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Posted: 7/20/2019 1:07:05 AM EST
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Porsche does 520 hp with a NA 4.0 flat 6. and it revs to 9k RPM. Just saying  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nearly 500 horses from a NA 6.2 liter smallblock V8 ain’t bad! |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 1:07:32 AM EST
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I like your 3 scenarios, unfortunately for gen 3-7 owners, your cars just took a massive hit. Gen 1 and 2 cars will always be special, but no one is going to want anything but a gen 8 now.
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I took a lot of time to create 3 scenarios, just because I knew the tendency of posters to brush off any single argument. To make your arguments, you have to specifically tailor your load to the C8, and ignore the beach trip, and contort the argument to another car entirely. Weak Sauce. I show 3 realistic trips, and could show more, like the very real company trip I took in my C7 to an office in Minnesota. I had 4 Ethernet switches, several firewalls & APs, all in original boxes, along with a grip of network tools & a generous travel bag, all in the C7 trunk. After the job, I took a couple of days off to visit a friend in North Dakota, then blasted back down through ND & SD at (CoC) unmentionable speeds. That's life with the C7. The C8 would have to stay home, and I'd have to take a rental car to get the equipment on site. You can like the C8 for it's looks or HP, but otherwise, it's another damn European-styled day-tripper. Sad!  |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 1:11:13 AM EST
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How many of you here complaining about all the buttons have parked your butt in a Porsche lately?
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Posted: 7/20/2019 1:14:10 AM EST
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I was never a Corvette fan until I rented a new Stingray last year on vacation. Always thought they were for old guys. Man was I wrong, it is such a fun car.
If I were to buy a sports car I'd almost certainly get a 911 but it this new Corvette looks awesome. It has a lot going for it and I like the new styling. It will probably bring in a much younger crowd of buyers with the styling changes. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 1:28:10 AM EST
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Wow jay is looking old!
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Posted: 7/20/2019 2:44:09 AM EST
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As some of you know, I have owned a 2009 Corvette Z51, and I now own a 2016 Corvette Stingray. I am very critical of the C8 after seeing the presentation. The Corvette was always a capable car for a several days road trip. Or, you could pickup the groceries on the way back from the track. Now, the C8 cargo space is split between a frunk, and a somewhat larger space behind the engine. GM Engineer Tadge presented as having as much combined space as the current C7. And he showed a pile of luggage and claimed it would fit in the car. I maintain that Tadge's demonstration was misleading. Allow me to show why. Here is a picture of my C7 packed for an afternoon at the shooting range. Rifle case, large ammo bag that can also hold a pistol or two, and a day bag for binoculars and accessories. I've actually put several rifles in my trunk, + ammo and gear. Conclusion? Going to the range with more than a couple of pistols and an ammo bag? The C8 stays home. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/500x375/48326298031_693ff839bf_9d9fae93899712bae03a2756397d4b5c5306f30e.jpg Some people don't like guns. That's OK. Do they like to go to the beach instead? Well, here is the C7 with a body board bag packed with 2 boards. There's a cooler, and look! We've got room left over for beach towels. If you're careful, you could put a couple of folding beach or camp chairs under the body board bag. Conclusion? Going to the beach with more than a couple of towels and a small cooler? The C8 stays home. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/500x375/48326424627_06eca5d533_be2039ce05439c9ec79ed9827a3e125d4c4c9388.jpg The Corvette is America's premier sports car, but the Corvette doesn't just live at the track. Thousands of owners do more mundane things with the Corvette, like drive to and from work, and yes, picking up the groceries. You don't always think of your Corvette as a "grocery getter" but come-on, we've all done it! Here's the C7 doing duty as the grocery hauler. Going to the food store gets a lot harder if we plan on getting more than a couple of days worth of groceries. Conclusion? Going supermarket shopping for the family? The C8 stays home. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/500x375/48326297406_4763de0af3_1884052c7098963b5a69bb82bf7dddec1bdc6074.jpg I say the Corvette was not just an awesome sports car, it was also a capable car for a several days road trip. Or, you could pickup the groceries on the way back from the track. In the presentations, we saw the C8 cargo space, split as it is between the front & rear, and strictly limited to small bags, means that Chevy is pushing the consumers toward the European pattern where the sports car is just another rich man's day tripper, and not a useful American road car. 
