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Posted: 2/1/2015 1:40:09 AM EDT
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I really want that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've stripped them down and it's not too difficult. The new version has been upgraded with a better front sight, stock, forend, threaded barrel and they'll be adding some new models eventually that will take mags from the M&P and XD/M. The weight and portability of the Sub2K is a big plus. Until someone else copies it, it's the only choice. I've had 2 G17 versions and neither has malfunctioned with any ammo. Version 2 (technically 3) http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/outdoorhub-kel-tec-introduces-sub-2000-gen-2-plans-summer-release-rdb-2015-01-26_13-40-37-880x423.jpg I really want that. You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 1:45:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've stripped them down and it's not too difficult. The new version has been upgraded with a better front sight, stock, forend, threaded barrel and they'll be adding some new models eventually that will take mags from the M&P and XD/M. The weight and portability of the Sub2K is a big plus. Until someone else copies it, it's the only choice. I've had 2 G17 versions and neither has malfunctioned with any ammo. Version 2 (technically 3) http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/outdoorhub-kel-tec-introduces-sub-2000-gen-2-plans-summer-release-rdb-2015-01-26_13-40-37-880x423.jpg I really want that. You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, According to them, the new process is simpler and faster. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:14:48 AM EDT
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Serious question, how are the ergonomics when inserting a magazine designed for pistols? Probably not too hard with practice, but it seems straight or a forward slant would be easier. Like an AR/MP5. Though with the CZ Evo coming out and magazines being cheap (~$15 in Czech Republic) I think this thing is a bit "meh". Unless you have a lot of Glock mags and that is the only reason you want it.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:19:29 AM EDT
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If someone made a 9mm carbine that took glock mags, but was styled similar to an M1 carbine or ruger 10/22, I would be all over it.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:25:12 AM EDT
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If someone made a 9mm carbine that took glock mags, but was styled similar to an M1 carbine or ruger 10/22, I would be all over it. WORD!!! |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 4:05:12 AM EDT
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You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've stripped them down and it's not too difficult. The new version has been upgraded with a better front sight, stock, forend, threaded barrel and they'll be adding some new models eventually that will take mags from the M&P and XD/M. The weight and portability of the Sub2K is a big plus. Until someone else copies it, it's the only choice. I've had 2 G17 versions and neither has malfunctioned with any ammo. Version 2 (technically 3) http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/outdoorhub-kel-tec-introduces-sub-2000-gen-2-plans-summer-release-rdb-2015-01-26_13-40-37-880x423.jpg I really want that. You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, I still wish that they would fold and swivel so you don't have to remove your Aimpoint micro or get an aftermarket foreend. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 10:25:42 AM EDT
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Put the aimpoint micro on a 45degree offset mount.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:13:16 PM EDT
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If someone made a 9mm carbine that took glock mags, but was styled similar to an M1 carbine or ruger 10/22, I would be all over it. Citadel did, but unfortunately went with M9 mags |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:16:35 PM EDT
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According to them, the new process is simpler and faster. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've stripped them down and it's not too difficult. The new version has been upgraded with a better front sight, stock, forend, threaded barrel and they'll be adding some new models eventually that will take mags from the M&P and XD/M. The weight and portability of the Sub2K is a big plus. Until someone else copies it, it's the only choice. I've had 2 G17 versions and neither has malfunctioned with any ammo. Version 2 (technically 3) http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/outdoorhub-kel-tec-introduces-sub-2000-gen-2-plans-summer-release-rdb-2015-01-26_13-40-37-880x423.jpg I really want that. You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, According to them, the new process is simpler and faster. I'll believe it when I see it. Fingers are crossed though. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:32:11 PM EDT
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The Nano looks like shit.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:42:41 PM EDT
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Wonder if I could fit my lightning link in this?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:47:03 PM EDT
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I shoot a 5.5" SBR 9mm with 147gr TCMC ammo. It will hold a 1 MOA group at 100yds. It (9mm 147) has taken three deer at that range as well. All have been DRT. I have a 16" M4 profile in the gunsafe as well. At 75yds it will cloverleaf 147gr ammo. TRG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish there was a SBR / Pistol Length version! How lethal and at what range is a 9mm with a 16 inch barrel? I shoot a 5.5" SBR 9mm with 147gr TCMC ammo. It will hold a 1 MOA group at 100yds. It (9mm 147) has taken three deer at that range as well. All have been DRT. I have a 16" M4 profile in the gunsafe as well. At 75yds it will cloverleaf 147gr ammo. TRG What kind of optic and what range is it zeroed at? I've been thinking of a 9mm carbine for hunting at my house. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 12:51:19 PM EDT
