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Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:36:55 AM EDT
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Didn't a unit in the Marine Corps have a logo similar to an Afrika Corps logo? And much butthurt from those not in combat, much less in the military ensue?


Many USMC vehicles had the palm tree w/ EGA painted on them during DS / DS.  This was not PC so the practice was stopped, although not completely-my unit painted in on the bottom of our seabags.  Other units made no effort to remove the insignia.  Bear in mind that this was done about the same time that the UK "Desert Rats" were painting their rodent insignia on their vehicles, so it was more of a nostalgic thing than any desire to be National Socialist.

My CC had the German cross flag flying from one of his antennas to let us know where his tank was in the formation.  

Marines identify with the military professionalism of the Wehrmacht-small, well trained, very motivated, and highly lethal.  National Socialism has no place in the USMC, and is not generally looked up to in my experience.

Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:37:45 AM EDT
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I'm shocked and appalled by this. Appalled. The USMC is renowned for their sensitivity, political correctness and commitment to not hurt other's feelings. Seeing these two sully that when they're supposed to instead be reaching the brainstems hearts of those who need our understanding most just dismayed me.
We look to the USMC to reach out to those who don't yet understanding us, to be America's cradling arms offering friendship and love. These two obviously don't carry that message in their harts. I'm sad for them and for those they've emotionally wounded.



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Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:37:59 AM EDT
[#3]
Cut their hair short and send them to Afghanistan for punishment.

-Oh, wait.


BFD.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:38:54 AM EDT
[#4]
Seabee barracks on the Coronado amphib base:






 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:39:26 AM EDT
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The ultimate irony is that the Arabs would actually approve of Nazi insignia.  They loved the Nazis.  
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:39:29 AM EDT
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Um......those have been symbolic of scout snipers for awhile now


this....a long time
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:39:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:41:10 AM EDT
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History is replete with Runic script of that style, the NAZIs didn't create it and neo-NAZIs don't have a copyright.

BTW-You can't swing a dead cat in India without hitting a Swastika and they aren't NAZIs either.


Some day I want to try this.  Not necessarily in India as it pertains to swastikas, but perhaps some other application for which dead cats being flung were designed for.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:44:03 AM EDT
[#9]
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I'm shocked and appalled by this. Appalled. The USMC is renowned for their sensitivity, political correctness and commitment to not hurt other's feelings. Seeing these two sully that when they're supposed to instead be reaching the brainstems hearts of those who need our understanding most just dismayed me.
We look to the USMC to reach out to those who don't yet understanding us, to be America's cradling arms offering friendship and love. These two obviously don't carry that message in their harts. I'm sad for them and for those they've emotionally wounded.
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Very well written.  This is yet another example of proof that more sensitivity training is needed as part of annual training requirements for our Marines.  Obviously, there was a failure in the Marine's chain of command to take sensitivity training seriously.

Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:45:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:46:52 AM EDT
[#11]
What MSNBC trying to bring down troops....thats just unpossible I tell you!
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:48:35 AM EDT
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Whoop de doo.


Exactly.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:52:48 AM EDT
[#13]
Hey, given the current administration's concern about returning vets joining anti-government militias, maybe I should call the Secret Service on these guys.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:52:57 AM EDT
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In 1992, our scout sniper team was told they they could not be known as the "head hunters," because Buddhists held the head to be a sacred thing and would be offended.

MOST scout snipr teams/platoons have been told for years that the SS logo is a no-go.


On the upside you are not being currently hunted down by offended Buddhists.

That is the kind of thing that makes a man go mad.  You start seeing Buddhists everywhere you go.  That shaved head, the orange robes, the same cold stare.

There must be something to it.

Hell, China craps their collective pants every time the Dalai Llama winks at them.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:56:17 AM EDT
[#15]
Not the brightest move considering, however, some would object if they had used the American flag.  There really are bigger issues to deal with than a couple of lightening bolts.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:57:15 AM EDT
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History is replete with Runic script of that style, the NAZIs didn't create it and neo-NAZIs don't have a copyright.

BTW-You can't swing a dead cat in India without hitting a Swastika and they aren't NAZIs either.

Nazis borrowed just about everything.  The salute comes from the Roman Legions.  
 


