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8/22/2008 4:39:36 PM EDT
[#1]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:


Originally Posted By 0351:
I hope MP goes back to the forward charging handles for the 7.62, to keep parts and consistency w/the 5.56 rifle.

My $0.02


0351


Remember that parts compatability is not always the best path to take when building a rifle.  Others have tried and has resulted in constant redesign during the prototype process.  


Mayhaps belgians should stick to waffles?

I kid! I kid!  I never meant to hurt you.....
8/22/2008 5:35:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Looks great! Can't wait to get my grubby lil hands on one.
Proud Member of "Ranstad's Militia," The Fantastic Bastards
8/22/2008 11:18:50 PM EDT
[#3]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?




Hippies.


Do you wear that while shopping on Pearl Street?
Luck favors the prepared.

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it." - Elmer Davis
8/22/2008 11:23:32 PM EDT
[#4]

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?




Hippies.


Do you wear that while shopping on Pearl Street?


I've worn it to Boulder a few times.  I get a lot of cheers from the stinky fuckers until they see the fine print.  Shame on me.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/23/2008 2:08:52 AM EDT
[#5]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?




Hippies.


Do you wear that while shopping on Pearl Street?


I've worn it to Boulder a few times.  I get a lot of cheers from the stinky fuckers until they see the fine print.  Shame on me.


So I guess the real question is,  How do I get one?
8/23/2008 2:22:40 AM EDT
[#6]
If I'm not mistaking the shirts were made by Crye Percision as an insider SHOT Show shit.  

I saw a guy wearing it at SHOT and thought, "that's pretty damn funny,  He was braging to his friends how cool he was because he was an "insider" and got a limited addition shirt.  He was annoying to say the least.  I smacked him and told him to give me his shirt.  It's a cool shirt.  I kid, I never smacked anyone.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/23/2008 9:05:55 AM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?




Hippies.


Do you wear that while shopping on Pearl Street?


I've worn it to Boulder a few times.  I get a lot of cheers from the stinky fuckers until they see the fine print.  Shame on me.


They can read?
Luck favors the prepared.

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it." - Elmer Davis
8/23/2008 1:01:14 PM EDT
[#8]

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?




Hippies.


Do you wear that while shopping on Pearl Street?


I've worn it to Boulder a few times.  I get a lot of cheers from the stinky fuckers until they see the fine print.  Shame on me.


They can read?


They're probably the "college know-it-all" hippies.
8/23/2008 9:11:37 PM EDT
[#9]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:
Your Masada-fu is great, but you still missed one of my favs:

i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/jakjakman/D-ACR1.jpg



Boy is that a funny looking Fella or what?
i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/jakjakman/D-ACR1.jpg


I love how you got your "Team America: FUCK YEAH" patch on the cover of Small Arms Review.

Epic.

There is but one truth in the world and it is all yours. If you are not sure of it stay at home; but if you are sure don't look back and it will be your way.

Honored to be a "Proud Member of Ranstad's Militia"
8/24/2008 12:01:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DrDrake][Edited] [#10]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:
Your Masada-fu is great, but you still missed one of my favs:

i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/jakjakman/D-ACR1.jpg



Boy is that a funny looking Fella or what?
i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/jakjakman/D-ACR1.jpg


I love how you got your "Team America: FUCK YEAH" patch on the cover of Small Arms Review.

Epic.



That's how I roll.  You can't see it in the photo below but the entire patch is visable on the magazine.

Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/24/2008 12:13:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chapperjoe][Edited] [#11]
I taped the cover to the wall in my gun room, it's awesome.

Did they know before it went out?

They obviously cropped it in the digital image.

There is but one truth in the world and it is all yours. If you are not sure of it stay at home; but if you are sure don't look back and it will be your way.

Honored to be a "Proud Member of Ranstad's Militia"
8/24/2008 1:24:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Sooo, any chance we could get the digital original for all the pics in that shoot?
8/24/2008 2:39:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DrDrake][Edited] [#13]

Originally Posted By jakjakman:
Sooo, any chance we could get the digital original for all the pics in that shoot?



I've got a file with the pics from the shoot.  We're hanging on to them for now.  

