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MP40 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote While the PPSH was quite reliable, it had manufacturing interchangeability issues in that not all magazines would fit into all guns. The Sten and M3 had magazine reliability issues related to feeding from a single set of feed lips (no alternate feeding like on the modern autoloading rifles). The MP38/40 had that issue to some degree as well. The Thompson had the best magazine feed system, but was overly complicated to manufacture. None of them were perfect, nor did any stand out as above the others. |
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Major poll fail Kp31 http://www.varusteleka.com/pictures/19308a.jpg Ppsh 41 in 7.62x25 http://i.imgur.com/G3us4ZW.jpg View Quote winner, winner, Finnish dinner.. |
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I believe the Owen was generally regarded best smg for the money in ww2
Op also forgot AuSTEN and Beretta 38, |
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I wish. |
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Might be because there are different versions as the war went on. Germans even made them in 9x19mm. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes While the PPSH was quite reliable, it had manufacturing interchangeability issues in that not all magazines would fit into all guns. Might be because there are different versions as the war went on. Germans even made them in 9x19mm. No, I am not talking about ones make by the Germans. I am talking about Soviet-made PPSH. Those had magazine interchangeability issues. Often the magazine was serial numbered to the gun to mitigate this. |
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Too bad the manufacturing of the Reising wasn't optimized.....
Coulda been a contender.....supposedly tightly fitted parts and no true interchangeability of said parts led to it being very prone to jamming unless maintained thouroughly. Light. Good round. Ran well and did the job when kept clean. |
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Too bad the manufacturing of the Reising wasn't optimized..... Coulda been a contender.....supposedly tightly fitted parts and no true interchangeability of said parts led to it being very prone to jamming unless maintained thouroughly. Light. Good round. Ran well and did the job when kept clean. View Quote My dad's cousine carried a Reising during the war but never fired it. I think .45 is a fine pistol round but prefer 9 mm or 7.62x25 as SMG rounds. Mostly due to weight and flatter trajectory. |
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Swedish k? View Quote Yeah, this! How is this not even on the list? It's essentially the same type as a sten, but just a bit different. And it looks better than most of the others. If I could get a swedish k, in 45 acp, that takes grease gun mags and could be easily suppressed, I'd be in heaven. |
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STEN Mk2
Effective, cheap, and easy to make. So good everyone used them. Now build quality? Suomi KP31 or Beretta M38 |
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It was definitely not the Thompson. Too heavy and too labor intensive and expensive to produce.
Valid arguments can be made for both the Sten and the MP40. |
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I'm just shooting from the hip here, but I'd say the M3 probably had the longest service career.... they were still in tanks right up through Desert Storm, weren't they? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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U.S. M3 "Grease Gun" I'm just shooting from the hip here, but I'd say the M3 probably had the longest service career.... they were still in tanks right up through Desert Storm, weren't they? Yes but what does that prove? It was a crude, inaccurate stamped pos with a horrible trigger and no sights to speak of. I have trigger time with most in the discussion and wouldn't look twice at the grease gun. Junk |
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KP-31 with 72 rd drums and 50rd coffin mags.
Nice sights and lots of ammo on board and rugged. |
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Thompson.
You can 9mm brrrrp brrrp brrrrp all you want but when a Tommy Gun barks, people scatter. |
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Which one would I rather own? Thompson.
Which one would I rather hump in battle? MP40 Which one would I want to clear a room with? PPsH |
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Easy to spot people who have never carried a gun all day.
And you forgot about 10 |
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Not enough Sterling love in here. Issued in 44 so I say it counts.
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View Quote Papasha.....suka. |
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The Thompson was really a WW1 gun, in both construction and doctrine, although it arrived too late. The rest used "modern," for the time, construction and hewed to the doctrine of volume production and volume fire rather than craftsmanship and marksmanship. In WW2 I Like to think I'd have humped the extra weight of the Thompson and its ammo but realistically The MP40 was probably more practical. I do have a sorta 'so ugly it's beautiful' soft spot for the M3 though. I guess you'd say I feel strongly both ways.
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