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Link Posted: 5/18/2015 2:36:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/18/2015 2:47:09 PM EDT
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No PPSh?
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MP40

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While the PPSH was quite reliable, it had manufacturing interchangeability issues in that not all magazines would fit into all guns.

The Sten and M3 had magazine reliability issues related to feeding from a single set of feed lips (no alternate feeding like on the modern autoloading rifles).  The MP38/40 had that issue to some degree as well.

The Thompson had the best magazine feed system, but was overly complicated to manufacture.

None of them were perfect, nor did any stand out as above the others.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 4:07:34 PM EDT
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Owen gun.
PPS-43
Suomi.

In that order.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 5:43:02 PM EDT
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winner, winner, Finnish dinner..
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 5:49:48 PM EDT
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Suomi smg



M3

Link Posted: 5/18/2015 5:54:39 PM EDT
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I believe the Owen was generally regarded best smg for the money in ww2

Op also forgot AuSTEN  and  Beretta 38,
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 6:11:41 PM EDT
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7.62x25, 35 round magazines and 71 round drums. Probably a good bit cheaper than Thompsons. Early versions also had semi auto. The one pictured here seems to have the selector switch.

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Might be because there are different versions as the war went on. Germans even made them in 9x19mm.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:08:40 PM EDT
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Came here to post this.  PPS43 was pretty good also.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:09:11 PM EDT
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I wish.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:11:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:21:27 PM EDT
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Might be because there are different versions as the war went on. Germans even made them in 9x19mm.
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While the PPSH was quite reliable, it had manufacturing interchangeability issues in that not all magazines would fit into all guns.


Might be because there are different versions as the war went on. Germans even made them in 9x19mm.


No, I am not talking about ones make by the Germans.  I am talking about Soviet-made PPSH.  

Those had magazine interchangeability issues.  Often the magazine was serial numbered to the gun to mitigate this.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:49:01 PM EDT
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Too bad the manufacturing of the Reising wasn't optimized.....

Coulda been a contender.....supposedly tightly fitted parts and no true interchangeability of said parts led to it being very prone to jamming unless maintained thouroughly.

Light.
Good round.
Ran well and did the job when kept clean.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:51:00 PM EDT
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^^^This^^^
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:53:32 PM EDT
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Too bad the manufacturing of the Reising wasn't optimized.....

Coulda been a contender.....supposedly tightly fitted parts and no true interchangeability of said parts led to it being very prone to jamming unless maintained thouroughly.

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My dad's cousine carried a Reising during the war but never fired it.

I think .45 is a fine pistol round but prefer 9 mm or 7.62x25 as SMG rounds. Mostly due to weight and flatter trajectory.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 7:57:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, this!  How is this not even on the list?  It's essentially the same type as a sten, but just a bit different.  And it looks better than most of the others.

If I could get a swedish k, in 45 acp, that takes grease gun mags and could be easily suppressed, I'd be in heaven.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:04:05 PM EDT
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PPS
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Papa Shah.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:07:51 PM EDT
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STEN Mk2

Effective, cheap, and easy to make. So good everyone used them.

Now build quality? Suomi KP31 or Beretta M38
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:14:19 PM EDT
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I've only shot the m3 and Thompson from that

 
era full auto...

M3 would be my choice....
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:16:23 PM EDT
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Without the ppsh this poll is useless.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:17:08 PM EDT
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Nailed It....this is the correct answer.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:19:31 PM EDT
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It was definitely not the Thompson.  Too heavy and too labor intensive and expensive to produce.

Valid arguments can be made for both the Sten and the MP40.



Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:22:46 PM EDT
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I'm just shooting from the hip here, but I'd say the M3 probably had the longest service career....  they were still in tanks right up through Desert Storm, weren't they?
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I'm just shooting from the hip here, but I'd say the M3 probably had the longest service career....  they were still in tanks right up through Desert Storm, weren't they?

Yes but what does that prove?  It was a crude, inaccurate stamped pos with a horrible trigger and no sights to speak of.  I have trigger time with most in the discussion and wouldn't look twice at the grease gun.  Junk
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:24:37 PM EDT
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KP-31 with 72 rd drums and 50rd coffin mags.
Nice sights and lots of ammo on board and rugged.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:32:30 PM EDT
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1. Beretta 38/42
2. PPS43
3. All else
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:40:01 PM EDT
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Grease gun hands down
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:47:29 PM EDT
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Thompson.

You can 9mm brrrrp  brrrp  brrrrp all you want but when a Tommy Gun barks, people scatter.  
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:52:13 PM EDT
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Which one would I rather own? Thompson.

Which one would I rather hump in battle? MP40

Which one would I want to clear a room with? PPsH
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:54:14 PM EDT
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Ppsh-41 or -43.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 8:58:04 PM EDT
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PPsH  - easy to produce (stampings), very reliable, good at squirting bullets.
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Link Posted: 5/18/2015 9:00:13 PM EDT
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Ppsh-41
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 9:11:57 PM EDT
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KP-31 with 72 rd drums and 50rd coffin mags.
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Link Posted: 5/18/2015 9:13:56 PM EDT
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Owen gun
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 9:19:21 PM EDT
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Easy to spot people who have never carried a gun all day.

And you forgot about 10
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 9:47:45 PM EDT
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Not enough Sterling love in here. Issued in 44 so I say it counts.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:05:16 PM EDT
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Beretta M1938



5 out 5 Germans agree
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:16:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:24:56 PM EDT
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The Thompson was really a WW1 gun, in both construction and doctrine, although it arrived too late. The rest used "modern," for the time, construction and hewed to the doctrine of volume production and volume fire rather than craftsmanship and marksmanship. In WW2 I Like to think I'd have humped the extra weight of the Thompson and its ammo but realistically The MP40 was probably more practical. I do have a sorta 'so ugly it's beautiful' soft spot for the M3 though. I guess you'd say I feel strongly both ways.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:49:28 PM EDT
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poll fail


Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:50:36 PM EDT
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PPSH41 can still get it done





Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:52:07 PM EDT
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Nailed it completely.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 10:56:28 PM EDT
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I would have a Sten.

I would put a fresh coat of paint over the rust blotches every few months or so.

Hopefully I could get a tetanus booster first.
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You don't paint a Bic lighter. You get another one.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 11:16:48 PM EDT
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Nailed It....this is the correct answer.
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Nailed It....this is the correct answer.

Link Posted: 5/18/2015 11:34:09 PM EDT
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if the Sterling counts its first then the mp40
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Came here to post this.  PPS43 was pretty good also.
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Came here to post this.  PPS43 was pretty good also.


Owning and shooting both, the 43 all day, every day.
Link Posted: 5/18/2015 11:53:56 PM EDT
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PPsH-41 or Sten.
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