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Posted: 1/3/2014 1:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Not bad. We've bought them at abt $40to $50 over the years, longer ago less, and have maybe 3 and also from Harbor Freight, theirs are similar. Plus another 6 or so bought at farm stores like Tractor Supply in CA, years ago. The thing in particular to look for is the cap. If it's plastic, then I don't like those as well as the ones with the old military style flat metal cap with the 4 tabs turned up on the perimeter to help unscrew it. A few years ago the caps were metal, now they seem to be plastic. I will say the 'rubber' gasket in the plastic caps swells up. I ordered some Viton to make new gaskets but haven't gotten around to it. All in all, I think used Sceptre MFC's would be a better investment at half again the cost. That's what we use mostly cause I anticipated their future scarcity and glad I did. If I could find more metal cans at the farm stores or H-F, with the flat metal cap, I'd git them. Most folks I've observed, don't have the sense needed to take care of the metal cans and prevent the bottoms from rusting because of the way they are stored. So be careful. ETA, are you sure you can still get the Fleet Farm cans with the jerry style cap. Don't think so... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By dispatch55126:
How are the Fleet Farm Jerry Cans? They're made (or at least sold under the Midwest name) and come with either a screw cap or traditional jerry can spout. Not bad. We've bought them at abt $40to $50 over the years, longer ago less, and have maybe 3 and also from Harbor Freight, theirs are similar. Plus another 6 or so bought at farm stores like Tractor Supply in CA, years ago. The thing in particular to look for is the cap. If it's plastic, then I don't like those as well as the ones with the old military style flat metal cap with the 4 tabs turned up on the perimeter to help unscrew it. A few years ago the caps were metal, now they seem to be plastic. I will say the 'rubber' gasket in the plastic caps swells up. I ordered some Viton to make new gaskets but haven't gotten around to it. All in all, I think used Sceptre MFC's would be a better investment at half again the cost. That's what we use mostly cause I anticipated their future scarcity and glad I did. If I could find more metal cans at the farm stores or H-F, with the flat metal cap, I'd git them. Most folks I've observed, don't have the sense needed to take care of the metal cans and prevent the bottoms from rusting because of the way they are stored. So be careful. ETA, are you sure you can still get the Fleet Farm cans with the jerry style cap. Don't think so... My store still carries them. $40 for the screw lid, $70 for the jerry flip-up with spout. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2014 10:17:15 AM EDT
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Is it ok to store just 5 gallons in 20 liter cans? I know full is 5.3ish gallons and most are recommending full as better than partially full. Am I good to go with just 5 gal or is that leaving too much headspace?
Especially since its winter now and the fuel will expand by summer. Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 10:48:50 PM EDT
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Seems I've read not to store these cans on a concrete floor? How do you guys store yours off the floor? Mine will be in my shop - uninsulated, concrete floored pole barn.
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Posted: 1/11/2014 10:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number9XD:
Seems I've read not to store these cans on a concrete floor? How do you guys store yours off the floor? Mine will be in my shop - uninsulated, concrete floored pole barn. ... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. |
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Posted: 1/12/2014 12:01:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By njitmetal:
Is it ok to store just 5 gallons in 20 liter cans? I know full is 5.3ish gallons and most are recommending full as better than partially full. Am I good to go with just 5 gal or is that leaving too much headspace? Especially since its winter now and the fuel will expand by summer. Thanks! Any metal ones I store on pink rigid foam insulation. If it's humid, maybe prime the bottoms. |
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Posted: 1/12/2014 11:22:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By die-tryin:
I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By die-tryin:
Originally Posted By number9XD:
Seems I've read not to store these cans on a concrete floor? How do you guys store yours off the floor? Mine will be in my shop - uninsulated, concrete floored pole barn. ... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. The cans will outlive you no matter where you store them, unless you're storing in a salt water bath.. Batteries on the floor is a myth, they'll be fine there too. |
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Posted: 1/13/2014 3:50:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By die-tryin:
I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By die-tryin:
Originally Posted By number9XD:
Seems I've read not to store these cans on a concrete floor? How do you guys store yours off the floor? Mine will be in my shop - uninsulated, concrete floored pole barn. ... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. Just keep in mind that concrete is porous and wet conditions outside will tend to make a concrete floor damp on the inside, especially in unheated spaces. Getting them just a little off the ground, especially if air can get in underneath, takes care of that. 1x3 lathe sleepers would do fine. |
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Posted: 1/13/2014 5:36:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
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The metal cans will most definitely rust on the bottom welded/rolled seams if left on a slightly damp concrete floor.
