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Got mine today. The build quality is nicer than the LMT. Not dramatically different though. Only for the pickiest of people. The two on the right are Colt. The one on the left is my 40mm LMT receiver. I took the barrel off to make it easier to compare. Feel free to use these pics. I'm not sure if I should watermark them with a "Coctailer" or whatever.... http://a63.tinypic.com/au8ltw.jpg LMT on the left. Notice the rounded top rails on the Colt http://a63.tinypic.com/33bdb90.jpg Colt on the bottom. http://a67.tinypic.com/2po8l11.jpg http://a64.tinypic.com/jkk74w.jpg http://a66.tinypic.com/1z2hetx.jpg View Quote The Colt does have that cut near the roll marks that isn't supposed to be there. |
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The drawing calls for no radius up to .09" in that location. The Colt does have that cut near the roll marks that isn't supposed to be there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Got mine today. The build quality is nicer than the LMT. Not dramatically different though. Only for the pickiest of people. The two on the right are Colt. The one on the left is my 40mm LMT receiver. I took the barrel off to make it easier to compare. Feel free to use these pics. I'm not sure if I should watermark them with a "Coctailer" or whatever.... http://a63.tinypic.com/au8ltw.jpg LMT on the left. Notice the rounded top rails on the Colt http://a63.tinypic.com/33bdb90.jpg Colt on the bottom. http://a67.tinypic.com/2po8l11.jpg http://a64.tinypic.com/jkk74w.jpg http://a66.tinypic.com/1z2hetx.jpg The Colt does have that cut near the roll marks that isn't supposed to be there. I didn’t even notice it. I was too busy marveling at the rounded top ribs. |
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I would fully expect the LMT 40mm barrel to fit in the Colt launcher. @coctailer , maybe you could confirm. At under $500, the LMT barrels are available. Seems to make sense. A Colt 40mm recently sold for much more. These should be mix and match, right?
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If they are mil spec, they should interchange without issue.
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Why did the military switch to the kac m203 barrel notch mount over the one AU is selling for 20$? Sorry about all the questions.
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I would fully expect the LMT 40mm barrel to fit in the Colt launcher. @coctailer , maybe you could confirm. At under $500, the LMT barrels are available. Seems to make sense. A Colt 40mm recently sold for much more. These should be mix and match, right? View Quote The LMT barrel will work on the Colt. I will be using an LMT barrel on mine. I don’t think the Colt ones are available anyway. I used to be an M203 armorer, and I’ve worked on both. They function identically. It’s is not recommended to interchange used barrels even though I have done it in the past. Probably because of increased risk of failure with HE rounds. Should be fine with Charlie’s and smokes. |
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The LMT receiver looks a lot beefier (sp?). I'm curious to know if there is a weight difference between the two & if so - by how much.
I got my Colt M203 receiver, though I'm still waiting on the barrel & a proper mount to arrive since the mount that AU offers won't work for my application (A4 clone). ETA: On a side note... I am happy that they installed the trigger pin in the way that they did (with the roll pin on the right-hand side of the weapon). Most every M203 I've ever handled has it installed with the roll pin on the left-hand side of the weapon & I can't tell you how annoying it is when that little roll pin wants to seemingly snags on/against any piece of fabric within 200 meters lol. |
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Got mine today. The build quality is nicer than the LMT The two on the right are Colt. The one on the left is my 40mm LMT receiver. http://a63.tinypic.com/au8ltw.jpg View Quote what are those two holes on the LMT receiver for(right above the breech face and trigger housing)? I guess us guys waiting on the receiver and bbl. assy', are going to be waiting a bit longer. AU, what's the lead time on those bbls? Regards, IB ETA: Remembered we scored some of these at the old job a couple yrs. back for $50 ea. Picked up the last one there at cost. I have no idea how to use it, lol!: Attached File |
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Coctailer, what are those two holes on the LMT receiver for(right above the breech face and trigger housing)? I guess us guys waiting on the receiver and bbl. assy', are going to be waiting a bit longer. AU, what's the lead time on those bbls? Regards, IB ETA: Remembered we scored some of these at the old job a couple yrs. back for $50 ea. Picked up the last one there at cost. I have no idea how to use it, lol!: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/29005/IMG_2365-376312.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Got mine today. The build quality is nicer than the LMT The two on the right are Colt. The one on the left is my 40mm LMT receiver. http://a63.tinypic.com/au8ltw.jpg what are those two holes on the LMT receiver for(right above the breech face and trigger housing)? I guess us guys waiting on the receiver and bbl. assy', are going to be waiting a bit longer. AU, what's the lead time on those bbls? Regards, IB ETA: Remembered we scored some of these at the old job a couple yrs. back for $50 ea. Picked up the last one there at cost. I have no idea how to use it, lol!: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/29005/IMG_2365-376312.JPG I believe AU's website said Dec 10th. Line up the top of the front sight post with the center of the ears of the range you're shooting at. |
