is what will cause it. Find a single post of mine where I disparage LE. I'm a supporter of law enforcement, have been my whole life. It doesn't make me a cop hater to point out unequal distribution of rights among the citizenry, or to shine a light on hypocrisy. I totally agree. Hell man, you bought my first membership here because I was LE if I remember right I'm way cool. (shrug)--I like cops. I've never had a bad experience with them. I've never met a bad one. When I was trying to get my CCW, LEOs on this board gave me fantastic insight into the process and were instrumental in my approval. IMO, the requirement to even need a ccw is an infringement. In 11 years of doing this. I've still never charged someone for carrying without one A sincere thank you! |
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Posted: 6/15/2021 1:43:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. It all boils down to petty jealousy. If I can’t do something then no one should be able to do something. Guess what buttercup? Life isn’t fair. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Damn that’s a tough one I say do not repeal the law! Don’t get me wrong I hate the concept especially as someone who can’t get a permit I don’t think police officers should get special treatment BUT all this would do is take guns from peoples pockets which is where they belong While it doesn’t take long to find examples of bad/stupid cops it’s safe to say that for the majority of officers it’s a good thing that they are carrying for their families or any would be victim that’s near by If I had my way anyone could go in a hardware store buy a gun and slap it in their pocket so I’m not going to vote to repeal this bill in a spiteful manner exactly. This is the equivalent of gun owners in NY or CA demanding people in free states lose their magazines or guns. After all, no everyone is equal... This. It all boils down to petty jealousy. If I can’t do something then no one should be able to do something. Guess what buttercup? Life isn’t fair. 
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Posted: 6/15/2021 1:54:42 AM EDT
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I would support a repeal if there was no way we would ever get nationwide reciprocity for all.
I think the founders were remiss in not making a constitutional amendment to ensure the government cannot possess or do anything it is unlawful for a citizen to do, even if it is "better" for society. Liberty comes with risks. If that means some criminals go free because law enforcement isn't allowed special exemptions, so be it. The government is already quite fond of setting criminals free, so that argument is less and less persuasive. |
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Posted: 6/15/2021 2:06:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An ex police officer I know changed careers from LEO to oil refinery operator. Some coworkers invited him to have a couple of beers after work and he arrived at the bar before they did. An ex con that he'd arrested several years earlier was in there and recognized him. Guy approached him and told him he was going to get some payback for the arrest. Ex cop tried reasoning with him, but the guy beat his ass very badly, like over a week in the hospital badly. Psychologically messed him up, too. He ended up divorced and transferred with his company to Colorado. I'm sure there are good arguments against this law, but the one example I know of makes it seem like a good idea. Was there something preventing him from getting a regular CCW permit like everyone else? |
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Posted: 6/15/2021 2:22:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If “things should be fair for everyone” somehow gets converted to “hate all law enforcement” in your mind, then maybe you should recalibrate your thought process. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's become fashionable lately to hate all law enforcement. I think that more guns is a good thing. If “things should be fair for everyone” somehow gets converted to “hate all law enforcement” in your mind, then maybe you should recalibrate your thought process. "Things should be fair for everyone" isn't a philosophy, its a revenge dream. Most people here don't actually want cops and citizens to be able to carry everywhere equally. They really just want to take that away from the cops as vengeance for being "lol more equal" and "muh dogs" and "muh bumpstocks herpaderp" type of shit. |
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