Tape a piece of Mylar film about a foot square onto the floor in your basement. Watch what condenses on the film after a couple days. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 8:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Any metal ones I store on pink rigid foam insulation. If it's humid, maybe prime the bottoms. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By njitmetal:
Is it ok to store just 5 gallons in 20 liter cans? I know full is 5.3ish gallons and most are recommending full as better than partially full. Am I good to go with just 5 gal or is that leaving too much headspace? Especially since its winter now and the fuel will expand by summer. Thanks! Any metal ones I store on pink rigid foam insulation. If it's humid, maybe prime the bottoms. I use rattle-can truck bed liner for the same. |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 10:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0:
Just keep in mind that concrete is porous and wet conditions outside will tend to make a concrete floor damp on the inside, especially in unheated spaces. Getting them just a little off the ground, especially if air can get in underneath, takes care of that. 1x3 lathe sleepers would do fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Originally Posted By number9XD:
Seems I've read not to store these cans on a concrete floor? How do you guys store yours off the floor? Mine will be in my shop - uninsulated, concrete floored pole barn. ... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. Just keep in mind that concrete is porous and wet conditions outside will tend to make a concrete floor damp on the inside, especially in unheated spaces. Getting them just a little off the ground, especially if air can get in underneath, takes care of that. 1x3 lathe sleepers would do fine. Thanks guys, I'll build a stand / platform to store them on up off the floor. ... |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 5:15:18 PM EDT
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I just lay down a couple 2X4's and set fuel cans on top of them...ammo cans as well.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2014 5:13:02 PM EDT
[#12]
What would you all suggest for taking spray paint off Scepter MFCs ? I'm waiting to receive a few that were painted yellow for JP8
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Posted: 2/11/2014 10:19:05 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
What would you all suggest for taking spray paint off Scepter MFCs ? I'm waiting to receive a few that were painted yellow for JP8 The paint may rub off pretty quick with regular use. IIRC Grove painted his with a special paint that was supposed to stick to plastic but the paint came off quick. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2014 2:14:49 PM EDT
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anyone know where I can get some of the wide mouth NATO jerry cans? the flip open style with gasket and cam lock? I bought some years ago from CTD and wish I could get a few more I don't care about spouts or really if the cans are new or used I just want the wide mouth style.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 3:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kkunz:
anyone know where I can get some of the wide mouth NATO jerry cans? the flip open style with gasket and cam lock? I bought some years ago from CTD and wish I could get a few more I don't care about spouts or really if the cans are new or used I just want the wide mouth style. I got mine from a guy on ebay but that was a couple years ago. you might try looking there. I did a directdeal for 10 and he cut me a break on price. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2014 2:09:11 PM EDT
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Well I made it through 33 pages of the fuel can oracle and managed to pick up 8 of the new NATO cans.
I came across an old USGI can on craigslist. Hard to tell from the pics, but does this look like a large mouth water can, or a standard fuel can? 