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I still wish that they would fold and swivel so you don't have to remove your Aimpoint micro or get an aftermarket foreend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've stripped them down and it's not too difficult. The new version has been upgraded with a better front sight, stock, forend, threaded barrel and they'll be adding some new models eventually that will take mags from the M&P and XD/M. The weight and portability of the Sub2K is a big plus. Until someone else copies it, it's the only choice. I've had 2 G17 versions and neither has malfunctioned with any ammo. Version 2 (technically 3) http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/outdoorhub-kel-tec-introduces-sub-2000-gen-2-plans-summer-release-rdb-2015-01-26_13-40-37-880x423.jpg I really want that. You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, I still wish that they would fold and swivel so you don't have to remove your Aimpoint micro or get an aftermarket foreend. One of the members here actually made one that does that. Pretty slick and Kel-Tec would have a real winner if they copied it. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 1:06:26 PM EDT
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Excuse my ignorance (never played with a pistol caliber carbine) but would this be noticeably quieter to shoot than a pistol? No. Longer barrel says yes, it will be quieter. No specs on the barrel/bolt? UTG garbage? I'll pass. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still wish that they would fold and swivel so you don't have to remove your Aimpoint micro or get an aftermarket foreend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've stripped them down and it's not too difficult. The new version has been upgraded with a better front sight, stock, forend, threaded barrel and they'll be adding some new models eventually that will take mags from the M&P and XD/M. The weight and portability of the Sub2K is a big plus. Until someone else copies it, it's the only choice. I've had 2 G17 versions and neither has malfunctioned with any ammo. Version 2 (technically 3) http://cdn.net.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/outdoorhub-kel-tec-introduces-sub-2000-gen-2-plans-summer-release-rdb-2015-01-26_13-40-37-880x423.jpg I really want that. You and me both partner. I hope they start cranking them out in high numbers, I still wish that they would fold and swivel so you don't have to remove your Aimpoint micro or get an aftermarket foreend. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:58:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put the aimpoint micro on a 45degree offset mount. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Nano looks like shit. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:01:59 PM EDT
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Citadel did, but unfortunately went with M9 mags Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If someone made a 9mm carbine that took glock mags, but was styled similar to an M1 carbine or ruger 10/22, I would be all over it. Citadel did, but unfortunately went with M9 mags And seated them vertically. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:07:39 PM EDT
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You had me at "Glock mags". Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:25:40 PM EDT
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Longer barrel says yes, it will be quieter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Excuse my ignorance (never played with a pistol caliber carbine) but would this be noticeably quieter to shoot than a pistol? No. Longer barrel says yes, it will be quieter. I've seen a .44 lever carbine, sounded more like a ka_thump than a KaDAK! Don't know why a 9mm would be any different. If I owned anything in 9, I'd be more interested. Hit me up when it comes out in .40 |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put the aimpoint micro on a 45degree offset mount. or a flip mount
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:52:12 PM EDT
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any of you genius boo lit guys can figure the added MV from a carbine barrel on the 9 when compared to the glock bbl?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 3:57:49 PM EDT
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any of you genius boo lit guys can figure the added MV from a carbine barrel on the 9 when compared to the glock bbl? Who is going to be the first Arfcom'er to buy one? Pics and a range report are needed. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 4:05:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: any of you genius boo lit guys can figure the added MV from a carbine barrel on the 9 when compared to the glock bbl? I didn't do the math for the +P loads. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 4:07:08 PM EDT
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Very interesting. I'll be watching this one. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 4:51:52 PM EDT
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You could always make your own gun if you think you could do better? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Nano looks like shit. 
Even if I did, the Nano would still look like shit. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 4:54:52 PM EDT
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Looks interesting, I may have to add it to the collection.
Oly arms 9mm glock mags Keltec glock mags with red lion forend - yes thats a silicone pad holder on the forend, suppressor gets toasty. 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:00:29 PM EDT
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Looks interesting, I may have to add it to the collection. Oly arms 9mm glock mags Keltec glock mags with red lion forend - yes thats a silicone pad holder on the forend, suppressor gets toasty. http://members.quixnet.net/mcress/Keltec/sub2000-5.jpg Nice |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:10:39 PM EDT
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While interesting, a little bit.