So they’ve said one can stow 2 bags of golf clubs in the C8, but somehow you don’t think a rifle case will work? I have a 3 rifle drag bag, with a heathy amount of storage for a couple pistols, eye/ear pro, some tools, etc. and I know for a fact it’s still smaller than 2 of my golf bags combined. Not to mention you still have the front storage for smaller bags with ammo and gear. Same goes for groceries. If one can squeeze two golf bags in the C8’s trunk, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 10 or so grocery bags won’t be a tall order. And again, you’ve still got the frunk. Even the body board bag might fit if oriented differently. I’d like to know the dimensions of that and the chairs. As, again, based on the 2 golf bag threshold, I could pretty well gauge whether that all would fit. Not saying this applies to you. But I find it curious that a lot of the criticism I’ve seen is coming from C7 owners. And my hunch is that quite a few are simply irritated that, as of about 11:00 pm last night, their Vette is no longer the pinnacle of performance, form, and function. Especially when trying to stomach that the bone stock base model C8 can pretty much compete with any previous model; and at a low price tag. Thus, we get complaints about buttons and theoretical baggage scenarios (which may not even be a valid critique), or how it’s not a “real Vette” (whatever that means). 
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Posted: 7/20/2019 2:57:09 AM EST
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I like it..... Might get to buy my first Corvette. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 2:59:17 AM EST
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I have been thinking of buying something evil fast...sub 3 seconds to 60? Oh hell yes. I approve. I was thinking of a C7 though. My last vette was slow but fun. 1979 L82 4 speed with gymkhana. My TLX would destroy it. I will have to wait and see. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 3:04:28 AM EST
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I agree with you 100% Great looking car, but just too far of a departure from the Corvette to carry the Corvette name. But Chevrolet can't un-ring that bell, now can they? ETA: That shade of blue is not a good color. The factory name is probably "Bland Blue" |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 3:06:51 AM EST
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/241846/18DD4385-4DBC-4A5C-8F84-DF2337B71E12_jpeg-1022619.JPG That's a Corvette. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 3:33:14 AM EST
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Nice accura |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 3:45:49 AM EST
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Wow. Congrats Chevy. I'm not a sports car kinda guy (driving a Jeep) but for only 60k...? Take my money!
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Posted: 7/20/2019 4:25:30 AM EST
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Italian looks, Japanese interior, GM parts bin.
It’s an incredible value for 55+ year old men. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 4:29:22 AM EST
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I would get one. The button row ruins the center console
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Posted: 7/20/2019 4:32:19 AM EST
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Never was a huge fan of Leno, but I appreciated him. He used to be instantly witty. It was fun to watch his car videos. Especially the unique ones. He's completely lost his edge. 
No manual means you get to steer the car, not drive it. It may have paddle shifters, so does the Chevy Cruze. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:04:23 AM EST
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Corvettes are boomer-mobiles.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:08:42 AM EST
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I think it is badass. Sub 3 seconds 0-60 with 490hp? Wait until the turbocharge it and give it 1,000hp. This thing is a supercar killer. Next year, at LeMans, they are going to destroy their class, including the Ford GT. Great job, Chevy! |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:36:18 AM EST
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I think it is badass. Sub 3 seconds 0-60 with 490hp? Wait until the turbocharge it and give it 1,000hp. This thing is a supercar killer. Next year, at LeMans, they are going to destroy their class, including the Ford GT. Great job, Chevy! 8654 |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:42:53 AM EST
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There's something pathetic about that video, and it ain't the car. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:44:02 AM EST
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No manual means you will actually be fast and win races, instead of bragging online about how much of a man shifting a manual makes you. If I was buying a car and the only purpose was taking it to the drag strip then I might consider a automatic. Most people don't ever take their car to a dragstrip. They might do a ricer fly by and call it a race or maybe a roll race, but even then your automatic barely has an advantage over a manual, but whatever.  Attached Filememe just for Glock63 
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:47:17 AM EST
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I think it is badass. Sub 3 seconds 0-60 with 490hp? Wait until the turbocharge it and give it 1,000hp. This thing is a supercar killer. Next year, at LeMans, they are going to destroy their class, including the Ford GT. Great job, Chevy! engines over 4 liters must be naturally aspirated, want to guess what the GT was detuned to for LeMans? 495 hp. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:53:41 AM EST
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Italian looks, Japanese interior, GM parts bin. It’s an incredible value for 55+ year old men. 
