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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:22:30 AM EDT
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So what they are saying is that if Halliburton actually Jericho'd the USA, not much would be lost.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:23:36 AM EDT
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In New York, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than 6-to-1, yet voters hadn’t elected a Democrat since David Dinkins lost to Rudolph Giuliani in 1993. They elected RINOs instead. Same difference. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:25:03 AM EDT
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The Republican party controls half of the state legislatures and half the state governors are Republicans, but Bloomberg's propaganda machine says that the party lacks a "power base".
It seems that someone in the machine doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "power base". |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:26:46 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:27:20 AM EDT
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Democrats Run Biggest Cities
This is why most large cities are crime ridden shitholes. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:28:14 AM EDT
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Our country has been divided between "urban" and "rural" politically since the 1800s.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:28:41 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. This. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:29:02 AM EDT
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Free stuff, it buys the Democrats what they want.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:30:11 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. The north had more big cities than the south... EDIT: I also feel the need to point out: - The south lost 76k soldiers in battle; the north lost 140k soldiers in battle. (non-battlefield losses were about equal). - The last battle of the civil war was fought in Texas, and the Texans whooped a yankee commander why didn't know when to stop. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:30:52 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. Many are along a coast so we can push them into the sea and see how the Dems float. 
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:31:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Republican party controls half of the state legislatures and half the state governors are Republicans, but Bloomberg's propaganda machine says that the party lacks a "power base". It seems that someone in the machine doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "power base". Doubt me? Look at the movement of auto dealerships. Very few remain in large cities because they are land intensive but moderate in land improvements. They can afford to move. Now this is the norm in Texas, might not apply elsewhere. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:32:48 AM EDT
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There is very little growth in the cities, compared to the conservative enclaves surrounding the cities that are isolated from the oppressive tax rates. Eventually, the retail centers will also escape and by doing so, rob the liberal urban centers of their tax base. Doubt me? Look at the movement of auto dealerships. Very few remain in large cities because they are land intensive but moderate in land improvements. They can afford to move. Now this is the norm in Texas, might not apply elsewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Republican party controls half of the state legislatures and half the state governors are Republicans, but Bloomberg's propaganda machine says that the party lacks a "power base". It seems that someone in the machine doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "power base". Doubt me? Look at the movement of auto dealerships. Very few remain in large cities because they are land intensive but moderate in land improvements. They can afford to move. Now this is the norm in Texas, might not apply elsewhere. That's ALOT like what happened in Detroit. Status of Detroit(?)...........BANKRUPT. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:35:57 AM EDT
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Democrats Run Biggest Cities This is why most large cities are crime ridden shitholes. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:41:22 AM EDT
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them. 
They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:43:01 AM EDT
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It always amazes me when they put up the by county pres. election map. The whole country is red expect for the urban blue area's but by land mass its prob 80-20 or so in red.
The worse part is with the city folk in charge many of the laws/taxes they can vote in really doesnt effect folks in that urban area. They only hurt the red part of the voting area. I mean take NYC if most of the folks don't even have cars then who cares about some green laws or gas taxes that hurt the folks who live upstate. Even gun laws are easier to write up. Most folks in the cities aren't raised hunting/shooting as the norm so guns are just some scary thing they see on the news. A lot of rural folks its just such a normal part of childhood learning and wanting to learn how to shoot/hunt etc. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:43:13 AM EDT
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They elected RINOs instead. Same difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In New York, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than 6-to-1, yet voters hadn’t elected a Democrat since David Dinkins lost to Rudolph Giuliani in 1993. They elected RINOs instead. Same difference. That's the model a lot of people want the GOP to embrace. Go out and meet the electorate where they are. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:44:07 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. That's essentially the Spanish Civil War. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:45:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's ALOT like what happened in Detroit. Status of Detroit(?)...........BANKRUPT. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Republican party controls half of the state legislatures and half the state governors are Republicans, but Bloomberg's propaganda machine says that the party lacks a "power base". It seems that someone in the machine doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "power base". Doubt me? Look at the movement of auto dealerships. Very few remain in large cities because they are land intensive but moderate in land improvements. They can afford to move. Now this is the norm in Texas, might not apply elsewhere. That's ALOT like what happened in Detroit. Status of Detroit(?)...........BANKRUPT.  |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:46:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them. They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere. Fuck them. Assholes like Nelson Wolf here in Bexar county also propose tolling existing highways to limit economic exodus from the liberal shithole of San Antonio. Fuck that idiot with a red hot poker. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:47:38 AM EDT
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I grew up in Detroit and was a cop there for awhile (before I smartened up.). Coleman Young was elected in 74 and it was a downhilll slide into socialism from there.
