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Link Posted: 4/21/2022 9:51:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: viralinsurgency] [#1]
Double Tap
Link Posted: 4/21/2022 9:53:12 PM EST
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Still hacking phlegm and under the weather.  It will be a week tomorrow.

Wife is pretty much back to normal aside from an occasional cough.
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 12:14:11 AM EST
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The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
r. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, says the United States is "certainly" past the pandemic stage of fighting the coronavirus, though he acknowledges it continues in other countries around the world.

"We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase," he told PBS NewsHour host Judy Woodruff on Tuesday. "We don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now. So, if you're saying, are we out of the pandemic phase in this country, we are."

Fauci, also President Biden's chief medical adviser, also said the U.S. was "not going to eradicate this virus" entirely and that the government should continue a practice of "intermittently vaccinat(ing) people."

Many Americans, he said, may have to get vaccinated annually for an unclear period of time in an effort to reduce the number of infections.

"That might be every year, that might be longer, in order to keep that level low. But, right now, we are not in the pandemic phase in this country," he said.
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Link Posted: 4/28/2022 1:37:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
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I believe most Americans and people worldwide of even average intelligence don't give a rats' ass what the little troll says, one way or another.  They're just hoping he suffers for his crimes, if they waste any time thinking about him at all.
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 8:47:50 PM EST
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I believe most Americans and people worldwide of even average intelligence don't give a rats' ass what the little troll says, one way or another.  They're just hoping he suffers for his crimes, if they waste any time thinking about him at all.
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Originally Posted By viralinsurgency:
Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19


I believe most Americans and people worldwide of even average intelligence don't give a rats' ass what the little troll says, one way or another.  They're just hoping he suffers for his crimes, if they waste any time thinking about him at all.
The only thing beyond that is, IMO, that other schmucks in the government listen to the rotten goblin.
Link Posted: 4/29/2022 1:25:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
r. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, says the United States is "certainly" past the pandemic stage of fighting the coronavirus, though he acknowledges it continues in other countries around the world.

"We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase," he told PBS NewsHour host Judy Woodruff on Tuesday. "We don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now. So, if you're saying, are we out of the pandemic phase in this country, we are."

Fauci, also President Biden's chief medical adviser, also said the U.S. was "not going to eradicate this virus" entirely and that the government should continue a practice of "intermittently vaccinat(ing) people."

Many Americans, he said, may have to get vaccinated annually for an unclear period of time in an effort to reduce the number of infections.

"That might be every year, that might be longer, in order to keep that level low. But, right now, we are not in the pandemic phase in this country," he said.


Wait.  Hold up.  Don't go misinterpreting that.

Fauci walks back claim that US is 'out of the pandemic phase'.
Link Posted: 4/29/2022 11:08:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JPN:


Wait.  Hold up.  Don't go misinterpreting that.

Fauci walks back claim that US is 'out of the pandemic phase'.
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Not surprising since the crazies like @DrEricDing were freaking out about that

Link Posted: 5/6/2022 5:10:41 PM EST
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He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights











Link Posted: 5/6/2022 5:35:16 PM EST
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He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900







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I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 6:06:34 PM EST
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I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.
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Originally Posted By RSG:
He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900








I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.



Either the chinese govt is culling the political dissidents ( again ) or something very big has happened in china ( again ) and they aren't letting the world know, like maybe they let loose another completely different viral  weapon.

Tens of millions of people in china are locked down again ( like can't leave their apartments (again) yet the world continues international flights in and out of china just like last time.

China needs to be dealt with.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 9:20:19 PM EST
[#11]
@stampkolektor

Did you even begin to think we'd be here with this thread?
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 7:55:08 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/17/2022 8:39:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
Well, the rice rabies finally caught up to me. Probably picked it up grocery shopping. Chest is tight, dry cough, yesterday had a headache, and it felt like somebody beat my upper back with a stick. Feeling kind of drained. All in all, not so bad, so far. Blood-ox is holding upper 90s.

Started Ivermectin yesterday. Should I supplement with good Scotch?

Is it de rigueur to call the doc for advice or only if it get's worse?
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Seems to be a resurgence in my AO a well.  I wouldn't call the doctor unless it gets worse.  Fluids and cold meds seem to knock it out.
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 9:17:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/17/2022 9:41:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
Cool. That's my thought as well.