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Posted: 2/26/2014 2:23:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixtyfive:
Well I made it through 33 pages of the fuel can oracle and managed to pick up 8 of the new NATO cans. I came across an old USGI can on craigslist. Hard to tell from the pics, but does this look like a large mouth water can, or a standard fuel can? http://images.craigslist.org/01414_e7Uu04AkXaa_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/00101_evdF6KQAKs6_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/00909_4FfIan3kVGX_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/01414_bYzZIU0LijY_600x450.jpg That is an old USGI water can. Metal USGI fuel cans have screw caps. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 6:51:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zlman:
The cans will outlive you no matter where you store them, unless you're storing in a salt water bath.. Batteries on the floor is a myth, they'll be fine there too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zlman:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Originally Posted By number9XD:
Seems I've read not to store these cans on a concrete floor? How do you guys store yours off the floor? Mine will be in my shop - uninsulated, concrete floored pole barn. ... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think your talking about Batteries. Ive never heard of storing on concrete, unless your area has high moisture content and you could rust the bottom. The cans will outlive you no matter where you store them, unless you're storing in a salt water bath.. Batteries on the floor is a myth, they'll be fine there too. I've seen WWII jerry cans dug out of the ground of Eastern Europe that were ugly but usable. Can't image that they won't outlast anyone on this forum in anything like normal usage. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2014 7:45:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
That is an old USGI water can. Metal USGI fuel cans have screw caps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By sixtyfive:
Well I made it through 33 pages of the fuel can oracle and managed to pick up 8 of the new NATO cans. I came across an old USGI can on craigslist. Hard to tell from the pics, but does this look like a large mouth water can, or a standard fuel can? http://images.craigslist.org/01414_e7Uu04AkXaa_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/00101_evdF6KQAKs6_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/00909_4FfIan3kVGX_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/01414_bYzZIU0LijY_600x450.jpg That is an old USGI water can. Metal USGI fuel cans have screw caps. yeah, his looked pretty good! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2014 8:38:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: di1uted]
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Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 8:51:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? You might. Take a look at the gaskets. I have a few MFCs that were used with av fuel and they appeared to have rubber gaskets and not viton gaskets. I switched them out for viton. Whenever I have chanced it and used the rubber gaskets with regular gas they end up shrinking just a little and cracking my flanges. It doesn't happen right away but I think it is cheaper to change out the gaskets then to buy flanges down the road. There are aftermarket viton that are dark like the rubber gaskets, but the OEM viton gaskets are sort of a lighter grey color. Once you see one they are easy to spot. Do you plan on taking the paint/markings off those cans? Just curious. |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 9:09:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? Like LE6920 said, if you have rubber gaskets and pit gas in your MFCs, it likely crack the flanges off of your lids. They'll probably end up looking like a bunch of my new MFCs did when I didn't heed everyone's warnings. 
The flanges are replaceable, but it's better not to break them.LOL You can source viton gaskets from arfcom board member Vatopa. I pm'ed him and he hooked me right up. |
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Posted: 3/4/2014 9:59:39 PM EDT
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European NATO Jerry cans
20 liter $34.99 http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-20-liter-5-28-gallon-pm-mcan20l.html 10 liter $32.99 http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-10-liter-2-64-gallon-pm-mcan10l.html 5 liter $29.99 http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-5-liter-1-32-gallon-pm-mcan5l.html Spout $13.99 http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-jerry-can-spout-pm-mcanspout.html |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2014 9:27:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LE6920:
You might. Take a look at the gaskets. I have a few MFCs that were used with av fuel and they appeared to have rubber gaskets and not viton gaskets. I switched them out for viton. Whenever I have chanced it and used the rubber gaskets with regular gas they end up shrinking just a little and cracking my flanges. It doesn't happen right away but I think it is cheaper to change out the gaskets then to buy flanges down the road. There are aftermarket viton that are dark like the rubber gaskets, but the OEM viton gaskets are sort of a lighter grey color. Once you see one they are easy to spot. Do you plan on taking the paint/markings off those cans? Just curious. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LE6920:
Originally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? You might. Take a look at the gaskets. I have a few MFCs that were used with av fuel and they appeared to have rubber gaskets and not viton gaskets. I switched them out for viton. Whenever I have chanced it and used the rubber gaskets with regular gas they end up shrinking just a little and cracking my flanges. It doesn't happen right away but I think it is cheaper to change out the gaskets then to buy flanges down the road. There are aftermarket viton that are dark like the rubber gaskets, but the OEM viton gaskets are sort of a lighter grey color. Once you see one they are easy to spot. Do you plan on taking the paint/markings off those cans? Just curious. I'd like to take it off just haven't figured out how I'm going to do it without being abrasive to the cans |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 1:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? Put one of the gaskets in a jar with gas and see if it swells in a day or 2. If so, them DON'T use them for gas and order Viton. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 1:29:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
I'd like to take it off just haven't figured out how I'm going to do it without being abrasive to the cans Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
Originally Posted By LE6920:
Originally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? You might. Take a look at the gaskets. I have a few MFCs that were used with av fuel and they appeared to have rubber gaskets and not viton gaskets. I switched them out for viton. Whenever I have chanced it and used the rubber gaskets with regular gas they end up shrinking just a little and cracking my flanges. It doesn't happen right away but I think it is cheaper to change out the gaskets then to buy flanges down the road. There are aftermarket viton that are dark like the rubber gaskets, but the OEM viton gaskets are sort of a lighter grey color. Once you see one they are easy to spot. Do you plan on taking the paint/markings off those cans? Just curious. I'd like to take it off just haven't figured out how I'm going to do it without being abrasive to the cans Just use paint stripper, not the envirowacky type. Gasoline might work too, as well as brake cleaner with trichloroethylene or whatever in it, not the watered down stuff. You want the stripper with methylene chloride somethingorother in it, Home Depot or any paint store. Test some on a small area of the can first to make sure it doesn't attack the plastic.. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Put one of the gaskets in a jar with gas and see if it swells in a day or 2. If so, them DON'T use them for gas and order Viton. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? Put one of the gaskets in a jar with gas and see if it swells in a day or 2. If so, them DON'T use them for gas and order Viton. This will work, but you have 2 indicators that you probably need to change the gaskets. 1. the tan MFC are diesel cans. The military uses way more diesel than mogas these days. 2. JP8 is kerosene based, so it only needs the same gaskets as for diesel. Personally, for the cost, I would change them out to viton anyway. As others mentioned I got them cheap from a member here named vatopa. Also, if you get the large diesel spouts, you need to change out the rubber "O" ring for a viton one as well. This is my O-ring after using is a couple of times with gas: (cracked all to hell) 
and the spout with a viton O-ring from vatopa: 
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:09:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
I'd like to take it off just haven't figured out how I'm going to do it without being abrasive to the cans Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di1uted:
Originally Posted By LE6920:
Originally Posted By di1uted:
http://i.imgur.com/1J7qIe9h.jpg Will I run into any issues with the gaskets since they were once used for JP8 and now I plan on using them for gasoline? You might. Take a look at the gaskets. I have a few MFCs that were used with av fuel and they appeared to have rubber gaskets and not viton gaskets. I switched them out for viton. Whenever I have chanced it and used the rubber gaskets with regular gas they end up shrinking just a little and cracking my flanges. It doesn't happen right away but I think it is cheaper to change out the gaskets then to buy flanges down the road. There are aftermarket viton that are dark like the rubber gaskets, but the OEM viton gaskets are sort of a lighter grey color. Once you see one they are easy to spot. Do you plan on taking the paint/markings off those cans? Just curious. I'd like to take it off just haven't figured out how I'm going to do it without being abrasive to the cans I would either go to a carwash and hit them with a high pressure hose, or use a power washer at home. As you can see, the paint does not stick very well to the plastic. Gasoline would probably work as well and would not mar or damage the cans. Since I store gas, diesel and kerosene, I had a surplus store print me up some dogtags. On the back of the dogtag, I put a stripe of white medical tape (cloth) and write the date I filled the can: 
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Posted: 3/6/2014 11:22:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JimE2]
[#29]
Don't know if anyone noticed, but Atlantic British Ltd. AKA Roverparts.com has a "sale" going on for their green NATO cans.
