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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the shit gits fan, only thing need is 22lr and .380. Can carry lots fo ammo long distance, only headshots  Everyone knows it's 10/22 and a .38. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:42:37 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: chicks dig them Pretty sure a small subsection of dudes dig them |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:43:03 PM EDT
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AKs are good guns. There’s a reason there’s so many of them.
It’s a bit harder to assemble an AK than an AR. I’ve done both, because there’s actual head spacing, drilling, riveting. But I’d say it’s more satisfying. They both have their place. I guess they’re both “terrible” to be on the receiving end. One of my garage builds:  My Colt M16A1: 
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:43:48 PM EDT
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Is no one going to address the fact both those videos were cringeworthy unfunny?
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:44:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gay trigger Gay safety Gay stock Gay optics mounting Gay accessory mounting Gay open receiver design Gay round Gay magazines Gay magazine release Gay piston system Gay stamped receivers Gay bolt Gay charging handle Personally I own and love both, all 5.56 and I also love my Galil Ace  |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:44:08 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AUG might be the worst mass-fielded infantry weapon on the planet besides the SA80. It truly sucks asshole. yeah okay
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:45:36 PM EDT
[#7]
They both suck. Get a man's rifle:
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:46:20 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryIf it was so great the Australian SAS would be using it like their regular infantry. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AR charging handle is as "ergonomic" as a bowling ball covered in porcupine hide. It is also the control you need the least when firing the weapon. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:51:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOoh. Nice |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:52:41 PM EDT
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I liked the guy who was doing the TFB videos 3 or so years ago better.
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:53:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it was so great the Australian SAS would be using it like their regular infantry. What is bad about it? I would expect less accuracy than AR, and the usual bullpup issues. But from what I know it is solid. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:53:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AUG might be the worst mass-fielded infantry weapon on the planet besides the SA80. It truly sucks asshole. 
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:56:07 PM EDT
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From my perspective the 47 is a good weapon that is clearly inferior than the AR. The AK74 makes up most the difference for the role of combat carbine, the AR is still superior, but in practice the combat performance would be similar.
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:57:29 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is bad about it? I would expect less accuracy than AR, and the usual bullpup issues. But from what I know it is solid. Only issue I found to be legitimate is the that the trigger is less than perfect, which the sear 2020 mostly fixes. The other “issues” can be fixed aftermarket support to tailor to given users needs such as extended magazine release, ejection deflector, extended optic rails, several quick-change barrel options, suppressor gas plugs, NATO stock(take AR mags), several different charging handle styles, several different light adapters, Forward accessory rail, etc. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:58:06 PM EDT
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every weapon will be wanting in SHTF
the biggest problem in SHTF is that untrained civilian Americans are fucking pussies & will be awful warriors being hard & pretending to be hard are not the same thing. DUH right  but let me ask you this how many 0200 hours guard dutys have you done? How many miles of night time Patrols do you have ubder NODS ? how many miles without NODs Can you build a standard fox hole with overhead cover do you understand the concept of "lift and shift in a firefight & how to communicate that moment to the gunners with over 20 guns firing "even non combat veterans can explain many of these questions , but in the boog your day will consist of guard for entire days , tryibg to stay hidden is a 24 hour jobon a battel line you can't screw up. what rifle is best does not mean jack shit. how many men pull guard while the rest eat and when & where to do that activity matters immensely. idealy every civilian would own A IAR & have 400 rounds but the world ain't ideal.& even if it was ideal without field craft there would just be alot of lonely IARs in arty craters  |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:58:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is bad about it? I would expect less accuracy than AR, and the usual bullpup issues. But from what I know it is solid. I never said it wasn't a solid weapon. For whatever reason the Aussie SAS chose the M4 and MK18. I'm sure they have a good reason. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 5:59:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yeah okayQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The AUG might be the worst mass-fielded infantry weapon on the planet besides the SA80. It truly sucks asshole. yeah okayI'm serious. I got the chance to go with some Austrian soldiers (among many others) to the range, and our M4s, AKs, G36s, etc ran circles around that fuckin AUG. I almost couldn't qualify with it the trigger was so bad. Also, the two-stage trigger as a semi/auto selector is fuckin stupid. The integrated sight was literally a tiny black donut circle reticle at 1.5x and you couldn't really find a place to hold. Also, the eyebox of that thing sucked ass too. The gun truly truly sucked. After all of us shot qualifications on eachothers' weapons, the Austrians admitted that they vastly preferred everyone else's rifles to theirs, and for good reason. Every soldier in my platoon did way with every other kind of weapon available than with the AUG. