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Posted: 11/26/2012 9:00:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cynergyzed: How about the high capacity fuel tank's that farmer's have? I'm not sure that they use them anymore. I've seen some big fuel tank's with the regular gas pump hose and nozzle still in tact..Now they would be excellent for storing alot of fuel. Welcome to the SF  The farm tanks are still around, and there are some SFers that have a farm type home that have those tanks. I can think of 3 or 4, and one even posted pics on page one of this thread. Yes the farm tanks are great for storing large amounts of fuel, but not everyone in the SF can have a tank at home. Many SFers have to live near a thing called a job that happens in a thing called a town. Now in the thing called a town there are these people that live really close called neighbors. Some neighbors are good some neighbors are not, so towms make laws to make people get along. Many towns have laws against keeping such an obvious fire hazard as a farm fuel tank. That is the long way of saying that if you can have a farm tank you are free to get one, but when you take the time to make friends here you will see that few of us here live where we can have a farm tank. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 5:52:12 PM EDT
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My search for fuel cans lead me to the SF. Been lirking every since.
Ordered and received 10 20L cans from AB earlier this month and they all looked good except for 2 where you could see the lining on the inside had dripped when it was drying. Didn't think it was a big deal and filled them. Got the first part of my cyber Monday order today of 4 10L cans. All of them have the same drips in the inside coating but I also noticed there were small green specs where it looks like the lining dripped away before it dried. Anyone else notice this in their cans or think it'll be an issue? On another note, the 10L cans are stamped with "petroleum spirits, highly flammable" but the stickers say I should only put water in them? Do the Brits have flammable water? 
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:39:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SR712]
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They are imported and sold as a water can, as cans for fuel use like these are currently prohibited by laws to import, thanks to the CARB requirements.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 12:08:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SR712:
They are imported and sold as a water can, as cans for fuel use like these are currently prohibited by laws to import, thanks to the CARB EPA and CPSC requirements. FTFY. But yeah, the Commiefornians started it. |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 12:41:23 PM EDT
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Just got in my 6-pack of cans yesterday from AB! NICE!!! Filled two up on the way home from work and added Stabil.
Gonna fill the others up as needed.... These cans ROCK! 
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Posted: 12/2/2012 6:38:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NDT3]
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I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased.
Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new And here also:http://www.troph-e-shop.com/en/bw-benzinkanister-20-ltr-metall-oliv-neuwertig.html 
Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? 
As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. 
PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket UPDATE 12/22/12 Sorry to disappoint anyone but I will not be testing the cans. I returned the two cans and used the $60 toward brand new cans with the correct gaskets and lining from Atlantic British. |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:34:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By NDT3:
I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased. Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0315.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0316.jpg Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0319.jpg As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0326.jpg PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket I had red gaskets from some cans I bought a few years ago from CTD. They swell bad and I bought new gaskets from Oldgrouch and all is good. Wish I could find $30 cans 
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:14:43 PM EDT
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Someone please direct me to the "old grouch"?
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:29:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By adluginb:
Someone please direct me to the "old grouch"? Thanks http://store.oldgrouch.biz/ |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2012 4:06:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gentj491]
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Originally Posted By NDT3:
I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased. Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0315.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0316.jpg Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0319.jpg As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0326.jpg PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket I have four of the exact same cans I purchased in September 2009 from Deutsche Optik. I replaced the pink gaskets(I still have them around somewhere) with some fuel resistant gaskets from Deutsche Optik with the intention of utilizing them for gasoline storage but never got around to filling them. Well one thing led to another and just last week I was doing an inventory of my gas storage and rotation and found these cans in very back of my shed. After much combing through the Fuel Can Oracle I could not find a definitive answer to the stability of the grey "food grade lining" when using them with gasoline. I even Googled the NSN to see if I could get any info, but what I found was too general in nature. If you could be so kind as to report back on what you find I would appreciate it. |
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:08:28 AM EDT
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So I picked up a nice can today that has a little rust in it so I just filled it boiling water and vinegar. Well it has a very slow leak. When I wipe away the moisture at the bottom seam it will start to glisten after a few seconds. Would you try to repair this or junk it?
