Originally Posted By Demeroma:
Posting this as a reminder of where we currently can and can't carry in New Jersey.

Green is where we can carry.  Red and Yellow (stayed) is no carry.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93999/Opera_Snapshot_2024-05-18_231259_sconten-3217880.png

We're now in the 7th month of our appeal for all of the above and nothing has been heard from the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals but crickets.

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
Since you've already been printed and gotten an SBI# no other fingerprinting is required for the permit to carry.

@fly223

Originally Posted By KnuckleSandwich:

I'm pretty sure that chart is out of date, or at a bare minimum, confusing. It's not like we're talking about a $100 fine here. 5 years in jail for interpreting that chart wrong.

I saw a post on NJGF that listed the latest update at the bottom of the very long post. Shit like this and that is going to get someone locked up.

Originally Posted By KnuckleSandwich:
BTW, WTF is an "entertainment facility?" That one bothers the shit out of me.

Originally Posted By NZT:
Let us know how long getting the PP takes please.

Related but not too unrelated: As the PP are *electronic*, what does that mean? You get a LINK to download your PP you, what, save it to print? In fly223's case he requested 2 PP. How does that operate? You can only purchase 1 pistol per 30 days unless you meet specific criteria, correct?

I have not PP anything in nearly a decade, so I would likely do as member fly223 has done.

Originally Posted By NZT:
Let us know how long getting the PP takes please.

Related but not too unrelated: As the PP are *electronic*, what does that mean? You get a LINK to download your PP you, what, save it to print? In fly223's case he requested 2 PP. How does that operate? You can only purchase 1 pistol per 30 days unless you meet specific criteria, correct?

I have not PP anything in nearly a decade, so I would likely do as member fly223 has done

READ THIS ENTIRE EMAIL

Confirmation Number: xxxxxxxxx
SBI Number: xxxxxxx
Issuing Police Department: Your town
Contact Phone for Issuing Police Department: (732) xxx-xxxx

Status Update: Approved

Your application for a New Jersey Firearm Purchaser Identification Card and/or Permit to Purchase a Handgun(s) has been approved by the issuing authority.
Electronic Firearms Purchaser Identification Card (E-FID):

The Electronic Firearms Purchaser Identification Card (E-FID) is available from Download E-FID link below. Please note that the physical Firearms Purchaser Identification Cards are no longer issued, and the Electronic Firearms Purchaser Identification Card is available for download and print for one year only. You will be required to present Electronic Firearms Purchaser Identification Card along with second form of government ID at the time of firearms transfer.
Download E-FID: here

Access Key: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Electronic Firearms Purchaser Identification Card is available only until 07/26/20xx. Please ensure that you download it to print and save a copy for your records. Otherwise, you will need to submit a new application.
Electronic Permits:

Your electronic permits are now available for use. You will NOT see your permit(s) until a HANDGUN TRANSFER has been EXECUTED.
Number of Active Permits Available for use: 1

Expiration Date: 10/24/20xx - Please note that permit(s) are automatically renewed for additional 90-days unless your Police Department de-activates your E-Permit.

All firearms must be acquired through a NJ Licensed Firearms Dealer with an approved National Instant Criminal Background Check (NICS), pursuant to N.J.S. 2C:58-3(a   b). Private sales of firearms must be facilitated through a NJ Licensed Firearms Dealer unless a qualifying exemption is valid, pursuant to N.J.S. 2C:58-3(a   b). Qualifying exemption include following:

Transfer/sale between Law Enforcement Officer and another Law Enforcement Officer
Transfer/Sale between Immediate Family Members and Immediate Family Members
Transfer/Sale with Licensed Curio/Relic Dealer and Licensed Curio/Relic Dealer

Contact your LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT to determine if you qualify for a NICS Exemption listed in A, B. or C. If you CONFIRM that you qualify for one of these exemptions you DO NOT NEED to go to a NJ Licensed Firearms Dealer for a NICS check. DO NOT ASSUME YOU QUALIFY FOR A NICS EXEMPTION.
If you qualify for a NICS Check exemption, you can utilize the below link to use your E-PERMIT to purchase a handgun (NICS Check Exempt only):
Permit Execution Form for Private Seller.

Sale or transfer of firearms that are conducted under a qualifying exemption pursuant to N.J.S. 2C:58-3(a   b) must be confirmed and certified by both the transferor and transferee prior to conducting a transaction. Any person who knowingly gives false information while completing the certificate to acquire a firearm without obtaining a National Criminal Instant Background Check approval through a NJ Licensed Firearms Dealer is punishable by a crime of the third degree, pursuant to N.J.S. 2C:39-10c.

If you have any further questions about your FID card/permit(s) please contact your issuing police department.
See what else you can do online at www.NJ.gov.

NJ.gov - The official web site for the State of New Jersey

Originally Posted By NZT:

What does the Purchase Permit look like? A link to download, then printout??? 30 days later are you using the same one or are you provided with a new link to download a different file to print out? I'm trying to understand the pieces as you have moved forward.

Thanks.