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:00:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryHave you ever shot a military-issued AUG? I have, and they suck. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:03:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you ever shot a military-issued AUG? I have, and they suck. Most military issued weapons suck |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:04:31 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most military issued weapons suck Nah. Army-issued M4A1s are not perfect, but they certainly don't suck. All in all, they're pretty damn good weapons. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:05:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah. Army-issued M4A1s are not perfect, but they certainly don't suck. All in all, they're pretty damn good weapons. My magazines sucked
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:05:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm serious. I got the chance to go with some Austrian soldiers (among many others) to the range, and our M4s, AKs, G36s, etc ran circles around that fuckin AUG. I almost couldn't qualify with it the trigger was so bad. Also, the two-stage trigger as a semi/auto selector is fuckin stupid. The integrated sight was literally a tiny black donut circle reticle at 1.5x and you couldn't really find a place to hold. Also, the eyebox of that thing sucked ass too. The gun truly truly sucked. After all of us shot qualifications on eachothers' weapons, the Austrians admitted that they vastly preferred everyone else's rifles to theirs, and for good reason. Every soldier in my platoon did way with every other kind of weapon available than with the AUG. What year was that? because Almost all of those issues have been resolved after after the A1. The A3 M1 is an entirely ungraded weapon system that’s gone beyond its 70s design. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What year was that? because Almost all of those issues have been resolved after after the A1. The A3 M1 is an entirely ungraded weapon system that’s gone beyond its 70s design. Ok, that may be true- I have no experience with the newer AUGs probably. I shot them in 2016, and they were in Kosovo, so probably not the newest/best rifles the Austrian military had. They had a cross-button type safety, and a trigger that you squeezed about 12lb to shoot a round (no shit) and about 13 lbs to go full auto (no shit) and somewhere in between you were supposed to be able to hit what you were aiming at with a sight with about 1mm of useable eye relief and a reticle with no actual aiming point. If they've fielded a better version that fixes that, i'm glad. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:09:27 PM EDT
[#25]
I'd sure rather carry an AK 47 than see blood in my urine.
But if I'm allowed to pick, I'm taking my pseudo SOPMOD Block 1 clone AR. It beats the AK in every way, except ability to use full magazines as blunt force weapons. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:24:15 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What year was that? because Almost all of those issues have been resolved after after the A1. The A3 M1 is an entirely ungraded weapon system that’s gone beyond its 70s design. KFOR was cool because I got to see a whole lot of different weaponry from different countries.    
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:34:09 PM EDT
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The A1 which sounds like the one you used , was made in the 70s which was futuristic for the time but obviously is not as good compared to today’s competition but the A3 M1 is a quality rifle that addressed the issues you experienced
. It’s like When people disregard M4 or M16a4 because of the M16A1s reputation in Vietnam. Im originally from the UK but you are right, the l85 still sucks  I still want one though
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: galil Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If they made an AK that was ergonomic, accurate and lightweight I'd buy one. OH WAIT... then it would be an AR-15. galil Galil ergonomic? Lightweight?  This one ain't bad though (Galil SAR): 
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:37:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's an excellent weapon. It's a terrible rifle. I've never heard it put that way... only I wouldn't say it's a terrible rifle, it's just not very good. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:40:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, GD thought me that projectiles actually gain altitude after leaving the muzzle, the one exception being the 7.62x39. Those things take a nose dive upon exit, that’s the reason they aren’t capable of hitting targets out past 40 meters. You are thinking of 7.62x51, which used to be a pretty good .30 round until the invention of the 6.5 Creedmore changed the atmosphere so that x51 will only fly 50yds, and even that twirling like an old musket ball. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:42:34 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If shtf my main rifle would be my polytech AK folder. I have thousands of rounds of ammo. This rifle eats everything and has never had a ftf or jam. 1000% reliable. I do have ARs. When I ran out of ammo for my AK then I would default to the AR as ammo would be easier to find. A good AK is as good or better than any AR I have owned. I am sure there are a lot of garbage AKs out there and same with ARs. Everyone should have a good AK in their arsenal Yes I know China is asshole Not proud of where my AK came from but it is a machine! You know it's sad when the Chinese make a better AK than the Russians....