Edit: Link for one $35.95 |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2014 9:49:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimE2:
Don't know if anyone noticed, but Atlantic British Ltd. AKA Roverparts.com has a "sale" going on for their green NATO cans. Edit: Link for one $35.95 It's showing up $44.95 today. I must have just missed it 
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Posted: 3/7/2014 11:05:38 AM EDT
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Whoa! I guess I'm lucky, and got in on the tail end of that sale.
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Posted: 3/18/2014 8:29:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimE2: Don't know if anyone noticed, but Atlantic British Ltd. AKA Roverparts.com has a "sale" going on for their green NATO cans. Edit: Link for one $35.95 Shows $37.95 right now.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2014 9:15:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grimhollow:
Shows $37.95 right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grimhollow:
Originally Posted By JimE2:
Don't know if anyone noticed, but Atlantic British Ltd. AKA Roverparts.com has a "sale" going on for their green NATO cans. Edit: Link for one $35.95 Shows $37.95 right now. I didn't let it get away this time... Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/23/2014 12:23:24 AM EDT
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better deal on the 4 cans though.
4 cans shipped for 44.54 each. 52.89 for just one can shipped. I am gonna get four more. |
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Posted: 3/24/2014 8:28:11 PM EDT
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from another thread, are these legit?
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-20-liter-5-28-gallon-pm-mcan20l.html |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2014 10:02:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CNZ302]
[#36]
Is there something wrong with the ebay ones? Specifically these?
ebay link to jerry cans - set of 4 Also, would I need to add gaskets myself or do they come with? I will probably pick some up as spares either way but I need to know how many to get. |
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Posted: 3/25/2014 9:20:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CNZ302:
Is there something wrong with the ebay ones? Specifically these? ebay link to jerry cans - set of 4 Also, would I need to add gaskets myself or do they come with? I will probably pick some up as spares either way but I need to know how many to get. Yes, I am sure its mentioned in this thread at least once. Unless you can verify where they are made, usually, when the listing says "Military Style" - it means "Made in China" People have reported the Chinese made knock-offs have cheap, weak welds, metal can be thin and the interior of the cans may not be lined. Some have said they work fine.... at least they did when they got them, I don't remember seeing any reports how they hold up after using them for a year. a roll of the dice, so to speak. ETA: If you scroll through his negative feedback, someone mentioned (page 2) that 3 of the cans were rusted inside.... guess these are not lined. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2014 7:04:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CNZ302]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Yes, I am sure its mentioned in this thread at least once. Unless you can verify where they are made, usually, when the listing says "Military Style" - it means "Made in China" People have reported the Chinese made knock-offs have cheap, weak welds, metal can be thin and the interior of the cans may not be lined. Some have said they work fine.... at least they did when they got them, I don't remember seeing any reports how they hold up after using them for a year. a roll of the dice, so to speak. ETA: If you scroll through his negative feedback, someone mentioned (page 2) that 3 of the cans were rusted inside.... guess these are not lined. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By CNZ302:
Is there something wrong with the ebay ones? Specifically these? ebay link to jerry cans - set of 4 Also, would I need to add gaskets myself or do they come with? I will probably pick some up as spares either way but I need to know how many to get. Yes, I am sure its mentioned in this thread at least once. Unless you can verify where they are made, usually, when the listing says "Military Style" - it means "Made in China" People have reported the Chinese made knock-offs have cheap, weak welds, metal can be thin and the interior of the cans may not be lined. Some have said they work fine.... at least they did when they got them, I don't remember seeing any reports how they hold up after using them for a year. a roll of the dice, so to speak. ETA: If you scroll through his negative feedback, someone mentioned (page 2) that 3 of the cans were rusted inside.... guess these are not lined. Thanks. I guess I'll get them at deutscheoptik.com. I didn't get read this while thread yet. 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2014 7:05:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CNZ302]
[#39]
Fail...tried to edit and accidentally quoted...