We also (civilians saluting the flag) used the Roman salute until WW2.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 10:58:08 AM EDT
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Its pretty obvious that the SS means scout sniper and not Nazis






 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:01:28 AM EDT
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What if some guys were photographed in a KISS t-shirt while in the military?  They use the Sig runes...

Would everyone be butthurt over that too?  I am thinking that in today's climate they just might.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:02:22 AM EDT
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Our warfighters are trained to kill people and blow shit up.

If they want to take pictures pissing on dead terrorists, leave Ace of Spades calling cards nailed to dead enemies skulls,  fly Marine Corps versions of Afrika Korps flags on their tanks, or
whatever other kind of politically-incorrect shit they need to do to keep their morale up and get thru what they have to endure,
then I say leave 'em the fuck alone.





word
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:02:58 AM EDT
[#20]
And???


Half the Scout Snipers I knew had the SS tat somewhere on their body...  This was years ago...
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:04:21 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Whoop de fucking doo.


Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:08:54 AM EDT
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Like others have said, the SS (Scout Sniper...go figure) logo has been used for years.  I dont see what the problem is.  Wasnt there an army unit in WWI or WWII that had a swastica as a unit patch?



Edit to fix my spelling and add this: 45th ID http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/45th_Infantry_insignia_%28swastika%29.svg/220px-45th_Infantry_insignia_%28swastika%29.svg.png


 The 45th ID dropped the Swastika prior to WWII. 37, or 38 IIRC. The reason was the Nazi usurpation of the symbol. They replaced it with the "Thunderbird".



 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:09:24 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Its pretty obvious that the SS means scout sniper and not Nazis


 


No doubt true, but the nazi connection is obvious.

I think they are trying to be edgy with style. You have to admit, the nazis and Germans of the era knew style. Even their weapons and vehicles tended to look cool.

This is also true of the idiots who wear Che t shirts, edgy with style. However, many if not most of them are ignorant of the true Che. What is more concerning is the Che stuff Obama campaign staffers had, since they should both know about the real Che and are too ugly to do the "edgy with style" thing. I think they really support Che.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:09:57 AM EDT
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Hey, given the current administration's concern about returning vets joining anti-government militias, maybe I should call the Secret Service on these guys.


What you did there... I see it.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:10:50 AM EDT
[#25]
Meanwhile, American hippies march under the hammer and sickle and not a peep of outrage from the media....
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:14:44 AM EDT
[#26]
Big Fucking Deal.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:16:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:20:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:28:20 AM EDT
[#29]
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Meanwhile, American hippies march under the hammer and sickle and not a peep of outrage from the media....


Best post I've read all day!



Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:30:11 AM EDT
[#30]
Don't let them see this trailer....










 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:36:13 AM EDT
[#31]
Well...............at least no one got pissed on,
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:37:23 AM EDT
[#32]
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And???


Half the Scout Snipers I knew had the SS tat somewhere on their body...  This was years ago...


Yep, the double runes were everywhere when I was in, including tats, oh the horror.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:39:59 AM EDT
[#33]
Quick somebody start an investigation!!!!





Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:40:27 AM EDT
[#34]

Yep, I worked with a guy in Iraq who had a Kopfjaeger tattoo and the SS.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:42:23 AM EDT
[#35]
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Don't let them see this trailer....

 


Gotta see that, looks like great fun

Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:44:59 AM EDT
[#36]
I don't give a damn.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:45:18 AM EDT
[#37]
RESEMBLING?











































ETA: Beaten to it by jarhead...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:47:37 AM EDT
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Seriously who cares.  The Swastika wasnt something the Nazi's made up.  I seem to remember that in Japan the monks still use the Swastika on the entrances for their places of worship.  



"The swastika (Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing (卐) form in counterclockwise motion or its mirrored left-facing (卍) form in clockwise motion. Earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization of Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in other various ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol to evoke 'shakti' or the sacred symbol of auspiciousness. The swastika is also a Chinese character used in East Asia representing eternity and Buddhism."





He was posing with SS.  OMFG!!!! Fucking knee jerk idiots.  So if I go buy a Camaro SS that means I am trying to be a Nazi because my car has an SS on it?


The New Mexico National Guard patch featured a swastika on it until we got involved in WWII.  