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The holes are for a quadrant sight. I believe AU's website said Dec 10th. Line up the top of the front sight post with the center of the ears of the range you're shooting at. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Got mine today. The build quality is nicer than the LMT The two on the right are Colt. The one on the left is my 40mm LMT receiver. http://a63.tinypic.com/au8ltw.jpg what are those two holes on the LMT receiver for(right above the breech face and trigger housing)? I guess us guys waiting on the receiver and bbl. assy', are going to be waiting a bit longer. AU, what's the lead time on those bbls? Regards, IB ETA: Remembered we scored some of these at the old job a couple yrs. back for $50 ea. Picked up the last one there at cost. I have no idea how to use it, lol!: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/29005/IMG_2365-376312.JPG I believe AU's website said Dec 10th. Line up the top of the front sight post with the center of the ears of the range you're shooting at. That's what I suspected they were for. While on topic, have you or anybody else seen the KAC rail mounted, Quadrant Sights, as an issued item or otherwise have experience with them?: Attached File |
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The LMT receiver looks a lot beefier (sp?). I'm curious to know if there is a weight difference between the two & if so - by how much. View Quote The Colt Weighs in at 1lb 9oz....... 710g The weight difference could even be from the quadrant holes on the LMT They are basically identical weight |
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I believe the warehouse began shipping receivers today, I will confirm if they are shipping with or without barrels. If they shipped without barrels all barrels will be shipped direct to your homes so do not if you receive a receiver without a barrel
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I see that you have them both listed as being out of stock again. Are they actually all sold now?
I know you said that the barrels would ship out by the 10th, but with five days to go, I'm starting to get antsy waiting for a "barrel shipped" notification. |
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You should post some pics of yours. :-) Or did you wait till the barrels were in stock? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Waiting for barrel, DD ris ii FDE rail with barrel cut to 13.5” (flush with rail), Surefire SOCOM warcomp, KA sights, colt AF marked receiver, colt bcg, KA leaf sight/optical, etc all coming together for SOPMOD block II Reference pic: https://goo.gl/images/bK7Gsv View Quote One of my hosts (13.375"): Attached File |
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Waiting for barrel, DD ris ii FDE rail with barrel cut to 13.5” (flush with rail), Surefire SOCOM warcomp, KA sights, colt AF marked receiver, colt bcg, KA leaf sight/optical, etc all coming together for SOPMOD block II Reference pic: https://goo.gl/images/bK7Gsv View Quote |
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How are you attaching thst without the rail mount? View Quote |
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After speaking to Colt on behalf of a customer, they don't typically issue letters for Colt Defense products but are willing to issue official archive collector letters stating the authenticity of the M203s!
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After speaking to Colt on behalf of a customer, they don't typically issue letters for Colt Defense products but are willing to issue official archive collector letters stating the authenticity of the M203s! View Quote Should we deal with them directly as normal with the archives ? |
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I am in for this without hesitation. Should we deal with them directly as normal with the archives ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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After speaking to Colt on behalf of a customer, they don't typically issue letters for Colt Defense products but are willing to issue official archive collector letters stating the authenticity of the M203s! Should we deal with them directly as normal with the archives ? Having never dealt with Colt directly, what are the steps to get this? EDIT: Spelling & anyone else notice the tracking has not updated? |
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Yes, call them direct as usual at the archives and mention the 37mm launchers, the serial number I believe is all they need. I think pricing is typical $100 but may be discounted for these I am not sure, report back on cost please
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Yes, call them direct as usual at the archives and mention the 37mm launchers, the serial number I believe is all they need. I think pricing is typical $100 but may be discounted for these I am not sure, report back on cost please View Quote Colt Archives: (800) 962-(Colt) 2658 ext. 1343 |
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I received an email that a UPS label was created on Dec. 4th but it still shows that it hasn't shipped yet. Is this because you're holding it until the barrels come in and it will ship with them?