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2014 1:46:48 PM EDT
[#40]
The Atlantic British sale on the jerry cans is not as good of a deal as the free shipping they sometimes offer. Just something to think about if you're thinking about buying. I got mine last year during their free shipping July 4th sale. I'm hoping they have it again this year. I love the 20 and 10 liter cans I have now.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2014 5:41:52 PM EDT
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I noticed that it seems every person that sells the new Jerry cans that are green says it is against federal law to carry gas in them. The main reason I'm getting these cans are to extend my range in case of a natural disaster or bug out and I'll have fuel in them all the time.
Will I have any issues if a cop sees them in my truck? |
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Posted: 3/26/2014 9:22:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wshbrngr]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CNZ302:
I noticed that it seems every person that sells the new Jerry cans that are green says it is against federal law to carry gas in them. The main reason I'm getting these cans are to extend my range in case of a natural disaster or bug out and I'll have fuel in them all the time. Will I have any issues if a cop sees them in my truck? I doubt it. The regulations state that in order to manufacture and sell gas cans in the U.S. they have to meet certain standards. Since those cans do not meet the standards (i.e. CARB compliant) they cannot be sold as gas cans. ETA: The jerry cans themselves are NOT the problem. The problem is that the spouts are not self-sealing, meaning, they do not close automatically when not in use. The whole issue with these cans from the .gov perspective, is if you leave them stting with the spout on, the fuel will evaporate. Blitz (before they were forced out of business) was able to continue selling their metal jerry type cans because they included a CARB approved self sealing nozzle. Which was easily replaced. Unfortunately, Blitz succumbed to lawsuit abuse. 
Short answer is.... their statement is a CYA. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2014 1:54:37 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
I doubt it. The regulations state that in order to manufacture and sell gas cans in the U.S. they have to meet certain standards. Since those cans do not meet the standards (i.e. CARB compliant) they cannot be sold as gas cans. ETA: The jerry cans themselves are NOT the problem. The problem is that the spouts are not self-sealing, meaning, they do not close automatically when not in use. The whole issue with these cans from the .gov perspective, is if you leave them stting with the spout on, the fuel will evaporate. Blitz (before they were forced out of business) was able to continue selling their metal jerry type cans because they included a CARB approved self sealing nozzle. Which was easily replaced. Unfortunately, Blitz succumbed to lawsuit abuse.
Short answer is.... their statement is a CYA. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wshbrngr:
Originally Posted By CNZ302:
I noticed that it seems every person that sells the new Jerry cans that are green says it is against federal law to carry gas in them. The main reason I'm getting these cans are to extend my range in case of a natural disaster or bug out and I'll have fuel in them all the time. Will I have any issues if a cop sees them in my truck? I doubt it. The regulations state that in order to manufacture and sell gas cans in the U.S. they have to meet certain standards. Since those cans do not meet the standards (i.e. CARB compliant) they cannot be sold as gas cans. ETA: The jerry cans themselves are NOT the problem. The problem is that the spouts are not self-sealing, meaning, they do not close automatically when not in use. The whole issue with these cans from the .gov perspective, is if you leave them stting with the spout on, the fuel will evaporate. Blitz (before they were forced out of business) was able to continue selling their metal jerry type cans because they included a CARB approved self sealing nozzle. Which was easily replaced. Unfortunately, Blitz succumbed to lawsuit abuse.