I would much rather have a 9mm upper that didn't use the stock AR recoil system, thus allowing folding stocks. Left side charging handle would be nice as well. The ability to use Glock mags is some what lost on me. While I have a shit ton of G17 mags, I also have 20 9mm AR mags and don't care for the appearance of the angled back mag. So, I guess I am saying.....meh. 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:49:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How dare you bring common sense and a solution to people bitching about a simplistic problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Put the aimpoint micro on a 45degree offset mount. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:08:11 PM EDT
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While interesting, a little bit. I would much rather have a 9mm upper that didn't use the stock AR recoil system, thus allowing folding stocks. Left side charging handle would be nice as well. The ability to use Glock mags is some what lost on me. While I have a shit ton of G17 mags, I also have 20 9mm AR mags and don't care for the appearance of the angled back mag. So, I guess I am saying.....meh. It has a left side charging handle. I agree about the stock to a degree but I think that would require a lot more change in the design. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:21:53 PM EDT
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You know, it's a sad time when someone has to specify that they were referring to females when talking about strippers..... you'd figure something like that would simply be assumed unless otherwise indicated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That fucking thing looks as much fun as a couple of bi-sexual strippers and a bag of coke !!!! And for under 600 bucks ? !!!!!!!! Shit. Did this thread turn ghay or is it turning into a transmission thread too? Quoted:
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That fucking thing looks as much fun as a couple of bi-sexual strippers and a bag of coke !!!! 
And for under 600 bucks ? !!!!!!!! Shit. Agreed......................if they're female strippers You know, it's a sad time when someone has to specify that they were referring to females when talking about strippers..... you'd figure something like that would simply be assumed unless otherwise indicated. Yep. World done gone crazy. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:25:02 PM EDT
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Back on topic,
I'd like one that used G20 mags and all SBR'd up. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen a .44 lever carbine, sounded more like a ka_thump than a KaDAK! Don't know why a 9mm would be any different. If I owned anything in 9, I'd be more interested. Hit me up when it comes out in .40 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excuse my ignorance (never played with a pistol caliber carbine) but would this be noticeably quieter to shoot than a pistol? No. Longer barrel says yes, it will be quieter. I've seen a .44 lever carbine, sounded more like a ka_thump than a KaDAK! Don't know why a 9mm would be any different. If I owned anything in 9, I'd be more interested. Hit me up when it comes out in .40 |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:46:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if I did, the Nano would still look like shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Nano looks like shit. Even if I did, the Nano would still look like shit. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:51:28 PM EDT
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Looks like an AR? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Nano looks like shit.
Even if I did, the Nano would still look like shit. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:00:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it looks like a shitty abortion of an AR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Nano looks like shit. Even if I did, the Nano would still look like shit. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:01:19 PM EDT
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I might go for the TNW ASP instead.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:17:08 PM EDT
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any of you genius boo lit guys can figure the added MV from a carbine barrel on the 9 when compared to the glock bbl? What if someone already did it for you? Here you go |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 8:20:05 PM EDT
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I wish it took Beretta mags, I have a stack. This thing is invisible on the net. Weird. 1 week agoCompare prices for this model ReportComments (0)Views (3592) Price: $481.75Citadel M-1 9mm Carbine 9mm 18" 10+1 Synthetic Stk Blued Matte - $481.75 + $5.99 S/HCITADEL™ M-1 CARBINE - BLACK SYNTHETIC STOCK •Similar look and feel of the WWII M1-30 carried by U.S. and Allied armed forces •Semi-auto, bolt locking blowback system •Adjustable rear & fixed front sights •6 groove rifling •Twist: 1:10" •Synthetic bayonet lug •Oiler & nylon sling cut-out in stock •Includes (2) 10-round Beretta style 92FS mags Cal.: 9mm - Brl.: 18" SKU#: CIR9M1S UPC#: 682146210194 |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 1:23:45 AM EDT
