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...Honestly a weak answer.... View Quote You are free to characterize anything you want, but It was an honest answer, earnestly given, with the customers best interests at heart. There are many variations of AK magazine, and there are few rifles that can accept every variation without exception. Our engineers have been notified and are looking at the reports to determine the cause and possible remedy. In the AR platform, the magazine is the path of least resistance in the event of a case head separation. While case head separations not a common occurrence, holding an AR by the magazine is not a practice we recommend, as bad ammo can happen to anyone at anytime. |
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Palmetto State Armory
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
You are free to characterize anything you want, but It was an honest answer, earnestly given, with the customers best interests at heart. There are many variations of AK magazine, and there are few rifles that can accept every variation without exception. Our engineers have been notified and are looking at the reports to determine the cause and possible remedy. In the AR platform, the magazine is the path of least resistance in the event of a case head separation. While case head separations not a common occurrence, holding an AR by the magazine is not a practice we recommend, as bad ammo can happen to anyone at anytime. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
...Honestly a weak answer.... You are free to characterize anything you want, but It was an honest answer, earnestly given, with the customers best interests at heart. There are many variations of AK magazine, and there are few rifles that can accept every variation without exception. Our engineers have been notified and are looking at the reports to determine the cause and possible remedy. In the AR platform, the magazine is the path of least resistance in the event of a case head separation. While case head separations not a common occurrence, holding an AR by the magazine is not a practice we recommend, as bad ammo can happen to anyone at anytime. Sound advice. The photos out there are pretty clear on that. |
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Just got my complete upper & LPK delivered and first impression is I like it. I bought the lower months ago so I could go ahead and get a SBR form 1 started (still waiting). I'll assemble everything this weekend and, hopefully, get a chance to shoot it soon. I have several surplus and plastic mags & a couple of surplus drums I plan on trying out. I also found it interesting that the assembled upper has a relief cut out to accommodate a bolt hold open and everything looks like it would drop onto a regular AR upper. Only slight thing I don't like is the BCG is not marked and could easily be confused for a 5.56 BCG.
I look forward to trying it out and hope everything works like it is supposed to. I parted with one of my AKs to fund this project so I hope I'm still happy with it after shooting. Let me know what questions you have and I'll take a look now that it is in my hands. |
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Just got my complete upper & LPK delivered and first impression is I like it. I bought the lower months ago so I could go ahead and get a SBR form 1 started (still waiting). I'll assemble everything this weekend and, hopefully, get a chance to shoot it soon. I have several surplus and plastic mags & a couple of surplus drums I plan on trying out. I also found it interesting that the assembled upper has a relief cut out to accommodate a bolt hold open and everything looks like it would drop onto a regular AR upper. Only slight thing I don't like is the BCG is not marked and could easily be confused for a 5.56 BCG. I look forward to trying it out and hope everything works like it is supposed to. I parted with one of my AKs to fund this project so I hope I'm still happy with it after shooting. Let me know what questions you have and I'll take a look now that it is in my hands. View Quote After looking this rifle over I couldn't help but notice the trigger guard curve at the back or grip side. It looks as if it sits fairly low and I am curious if you or anyone else who has held it finds it to be uncomfortable? |
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Assembled my stripped KS-47 lower yesterday and attached the upper (after first building the lower into a pistol which was marked on the 4473 as "other"). I have not had a chance to fire it yet but I really, really like the weight of this rifle and how it feels when you shoulder it. Since there is no bolt catch or mag release the lower assembly is easier than usual. I ordered the 16 inch carbine kit with the 13 inch FF hand guard that includes a PSA LPK (minus the redundant parts). One note on the LPK - The A2 pistol grip that came in my kit does not fit my lower nor does it fit another of my lowers so it appears that is an issue with the pistol grip as opposed to the lower.