Roger that on the fluids and cold meds. I was worried about sleeping last night but a capful of NyQuil Severe and I slept like a baby.
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Seems to be a resurgence in my AO a well.  I wouldn't call the doctor unless it gets worse.  Fluids and cold meds seem to knock it out.
Cool. That's my thought as well.

Roger that on the fluids and cold meds. I was worried about sleeping last night but a capful of NyQuil Severe and I slept like a baby.

Nyquil tends to do that.  I am pounding allergy meds and I look like a zombie.  Damn grass pollen.
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 10:45:05 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/17/2022 11:52:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
I hear that. Pollen kicks my butt as well but I don't want to cover up my rona symptoms with claritin. If I can feel the nuances of where rona is taking me I can better tell if it's getting better or worse.
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Nyquil tends to do that.  I am pounding allergy meds and I look like a zombie.  Damn grass pollen.
I hear that. Pollen kicks my butt as well but I don't want to cover up my rona symptoms with claritin. If I can feel the nuances of where rona is taking me I can better tell if it's getting better or worse.

That makes sense.  It's the season where everyone is playing the game what is it.  Home test said I am negative and symptoms don't fit.  Just a pain when the whole office has the sniffles and everyone is on edge.  
Link Posted: 6/18/2022 11:19:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Originally Posted By RSG:
He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900








I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.


From what I’ve heard there is longer more stringent lockdown coming but how long it will be compared to the first is hard to say.
Link Posted: 6/18/2022 11:26:57 AM EST
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From what I’ve heard there is longer more stringent lockdown coming but how long it will be compared to the first is hard to say.
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Originally Posted By wgjhsafT:
Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Originally Posted By RSG:
He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900








I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.


From what I’ve heard there is longer more stringent lockdown coming but how long it will be compared to the first is hard to say.

It looks like he finally got out of lockdown but other areas are locked down. We will all get to watch as zero COVID keeps the CCP busy.
Link Posted: 6/20/2022 5:24:18 PM EST
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Anyone remember the reputable online pharmacies in India?  I need some Cloxacillin but don’t remember the names of the ones posted previously.
Link Posted: 6/21/2022 3:09:58 AM EST
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Anyone remember the reputable online pharmacies in India?  I need some Cloxacillin but don't remember the names of the ones posted previously.
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Sgp the .com

Link Posted: 6/28/2022 10:51:12 PM EST
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I'm just posting this here so I can look back at the plunge in birthrates later, hopefully when they rebound.

10% to 23% drop in births year-over-year
Link Posted: 7/4/2022 3:00:56 AM EST
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https://justthenews.com/government/congress/defunding-wuhan-congress-quietly-bans-federal-funds-labs-china-russia-and-iran

Defunding Wuhan: Congress quietly bans federal funds from (TO! - Flash) labs in China, Russia and Iran

Vote is latest action to acknowledge that theory that COVID-19 leaked from Wuhan research lab — once censored as preposterous and by news organizations, social media giants — is viable enough for government to vote with its pocketbook.
By John Solomon
Updated: July 2, 2022 - 4:26am

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While U.S. intelligence has been unable in two years to determine for sure if COVID-19 leaked from a Chinese lab, Congress has decided it no longer wants to take the risk of funding medical research at labs controlled by Beijing or other American adversaries.

With little fanfare and in bipartisan fashion, House appropriators quietly amended the 2023 federal budget for health and science agencies on Thursday to ban any funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which U.S. intelligence fears may have been the origin point for the coronavirus pandemic, and other labs like it.

"None of the funds made available by this Act may be made available to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, or any other laboratory located in a country determined by the Secretary of State to be a foreign adversary, including China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran," reads the amendment approved by the House Appropriations Committee.

You can read the amendment here:
File
HoueAppropsAmendments6-30-22.pdf

The vote is the latest official government action to acknowledge that the theory that COVID-19 leaked from the Wuhan research lab — once panned as preposterous and censored by news organizations and social media giants — is viable enough for the government to vote with its pocketbook.

After more than a year of ridicule, the lab leak theory was officially recognized by the Biden administration's intelligence apparatus as one of the two most viable explanations for the appearance of coronavirus, with the other being natural evolution.