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:38:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WShifflett: So I picked up a nice can today that has a little rust in it so I just filled it boiling water and vinegar. Well it has a very slow leak. When I wipe away the moisture at the bottom seam it will start to glisten after a few seconds. Would you try to repair this or junk it? Lots of ???? before you get to an answer. There are kits for lining fuel tanks...these kits are marketed toward auto restoration folks that are faced with lining a fuel tank or finding a replacement made of unobtanium. The cost to line a jerry can might be more than you wish to pay. What I have done: I had a pickup that had 2 saddle tanks. One tank leaked. I got some epoxy from walmart that was labeled to be hold against fuel and water and marine rated etc. This was the kind that was in a little stick that had the 2 parts. your supposed to pinch off what you need then kneed that and press the mix into place. Sooo I made however many plugs I needed and stuffed theses epoxy plugs into the tank where it leaked. Allow time for epoxy to cure and problem solved. If the can you have is seeping then it may have a lot of metal that is corroded very thin. If there is are large areas of the metal that are weak then you may not be able to patch one hole |
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Posted: 12/9/2012 1:04:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PA22-400:
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
So I picked up a nice can today that has a little rust in it so I just filled it boiling water and vinegar. Well it has a very slow leak. When I wipe away the moisture at the bottom seam it will start to glisten after a few seconds. Would you try to repair this or junk it? If the can you have is seeping then it may have a lot of metal that is corroded very thin. If there is are large areas of the metal that are weak then you may not be able to patch one hole It has very little rust inside really. I was very surprised to see it seeping. It is filled to the brim though as I tilted it back and filled it right to the base of the threads. |
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Posted: 12/9/2012 1:25:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WShifflett:
So I picked up a nice can today that has a little rust in it so I just filled it boiling water and vinegar. Well it has a very slow leak. When I wipe away the moisture at the bottom seam it will start to glisten after a few seconds. Would you try to repair this or junk it? So its been outside for a couple hours and there is no sign of any additional leaking. Just damp around the seam still. |
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Posted: 12/9/2012 9:30:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WShifflett: Originally Posted By WShifflett: So I picked up a nice can today that has a little rust in it so I just filled it boiling water and vinegar. Well it has a very slow leak. When I wipe away the moisture at the bottom seam it will start to glisten after a few seconds. Would you try to repair this or junk it? So its been outside for a couple hours and there is no sign of any additional leaking. Just damp around the seam still. Interesting...If the seam...[just one ping]Just the seam[/just one ping]...then you might be able to re-weld the seam. If you got a deal on the can and would be able to DIY or get a buddy to weld. |
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Posted: 12/11/2012 8:58:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gentj491:
Originally Posted By NDT3:
I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased. Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0315.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0316.jpg Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0319.jpg As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0326.jpg PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket I have four of the exact same cans I purchased in September 2009 from Deutsche Optik. I replaced the pink gaskets(I still have them around somewhere) with some fuel resistant gaskets from Deutsche Optik with the intention of utilizing them for gasoline storage but never got around to filling them. Well one thing led to another and just last week I was doing an inventory of my gas storage and rotation and found these cans in very back of my shed. After much combing through the Fuel Can Oracle I could not find a definitive answer to the stability of the grey "food grade lining" when using them with gasoline. I even Googled the NSN to see if I could get any info, but what I found was too general in nature. If you could be so kind as to report back on what you find I would appreciate it. I will test one of the cans when I get the gaskets from Old Grouch. Its been 9 days since I got my order confirmation......better call tomorrow and see what the wait is. |
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Posted: 12/12/2012 6:11:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NDT3:
Originally Posted By gentj491:
Originally Posted By NDT3:
I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased. Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0315.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0316.jpg Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0319.jpg As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0326.jpg PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket I have four of the exact same cans I purchased in September 2009 from Deutsche Optik. I replaced the pink gaskets(I still have them around somewhere) with some fuel resistant gaskets from Deutsche Optik with the intention of utilizing them for gasoline storage but never got around to filling them. Well one thing led to another and just last week I was doing an inventory of my gas storage and rotation and found these cans in very back of my shed. After much combing through the Fuel Can Oracle I could not find a definitive answer to the stability of the grey "food grade lining" when using them with gasoline. I even Googled the NSN to see if I could get any info, but what I found was too general in nature. If you could be so kind as to report back on what you find I would appreciate it. I will test one of the cans when I get the gaskets from Old Grouch. Its been 9 days since I got my order confirmation......better call tomorrow and see what the wait is. All gasket orders should ship today- we have been behind a bit but are getting caught back up. |
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Posted: 12/12/2012 9:41:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
Originally Posted By NDT3:
Originally Posted By gentj491:
Originally Posted By NDT3:
I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased. Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0315.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0316.jpg Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0319.jpg As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0326.jpg PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket I have four of the exact same cans I purchased in September 2009 from Deutsche Optik. I replaced the pink gaskets(I still have them around somewhere) with some fuel resistant gaskets from Deutsche Optik with the intention of utilizing them for gasoline storage but never got around to filling them. Well one thing led to another and just last week I was doing an inventory of my gas storage and rotation and found these cans in very back of my shed. After much combing through the Fuel Can Oracle I could not find a definitive answer to the stability of the grey "food grade lining" when using them with gasoline. I even Googled the NSN to see if I could get any info, but what I found was too general in nature. If you could be so kind as to report back on what you find I would appreciate it. I will test one of the cans when I get the gaskets from Old Grouch. Its been 9 days since I got my order confirmation......better call tomorrow and see what the wait is. All gasket orders should ship today- we have been behind a bit but are getting caught back up. Thanks for chiming in! Saved me the phone call. 