I tried some mags and hand cycling the bolt (no rounds). Chinese, Hungarian (20 rds), and Romanian surplus mags lock into the rifle without issue. I do note that the rifle is very sensitive to the position of the magazine and, on retraction of the bolt, one of the locking lugs on the right side of the bolt will hang on the right feed lip. The tolerance seems very tight in that one spot. I opened 4 of my NIB Chinese 30 rd mags (I can't seem to find where the majority of my AK mags are) and 3 of them had real problems with the feed lip/locking lug if the mag is touched. One a brighter note one of the NIB Chinese doesn't seem to have the problem. One of my more worn Romanian 30 rounders does better than the new mags but was also sensitive to the mag being touched. The BCG has also hung up while moving back forward so it is yet to be seen if that causes any problems with live fire. This rifle has a lot of potential and we will have to see how I feel after I shoot it. I parted with one of my Norinco AK's to fund this so I have high hopes. I wish the mags weren't so sensitive but we'll see how it performs at the range. |
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I shot 120 rounds through it today and I want to really love this rifle. It feels good in the hand and shoots great with with imported steel case ammo. I was surprised how light the entire rifle is and that will just get better when my SBR stamp comes back.
I would be thrilled with the KS-47 except for the magazine issue. I experienced no feeding issues when the magazine is not touching anything but if you pass flatulence (sarcasm) in the direction of the mag while firing it will jam up; a bolt lug is hanging up on the feed lips (both on the right side) as I described earlier. This occurs with every mag (Chinese, Romanian, Polish, Hungarian, Norinco Drum, Romanian Drum) when I hand cycle but I was only shooting Chinese & Hungarians at the range. But seriously, the mag is very sensitive to any pressure and is a real concern. The malfunction is consistent and happens every time the magazine is disturbed. I'm committed to the KS-47 at this point due to the pending form 1 but I'm real concerned about this particular problem. Additionally, when it occurs the bolt lug is hitting the steel mag lip quite hard and I'm curious what kind of repercussions that kind of impact will have on the bolt lug over time. I realize it sounds like an easy fix to just not let the mag touch anything but I was having real problems while shooting from the bench and zeroing an optic. That was the only type of malfunction I had and otherwise it functioned as expected. The gun shoots and handles like a dream. It's accurate, it's lightweight, I'd be totally smitten with it if not for the mag jam issue. PSA - Please, please waive a magic wand and fix the mag issue because, if not for the mag issue, this thing would be an instant favorite. |
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I too have been struggling with magazines that work. I've spent over $200 in magazines trying to find a winning combo. Gen 2 and Gen 3 pmags are the worst. Korean steal with USPalm spring/follower kits installed, Polish surplus (new) won't even fit in the magwell. To be fair the Polish mags had a heavy coat of paint on them. I have a buddy taking the the feed lip belt width down a few .001's, will advise
. Hand charged round doesn't strip off the mag, and repeated FTF's mostly in the first 10 rds of 30. PSA, I emailed you guys this afternoon regarding this. My contact info was included. I'd be happy to help you get things right. I'll even pay for half the shipping if you guys wanna go hands on. Love the rifle and concept and truly just want to see it work. I want to take training courses with this rifle. I bought it to run! But all these failures right now that won't happen. Help us out! Respectfully, Matt Serial number 004xx Thank you! |
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Originally Posted By Redryder79:
I too have been struggling with magazines that work. I've spent over $200 in magazines trying to find a winning combo. Gen 2 and Gen 3 pmags are the worst. Korean steal with USPalm spring/follower kits installed, Polish surplus (new) won't even fit in the magwell. To be fair the Polish mags had a heavy coat of paint on them. I have a buddy taking the the feed lip belt width down a few .001's, will advise . Hand charged round doesn't strip off the mag, and repeated FTF's mostly in the first 10 rds of 30. PSA, I emailed you guys this afternoon regarding this. My contact info was included. I'd be happy to help you get things right. I'll even pay for half the shipping if you guys wanna go hands on. Love the rifle and concept and truly just want to see it work. I want to take training courses with this rifle. I bought it to run! But all these failures right now that won't happen. Help us out! Respectfully, Matt Serial number 004xx Thank you! View Quote IM sent. |
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Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd Columbia, SC 29203 Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950 [email protected] |
Thanks guys! You rock!