Look at Detroit today. Unless we regain control of the country, you are also looking at the future of the US. 
Once beautiful homes. 
Entire neighborhoods of vacant homes demolished and pushed into their basements. 
The future of socialism in the US. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:49:16 AM EDT
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The situation has not gone unnoticed. Colorado just experienced the first "shot across the bow" moment.
And there are proposed remedies that need to be implemented to put our nation on a more stable political course. Parity Movement A new proposal to give rural Colorado residents more clout in the legislature by changing the way senators are apportioned goes hand-in-hand with the 51st state movement, proponents of both ideas say.
"As long as something changes and gives us some voice in what happens in this state, there is more than one way to skin a cat," Phillips County administrator Randy Schafer said. Schafer earlier this year pushed the Phillips Plan in response to complaints that rural, mostly northeastern Colorado counties, were being ignored by Denver-centric lawmakers. The plan suggested Colorado's 65 state representatives be elected by county, rather than from districts drawn based on population. But Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg, R-Sterling, is advancing a new plan that shifts the emphasis to the state Senate. His proposal would give one state senator to each of the six largest counties by land mass — Las Animas, Moffat, Weld, Mesa, Gunnison, and Rio Blanco. The remaining counties would be paired off, and one senator would be elected from each group. Now, the Colorado solution and proposal may not fit or address all the situations across our nation, but it's a step in the "right" direction and would address the growing representative disparity between the population dense big cities and outlying urban industry areas. The potential downside, of course, is the population migration to the urban areas leaving the cities in need. One example ...Detroit. There are literally, hundreds if not thousands of other less colorful examples coast to coast. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:49:54 AM EDT
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Our country has been divided between "urban" and "rural" politically since the 1800s. Our parties themselves though, have not been. That's really shaken out over the last 20 years. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:50:15 AM EDT
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..................... I thought Detroit was vacated due to white flight..after the 1967 race riots. But of course it was tax rates once Coleman was mayor which caused the economic migration...nay, economic exodus
Yup. It takes a LONG time for a city to go bankrupt but retail centers left by the boatload after the 1967 riots and contributed, over the long haul, to Detroit becoming a bankrupt city. The retail stores didn't leave over night..........it took many years but they left and it was basically the death blow to Detroit. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:53:18 AM EDT
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They elected RINOs instead. Same difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In New York, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than 6-to-1, yet voters hadn’t elected a Democrat since David Dinkins lost to Rudolph Giuliani in 1993. They elected RINOs instead. Same difference. For the most part, North-East Republican politicians are just Democrats that didn't feel like "waiting for their turn." |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 4:56:56 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. We have them surrounded, so we're already at an advantage if the urbanites decide to start getting uppity. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:01:50 AM EDT
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This will workout better for the repubs during the Zombie apocalypse.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:02:06 AM EDT
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There is very little growth in the cities, compared to the conservative enclaves surrounding the cities that are isolated from the oppressive tax rates. Eventually, the retail centers will also escape and by doing so, rob the liberal urban centers of their tax base. Doubt me? Look at the movement of auto dealerships. Very few remain in large cities because they are land intensive but moderate in land improvements. They can afford to move. Now this is the norm in Texas, might not apply elsewhere. What's happened around me for the last 25 years, the liberals are moving into my county. They've got to suck off the producers who have left big cities to the outlying suburbs. As that happens they bring their crime and stupidity with them. Then the producers keep moving farther away. News people used to refer to the suburbs as the "tri county" Detroit metro area. I've been hearing them lately say the "seven county" Detroit metro area in what I assume is a feeble attempt to keep Detroit relevant. I'm at least 47 miles away from Detroit and don't bother going down there anymore. When I moved here to Livingston County there wasn't even a democrat HQ. Life was really nice, but the people that had been here years me before started moving farther away after I'd been here 10 years. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:04:08 AM EDT
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The north had more big cities than the south... EDIT: I also feel the need to point out: - The south lost 76k soldiers in battle; the north lost 140k soldiers in battle. (non-battlefield losses were about equal). - The last battle of the civil war was fought in Texas, and the Texans whooped a yankee commander why didn't know when to stop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. The north had more big cities than the south... EDIT: I also feel the need to point out: - The south lost 76k soldiers in battle; the north lost 140k soldiers in battle. (non-battlefield losses were about equal). - The last battle of the civil war was fought in Texas, and the Texans whooped a yankee commander why didn't know when to stop. Industrialized economic base vs. agricultural economic base. A contributing factor for both the reason and the outcome of the war. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:04:31 AM EDT