 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:47:41 AM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


Seriously who cares.  The Swastika wasnt something the Nazi's made up.  I seem to remember that in Japan the monks still use the Swastika on the entrances for their places of worship.  



"The swastika (Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing (卐) form in counterclockwise motion or its mirrored left-facing (卍) form in clockwise motion. Earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization of Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in other various ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol to evoke 'shakti' or the sacred symbol of auspiciousness. The swastika is also a Chinese character used in East Asia representing eternity and Buddhism."





He was posing with SS.  OMFG!!!! Fucking knee jerk idiots.  So if I go buy a Camaro SS that means I am trying to be a Nazi because my car has an SS on it?


minor note:  the oriental swastika was set flat, like a square.  the nazi version is set on point, like a diamond.





 
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:51:40 AM EDT
[#40]
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Didn't a unit in the Marine Corps have a logo similar to an Afrika Corps logo? And much butthurt from those not in combat, much less in the military ensue?


That was the actual German Military ISAF contingent and Der Speigel (German News Magazine) tried to trump a sexy action news story to make it look like the Third Reich was rising again.

Obviously it means SCOUT SNIPER.  SS.  I'm not concerned. Certainly not going to accuse men who can kill me at a mile plus of being NAZIs.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 11:54:37 AM EDT
[#41]
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In 1992, our scout sniper team was told they they could not be known as the "head hunters," because Buddhists held the head to be a sacred thing and would be offended.

MOST scout snipr teams/platoons have been told for years that the SS logo is a no-go.


Yes, and they've been told a million other things regarding "PC" related stuff. Young guys just not thinking.  I don't see any malicious intent here, but Lord knows the media will trump it up. They never miss an opportunity to run anti-military stories...even though the press has been silent as church mice about the War in Afghanistan ever since Obama took over.  Hell, I remember under Bush we got daily casualty numbers from the press, but not anymore.

Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:00:24 PM EDT
[#42]
I can't believe the story compares it to the Marine urinating on the dead Taliban.

Come on media.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:02:42 PM EDT
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LinkThe Marine Corps confirms that one of its scout sniper teams in Afghanistan posed for a photograph in front of a flag with logo resembling that of the notorious Nazi SS.


Here we go


Typical misleading MSM headline.

They are not posing in front of SS flag.  The flag's symbols are Norse runes, though I can't remember exactly what they stand for.  It is true that the SS displayed them, but they are far from the only military organization that displayed those runes.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:04:47 PM EDT
[#44]
the USMC DAK logo kicks ass


that is all
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:07:02 PM EDT
[#45]
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And???


Half the Scout Snipers I knew had the SS tat somewhere on their body...  This was years ago...


The one I know has them as well.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:08:30 PM EDT
[#46]
So I guess GM is a NAZI company since they produced in the 1960's and 70's...
Camero SS...
Nova SS...
etc.
etc.

and Obama bailed out GM, so Obama is a NAZI too.

Fuck Liberal Political Correctness, eat shit and die all of you liberal shits.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:09:09 PM EDT
[#47]
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So I guess GM is a NAZI company since they produced in the 1960's and 70's...
Camero SS...
Nova SS...
etc.
etc.

and Obama bailed out GM, so Obama is a NAZI too.

Fuck Liberal Political Correctness, eat shit and die all of you liberal shits.


Good point.
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:09:38 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, American hippies march under the hammer and sickle and not a peep of outrage from the media....


fucking this

People get offended at Swastikas, Runes, or any hint of Nazi type symbols (which is completely understandable), yet I see kids everyday wearing shirts with the Hammer and Sickle on them. One kid even had hat with the hammer, sickle, and "CCCP" on it

One of these days I should file a complaint on them, I had relatives shot/jailed by the Russians
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:11:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
And???


Half the Scout Snipers I knew had the SS tat somewhere on their body...  This was years ago...


The one I know has them as well.




However, if the main stream media wants to make a habit of pissing off combat-hardened, well-trained, experienced USMC Scout Snipers - who am I to stand in their way???

Snipers' turn...
Link Posted: 2/9/2012 12:15:34 PM EDT
[#50]
Both Indians and Native Americans liked the Swastika



They could have used a different S shape


 
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