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I have the same issue with the BCG scraping the AK pmag. I haven't tried metal mags yet, but have tried gen 2 ak pmags & all seem 2 have the issue however some are more pronounced than others. I have tried it resting on the 30rd mag on a bench & no issues other than tap the fwd assist 1st round when gun is cold. Honestly, it works fine & isn't really a hindrance. After about 10rds the bcg goes right over the mag like it should. I will get some metal mags later this month & report back if there are any issues.
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However other than the cheap ammo & using ak mags:"300BO & 76239 are virtually identical ballistically when similar weight bullets are compared & both muzzle velocity & (BC) are fac2red in With bullets 150+gr the 76239 muzzle velocities best those of the 300BO by more than 200 fps at times Howeverincreased BCs of bullets used in latter negate much of that velocity difference For example, when comparing Hornadys 123gr SST Steel Case (BC=295) & Nosler Match Grade 125gr Ballistic Tip (BC=366)easy2see despite weighing 2gr more+having a 100fps slower muzzlevelocity (2350 fpsV2250 fps)the 300BO load has nearly the same trajec2ry as the 76239 mm With a 100yard zero, the 123gr SST drops 66 inches at 200 yards & 137 inches at 250 yards, while the 125gr BT drops 69 inches at 200 yards & 142 inches at 250 yards, for a difference of 3 inch & 5 inch, respectively Due 2 its higher BC, the 125gr BT retains more velocity than the 123gr SST & therefore produces more energy; at 250 yards the 300BO has 41 addtnl ftlbs energy (minimal, but worth mentioning) But, thats only one part of the equation300BO has the edge regarding fac2ry ammo; not only is it available in subsonic & supersonic variants, but weights, profiles, & expansion characteristics vary greatly Concerning weight, theres a 162gr range (78 gr240 gr) of 30caliber projectiles accessible by h&loaders, whereas options in 03100311 inches for the 76239 mm range from 108150 gr for the h&loader & 154+ gr in commercial ammo Bullets for the latter are generally FMJ in profile, which are good for practice but poor first choices for defense & mostly illegal for hunting There are exp&ing bullets in 310”311” diameters, but selection relatively small Unlike300BO, not able 2 find any subsonic 76239ammo, so supersonic or nothingAvailability of loading components, brass, also favor the 300BO Only advantage 76239 is cheap fac2ry ammo"
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Originally Posted By Prozcrito:
I have the same issue with the BCG scraping the AK pmag. I haven't tried metal mags yet, but have tried gen 2 ak pmags & all seem 2 have the issue however some are more pronounced than others. I have tried it resting on the 30rd mag on a bench & no issues other than tap the fwd assist 1st round when gun is cold. Honestly, it works fine & isn't really a hindrance. After about 10rds the bcg goes right over the mag like it should. I will get some metal mags later this month & report back if there are any issues. View Quote I haven't found my plastic mags yet (around here somewhere) but I do have a nice collection of surplus mags. I used to really be into AKs and found the KS47 appealing because I could use my mags and ammo that I already had. I'm curious to see how the plastic mags work and if they are less prone to jamming but being restricted to pmags defeats the purpose. The KS47's best attribute is being able to use AK surplus and, without that ability, it is much less relevant IMO. If the KS47 requires one to buy Pmags to work properly than just building an AR in 7.62x39 and buying ASC/CPD type mags would be cheaper. Anyways, PSA has been in contact with me and has been very responsive to my inquiries on the matter. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming . |
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as many others asked before, ETA on stripped uppers?
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I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse that I will take. Now, right now, I'm a fuckin' race car, right, and you got me the red.
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No eta on stripped uppers at this time.
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Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd Columbia, SC 29203 Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950 [email protected] |
Originally Posted By vincentvega6:
as many others asked before, ETA on stripped uppers? View Quote I'm taking a guess that we will not see these for a while as PSA is making much more cash selling them in kits with all the other components. If they wanted to release the stripped upper they would. What other reason is there not to? PSA in continuing to release different upper kits and long as the kits are selling at a decent pace I do not think PSA will put the stripped upper for sale. |
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KS47 damaging mags!