The lab leak theory got even more credence last month when the World Health Organization, the United Nations body that first dismissed the lab leak theory, admitted there was "new evidence" supporting the theory that needed investigating.

WHO said on June 10 that  "key pieces of data" to explain how the pandemic began were still missing and that it must "remain open to any and all scientific evidence that becomes available in the future to allow for comprehensive testing of all reasonable hypotheses."

The announcement by WHO led House Republicans to cheer. "Americans were smeared as 'conspiracy theorists' for asking whether #COVID19 came from a lab leak," they tweeted. "Now, the WHO is asking the same questions."

The Appropriations Committee action on Thursday was praised by Rep. Lisa McClain (R-Mich.), a member of the House Education and Labor Committee who sponsored the amendment over national security concerns and the fact that many foreign labs conduct abusive experiments on animals.

"Our tax dollars should never go to countries that threaten our national security," she said. "We've seen how dangerous it is to fund research at the Wuhan Lab in China. I've been leading efforts to defund animal labs in China, Russia and other foreign adversaries and I'm proud that the House Appropriations Committee adopted an amendment supporting my efforts to prevent taxpayers' money from being sent to labs in these countries.”

Also applauding the action was the nonprofit group White Coat Waste Project, which earlier this year revealed that 32 animal labs in Russia and China were eligible to receive taxpayer dollars via the National Institutes of Health and that one in Russia was involved in a cruel experiment on cats.

"A majority of Americans agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay white coats in foreign labs to torture animals in dangerous and wasteful experiments," said the group's Senior Vice President Justin Goodman. "Having first exposed NIH funding for animal labs in China and Russia — including the notorious Wuhan Institute of Virology — we applaud Republicans and Democrats on the Appropriations Committee for their historic move to defund wasteful spending in dozens of animal testing labs run by our enemies."
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Three to five years too late.
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 10:21:54 AM EST
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Looks like fauci's "gain of function" efforts are working...the latest BA.5 variant evading nearly all antibodies - even from recent prior infection...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01730-y

Maybe after the next couple elections - if they are not fraudulently modified - the evil fauci and his despicable associates will be punished for crimes against humanity...
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 2:26:19 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/8/2022 2:57:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighDesert6920:
Looks like fauci's "gain of function" efforts are working...the latest BA.5 variant evading nearly all antibodies - even from recent prior infection...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01730-y

Maybe after the next couple elections - if they are not fraudulently modified - the evil fauci and his despicable associates will be punished for crimes against humanity...
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Another variant from Africa.  Seems to be an incubator these days...
Link Posted: 7/9/2022 8:40:40 PM EST
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China still hard at it.  At least we never produced pictures like this?


Link Posted: 7/10/2022 11:49:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighDesert6920:
Looks like fauci's "gain of function" efforts are working...the latest BA.5 variant evading nearly all antibodies - even from recent prior infection...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01730-y

Maybe after the next couple elections - if they are not fraudulently modified - the evil fauci and his despicable associates will be punished for crimes against humanity...
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I wonder how much of that is driven by so many people having a ... well whatever you want to call it .... for the original strain, thus providing a wide open field for these variants to go wild on.
Link Posted: 7/12/2022 11:58:43 AM EST
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@stampkolektor

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i honestly didnt know what this was gonna turn to.

i thought when China locks down an entire city, its time to pay attention. when they cancelled Lunar New Year, thats when i started telling fam (who dont prep) to prep.

but, no i didnt think this thread was going anywhere...

lol look now.
Link Posted: 7/12/2022 12:04:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By macro:
I'll tell you...Either we are all living in a parallel universe, or we are going to see a lot of folks get blindsided. I'm sitting in a pizza place grabbing a quick lunch....they have CNN on the TV. Wall to wall coverage of the impeachment hearings. Political analysis and nothing else. Not one second or one word about this virus.

A world power is shutting down their cities amid a public health crisis...potentially resulting from a bio weapon gone astray....potentially threatening the world.  CNNS priority. ..Trump.