READ THIS ENTIRE EMAIL

This is confirmation of the E-Permit used to purchase the below Handgun(s). YOU MUST review all of the information and verify the accuracy of make, model, and serial numbers. If you notice an inaccuracy, contact your NJ Firearms Dealer or your local Police Department so that these entities can initiate the process to correct the below information:

Permit Number: xxxxxxxxx
Number of Permits executed: 1
Execution Date: xx/xx/20xx
Issuing Agency: Your town's police
Exemption Used: None
Dealership: xyz gun store
Name of Salesperson: xxxxxxxxxx
Document Download: here.
Access Key: xxxxxxxx

You can download and print the Permit PDF from the Document Download link above or by entering the Access Key above in the Document Retrieval Center. The documents are only available for download for 90 days from the permit execution date. Please ensure that you download and save/print before that.
See what else you can do online at www.NJ.gov.

NJ.gov - The official web site for the State of New Jersey

Originally Posted By NZT:
Thanks, efforts appreciated.

Originally Posted By MCM308:
Yea what gets me boiling is having the background checks done for PP's and then having to wait another 4-5 days for bogus NJNICS to clear.

The law that the judge invoked, N.J.S.A. 2C:58-3(c)(5), is a subjective standard. This standard is one that's ripe for repeal, as it is not a narrow and objective disqualifier, as NYSRPA v. Bruen requires.

For whatever reason, the judge in Morris County could not just let K.D. withdraw quietly, but instead issued a 17-page document that did nothing other than defame the applicant's reputation. The case was completely moot, and that action was not necessary.

K.D., with their representation, the Nappen law firm, appealed to the Superior Court of New Jersey. "Since the appeal was withdrawn and no hearing held, the trial court issued its decision entirely upon hearsay," Louis Nappen, Esq., K.D.'s attorney stated. "Which is no way to treat a Constitutional right or even basic Due Process rights."

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
BSOG1, sounds like a glitch in the matrix. You're grandfathered and your FID doesn't expire. Keep your old yellow card and you'll be fine. I heard about one guy who got an e-FID and his expiration date was in 2050

I remember you had to upload of photo for your purchase permit. Does the e-FID have your photo on it?

Originally Posted By BSOG1:
id go for some Free Gun stickers. waiting for a Glock 22, heard NICS is a week.

Originally Posted By fly223:
I tried to go onto my local PD and entered the ORI # etc. and no where on the local pd site is a area for me to apply for a carry permit. I then contacted the SP, and they advised me I'd have to go onto there site and enter my local PD ORI number to complete the purchase to carry permit. Anyone else have this issue? I always used my local pd for my fid and pistol permits. Tomorrow I'll try and get this done and report back as to how long it takes.

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
The FID and pistol purchase application was moved online several years ago to this site:

https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/Fars/

To apply for a carry permit you must now use this site:

https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/ConcealedCarry/

No more paper applications or notary required.

Before you start your ccw application be sure you have all your information at your fingertips, emails for references, serial numbers for guns you intend to carry, your CCARE form plus your instructors qualification training info, your photo, etc. All will need to be uploaded during application. If you step away from your computer for too long, the system may log you off and you'll need to start the application all over again.

Also some police departments accept payment online while others require you to pay in person with cash or check. Yes, you'll make a partial payment when doing the application and afterwards you'll need to pay your local PD their take of the loot.

If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
BSOG1, sounds like a glitch in the matrix. You're grandfathered and your FID doesn't expire. Keep your old yellow card and you'll be fine. I heard about one guy who got an e-FID and his expiration date was in 2050

I remember you had to upload of photo for your purchase permit. Does the e-FID have your photo on it?

Originally Posted By BSOG1:
good to go. talked to Detective. grandfathered for FID

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Originally Posted By NZT:
Damn impressive - Part One, Paragraph Two - a work in progress.

Originally Posted By fly223:
Northfield PD issued my friends ccw in 3 business days, everything was submitted on Friday and he received a call today to pay, and pick it up! That was fastest turn around time I've heard of so far this state..

I'm still waiting for a call from my local PD

Originally Posted By NZT:
It came about 40 days or so.

I made my purchase and while checking out additional mags I see an asymmetrical frame to slide mating.

No way to post at this time.

Originally Posted By Demeroma:

I know of one person in NJ that got his ptc in 1 day. Apparently him having trained some officers in his town had nothing to do with the speedy issuance.

Congrats to your friend and hopefully you'll soon join the club.


eta:

I figured I'd add this here since you're waiting on your carry permit. You can search for your town and see how long they took to issue permits.

Permit to Carry Delay Statistics

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93999/Opera_Snapshot_2024-05-30_170630_www_fac-3227463.png

https://www.njnics.com/delayptc.php

Originally Posted By fly223:




Wonderful, thanks.  

If I read that correctly sea isle city is approx 65 days? I received my pistol permits in March in less then 2 weeks.  

Originally Posted By Demeroma:

That 65 days for Sea Isle City is the average for that town's PD issuing permits to carry, not purchase permits.

Originally Posted By NZT:
Too many other things took priority.

G48 - no optics, cuz no want to retrain my brain.

Originally Posted By NZT:
Nice setup!

The Kydex a 3-5'clock IWB?

Originally Posted By NZT:
Nice setup!

The Kydex a 3-5'clock IWB?