So What do you think you guys will do in the long run to correct this problem? Is it a Bolt issue or a Lower issue, give it to me straight I have a Form 1 that I need to cancel depending on your answer. Please don't say I gotta break my MAGS in either. I am not an idiot. The videos on these issues are starting to pile up on social media, surprising how the "big channels" never had any issues, but the masses seem to have the exact same problem. |
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Originally Posted By wayne1one:
KS47 damaging mags! So What do you think you guys will do in the long run to correct this problem? Is it a Bolt issue or a Lower issue, give it to me straight I have a Form 1 that I need to cancel depending on your answer. Please don't say I gotta break my MAGS in either. I am not an idiot. The videos on these issues are starting to pile up on social media, surprising how the "big channels" never had any issues, but the masses seem to have the exact same problem. View Quote Let hope they get back to us with a reasonable answer. They should take ownership of the problem and stand behind their product. |
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Originally Posted By sead0nkey:
Let hope they get back to us with a reasonable answer. They should take ownership of the problem and stand behind their product. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sead0nkey:
Originally Posted By wayne1one:
KS47 damaging mags! So What do you think you guys will do in the long run to correct this problem? Is it a Bolt issue or a Lower issue, give it to me straight I have a Form 1 that I need to cancel depending on your answer. Please don't say I gotta break my MAGS in either. I am not an idiot. The videos on these issues are starting to pile up on social media, surprising how the "big channels" never had any issues, but the masses seem to have the exact same problem. Let hope they get back to us with a reasonable answer. They should take ownership of the problem and stand behind their product. There seems to be some confusion on this topic, and we will try to clear it up. The top of the polymer magazines may lightly rub on the bottom of the carrier, as this dimension of the magazine is not as tightly controlled as it is for steel. This is normal, and should not affect function, but is disconcerting for some people. What was shown in the video is not normal wear, and should be covered under warranty. I suspect CS did not have the full spectrum of the issue from the phone call, and gave what they thought was the correct resolution. We have notified CS to let them know the difference and be prepared to clarify. This would be a bolt or carrier issue, and can be quickly resolved. If you have emailed, or attempted to contact CS with this issue and not been successful, please IM us here and we will get it taken care of. |
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Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd Columbia, SC 29203 Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950 [email protected] |
I finally had some trigger time and really like the rifle despite it giving my gen 2 pmags a high and tight haircut.
Zero malfunctions with about 200 rounds though I did keep it off the bench and didn't touch the mag while shooting. I do yearn for a side charging upper but my super charging handles are en route. They will have to do... |
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Steal of a deal, wish I had waited: http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ks47-16-7-62x39mm-moe-13-m-lok-rifle-kit-ten-10-magpul-30rd-ak-47-pmags.html ETA: Another deal: http://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-psa-ks47-lower-receiver-7793198.html View Quote I happened to run into both of those today, too. KS-47 with Magpul furniture, m-lok handguard, and 10 magazines came out to $848 after tax and shipping. I would have liked to see this upper with a mid-length gas system. But it looks like the only way to get that barrel from them is to buy a different complete upper. Seeing as it comes with that many magazines, I won't lose a bit of sleep if I have to shave a bit off the top of some of them. |
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Bolts are available, a fairly rare occurrence
http://palmettostatearmory.com/7-62x39-ks47-ar47-hybrid-bcg.html |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
There seems to be some confusion on this topic, and we will try to clear it up. The top of the polymer magazines may lightly rub on the bottom of the carrier, as this dimension of the magazine is not as tightly controlled as it is for steel. This is normal, and should not affect function, but is disconcerting for some people. What was shown in the video is not normal wear, and should be covered under warranty. View Quote Can you explain the difference or show some pictures? I just received the KS47 rifle kit and got it all together. I popped a new Magpul magazine in the gun (empty) and pulling the charging handle back the first time took some muscle. When I let go of the charging handle, the bolt carrier started coming forward and then one of the locking lugs caught the upper feed lip of the magazine. I removed the magazine and the bolt carrier traveled home. After repeating that a few times, I can see a little path down the feed lip that's been worn away by the locking lug and there isn't as much resistance pulling the charging handle back. If that's the normal wear, then I can live with it. I'm just wanting to double check. |
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Carry on my wayward son, There'll be peace when you are done.