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Posted: 12/12/2012 5:13:23 PM EDT
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Here's an idea for the "NO FUEL" imprinted cans - slap a sticker over the imprint.
http://www.compliancesigns.com/DOT-13231.shtml 
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Posted: 12/12/2012 5:26:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xmikex:
Here's an idea for the "NO FUEL" imprinted cans - slap a sticker over the imprint. http://www.compliancesigns.com/DOT-13231.shtml http://www.jjkeller.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore/images/catalog/small/00265_sm.jpg Or better: This can contains gasoline |
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Posted: 12/13/2012 11:00:19 PM EDT
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I have to say that if I were to store water or other liquids in these cans, I'd paint the darn things.
Blue for water, red for gas, yellow for diesel, black for oil. Doesn't have to be the whole can; just a stripe around the midsection or something, same with the corresponding nozzles. |
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Posted: 12/13/2012 11:34:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SR712]
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I think blue is for Kerosene. Tan, Light Blue or Black for water.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 10:01:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zaphod: I have to say that if I were to store water or other liquids in these cans, I'd paint the darn things. Blue for water, red for gas, yellow for diesel, black for oil. Doesn't have to be the whole can; just a stripe around the midsection or something, same with the corresponding nozzles. I am kinda big on making my water containers feel different from fuel containers. I have several personal reasons. One reason goes back to having to fuel generators in the dark when I was on active duty. |
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Posted: 12/16/2012 4:13:42 AM EDT
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Is it common for the locking metal "pin" to be bent and a pain to slide / "lock" or "unlock"?
About half of my cans have straight pins that work great with little or no resistance, and the other half are pretty bent and a pain to wiggle out. In theory it looks like you could replace them if you cut off the flat part of the pin, get some new long pins and then flatten the tips, but I'm not sure it would be worth it. Found this thread which mentions possible replacements, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has ever bothered with this...? |
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Posted: 12/16/2012 5:09:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brianboru: Is it common for the locking metal "pin" to be bent and a pain to slide / "lock" or "unlock"? About half of my cans have straight pins that work great with little or no resistance, and the other half are pretty bent and a pain to wiggle out. In theory it looks like you could replace them if you cut off the flat part of the pin, get some new long pins and then flatten the tips, but I'm not sure it would be worth it. Found this thread which mentions possible replacements, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has ever bothered with this...? and from the thread you linked My cans are NATO surplus and don't have the locking hole. FWIW, I've been using NATO cans for fuel for about 20 years and have never had one even begin to open on it's own. My bigger concern is someone stealing fuel. If one of those pins gave me trouble I would make the troublesome pin go byby. |
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:14:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 220ST]
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Any good way to pop out a "squished" nato can? I got a 4 pack today from AB and Fed Ex wasn't very kind. 3 of the 4 cans were dented or dinged. I don't think its worth going the through the hassle of trying to have the can replaced. The 2 dinged cans won't affect capacity. The squished can looks like its volume capacity is going to be less that the 5 liters it was supposed to hold.
Any way to steam it out? No fluids have been added to the can yet. |
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:48:01 PM EDT
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You might try the dent pulling methods that body shops use.