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:54:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Porsche does 520 hp with a NA 4.0 flat 6. and it revs to 9k RPM. Just saying GM had cooling issues with the C7s, I can't imagine that it is easier to cool the same engine stuffed in the middle of the car. How many radiators are there? |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 5:57:44 AM EST
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You're really going to compare a GT3 RS to the base model Vette? Also lol at Porsche being slower to 60 than a regular $65k Z51 vette, and I'll award you a second lol for the pathetic 339lbft of torque. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:01:10 AM EST
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Fugly white trash grocery getter
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:03:47 AM EST
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Fugly white trash grocery getter  I can see trailer parks full of them.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:09:35 AM EST
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Can’t wait to see one in the wild. It looks phenomenal in video.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:23:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no way that Corvette will do 0-60 under 3 seconds with that horsepower and torque rating. I think it looks busy and kinda porky. I'm sure those are base wheels, but they look horrible, like something from the 90's. That car will not sell for $60,000 either. I don't like anything about it and they should have stuck with front engine layout a la 812 Superfast. I know opinions are like azzholes. the C7 was rated at 3.7 with around 30 less HPP/Tq The new supra is rated at 3.8 wtih about 100 less Hp and 50 less Tq the 911 is rated at 3.3 with 50 less hp and 100 less Tq even if they spilt the difference between their goal and the C7 is pretty damn quick for a 60k vehicle. considering there volume, i dont see any reason why a 60k entry is doable. As for the looks, it looks like 90 percent of other mid/rear engine supercars. Is this one of those edgy post where one proclaims Kate Upton is a disgusting sea cow, and Anna Kendrick has a freakishly wierd body I dont know if i would put it in the catagory as best looking car ever, but i think as long as its reliable enough to drive everyday, GM will have knocked this out of the park |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:25:44 AM EST
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I like the look, but it looks like an import that should be sporting a twin turbo v6. Sort of want. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the TX Speed crews to find a way to stuff twin turbos on it and make it a 1000hp car.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:30:55 AM EST
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I like the look, but it looks like an import that should be sporting a twin turbo v6. Sort of want. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the TX Speed crews to find a way to stuff twin turbos on it and make it a 1000hp car. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:32:54 AM EST
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I'd test drive it
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:36:11 AM EST
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why do you guy keep saying this is an old mans car? an old man {me} would have a hard time getting in and out of it! I will probably get this after the first model year. I don’t want to deal with all the recalls they usually have on their first run models |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:40:03 AM EST
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That's a good looking car.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:45:11 AM EST
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"Hey let's design and all new midengined Corvette! It will be a major turning point in the Vette brand, it will be historic!!" "What do you want to do about the taillights?" "Ah fuck it, just throw some Camaro lights on there."  |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:54:23 AM EST
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I see they found a new job for the guy who used to design their (square) truck wheel openings, he's designing steering wheels now.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:55:12 AM EST
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I really like the new vette. And I’m hoping Jay was just tired or feeling under the weather on this piece. He was looking and sounding bad. He seems way more lively on his tv show so I’m just leaning on tired.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 6:59:47 AM EST
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I really like the new vette. And I’m hoping Jay was just tired or feeling under the weather on this piece. He was looking |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:07:07 AM EST
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I like it.
It seems like a good evolution of a longstanding brand. These things are always painful, but I think GM finally did something right. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:07:39 AM EST
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So they’ve said one can stow 2 bags of golf clubs in the C8, but somehow you don’t think a rifle case will work? I have a 3 rifle drag bag, with a heathy amount of storage for a couple pistols, eye/ear pro, some tools, etc. and I know for a fact it’s still smaller than 2 of my golf bags combined. Not to mention you still have the front storage for smaller bags with ammo and gear. Same goes for groceries. If one can squeeze two golf bags in the C8’s trunk, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 10 or so grocery bags won’t be a tall order. And again, you’ve still got the frunk. Even the body board bag might fit if oriented differently. I’d like to know the dimensions of that and the chairs. As, again, based on the 2 golf bag threshold, I could pretty well gauge whether that all would fit. Not saying this applies to you. But I find it curious that a lot of the criticism I’ve seen is coming from C7 owners. And my hunch is that quite a few are simply irritated that, as of about 11:00 pm last night, their Vette is no longer the pinnacle of performance, form, and function. Especially when trying to stomach that the bone stock base model C8 can pretty much compete with any previous model; and at a low price tag. Thus, we get complaints about buttons and theoretical baggage scenarios (which may not even be a valid critique), or how it’s not a “real Vette” (whatever that means). |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:14:49 AM EST
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My bucket list car has always been a 911 turbo. But as a kid, I had a big corvette poster on the wall (and lusted after a 69 L88).