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Originally Posted By giantpune:
Can you explain the difference or show some pictures? I just received the KS47 rifle kit and got it all together. I popped a new Magpul magazine in the gun (empty) and pulling the charging handle back the first time took some muscle. When I let go of the charging handle, the bolt carrier started coming forward and then one of the locking lugs caught the upper feed lip of the magazine. I removed the magazine and the bolt carrier traveled home. After repeating that a few times, I can see a little path down the feed lip that's been worn away by the locking lug and there isn't as much resistance pulling the charging handle back. If that's the normal wear, then I can live with it. I'm just wanting to double check. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By giantpune:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
There seems to be some confusion on this topic, and we will try to clear it up. The top of the polymer magazines may lightly rub on the bottom of the carrier, as this dimension of the magazine is not as tightly controlled as it is for steel. This is normal, and should not affect function, but is disconcerting for some people. What was shown in the video is not normal wear, and should be covered under warranty. Can you explain the difference or show some pictures? I just received the KS47 rifle kit and got it all together. I popped a new Magpul magazine in the gun (empty) and pulling the charging handle back the first time took some muscle. When I let go of the charging handle, the bolt carrier started coming forward and then one of the locking lugs caught the upper feed lip of the magazine. I removed the magazine and the bolt carrier traveled home. After repeating that a few times, I can see a little path down the feed lip that's been worn away by the locking lug and there isn't as much resistance pulling the charging handle back. If that's the normal wear, then I can live with it. I'm just wanting to double check. Check with a steel magazine. If the bolt clears the steel, it should be ok. The bolt can abrade the plastic, but not cut deep channels. |
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Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd Columbia, SC 29203 Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950 [email protected] |
Thanks. Everything moves as intended with those steel Croatian mags that PSA has. I spent a bit of time with a file on the Magpul ones and got them to quit binding. For anybody else filing theirs, I found that I didn't just have to file directly on top of the feed lips, but also follow the curve of the top of the magazine and work towards the sides.
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Check with a steel magazine. If the bolt clears the steel, it should be ok. The bolt can abrade the plastic, but not cut deep channels. View Quote Have you been able to find any solutions for the bolts that are hanging up on the steel feed lips? I sent mine in 2-3 weeks ago to be looked at. Hoping for the best |
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Have you been able to find any solutions for the bolts that are hanging up on the steel feed lips? I sent mine in 2-3 weeks ago to be looked at. Hoping for the best View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Check with a steel magazine. If the bolt clears the steel, it should be ok. The bolt can abrade the plastic, but not cut deep channels. Have you been able to find any solutions for the bolts that are hanging up on the steel feed lips? I sent mine in 2-3 weeks ago to be looked at. Hoping for the best The simplest solutions IMHO to this would be to machine off, or bevel the 2 lower corners of the 4 and 8 o'clock tabs on the head of the BOLT itself. Assuming this does not affect function? It is not the carrier that is making contact to the magazine. As for bench firing the KS47 while resting on the magazine, this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents |
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Have you been able to find any solutions for the bolts that are hanging up on the steel feed lips? I sent mine in 2-3 weeks ago to be looked at. Hoping for the best View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Check with a steel magazine. If the bolt clears the steel, it should be ok. The bolt can abrade the plastic, but not cut deep channels. Have you been able to find any solutions for the bolts that are hanging up on the steel feed lips? I sent mine in 2-3 weeks ago to be looked at. Hoping for the best PM me your order number and I will see where it is. |
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Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd Columbia, SC 29203 Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950 [email protected] |
Originally Posted By manywits:
... this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents View Quote The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. |
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Palmetto State Armory
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By manywits:
... this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. I understand that the AK and AR are completely different. All I said was that if the KS upper receiver had some aluminum ears or tabs in just the right spot this would solve the problem. My reference to the AK was simply that it provided these ears/tabs to stop the mag from lifting. As an engineer, I can tell you this fix is that simple! leave material on the upper receiver to keep the front of the mag from rising but not so much that it gets in the way of the BCG movement. |
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Stripped uppers please.