To be perfectly honest, Magpul's own NickB took the photos in Rich's back yard the day we returned from SHOT this year.  I had to shave the tactical Omish beard.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/24/2008 2:54:37 AM EDT
[#14]
Okay, here's one.



Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/24/2008 5:48:57 PM EDT
[#15]
Flying in to Denver on the day that all the hippies, I mean Democrat convention-goers, will be flying out.

I'd give my left nut to be able to purchase one of these online to wear while getting off the plane.

And record their verbal and facial responses on video . . .



Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?


Hippies.
Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for the night; set a man on fire and he'll burn for the rest of his life.
8/25/2008 2:14:11 AM EDT
[#16]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:
Sooo, any chance we could get the digital original for all the pics in that shoot?



I've got a file with the pics from the shoot.  We're hanging on to them for now.  

To be perfectly honest, Magpul's own NickB took the photos in Rich's back yard the day we returned from SHOT this year.  I had to shave the tactical Omish beard.


Fair enough.  Hope we get to see them all eventually. :)

Oh, and thanks for putting up the new one, totally awesome.  The Multicam and FDE Masada go together so well!
8/25/2008 4:59:50 PM EDT
[#17]
I would like to see the latest picture post of the 3 (I think its 3) colors available for the ACR/Masada.

Black
OD
Flat Dark Earth

Thanks.
8/25/2008 8:16:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Dr.D-
I have seen post from guys praising/bitching about the .308 round in short barrels (and everything that is gained/lost). Have you all ran the Massoud with a short-ish barrel and if so given the difference between that .308 and the 5.56x45 rounds did you see a larger change in what it took to get it to run well.

-From the vids it seems to be running very well as is
Luck favors the prepared.

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it." - Elmer Davis
8/26/2008 12:35:51 PM EDT
[#19]

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Dr.D-
I have seen post from guys praising/bitching about the .308 round in short barrels (and everything that is gained/lost). Have you all ran the Massoud with a short-ish barrel and if so given the difference between that .308 and the 5.56x45 rounds did you see a larger change in what it took to get it to run well.

-From the vids it seems to be running very well as is


Sorry Bro, can't go into details as this project has high OPSEC.  The video's speak for themselves though.  Thanks for understanding.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/26/2008 4:02:07 PM EDT
[#20]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Dr.D-
I have seen post from guys praising/bitching about the .308 round in short barrels (and everything that is gained/lost). Have you all ran the Massoud with a short-ish barrel and if so given the difference between that .308 and the 5.56x45 rounds did you see a larger change in what it took to get it to run well.

-From the vids it seems to be running very well as is


Sorry Bro, can't go into details as this project has high OPSEC.  The video's speak for themselves though.  Thanks for understanding.


Not a problem.
Luck favors the prepared.

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it." - Elmer Davis
8/26/2008 4:08:22 PM EDT
[#21]
I've seen a ton of pics of these guns with cans.  How well do the 5.56 versions (especially SBR's) do with cans on them?  Have you guys shot one suppressed in 7.62x39?  
"I don't think 'homies over hoes' is a sentiment that A Pimp Named Slickback can co-sign on Riley."
8/31/2008 9:11:06 PM EDT
[#22]
Is it just me or is the standard fixed stock version really awesome looking?

I can't get enough of pictures of that thing.  (Hint, hint)

And I'd buy a "Guns Kill" t-shirt.
8/31/2008 9:44:53 PM EDT
[#23]

Originally Posted By Reverend_Deadboy:
Is it just me or is the standard fixed stock version really awesome looking?

I can't get enough of pictures of that thing.  (Hint, hint)

And I'd buy a "Guns Kill" t-shirt.


I really dig the fixed stock.  No doubt I'll have one of each stock but the fixed is a winner for sure.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
9/4/2008 3:13:55 PM EDT
[#24]
So how far behind the ACR is the Massoud? I need to know how soon after I buy my ACR I need to have funds set aside for a Massoud

And are the Massoud's using DPMS mags?
9/4/2008 3:32:44 PM EDT
[#25]
The Massoud is an indeterminate amount of time behind the ACR and last they said, the Massoud is using SR25 mags.