I know there are weld on and glue on pulling tools. You could ask a body shop I hope this helps. Originally Posted By 220ST: Any good way to pop out a "squished" nato can? I got a 4 pack today from AB and Fed Ex wasn't very kind. 3 of the 4 cans were dented or dinged. I don't think its worth going the through the hassle of trying to have the can replaced. The 2 dinged cans won't affect capacity. The squished can looks like its volume capacity is going to be less that the 5 liters it was supposed to hold. Any way to steam it out? No fluids have been added to the can yet. |
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:48:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 220ST:
Any good way to pop out a "squished" nato can? I got a 4 pack today from AB and Fed Ex wasn't very kind. 3 of the 4 cans were dented or dinged. I don't think its worth going the through the hassle of trying to have the can replaced. The 2 dinged cans won't affect capacity. The squished can looks like its volume capacity is going to be less that the 5 liters it was supposed to hold. Any way to steam it out? No fluids have been added to the can yet. Contact AB They Will Make It Right |
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:52:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA22-400]
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Probably best
Originally Posted By TailHunter: Contact AB They Will Make It Right |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:57:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 220ST]
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Edited: BA made me a deal, the can is mine. Here is a better pic than originally posted. Is this going to affect capacity very much? And any good way to pop it out?
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:05:06 AM EDT
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Well I do not see what you mean by your circle, but I am able to see the side caved in.
With all the drama that we go through to get these good cans now; first I'd try to get it replaced, then if that fell through I'd try to pull the dent without punching a hole in the can. |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:13:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 220ST]
[#32]
edited. new pic up above.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:23:22 AM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By 220ST:
Originally Posted By PA22-400:
Well I do not see what you mean by your circle, but I am able to see the side caved in. Yeah, that is the creased area, but hard to pic up with an iPhone camera. I guess I'll call tomorrow and see what they say. Just really don't want to spend $20 plus to send it back. If Fedex damaged it you shouldn't pay jack to send it back. Items shipped on common carriers are FOB Destination, which means they are the seller's responsibility until you receive it. The way it should go is you contact AB, they file a claim with Fedex, Fedex comes and picks up the cans, and they and AB fight over who is responsible. In the meantime AB should send you a replacement item. If you want to give AB a hand take plenty of pictures of the damage to the cans AND, more importantly, the damage to the packaging. It's a lot harder for Fedex to claim they didn't do it when you have a pic of the hole punched in the side of a box that lines up perfectly with thee dent on the object. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:23:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 220ST]
[#34]
Edited. Got a hold of BA, and they are taking care of me.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:13:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Originally Posted By 220ST:
Originally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By 220ST:
Originally Posted By PA22-400:
Well I do not see what you mean by your circle, but I am able to see the side caved in. Yeah, that is the creased area, but hard to pic up with an iPhone camera. I guess I'll call tomorrow and see what they say. Just really don't want to spend $20 plus to send it back. If Fedex damaged it you shouldn't pay jack to send it back. Items shipped on common carriers are FOB Destination, which means they are the seller's responsibility until you receive it. The way it should go is you contact AB, they file a claim with Fedex, Fedex comes and picks up the cans, and they and AB fight over who is responsible. In the meantime AB should send you a replacement item. If you want to give AB a hand take plenty of pictures of the damage to the cans AND, more importantly, the damage to the packaging. It's a lot harder for Fedex to claim they didn't do it when you have a pic of the hole punched in the side of a box that lines up perfectly with thee dent on the object. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The main issue that caused the damage was the thin walled cardboard the cans came in. A shipping label was put on the manufactures 4 pack box, then shipped out. I don't think the box as meant to withstand the rigors of shipping these cans across county, especially during the holiday season. The box itself shows zero damage on the outside. It would be similar to putting a shipping label on a carton of eggs, and then expecting them to be intact after sending them across country. Again, that's AB's problem. Fedex might deny their shipping damage claim based on improper packaging (and it sounds like they should) but that does not mean you must accept damaged goods. Just make sure you take pics before you return it so that no one can say the damage happened on the return trip. 
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:31:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 220ST]
[#36]
I was trying not get worked up over this.
Edited. Got a hold of BA, and they are taking care of me, but the cans are mine now. 
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Posted: 12/21/2012 6:04:11 AM EDT
[#37]
I wonder if filling the can with water and freezing it would pop it back into shape...
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Posted: 12/21/2012 4:32:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By xmikex:
I wonder if filling the can with water and freezing it would pop it back into shape... Ive done this with antique drinking flask. Sometimes it works and sometimes you pop the seam. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:18:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By WShifflett:
Originally Posted By xmikex:
I wonder if filling the can with water and freezing it would pop it back into shape... Ive done this with antique drinking flask. Sometimes it works and sometimes you pop the seam. I like the freezing method better than the steam method. Seems much safer, and no heat is damaging the gasket. I'll first try and measure the amount of liquid the can currently holds. If it is close to 5 gallons, I'll just leave it be. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:37:46 PM EDT
[#40]
220ST I just saw your updated pic.