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Originally Posted By manywits:
I understand that the AK and AR are completely different. All I said was that if the KS upper receiver had some aluminum ears or tabs in just the right spot this would solve the problem. My reference to the AK was simply that it provided these ears/tabs to stop the mag from lifting. As an engineer, I can tell you this fix is that simple! leave material on the upper receiver to keep the front of the mag from rising but not so much that it gets in the way of the BCG movement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By manywits:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By manywits:
... this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. I understand that the AK and AR are completely different. All I said was that if the KS upper receiver had some aluminum ears or tabs in just the right spot this would solve the problem. My reference to the AK was simply that it provided these ears/tabs to stop the mag from lifting. As an engineer, I can tell you this fix is that simple! leave material on the upper receiver to keep the front of the mag from rising but not so much that it gets in the way of the BCG movement. This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
PM me your order number and I will see where it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Check with a steel magazine. If the bolt clears the steel, it should be ok. The bolt can abrade the plastic, but not cut deep channels. Have you been able to find any solutions for the bolts that are hanging up on the steel feed lips? I sent mine in 2-3 weeks ago to be looked at. Hoping for the best PM me your order number and I will see where it is. PM sent |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
No eta on stripped uppers at this time. View Quote This is what y'all don't seem to get...the only advantage to this platform is its modular form, and if this key component is not made available then it will never achieve any real market share when an AR47 can already do this. I don't see any reason to go with this over an AK or AR47 at this point if I can't build my own from the ground up. I've put thousands of rounds through my AR47 and AK, so this is now off my list. |
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Left-handed and right-minded!
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Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
This is what y'all don't seem to get...the only advantage to this platform is its modular form, and if this key component is not made available then it will never achieve any real market share when an AR47 can already do this. I don't see any reason to go with this over an AK or AR47 at this point if I can't build my own from the ground up. I've put thousands of rounds through my AR47 and AK, so this is now off my list. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
No eta on stripped uppers at this time. This is what y'all don't seem to get...the only advantage to this platform is its modular form, and if this key component is not made available then it will never achieve any real market share when an AR47 can already do this. I don't see any reason to go with this over an AK or AR47 at this point if I can't build my own from the ground up. I've put thousands of rounds through my AR47 and AK, so this is now off my list. I wanted to build a KS-47, but getting all the needed parts were like a mission impossible. I ended up spending all my saving to buy the EVO 3 pistol, 4 months ago. After 4 months of saving, I am now having some funds to restart my KS-47 build idea, but the magazine feed lip issue has stop me. Instead, I just spent all the 4 months saving to build an AR15 300 blackout pistol. On the other hand, I saw that PSA has the blem KS-47 lower receiver with big discount. I would like to buy it, but I am worry that the blem receiver may have deep scratches or heavily tool marks. I am alright with uneven finish, but scratches and tool marks really bother me. Does anyone know the condition of those on sale blem KS-47 stripped lower receiver? Thank you for your input! Cal |
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I snagged a blem stripped ks47 lower receiver recently. I can't find the blemishes on it.
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Only mark on mine was a tiny scretch at the pin hole for the mag release. looks like the pin punch slipped and just barely scratched the anodization. Barely noticiable
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After seeing the two excellent feedbacks, I decided to take the chance to order a blem ks-47 receiver. I logged on to my PSA account and checked my shopping cart. To my surprise, its price went back to normal. That was the great news! Oh wells, with that price, I am no longer having the execuse to buy the receiver that I am not sure when I can complete the build.