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...................... What's happened around me for the last 25 years, the liberals are moving into my county. They've got to suck off the producers who have left big cities to the outlying suburbs. As that happens they bring their crime and stupidity with them. Then the producers keep moving farther away. News people used to refer to the suburbs as the "tri county" Detroit metro area. I've been hearing them lately say the "seven county" Detroit metro area in what I assume is a feeble attempt to keep Detroit relevant. I'm at least 47 miles away from Detroit and don't bother going down there anymore. When I moved here to Livingston County there wasn't even a democrat HQ. Life was really nice, but the people that had been here years me before started moving farther away after I'd been here 10 years. Pretty much this IMHO. We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats. I refuse to live with them. They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with. My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out. It's ok now where we live but I see it coming. We are lucky we have the money to do so. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:11:20 AM EDT
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So the places that SUCK to live are run by Democrats, and the places where you can actually lead a decent life are run by Republicans. Got it.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:11:59 AM EDT
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So the places that SUCK to live are run by Democrats, and the places where you can actually lead a decent life are run by Republicans. Got it. Pretty much. Learn from it. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:15:53 AM EDT
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Our parties themselves though, have not been. That's really shaken out over the last 20 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our country has been divided between "urban" and "rural" politically since the 1800s. Our parties themselves though, have not been. That's really shaken out over the last 20 years. Reynolds v. Simms didn't help. Most states couldn't elect a Dem majority in both chambers if the Warren Court hadn't stuck their noses in. That affects redistricting (and the all important voting regs) and the whole thing rolls on from there. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:17:48 AM EDT
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Pretty much this IMHO. We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats. I refuse to live with them. They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with. My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out. It's ok now where we live but I see it coming. We are lucky we have the money to do so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...................... What's happened around me for the last 25 years, the liberals are moving into my county. They've got to suck off the producers who have left big cities to the outlying suburbs. As that happens they bring their crime and stupidity with them. Then the producers keep moving farther away. News people used to refer to the suburbs as the "tri county" Detroit metro area. I've been hearing them lately say the "seven county" Detroit metro area in what I assume is a feeble attempt to keep Detroit relevant. I'm at least 47 miles away from Detroit and don't bother going down there anymore. When I moved here to Livingston County there wasn't even a democrat HQ. Life was really nice, but the people that had been here years me before started moving farther away after I'd been here 10 years. Pretty much this IMHO. We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats. I refuse to live with them. They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with. My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out. It's ok now where we live but I see it coming. We are lucky we have the money to do so. The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them? |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:21:43 AM EDT
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............. The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them? That is a VERY good point and I don't have an answer I am sorry to say. We just have the money to move out and are lucky I guess. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:22:56 AM EDT
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The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...................... What's happened around me for the last 25 years, the liberals are moving into my county. They've got to suck off the producers who have left big cities to the outlying suburbs. As that happens they bring their crime and stupidity with them. Then the producers keep moving farther away. News people used to refer to the suburbs as the "tri county" Detroit metro area. I've been hearing them lately say the "seven county" Detroit metro area in what I assume is a feeble attempt to keep Detroit relevant. I'm at least 47 miles away from Detroit and don't bother going down there anymore. When I moved here to Livingston County there wasn't even a democrat HQ. Life was really nice, but the people that had been here years me before started moving farther away after I'd been here 10 years. Pretty much this IMHO. We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats. I refuse to live with them. They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with. My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out. It's ok now where we live but I see it coming. We are lucky we have the money to do so. The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them? Canada |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:24:24 AM EDT
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That is a VERY good point and I don't have an answer I am sorry to say. We just have the money to move out and are lucky I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............. The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them? That is a VERY good point and I don't have an answer I am sorry to say. We just have the money to move out and are lucky I guess. The locusts will keep following us unless we can come up with a plan to either keep them out or to reclaim our towns and cities. If we can somehow relegate them to the cities that they ruined at least we can show the country what long term leftist leadership looks like if they allow them in their towns. We've got Detroit, Gary, IN and many others so far. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:24:42 AM EDT
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..................... Canada It would be easier to buy an M16 from the Marines than property in Canada. 
