OFFICIAL 6.5 CREEDMOOR PRECISION LOAD RECIPE THREAD (Page 2 of 5)
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So just got a semi 6.5cm with a 22" barrel. I've decided to go striaght into reloading with this rifle. Went to pick up some h4350, but couldn't find any so ended up grabbing Hodgson Hornady superperformance. Is this any good? Was planning on working some loads for 120s and 140 using Hornady bullets. Seems like 140 are the preferred though. |
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Originally Posted By anthony20031:
So just got a semi 6.5cm with a 22" barrel. I've decided to go striaght into reloading with this rifle. Went to pick up some h4350, but couldn't find any so ended up grabbing Hodgson Hornady superperformance. Is this any good? Was planning on working some loads for 120s and 140 using Hornady bullets. Seems like 140 are the preferred though. |
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Originally Posted By anthony20031:
So just got a semi 6.5cm with a 22" barrel. I've decided to go striaght into reloading with this rifle. Went to pick up some h4350, but couldn't find any so ended up grabbing Hodgson Hornady superperformance. Is this any good? Was planning on working some loads for 120s and 140 using Hornady bullets. Seems like 140 are the preferred though. |
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147gr ELD-M (G7 of 0.351!!!)
42.3gr Reloder 16 (Found a flat spot with the RL 16 42.1 and 42.5gr) CCI 200 LR Hornady Brass, 0.288" neck bushing 2.35" CBTO (basically loading just under max length for an AICS Accurate Mag) 2710 fps out of a 24" stock Tikka T3x CTR barrel. 7fps SD with 17fps ES. I loaded these rounds at the range, and there was an ever so slight breeze on the scale. I imagine loading them at home would tighten up the ES. 
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Originally Posted By Little_Bird:
147gr ELD-M (G7 of 0.351!!!) 42.3gr Reloder 16 (Found a flat spot with the RL 16 42.1 and 42.5gr) CCI 200 LR Hornady Brass, 0.288" neck bushing 2.35" CBTO (basically loading just under max length for an AICS Accurate Mag) 2710 fps out of a 24" stock Tikka T3x CTR barrel. 7fps SD with 17fps ES. I loaded these rounds at the range, and there was an ever so slight breeze on the scale. I imagine loading them at home would tighten up the ES. http://i.imgur.com/UC9NX5B.jpg I found 200 147gr ELD-M at Cabelas today, gonna load up about 30 or 40 and test them in my two creedmoor rifles tomorrow. |
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Originally Posted By Little_Bird:
147gr ELD-M (G7 of 0.351!!!) 42.3gr Reloder 16 (Found a flat spot with the RL 16 42.1 and 42.5gr) CCI 200 LR Hornady Brass, 0.288" neck bushing 2.35" CBTO (basically loading just under max length for an AICS Accurate Mag) 2710 fps out of a 24" stock Tikka T3x CTR barrel. 7fps SD with 17fps ES. I loaded these rounds at the range, and there was an ever so slight breeze on the scale. I imagine loading them at home would tighten up the ES. http://i.imgur.com/UC9NX5B.jpg New hornady brass, CCI benchrest primers. Heres a pic of the best target for the day, along with chronograph data. Attached File Attached File |
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1:8 savage 10fcp-SR box mag. 1 week old. approx 25rnds down the pipe.
Hnady 130gr ELD-M38.0gr Varget2.800 OAL2750 fps consistant good groups. should get me to 1200 just fine and wont wear out the barrel like 2900fps will. just used what i saw here and what i had on hand. thx guys! going to 1000yd range this weekend. |
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1:8 savage 10fcp-SR box mag. 1 week old. approx 25rnds down the pipe.
Hnady 130gr ELD-M 38.0gr Varget 2.800 OAL 2750 fps consistant CCI BR2 Hornady brass. good groups 1" to sub moa 3 shots. im a 223 shooter so this i gotta adjust into for recoil. should get me to 1200yds just fine and wont wear out the barrel like 2900fps will. just used what i saw here and what i had on hand. thx guys! going to 1000yd range this weekend. EDIT: approx 29.5-30moa to 1k with this load. little wid drift...maybe 3moa tops on half value flag. really liking this load. can hit or get close to clays at 1050yds. |
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Anyone ever try Norma's 130 grain Golden Target 6.5 bullets?
OAL" 2.835" seated to jmp .010" in my 6.5 CM Bergara - 22" barrel. Best accuarcy first day out using Lapua brass, CCI-450 primers and H4350 was found between 40.5 and 41.5 grains of powder. 41.0 pruduced a 5/8" five round group @ 100 yards in my rifle. |
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Tried RE16 with some new brass and bullets.