No details have yet been released on the Massoud and who will make it.

These are the last things I have heard so they might have changed.  I try and have a life outside the internet.
9/7/2008 8:34:09 PM EDT
[#26]
height=8
Originally Posted By DrDrake:
I know there will be more Q's to come.  We're not going into the Massoud details at this time.  We want you guys to know that things are moving fantasticlly here.

www.magpul.com/pics/massoud7.jpg


www.magpul.com/pics/massoud8.jpg


www.magpul.com/pics/massoud9.jpg


I die a little every time I see a pic like this.  I can wait.  I know it!

*resumes fetal position in the corner*
9/17/2008 1:37:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Afterwork_Ninja][Edited] [#27]










"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." - U.S. Rep Henry Waxman (D- CA)

"As well it should"
9/17/2008 2:40:48 PM EDT
[#28]
This thread is made of pure win...even more epic than the Russian Cheerleader thread in BOTD!
angels bleed from the tainted touch of my caress
9/17/2008 2:49:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Is my man card in jeopardy if I admit that I like the purple one?



"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." - U.S. Rep Henry Waxman (D- CA)

"As well it should"
9/17/2008 5:16:39 PM EDT
[#30]

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:


That picture is tagged as a 16", but it looks more like a 14.5". Can anyone at Magpul confirm?

Also, what is the internal diameter of the forward most part of the ACR's hand guards? IE: Will a KX3 fit under the HG's?
9/17/2008 5:59:28 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
i84.photobucket.com/albums/k5/Prizm1/masada16inch.jpg

That picture is tagged as a 16", but it looks more like a 14.5". Can anyone at Magpul confirm?

14.5 with long HG.


Also, what is the internal diameter of the forward most part of the ACR's hand guards? IE: Will a KX3 fit under the HG's?

KX3 fits
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
9/17/2008 6:19:38 PM EDT
[#32]

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
i84.photobucket.com/albums/k5/Prizm1/masada16inch.jpg

That picture is tagged as a 16", but it looks more like a 14.5". Can anyone at Magpul confirm?

Also, what is the internal diameter of the forward most part of the ACR's hand guards? IE: Will a KX3 fit under the HG's?


I've seen photos of KX3s poking out from under those handguards:






Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for the night; set a man on fire and he'll burn for the rest of his life.
9/17/2008 6:22:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Hmm, those pictures make me think a 13.7" "Infidel" style upper may be the ultimate (Non-NFA) Masada!
angels bleed from the tainted touch of my caress
9/17/2008 7:35:30 PM EDT
[#34]
height=8
Originally Posted By decodeddiesel:
Hmm, those pictures make me think a 13.7" "Infidel" style upper may be the ultimate (Non-NFA) Masada!


Yes Sir, that is what I'm hoping to do with the two I will be getting when they are released.
9/18/2008 2:13:12 PM EDT
[#35]
If the Masada shoots as good as it looks the AR series has one hell of a contender.
9/18/2008 7:50:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Contender....he  Just need to beat the Demo-crats to the AWBhinking.gif

-Kag
9/22/2008 1:09:36 AM EDT
[#37]
I was lucky enough to shoot an ACR this weekend...

Man, I got to tell ya, it is worth the wait!!

Awesome just fing awesome!

Mike
"Taking fire, breaking right"

BUY A TEAM MEMBERSHIP!!!

DON'T laugh I only have one AR!

GUN GALLERY 4 LIFE!
9/24/2008 9:16:33 AM EDT
[#38]
Silencer Shoot '08


9/24/2008 10:42:44 AM EDT
[#39]

Originally Posted By Kag:
Contender....More like a replacement.  The AR is a great platform but everything the AR can do the Masada can do better and then some.  I still have questions about replacement parts and barrel group mods, but other than that I'm pretty excited about Magpuls new creation.  Just need to beat the Demo-crats to the AWB