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1 week agoCompare prices for this model ReportComments (0)Views (3592) Price: $481.75Citadel M-1 9mm Carbine 9mm 18" 10+1 Synthetic Stk Blued Matte - $481.75 + $5.99 S/HCITADEL™ M-1 CARBINE - BLACK SYNTHETIC STOCK •Similar look and feel of the WWII M1-30 carried by U.S. and Allied armed forces •Semi-auto, bolt locking blowback system •Adjustable rear & fixed front sights •6 groove rifling •Twist: 1:10" •Synthetic bayonet lug •Oiler & nylon sling cut-out in stock •Includes (2) 10-round Beretta style 92FS mags Cal.: 9mm - Brl.: 18" SKU#: CIR9M1S UPC#: 682146210194 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish it took Beretta mags, I have a stack. This thing is invisible on the net. Weird. 1 week agoCompare prices for this model ReportComments (0)Views (3592) Price: $481.75Citadel M-1 9mm Carbine 9mm 18" 10+1 Synthetic Stk Blued Matte - $481.75 + $5.99 S/HCITADEL™ M-1 CARBINE - BLACK SYNTHETIC STOCK •Similar look and feel of the WWII M1-30 carried by U.S. and Allied armed forces •Semi-auto, bolt locking blowback system •Adjustable rear & fixed front sights •6 groove rifling •Twist: 1:10" •Synthetic bayonet lug •Oiler & nylon sling cut-out in stock •Includes (2) 10-round Beretta style 92FS mags Cal.: 9mm - Brl.: 18" SKU#: CIR9M1S UPC#: 682146210194 Citadel doesn't enjoy a good reputation. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 5:37:30 AM EDT
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Best bet is to form 1 a CZ EVO Skorpion pistol. That thing is going to be a monster seller and is bound to have a shitload of third party support.
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Posted: 2/2/2015 5:39:25 AM EDT
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Looks interesting, I may have to add it to the collection. Oly arms 9mm glock mags Keltec glock mags with red lion forend - yes thats a silicone pad holder on the forend, suppressor gets toasty. http://members.quixnet.net/mcress/Keltec/sub2000-5.jpg Is that the closest you can mount the optic on the Red Lion? |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 5:49:28 AM EDT
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I wish it took Beretta mags, I have a stack. This thing is invisible on the net. Weird. CX4 Storm is an awesome little carbine. |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 8:31:17 AM EDT
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What kind of optic and what range is it zeroed at? I've been thinking of a 9mm carbine for hunting at my house. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish there was a SBR / Pistol Length version! How lethal and at what range is a 9mm with a 16 inch barrel? I shoot a 5.5" SBR 9mm with 147gr TCMC ammo. It will hold a 1 MOA group at 100yds. It (9mm 147) has taken three deer at that range as well. All have been DRT. I have a 16" M4 profile in the gunsafe as well. At 75yds it will cloverleaf 147gr ammo. TRG What kind of optic and what range is it zeroed at? I've been thinking of a 9mm carbine for hunting at my house. ACOG. Zeroed at 100yds. TRG |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 8:36:10 AM EDT
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CX4 Storm is an awesome little carbine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish it took Beretta mags, I have a stack. This thing is invisible on the net. Weird. CX4 Storm is an awesome little carbine. The fender flares and Type-R plastic work just seems silly on it. TRG |
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Posted: 2/2/2015 8:50:04 AM EDT
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More glock mag lower. Only saw it mentioned once in this thread.Qc10 with vid
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Posted: 2/2/2015 8:54:18 AM EDT
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$550 rifle $200 tax stamp $150 cut, rethread, engraving, shipping two ways $150 new rail $50 new buttstock For the cost of that you could almost buy a Lone Wolf 10" Glock AR with a Sig Brace on it. At least then you'd know what you're getting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Buy it. Submit Form 1 Send to Adco to cut down and re thread Add suppressor and better furniture 33 Rd Magazine $200 tax stamp $150 cut, rethread, engraving, shipping two ways $150 new rail $50 new buttstock For the cost of that you could almost buy a Lone Wolf 10" Glock AR with a Sig Brace on it. At least then you'd know what you're getting. 
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Posted: 2/2/2015 9:22:59 AM EDT
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I'm interested.
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Posted: 2/2/2015 9:33:49 AM EDT
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Fuck that piece of gay tranny shit! If I'm going 9mm carbine, I'd want the Beretta CX4 Storm.
Better ergos, completely ambidextrous and shorter OAL. 
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