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:45:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Both rifles rock. The people operating them however...
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:46:39 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is the acog mounted upside down on the ak? Because I was inverted |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:47:18 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 7.62x39 is literally incapable of going past 300 yards. It falls straight down at 300. 600 yards is perfectly safe from an ak. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whatever, I enjoy AKs ARs are way more reliable than every AK snob thinks they are AKs are way more accurate than every AR snob thinks they are I wouldn't want to stand within 600m of someone who is proficient with either and who wants me dead The 7.62x39 is literally incapable of going past 300 yards. It falls straight down at 300. 600 yards is perfectly safe from an ak. If you're at 2300fps mv with 123gr 7.62x39, it goes subsonic right after 500yds, 114" of drop. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:47:33 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is bad about it? I would expect less accuracy than AR, and the usual bullpup issues. But from what I know it is solid. Less than ideal for mounting slings, lights, IR, etc, etc Functionally, the AUG is gtg. Another issue is Steyr has done diddly squat with the design since the 70s except for some very minor things. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are thinking of 7.62x51, which used to be a pretty good .30 round until the invention of the 6.5 Creedmore changed the atmosphere so that x51 will only fly 50yds, and even that twirling like an old musket ball. The .30 rifle bullet set small arms design back at least 3 decades. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:52:49 PM EDT
[#37]
OP is high.
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:53:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:53:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yeah okayQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The AUG might be the worst mass-fielded infantry weapon on the planet besides the SA80. It truly sucks asshole. yeah okayAUG is awesome if you’re right handed |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 6:55:04 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP is high. Well I am a big stoner fan. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:06:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:09:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The A1 which sounds like the one you used , was made in the 70s which was futuristic for the time but obviously is not as good compared to today’s competition but the A3 M1 is a quality rifle that addressed the issues you experienced . It’s like When people disregard M4 or M16a4 because of the M16A1s reputation in Vietnam. Im originally from the UK but you are right, the l85 still sucks I still want one thoughM16A1 had a great reputation in Vietnam. You must be thinking of the Colt 602 with undersized non-chromed chambers, no cleaning kits, Edgewater spring guides, being fed ball propellant ammo. Put even the Colt 4x scope on the 1960s AR15s, and you still have a better rifle than the AUG A1. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:16:22 PM EDT
[#43]
 Jesus... great american. Never touched an AK. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:18:54 PM EDT
[#44]
"Jesus, great American, never touched an AK."
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:18:57 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryHell yes...awaiting my stamp but the stock is still back ordered
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:19:18 PM EDT
[#46]
Look how gay this shit is:
Hurrrr durrrr I kinda want to put my piston there hurr durrr wobbly wobbly gay sex 
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:21:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look how gay this shit is: Hurrrr durrrr I kinda want to put my piston there hurr durrr wobbly wobbly gay sex https://i1.wp.com/americanshootingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ak-47_gasblock.gif?resize=480%2C270 Take the gas tube off an AR and let me know how it goes for you.
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:27:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Take the gas tube off an AR and let me know how it goes for you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Look how gay this shit is: Hurrrr durrrr I kinda want to put my piston there hurr durrr wobbly wobbly gay sex https://i1.wp.com/americanshootingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ak-47_gasblock.gif?resize=480%2C270 Take the gas tube off an AR and let me know how it goes for you. Better yet, let's see what good engineering looks like  
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:29:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better yet, let's see what good engineering looks like https://lockedback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/23YRDHT.gif https://lockedback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/HZ1K9ee.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look how gay this shit is: Hurrrr durrrr I kinda want to put my piston there hurr durrr wobbly wobbly gay sex https://i1.wp.com/americanshootingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/ak-47_gasblock.gif?resize=480%2C270 Take the gas tube off an AR and let me know how it goes for you. Better yet, let's see what good engineering looks like https://lockedback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/23YRDHT.gif https://lockedback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/HZ1K9ee.gif Nice deflection.  I'd pick any of my AR's over my AK's at this point, but the fact that the AK's can function at all when you take half the parts off is pretty impressive. |
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Posted: 3/30/2020 7:30:15 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice deflection. I'd pick any of my AR's over my AK's at this point, but the fact that the AK's can function at all when you take half the parts off is pretty impressive. "Half the parts" Dust cover and piston cover aren't half the parts |
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