-Kag


Agreed, I will probably sell my LMT Defender 2000 in order to finance the purchase of an ACR when they become available. I am still debating a move back to New England when I finish my master's degree to be closer to my Mother and Sister, which means I will be back behind enemy lines.  Bringing an ACR to ban compliance will be WAY easier than bringing an M4'gery to compliance.  If I am understanding things correctly I will have to snap out the folding stock, replace with fixed stock, ratchet off threaded FH equiped barrel for non-threaded barrel or non-FH equipped barrel, stash evil stuff with buddy in New Hampshire.  Or just move to New Hampshire  
angels bleed from the tainted touch of my caress
9/24/2008 7:15:41 PM EDT
[#40]

Originally Posted By Solidius:
Silencer Shoot '08
farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2885105100_d3ff603597_o.jpg
farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2884271093_5bd022cbc1_o.jpg
farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2884271123_c6f12c1cf6_o.jpg


How'd you like it with the silencer? Do you get as much gas blowback as with an AR? Even with a GB charging handle I don't like to shoot my AR suppressed too much.
9/25/2008 12:26:29 AM EDT
[#41]

Originally Posted By Balisong:

Originally Posted By Solidius:
Silencer Shoot '08
farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2885105100_d3ff603597_o.jpg
farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2884271093_5bd022cbc1_o.jpg
farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2884271123_c6f12c1cf6_o.jpg


How'd you like it with the silencer? Do you get as much gas blowback as with an AR? Even with a GB charging handle I don't like to shoot my AR suppressed too much.


I shoot it in full auto (5-6 rd burst) with the can and had no blowback...

BTW I love AAC cans!

Mike
"Taking fire, breaking right"

BUY A TEAM MEMBERSHIP!!!

DON'T laugh I only have one AR!

GUN GALLERY 4 LIFE!
9/25/2008 1:39:31 AM EDT
[#42]
piston gas system = no gas blowback in your face
9/25/2008 7:48:33 AM EDT
[#43]

Originally Posted By AKD:
piston gas system = no gas blowback in your face


Not entirely true. I still get gas blowback with my PWS conversion shooting with a can on. It's probably reduced, but it is definitely still there.
9/25/2008 11:27:51 AM EDT
[#44]
height=8
Originally Posted By AceV:
height=8
Originally Posted By AKD:
piston gas system = no gas blowback in your face


Not entirely true. I still get gas blowback with my PWS conversion shooting with a can on. It's probably reduced, but it is definitely still there.


It would depend on which way the gas is directed. The Adams Arms system sends it forward around the gas block, not back.

-Kag
9/25/2008 11:51:29 AM EDT
[#45]

Originally Posted By AceV:

Originally Posted By AKD:
piston gas system = no gas blowback in your face


Not entirely true. I still get gas blowback with my PWS conversion shooting with a can on. It's probably reduced, but it is definitely still there.


True. I was not accounting for blowback down the barrel.
9/25/2008 1:40:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
9/25/2008 2:27:30 PM EDT
[#47]

Originally Posted By AKD:

Originally Posted By AceV:

Originally Posted By AKD:
piston gas system = no gas blowback in your face


Not entirely true. I still get gas blowback with my PWS conversion shooting with a can on. It's probably reduced, but it is definitely still there.


True. I was not accounting for blowback down the barrel.


You don't get blowback in your face because there is no cutout for the charging handle right in front of your face.
"It makes no difference what men think of war... War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting the ultimate practitioner." CM.
9/26/2008 2:55:19 PM EDT
[#48]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Vickers%20Tactical%2008/IMG_0950.jpg


Is that a Bushmaster built ACR?
9/27/2008 10:25:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AceV][Edited] [#49]

Originally Posted By Kag:

Originally Posted By AceV:

Originally Posted By AKD:
piston gas system = no gas blowback in your face


Not entirely true. I still get gas blowback with my PWS conversion shooting with a can on. It's probably reduced, but it is definitely still there.


It would depend on which way the gas is directed. The Adams Arms system sends it forward around the gas block, not back.

-Kag


There's still blowback down the barrel. It doesn't matter which gas system you're using on an AR15 platform.

Like Combat_Jack pointed out, on an AR15 platform the C/H is the vent point for gas, even with a piston system.
9/27/2008 10:46:04 PM EDT
[#50]
The more I see that fixed stock, the more I like it.... What's the length of it?

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