If that were my can and I wanted to get as close to original volume as possible...I would try to pull the dent out about where the 12 is on the yardstick. http://www.harborfreight.com/crossbar-dent-repair-kit-66957.html A body work friend was using a slide hammer and this kit to pull dents Originally Posted By 220ST: Originally Posted By WShifflett: Originally Posted By xmikex: I wonder if filling the can with water and freezing it would pop it back into shape... Ive done this with antique drinking flask. Sometimes it works and sometimes you pop the seam. I like the freezing method better than the steam method. Seems much safer, and no heat is damaging the gasket. I'll first try and measure the amount of liquid the can currently holds. If it is close to 5 gallons, I'll just leave it be. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:24:32 PM EDT
[#41]
That's a good idea!
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IL, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2012 10:36:26 AM EDT
[#42]
Or stuff an innertube inside and try to inflate it. May work.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 1:10:05 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By NDT3:
I wanted to document, in the correct place, the info about the two Jerry Can I recently purchased. Thread is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/661917_.html&page=1&anc=11305006#i11305006 I was in a local farm store today and came across two of these Jerry Cans which they were asking $30 each. I have never bought a Jerry Can before nor ever even seen one up close but I knew that $30 was a good price. Only problem was that I was not too sure about their suitability for gasoline as 1) the yellow around the spout, 2) red gasket, and 3) grey lining. I was pretty sure gas suitable cans were red lined and and the gaskets black. I decided to go ahead and buy them and come home and research the fuel can oracle thread. I went through all 25 pages but could not find reference to the combination of yellow paint, red gasket, grey lining. But I did notice that the 7th post on page one does seem to have a picture of one. Searching the interwebs I did come across this which looks to be what I bought: http://www.gisurplus.co.uk/shop/product.php/1117/wholesale-bulk-german-jerry-can-suppliers-new And here also:http://www.troph-e-shop.com/en/bw-benzinkanister-20-ltr-metall-oliv-neuwertig.html http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0315.jpg http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0316.jpg Hmmm grey lining and a pink gasket??? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0319.jpg As suggested by PA22-400 in the original thread above I tested one of the gaskets by leaving it in gasoline over night. Swelled quite a bit so probably a water gasket. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/Rsng5/IMG_0326.jpg PA22-400 has a theory that the lining may indeed be OK for fuel and the water gasket was just put in place in order to be imported into the USA. I am going to order some of the correct gaskets from Old Grouch and test one of the cans with gasoline to see if the grey lining strips off. Will come back and update this post when I have tested the can with correct gasket Sorry to disappoint anyone but I will not be testing the cans. I returned the two cans and used the $60 toward brand new cans with the correct gaskets and lining from Atlantic British. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 1:22:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
[#44]
Originally Posted By 220ST:
Edited: BA made me a deal, the can is mine. Here is a better pic than originally posted. Is this going to affect capacity very much? And any good way to pop it out? http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/Brauer/Turkey/can1_zps84c26f8a.jpg To see how much capacity you've lost, here's an idea. Make a clay 'dam' around the dent and see how much water it takes to make the water level approx equal to the sides of the can. My guess is about 3 cupfulls, but I'm not sure I'm seeing the dent the same as it really is. |
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Posted: 12/24/2012 1:31:13 AM EDT
[#45]
Here's an idea, just make sure it doesn't leak. Then fill it and don't worry about it.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 8:35:29 AM EDT
[#46]
Fill it in the winter. Seal it up. Keep it in your garage. By August, you should have no dent.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 1:50:54 PM EDT
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Back visiting family in WI for Xmas and found these at fleet farm.
These had the dummy spouts. A little less than the AB cans. Had the same lining but the seams didn't look as good. Same markings ok the center handle as the BA cans too. 
These came with the spout but the price was $70. About the same with shipping if I ordered from BA. Same markings on the handles and when I opened them, they had the same smell. Lining looked good in both cans. 
This is the only difference I found besides the color from the AB cans. 
Bought 2 to add some color variety to my green AB cans.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 2:52:59 PM EDT
[#48]
Just a heads up that British Atlantic has free shipping on orders over $199 until the 26th. 5 cans end up right at $199.75 - Merry Christmas!
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2012 2:18:20 PM EDT
[#49]
5 cans plus 2 spouts $233 and change
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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:36:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By SR712:
Fill it in the winter. Seal it up. Keep it in your garage. By August, you should have no dent. The "dented" can held 5.3 gallons of fluid. I was trying to get 5.25 gallons in, but lost track when the meter shut off halfway thru filling 4 cans and had to resubmit my debit card. It'll sit a summer in the garage and then I'll see if the dent is still there.
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