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No, it is because we have 200 to ship and with logging them out of our bound book and packing them we couldnt get them all done in a day, all orders should have tracking moving either by today or tomorrow
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No, it is because we have 200 to ship and with logging them out of our bound book and packing them we couldnt get them all done in a day, all orders should have tracking moving either by today or tomorrow View Quote |
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More CRICKETS. However, while we are waiting on the status of the 37mm barrel shipments, I have a couple of questions about real m203 barrels. First, is there an easy way to tell the difference between a Colt and an LMT barrel (preferably with pictures)? Also, does anyone know WHY the manuals say that you should NEVER swap barrels on m203's? Are the barrels somehow headspaced to the receivers?
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No crickets, I clearly said we are waiting on the shipment of barrels.
I don't know what manual you are referring to, the letters we include with each shipment state not to install a 40mm without doing paperwork for legal reasons. From a functionality standpoint there is no issue installing different barrels, as long as the barrel locks securely onto the breach when you close it you are fine. All M203 barrels are made by one company for ALL M203s regardless of the receiver's manufacturer. |
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More CRICKETS. However, while we are waiting on the status of the 37mm barrel shipments, I have a couple of questions about real m203 barrels. First, is there an easy way to tell the difference between a Colt and an LMT barrel (preferably with pictures)? Also, does anyone know WHY the manuals say that you should NEVER swap barrels on m203's? Are the barrels somehow headspaced to the receivers? View Quote This is why I wouldn’t buy used barrels unless I saw that they only had the first factory staking. Most will be loose, and have had Billy-Bob restake them 2-3-4 more times. That is why they are for sale in the first place. The ones you are seeing at KC and SAR are crap, but they will still lob a few chalks before failing. I’ve inspected hundreds of barrels, and wouldn’t pay more than $50 for one in awesome shape. The manual stated to not re-use them because in service, they are lobbing HE rounds. The savings vs importance of each shot in service isn’t worth it For flares and chalkies it isn’t an issue. |
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I don't know what manual you are referring to, the letters we include with each shipment state not to install a 40mm without doing paperwork for legal reasons. From a functionality standpoint there is no issue installing different barrels, as long as the barrel locks securely onto the breach when you close it you are fine. All M203 barrels are made by one company for ALL M203s regardless of the receiver's manufacturer. View Quote Attached File |
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We aren't talking about the 1970s, the barrels/design havent changed since then, LMT wasn't even around back then, so I don't know what you are getting at. I won't be answering anymore stupid questions.
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We aren't talking about the 1970s, the barrels/design havent changed since then, LMT wasn't even around back then, so I don't know what you are getting at. I won't be answering anymore stupid questions. View Quote You said authoritatively that there is only one manufacturer of M203 barrels and he was trying to clarify if that was currently or if has always been that way. I assume he is wanting the proper 40mm barrel for his M203 like one Colt would have shipped with it. Kind of like if you had a Colt M4 upper receiver on it and were building an M4 clone, a Colt barrel would be correct. |
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We aren't talking about the 1970s, the barrels/design havent changed since then, LMT wasn't even around back then, so I don't know what you are getting at. I won't be answering anymore stupid questions. View Quote He clearly said LMT now. Reading is fundamental Your posts or lack there of remind me why I'm happy I've never bought any of your collectible Colt left overs and blems |
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Its been said numerous times, people insist on asking 10 different ways thinking they are going to get a different answer so they can continue the line of questioning.
M203 barrels are ALL coming from the same source, and as far as I know have always came from that source. There aren't that many M203s produced in general therefor no major demand for manufacturers of these types of barrels. There are no difference in markings, not now and not 20 years ago, they've always looked the same, the only options are the 9" or the 12" and the type of handguard you are using in conjunction with the M203. Now if you are hyper analyzing photos and say well in 1970 it was slightly more grey than black, I can't help you with that |
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Quoted: So, you are saying that there has ONLY EVER been one barrel manufacturer, and it is the same company that made the barrels for Colt in the 70's, Colt now, and LMT? View Quote |
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Quoted: I'm almost certain that at one time I had a barrel that was stamped with a "D" in the slide channel about 1" away from the barrel extention. I'm looking at the 4 I have now and don't see one with that stamp. I was told the "D" meant Diemaco which is now Colt Canada. So I'm guessing that could be considered a Colt barrel. Whether they are still making them, or if the new barrels out there have that stamp on them, I don't know. View Quote |
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