Short answer is.... their statement is a CYA. Thanks for all the info. I'm going to order the set of four from roverparts.com. Still cheaper with shipping than DO. |
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Posted: 3/31/2014 12:37:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Gunwritr]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By James16688:
from another thread, are these legit? http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-20-liter-5-28-gallon-pm-mcan20l.html Yes.........brand new European manufactured NATO Jerry cans $34.99 with free shipping on orders over $99 beat that.......... |
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Posted: 4/4/2014 1:47:51 PM EDT
[#45]
Do the red Wavian cans use the same spouts as green NATO cans? I don't want to get into different attachment systems.
Thanks. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/4/2014 8:20:57 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunwritr:
Yes.........brand new European manufactured NATO Jerry cans $34.99 with free shipping on orders over $99 beat that.......... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunwritr:
Originally Posted By James16688:
from another thread, are these legit? http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-20-liter-5-28-gallon-pm-mcan20l.html Yes.........brand new European manufactured NATO Jerry cans $34.99 with free shipping on orders over $99 beat that.......... Has anyone stored gas in these yet? I ordered 4 on them. They are VERY well made and durable .Mine has a sticker that says "made in Poland". My older NATO cans have an enamel coating inside. The new cans seem to have paint on the inside. Will this stand up to gas long term? |
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Posted: 4/4/2014 8:26:06 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaschanks:
Has anyone stored gas in these yet? I ordered 4 on them. They are VERY well made and durable .Mine has a sticker that says "made in Poland". My older NATO cans have an enamel coating inside. The new cans seem to have paint on the inside. Will this stand up to gas long term? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaschanks:
Originally Posted By Gunwritr:
Originally Posted By James16688:
from another thread, are these legit? http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-20-liter-5-28-gallon-pm-mcan20l.html Yes.........brand new European manufactured NATO Jerry cans $34.99 with free shipping on orders over $99 beat that.......... Has anyone stored gas in these yet? I ordered 4 on them. They are VERY well made and durable .Mine has a sticker that says "made in Poland". My older NATO cans have an enamel coating inside. The new cans seem to have paint on the inside. Will this stand up to gas long term? Ive been storing gas in mine for atleast 5 years or more. I fill with fuel and then add ethanol treatment and date them, i recycle the gas each year. Ive never had a problem with the gas, can or seals. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:03:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blackoperations]
[#48]
Forgive me if this has already has been asked....
QUESTION: How much fuel can a "citizen" normally/legally "transport" (in vehicle or trailer) without issue? Scenario is, filling up multiple (like 10-20) five gallon ("D.O.T. Approved") fuel containers and transporting them from a fuel station to home (non-commercial) property. What say you? As always, thanks ahead of time 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:55:59 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By die-tryin: Ive been storing gas in mine for atleast 5 years or more. I fill with fuel and then add ethanol treatment and date them, i recycle the gas each year. Ive never had a problem with the gas, can or seals. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By die-tryin: Originally Posted By jaschanks: Originally Posted By Gunwritr: Originally Posted By James16688: from another thread, are these legit? http://www.jeep4x4center.com/nato-metal-jerry-can-20-liter-5-28-gallon-pm-mcan20l.html Yes.........brand new European manufactured NATO Jerry cans $34.99 with free shipping on orders over $99 beat that.......... Has anyone stored gas in these yet? I ordered 4 on them. They are VERY well made and durable .Mine has a sticker that says "made in Poland". My older NATO cans have an enamel coating inside. The new cans seem to have paint on the inside. Will this stand up to gas long term? Ive been storing gas in mine for atleast 5 years or more. I fill with fuel and then add ethanol treatment and date them, i recycle the gas each year. Ive never had a problem with the gas, can or seals. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2014 6:13:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Call me crazy but I want red gas cans.
Ordered 4 of the 20L from Lexington along with two spouts today. Sadly they are out of the 5L tiny cans but the website says should be back in stock the end of May. I have two MFC's which have been filled for the past 2 years without any problems or leaks but they do swell. This led to a problem getting them out of their storage shelf which is why I am going to try the metal cans. Also the Jerry cans don't require a wrench to get them sufficiently tight or to remove the lid. I will post when they arrive. |
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