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:25:20 AM EDT
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............. The locusts will keep following us unless we can come up with a plan to either keep them out or to reclaim our towns and cities. If we can somehow relegate them to the cities that they ruined at least we can show the country what long term leftist leadership looks like if they allow them in their towns. We've got Detroit, Gary, IN and many others so far. I agree with you completely. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:25:39 AM EDT
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It would be easier to buy an M16 from the Marines than property in Canada. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..................... Canada It would be easier to buy an M16 from the Marines than property in Canada. we could liberate them. 
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:31:24 AM EDT
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There are somewhat large segments of libertarian and fiscal conservatives locked on the boundaries of urban areas as well.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:38:49 AM EDT
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We have them surrounded, so we're already at an advantage if the urbanites decide to start getting uppity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. We have them surrounded, so we're already at an advantage if the urbanites decide to start getting uppity. Strategically, the cities lost before any violent conflict could begin. Rural areas have no interest in occupying the cities. A simple blockage and starvation is a bitch. There doesn't need to be a civil war. If the people of the cities want welfare and big daddy government, let them. But I demand that they exist in their own little bubble. No more robbing the rural and suburban areas for their payday. Pull from their own wealth resource pool. If that means letting them be their own legislative and executive oasis, so be it. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:41:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. Block the interstates into the cities, go watch Nascar, win hypothetical civil war. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:43:19 AM EDT
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Its amazing the amount of property a city can control via legislation through the state government .
Shicago > Illinois NYC > NY Baltimore > Maryland I know there other cases of one city running a state where majority of the land mass is hostage to the city . Or like in Va case multiple cities . |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:48:00 AM EDT
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That's essentially the Spanish Civil War. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base. That's essentially the Spanish Civil War. Hopefully. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:48:50 AM EDT
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Its amazing the amount of property a city can control via legislation through the state government . Shicago > Illinois NYC > NY Baltimore > Maryland I know there other cases of one city running a state where majority of the land mass is hostage to the city . Or like in Va case multiple cities . They'll argue that a bush shouldn't have a vote, a person should (If one were to give counties equal representation). I would argue that the "problems" of rural and suburban areas are a whole lot different than Chicago and NYC. The metro sexual Denver hipster shouldn't be making policy for all of Colorado when they haven't stepped foot off concrete in their lives. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:49:17 AM EDT
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For the most part, North-East Republican politicians are just Democrats that didn't feel like "waiting for their turn." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In New York, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than 6-to-1, yet voters hadn’t elected a Democrat since David Dinkins lost to Rudolph Giuliani in 1993. They elected RINOs instead. Same difference. For the most part, North-East Republican politicians are just Democrats that didn't feel like "waiting for their turn." QFT. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 5:52:38 AM EDT
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We only have to look at Detroit to see what happens when Dems have a free hand in everything.
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Posted: 11/30/2013 6:02:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the places that SUCK to live are run by Democrats, and the places where you can actually lead a decent life are run by Republicans. Got it. Problem is, the Democrats also flee from their self created utopias into rural areas because of their desire to have something nice and yet continue to vote for liberal Democrats. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 6:14:46 AM EDT
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Problem is, the Democrats also flee from their self created utopias into rural areas because of their desire to have something nice and yet continue to vote for liberal Democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the places that SUCK to live are run by Democrats, and the places where you can actually lead a decent life are run by Republicans. Got it. Problem is, the Democrats also flee from their self created utopias into rural areas because of their desire to have something nice and yet continue to vote for liberal Democrats. Virus. Cancer. Pick your metaphor. |
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Posted: 11/30/2013 6:18:22 AM EDT
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.
They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere. Fuck them. You pegged Louisville, Ky. |
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