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I have a 12.5" 762x39 AR that I'm not wild about because of the temperamental and somewhat expensive ASC mags Can I slap this upper (surplus ammo and arms barrel, AIM BCG, Aero upper) on a PSA lower and run MOE AK mags, Polish AK mags, Bakelite, etc? http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/762x39%20image%203.jpg View Quote No, you need a KS-47 upper as it is slightly wider to accommodate the AK mags. |
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Originally Posted By rlltd42:
No, you need a KS-47 upper as it is slightly wider to accommodate the AK mags. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I have a 12.5" 762x39 AR that I'm not wild about because of the temperamental and somewhat expensive ASC mags Can I slap this upper (surplus ammo and arms barrel, AIM BCG, Aero upper) on a PSA lower and run MOE AK mags, Polish AK mags, Bakelite, etc? http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/762x39%20image%203.jpg No, you need a KS-47 upper as it is slightly wider to accommodate the AK mags. Well fuck |
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Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
This is what y'all don't seem to get...the only advantage to this platform is its modular form, and if this key component is not made available then it will never achieve any real market share when an AR47 can already do this. I don't see any reason to go with this over an AK or AR47 at this point if I can't build my own from the ground up. I've put thousands of rounds through my AR47 and AK, so this is now off my list. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
No eta on stripped uppers at this time. This is what y'all don't seem to get...the only advantage to this platform is its modular form, and if this key component is not made available then it will never achieve any real market share when an AR47 can already do this. I don't see any reason to go with this over an AK or AR47 at this point if I can't build my own from the ground up. I've put thousands of rounds through my AR47 and AK, so this is now off my list. My thoughts exactly. I can't justify the price, when I can get a radical ar-47 for $500 and have cash left to upgrade or put towards ammo. Hell almost enough for a different caliber complete upper... always about the most pew pew for the $$$ |
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The one issue I do have is with modular triggers. CMC won't go in. The leg of the spring for the mag release and the trigger cage of some modular style triggers won't go. Luckily I have an MBT on back order and have a couple Wilson Combats and ALGs I can swap around. For now the CMC POF and timneys may not fit in there.
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By manywits:
... this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. So I challenged the PSA response in regards to the simplicity of this fix and the results are excellent! After machining off the lower corners of the 4 and 8 o'clock tabs of the bolt, the KS47 runs perfectly, even while resting on the magazine. It is still possible to slow the action with extra weight on the rifle but it runs as it should with just the weight of the rifle on the mag. With this simple modification my KS47 has become considerably more reliable and I recomend this to those KS owners who want more reliability out of the rifle. |
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Originally Posted By manywits:
So I challenged the PSA response in regards to the simplicity of this fix and the results are excellent! After machining off the lower corners of the 4 and 8 o'clock tabs of the bolt, the KS47 runs perfectly, even while resting on the magazine. It is still possible to slow the action with extra weight on the rifle but it runs as it should with just the weight of the rifle on the mag. With this simple modification my KS47 has become considerably more reliable and I recomend this to those KS owners who want more reliability out of the rifle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By manywits:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By manywits:
... this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. So I challenged the PSA response in regards to the simplicity of this fix and the results are excellent! After machining off the lower corners of the 4 and 8 o'clock tabs of the bolt, the KS47 runs perfectly, even while resting on the magazine. It is still possible to slow the action with extra weight on the rifle but it runs as it should with just the weight of the rifle on the mag. With this simple modification my KS47 has become considerably more reliable and I recomend this to those KS owners who want more reliability out of the rifle. Sounds good how about some pictures. |
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Originally Posted By bubba556:
Sounds good how about some pictures. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bubba556:
Originally Posted By manywits:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By manywits:
... this too can be fixed if PSA would leave some material in the upper receiver to catch the front of the magazine from lifting, similar to how the AK47 does. Just my 2 cents The AR has different physical properties, materials and dimensions, than the AK. If the issue were that simple, we would do it. So I challenged the PSA response in regards to the simplicity of this fix and the results are excellent! After machining off the lower corners of the 4 and 8 o'clock tabs of the bolt, the KS47 runs perfectly, even while resting on the magazine. It is still possible to slow the action with extra weight on the rifle but it runs as it should with just the weight of the rifle on the mag. With this simple modification my KS47 has become considerably more reliable and I recomend this to those KS owners who want more reliability out of the rifle. Sounds good how about some pictures. Please do post pics Got my pistol upper yesterday and having the same issue. The bolt definitely snags, but also seems like the bolt carrier is dragging. It's a shame cause the mags barely move at all and everything fits nice and snug but just a little movement causes big problems. |
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