Brass: Peterson 6.5 CM w/ LR primer pocket (neck sized with 0.288" Redding Type-S bushing) Powder: Reloder 16 Charge: 43.4gr Bullet: 130gr Berger AR Hybrid Velocity: 2910 avg (SD of 8 fps over 10 shots) CBTO: 2.257" Jump: lol idk Groups into nice little 0.5 MOA holes out of my 24" Tikka T3x. I noticed that the Peterson brass has less capacity than the Hornady brass I was used to. My 42.3gr charge for 147gr ELD-Ms disappears below the neck in Hornady brass, while that same charge in the Peterson brass actually comes up into the neck. Vibrating the brass with a small Oral-B toothbrush works well enough to settle the 43.4gr charge low enough so that I'm not crunching powder with the 130s. Sits right about level with the base of the neck. |
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Originally Posted By Little_Bird:
Tried RE16 with some new brass and bullets. Brass: Peterson 6.5 CM w/ LR primer pocket (neck sized with 0.288" Redding Type-S bushing) Powder: Reloder 16 Charge: 43.4gr Bullet: 130gr Berger AR Hybrid Velocity: 2910 avg (SD of 8 fps over 10 shots) CBTO: 2.257" Jump: lol idk Groups into nice little 0.5 MOA holes out of my 24" Tikka T3x. I noticed that the Peterson brass has less capacity than the Hornady brass I was used to. My 42.3gr charge for 147gr ELD-Ms disappears below the neck in Hornady brass, while that same charge in the Peterson brass actually comes up into the neck. Vibrating the brass with a small Oral-B toothbrush works well enough to settle the 43.4gr charge low enough so that I'm not crunching powder with the 130s. Sits right about level with the base of the neck. |
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Ok while making brass for reloading (shooting) I picked up the following supplies:
Rifle is Howa HCR 24" 1-8 Brass: Hornady Powder: H4350 Primer: CCI BR2 Bullet: Hornady 140gr ELD-M From what I have been seeing those components are the most used. Except maybe for the brass. I'm not into max velocity but small groups. I will be neck sizing. New to this type of reloading and looking for a starting load and a suggested increment size for working up data. I have the Hornady book. It looks like 40gr would be a good starting point? |
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I'm probably the last one here that knows this. A search on "6.5 Creedmoor load data" turns up a link to Sierra's latest load sheets which include Reloder 16 data.
The 65Creedmoor site has a link in its reloading section for Alliant's latest load data with Reloder 16. That is the only place I have seen that data sheet, for some reason Alliant doesn't have it linked from their web site, or it's well hidden. Both files are pdf format. The search will also turn up the 2009 article in American Rifleman. |
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147 ELD-M
45.3gr Reloder 26 Lapua Brass, twice fired, 0.002" shoulder bumped, and collet neck sized CCI 450 SRM 2.87" COAL for 0.020" jump 2755 fps from a 24" factory barrel Savage 10BA Stealth. First target was shot with Magnetospeed. The low flyer was my cold bore shot, and the other four went into one hole. The four shots after the cold bore had an ES of 5, and an SD of 2 fps. Second target was five rounds without the Magnetospeed, and I pulled one of them. I fired two more 5-shot groups with that load, but both of them had some horizontal stringing that I'm pretty sure was me. They looked under 1/2 MOA in the vertical through my scope, but I didn't stick around for another cease fire to measure them. I had also shot five rounds of this recipe over the chrono yesterday, and got an SD of 6. The group on paper was the same story; tight vertical, ~1 MOA horizontal. The extra magnification of my new 6-30x56 scope has revealed to me that my shooting from a Harris bipod and rear squeeze bag is not as stable as I had thought. I can clearly see my POA dancing left and right now. I think I have my rifle and ammo dialed in, so hopefully now I can make progress on improving my marksmanship. 
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Anyone gathered a lot of chrono data with 4451 and either 130 Bergers or 140 Bergers?
ive got plenty of Reloder 16 but considering giving IMR4451 another pass but have heard the SDs were high.. is there any validity to this compared to H4350 or RE16? |
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"Anyone gathered a lot of chrono data with 4451 and either 130 Bergers or 140 Bergers?"