This thing is freaking awesome, and I can't believe the price point they are hitting. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:17:46 AM EST
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I think it looks great. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:21:46 AM EST
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:22:40 AM EST
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I like the car It is not a Corvette anymore though It has more in common with a Mc Laren F1, Or Ford GT, or exotic. The front engine Corvette is gone, the Camaro is about to be gone. I'm ok with all of this. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:28:07 AM EST
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As some of you know, I have owned a 2009 Corvette Z51, and I now own a 2016 Corvette Stingray. I am very critical of the C8 after seeing the presentation. The Corvette was always a capable car for a several days road trip. Or, you could pickup the groceries on the way back from the track. Now, the C8 cargo space is split between a frunk, and a somewhat larger space behind the engine. GM Engineer Tadge presented as having as much combined space as the current C7. And he showed a pile of luggage and claimed it would fit in the car. I maintain that Tadge's demonstration was misleading. Allow me to show why. Here is a picture of my C7 packed for an afternoon at the shooting range. Rifle case, large ammo bag that can also hold a pistol or two, and a day bag for binoculars and accessories. I've actually put several rifles in my trunk, + ammo and gear. Conclusion? Going to the range with more than a couple of pistols and an ammo bag? The C8 stays home. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/500x375/48326298031_693ff839bf_9d9fae93899712bae03a2756397d4b5c5306f30e.jpg Some people don't like guns. That's OK. Do they like to go to the beach instead? Well, here is the C7 with a body board bag packed with 2 boards. There's a cooler, and look! We've got room left over for beach towels. If you're careful, you could put a couple of folding beach or camp chairs under the body board bag. Conclusion? Going to the beach with more than a couple of towels and a small cooler? The C8 stays home. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/500x375/48326424627_06eca5d533_be2039ce05439c9ec79ed9827a3e125d4c4c9388.jpg The Corvette is America's premier sports car, but the Corvette doesn't just live at the track. Thousands of owners do more mundane things with the Corvette, like drive to and from work, and yes, picking up the groceries. You don't always think of your Corvette as a "grocery getter" but come-on, we've all done it! Here's the C7 doing duty as the grocery hauler. Going to the food store gets a lot harder if we plan on getting more than a couple of days worth of groceries. Conclusion? Going supermarket shopping for the family? The C8 stays home. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/500x375/48326297406_4763de0af3_1884052c7098963b5a69bb82bf7dddec1bdc6074.jpg I say the Corvette was not just an awesome sports car, it was also a capable car for a several days road trip. Or, you could pickup the groceries on the way back from the track. In the presentations, we saw the C8 cargo space, split as it is between the front & rear, and strictly limited to small bags, means that Chevy is pushing the consumers toward the European pattern where the sports car is just another rich man's day tripper, and not a useful American road car. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:31:14 AM EST
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I want one Then again, it would get higher praise from snobs if they'd plastered a $200k price tag on the same vehicle.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:32:00 AM EST
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it was the sound of their blue book resell value evaporating. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they’ve said one can stow 2 bags of golf clubs in the C8, but somehow you don’t think a rifle case will work? I have a 3 rifle drag bag, with a heathy amount of storage for a couple pistols, eye/ear pro, some tools, etc. and I know for a fact it’s still smaller than 2 of my golf bags combined. Not to mention you still have the front storage for smaller bags with ammo and gear. Same goes for groceries. If one can squeeze two golf bags in the C8’s trunk, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 10 or so grocery bags won’t be a tall order. And again, you’ve still got the frunk. Even the body board bag might fit if oriented differently. I’d like to know the dimensions of that and the chairs. As, again, based on the 2 golf bag threshold, I could pretty well gauge whether that all would fit. Not saying this applies to you. But I find it curious that a lot of the criticism I’ve seen is coming from C7 owners. And my hunch is that quite a few are simply irritated that, as of about 11:00 pm last night, their Vette is no longer the pinnacle of performance, form, and function. Especially when trying to stomach that the bone stock base model C8 can pretty much compete with any previous model; and at a low price tag. Thus, we get complaints about buttons and theoretical baggage scenarios (which may not even be a valid critique), or how it’s not a “real Vette” (whatever that means). If i would get one, my use would be, go to work, go to the gym, may take grab a 3 day pack and take a ride up into the mountains and hike to the cabin and go shooting. if i need more cargo, thats why land cruisers exist. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:32:25 AM EST
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I hard to make every body happy, but for me, this is a beautiful machine. |
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:34:44 AM EST
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Those complaining about the looks are probably the type that wears wife beaters while driving their IROC
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:36:17 AM EST
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I'm impressed. Can't wait to see what real world reviews bring. It's a bold move by them for sure.
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Posted: 7/20/2019 7:37:51 AM EST
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I should add it looks like it will be evil to work on. I don't like the engine compartment too much. Step one...remove 57 covers..... |
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