These people really are fucking crazy
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this post (dated 1/24/2020) right here hits the nail on the head.

covid was already in CONUS and we still had no MSM mention on it.
Link Posted: 7/12/2022 3:57:07 PM EST
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this post (dated 1/24/2020) right here hits the nail on the head.

covid was already in CONUS and we still had no MSM mention on it.
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Originally Posted By macro:
I'll tell you...Either we are all living in a parallel universe, or we are going to see a lot of folks get blindsided. I'm sitting in a pizza place grabbing a quick lunch....they have CNN on the TV. Wall to wall coverage of the impeachment hearings. Political analysis and nothing else. Not one second or one word about this virus.

A world power is shutting down their cities amid a public health crisis...potentially resulting from a bio weapon gone astray....potentially threatening the world.  CNNS priority. ..Trump.

These people really are fucking crazy


this post (dated 1/24/2020) right here hits the nail on the head.

covid was already in CONUS and we still had no MSM mention on it.

COVID was created at UNC in 2015. COVID was already unleashed in the U.S. in early 2019, if not before that, and MSM never mentioned it. Forget Trump. We're on our own.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 1:04:44 AM EST
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Does anyone recall early on in this thread where Nipah showed up in some of the early china victims? There's a thread going in GD talking about Nipah being worked on at the wuhan lab, like it was new news, and I thought this thread broke that news like first 1-2 months into this mess.
Link Posted: 8/8/2022 10:51:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:39:45 PM EST
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This thread is still alive?

I remember posting when the first few cases were popping up in Wuhan then meticulously following every cruise ship around the world with infections to see where they had been and where they were going and spreading Covid.
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Well, 6 weeks since (your) last post in this thread. No mask and no vax requirements for international travel. Still see a few ultra true believers with masks daily, I think it is a combo security blanket and virtue signaller.

Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:43:57 PM EST
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Well, 6 weeks since (your) last post in this thread. No mask and no vax requirements for international travel. Still see a few ultra true believers with masks daily, I think it is a combo security blanket and virtue signaller.

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Originally Posted By MostlyPeaceful:
Originally Posted By MarkNH:
This thread is still alive?

I remember posting when the first few cases were popping up in Wuhan then meticulously following every cruise ship around the world with infections to see where they had been and where they were going and spreading Covid.


Well, 6 weeks since (your) last post in this thread. No mask and no vax requirements for international travel. Still see a few ultra true believers with masks daily, I think it is a combo security blanket and virtue signaller.



China was reportedly locking down more cities, in recent weeks, supposedly for covid.

Some people where I work seem to have decided that a second round of covid is the new trendy thing to do (I've lost track of how many have tested positive for a second case of covid in recent months), but it's apparently one of the weak strains.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 2:47:35 PM EST
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Bump!
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 2:49:17 PM EST
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Bumping to see who was pushing the fear covid mongering
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All gone like roaches when the lights come on.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 5:04:09 PM EST
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January 2020 isn’t November 2022.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 5:27:51 PM EST
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All gone like roaches when the lights come on.
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Bumping to see who was pushing the fear covid mongering
All gone like roaches when the lights come on.

Ah, tribalism built on false beliefs.

Strong as ever.

Clearly the only thing ever or even mostly done on this thread was fear mongering.
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Link Posted: 11/10/2022 10:02:42 AM EST
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Hi.
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Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
Link Posted: 11/10/2022 10:52:08 AM EST
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The CDC needs to stay on top of this shit.  Fucking air travel is going to kill us all
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They stayed on top on if alright.
Link Posted: 11/10/2022 10:53:34 AM EST
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Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
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Originally Posted By S13:
Hi.


Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
Thanks. Doing good.  I post a lot.  Just in team.


Ive been declared a leper in GD
Link Posted: 11/10/2022 12:24:03 PM EST
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Thanks. Doing good.  I post a lot.  Just in team.


Ive been declared a leper in GD
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By S13:
Hi.


Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
Thanks. Doing good.  I post a lot.  Just in team.


Ive been declared a leper in GD


Ah. Odd though, as I've always pictured GD as the leper colony.
Link Posted: 11/26/2022 5:08:45 PM EST
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Xi is a big fan of Mao and seems determined to duplicate the big famine of Mao's 'Great Leap Forward'.
Link Posted: 11/26/2022 8:51:26 PM EST
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What's the difference between a "quarantine center" and a concentration camp?
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What's the difference between a "quarantine center" and a concentration camp?
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One of them has one more letter.
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