I load both the Berger Hybrid AR and VLD hunting for two of my rifles with the same charge of 42.5 grains of 4451. Im getting 2760 FPS wityh the VLD Hunters out of a 24" barreled Bergara BMP and 2650 FPS with the AR Hybrids out of an 18" barreled AR 10. These were the results in my rifles so work up slowly! |
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Originally Posted By Crazyhorse26:
"Anyone gathered a lot of chrono data with 4451 and either 130 Bergers or 140 Bergers?" I load both the Berger Hybrid AR and VLD hunting for two of my rifles with the same charge of 42.5 grains of 4451. Im getting 2760 FPS wityh the VLD Hunters out of a 24" barreled Bergara BMP and 2650 FPS with the AR Hybrids out of an 18" barreled AR 10. These were the results in my rifles so work up slowly! |
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Originally Posted By md7989:
143 ELD-X 41.8 gr H4350 CCI 200 Hornady Brass 2.214" to ogive (0.020" off) 2755 fps out of 26" 6.5 Creedmoor Criterion on a 42 degree day 0.3" 5 shot groups, and even shot a 3 shot group with all 3 in one hole |
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147 gr ELD
45 gr H4831sc C.O.L 2.805 0.4 MOA 2625 fps ES 3-12 (depending on reloading technique) Aero Precision M5E1 6.5 CM 20" Ballistic Advantage I have shot this load several times at 1000 yards. Groups have been right at 6" or less if it's not too windy ( I suck at reading wind) |
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130gr Berger AR Hybrid
42gr H4350 CCI BR4 small rifle primer Lapua Brass COAL 2.80 ~2778 fps out of 24" Bartlein (and small amount faster with can) I could probably go a bit higher velocity, but it is so accurate that I prefer this load. |
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Originally Posted By M4-AR:
So far my favorite loads Hornady 140eld-m RL-17 39.4 Hornady AG fired brass https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38811/84ECCDFC-F43F-44D8-87C6-55B319F1686C-398822.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38811/2D4F661C-A535-4723-9EA2-5C4180AD73AF-398824.jpg Same specs as above RL 41.2 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38811/56D1B62F-639D-4B13-A6D4-A2942DFF3EE9-392678.jpg 41.5gr RL17 2.900" OAL Starline brass FGMM primers Not getting the amazing results you are getting, but sub MOA if I do my part. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
31.5moa to 1050yds. cold bore busted a clay with: 130gr ELD 38GR VARGET BR-2 Hornady brass oal 2.802 ish last velocity check was 2750fps savage 10 6.5cm 
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Originally Posted By Vandy58:
I see a couple of people have used the 140 eldm, I assume with H4350 it can make an accurate round? 
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Originally Posted By Vandy58:
I know this is slightly off topic but since creedmore dies are like a unicorn, I have been using factory ammo. The Hornady Black 140 BTHP gave me less than 1 moa at 100 yards. |
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Originally Posted By Vandy58:
I know this is slightly off topic but since creedmore dies are like a unicorn, I have been using factory ammo. The Hornady Black 140 BTHP gave me less than 1 moa at 100 yards. https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=creedmoor+dies&userItemsPerPage=48 The Hornady factory ammo has been doing great for me in matches since 2008. |
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
Unicorn? Not sure where you are looking but they are all over the place. https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=creedmoor+dies&userItemsPerPage=48 The Hornady factory ammo has been doing great for me in matches since 2008. Originally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By Vandy58:
I know this is slightly off topic but since creedmore dies are like a unicorn, I have been using factory ammo. The Hornady Black 140 BTHP gave me less than 1 moa at 100 yards. https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=creedmoor+dies&userItemsPerPage=48 The Hornady factory ammo has been doing great for me in matches since 2008. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Anyone have a decent duplicate of the FGMM 130 Berger load w/ H4350? I have one that's close. 42.5 H4350 Fed 210M Hornady brass 2.789 COAL It could be made a little hotter, but I worked it up for my gas gun. It's running ~2,750fps out of a 22" gas gun (Krieger barrel). Very accurate. |
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24" MPA 6.5BA
42.2 h4350 Hornady brass, 3xfired Fed 210m primer 140 Berger hybrid match .022" off the lands (2.892 COAL) 42.4 isn't bad either. Started seeing pressure signs at 42.6 and stiff bolt at 42.8. |
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Originally Posted By avvidclif:
Ok while making brass for reloading (shooting) I picked up the following supplies: Rifle is Howa HCR 24" 1-8 Brass: Hornady Powder: H4350 Primer: CCI BR2 Bullet: Hornady 140gr ELD-M From what I have been seeing those components are the most used. Except maybe for the brass. I'm not into max velocity but small groups. I will be neck sizing. New to this type of reloading and looking for a starting load and a suggested increment size for working up data. I have the Hornady book. It looks like 40gr would be a good starting point?  Untitled by Adam C, on Flickr" />
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