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Posted: 3/12/2015 8:53:23 PM EDT
built like a damn tank and not originally designed for the .30-06 at all. Aside from a rather flimsy ejector I've never heard a bad thing about them.
What's interesting is that noted M1903 fan and shooter, Townsend Whelen even admitted that the 1917 was a better battle rifle in his book "The American RIfle" The one's I've shot I've noticed are like a Garand in that for a .30-06 there is little recoil 
Hickock45 video added for good measure 
currently on the lookout for a M1917 in very good condition as well |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 8:56:40 PM EDT
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I picked one up a few years ago. Bubba got to it long before me, but it is still a fun rifle to shoot.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 8:57:08 PM EDT
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It's a good rifle. I have it in both .30-'06 M1917 and .303 P'14 flavors.
Fate conspired to make it the rifle nobody wanted, but that wasn't because it was a bad rifle. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 8:57:27 PM EDT
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Probably will be the longest Western bolt rifle in active duty service with a NATO country.
Its a tank of a rifle, accurate as a 1903, and much more durable. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 8:58:49 PM EDT
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Didn't Sergeant York actually carry a 1917?
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:00:23 PM EDT
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Have had two P14s, one was made into a long range benchrest rifle, the other is still original. Would buy another, especially a 1917 in a second!
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:00:43 PM EDT
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Didn't Sergeant York actually carry a 1917? while his unit was equipped with the 1917, he found a 1903 by some various means I read somewhere that he didn't care for the peep sights on the '17 |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:01:52 PM EDT
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I've owned many of both 17's and 14's, they're great guns.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:02:45 PM EDT
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It is a battle ax in .30-'06. I would hate to carry one around. Picked up one for less than 4 bills. Love it. Love my Garand more, but only by a little.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:03:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't Sergeant York actually carry a 1917? I think there's still some uncertainty about that. Last I heard, somebody had figured out that he had indeed acquired a 1903 before seeing combat, even though his unit was issued 1917s. I could be wrong, though. ETA: beat. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:05:46 PM EDT
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M1917 thread?
Here's mine. 
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:06:18 PM EDT
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One thing that is a PITA on the 1917/pattern 14 is bolt disassembly. Also the 1917 kept the British desired feature of cock on closing, a feature Mauser got rid of with the 98 series.
Interesting fact: the internal magazine of Powys hold 6 rounds. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:08:40 PM EDT
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Neighbor growing up had one.
Then he bubba'd it. "The horror…the horror." 
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:10:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:11:38 PM EDT
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Probably will be the longest Western bolt rifle in active duty service with a NATO country. Its a tank of a rifle, accurate as a 1903, and much more durable. wiki Sirius Patrol tent setup Due to the very special nature of Sirius Sledge Patrol operations, a wide range of unique equipment is required that is not normally used within the Danish armed forces.[2] 
The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Among the equipment used by the Sirius Sledge Patrol is the M1917 Enfield bolt-action rifle chambered in .30-06 Springfield, known in Danish service as the Gevær M/53 (17), and the Glock 20 pistol chambered in 10mm Auto. The reason for changing their sidearm is their previous Pistol M/49 sidearms chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum proved insufficient against the polar bears encountered.[9] "The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Only bolt-action rifles (M17/M53) performs reliably. The standard SIG210 Neuhausen sidearm was recently replaced by the 10mm Glock 20, as the stopping power of multiple 9mm rounds proved to be insufficient against a polar bear."[10] |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:12:33 PM EDT
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I Love mine!
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:14:03 PM EDT
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I bought on at an estate sale: stock heavily oiled but action and barrel in new shape and all original. Have wondered the action it saw and have thought about crossing open territory with a bayonet: pretty awesome. Going one on one, this thing would re-define 'beat down'.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:19:09 PM EDT
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Mine needs a military stock...someone cut the stock up the old gal.
Shot one Elk with it... 
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:19:56 PM EDT
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Many do not realize that numerically we fielded more M1917s than M1903s in WWI.
The production numbers aren't even close. Almost 2/1. Any collector of "feel good in your hand" rifles that make the noise of democracy when they shoot; need at least one of each. And at least one Garand.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:21:37 PM EDT
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M1917 thread? Here's mine.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/Firearms/Right.jpg Your Model 1917 in the picture (the one with the red-painted band on the forestock) was issued to British or Canadian troops in WW2. Since the P14 and the US Model 1917 look so much alike, the red band signifies that the rifle was chambered for 30-06. I found a 1943-vintage picture on google that showed a Canadian volunteer coast watcher with a Model 1917, with the red band clearly visible. Most of these coast watchers, called the Pacific Coast Militia Rangers, were issued Winchester 30-30 carbines. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:22:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think there's still some uncertainty about that. Last I heard, somebody had figured out that he had indeed acquired a 1903 before seeing combat, even though his unit was issued 1917s. I could be wrong, though. ETA: beat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't Sergeant York actually carry a 1917? I think there's still some uncertainty about that. Last I heard, somebody had figured out that he had indeed acquired a 1903 before seeing combat, even though his unit was issued 1917s. I could be wrong, though. ETA: beat. Only a rumor. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:23:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Good rifle. Ugly bolt though but a very sturdy rifle.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:26:05 PM EDT
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My personal musing on the M1917, It's certainly robust.
One thing I like about the No1.Mk111 is the ability to change buttstock length. As a short bastard that's a pretty cool ability. One thing I like about the M1903 is it is a pretty trim rifle. The length of pull on the M1917 is a bit excessive to me. The sights are pretty damned good to me. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:26:58 PM EDT
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wiki Sirius Patrol tent setup Due to the very special nature of Sirius Sledge Patrol operations, a wide range of unique equipment is required that is not normally used within the Danish armed forces.[2]
The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Among the equipment used by the Sirius Sledge Patrol is the M1917 Enfield bolt-action rifle chambered in .30-06 Springfield, known in Danish service as the Gevær M/53 (17), and the Glock 20 pistol chambered in 10mm Auto. The reason for changing their sidearm is their previous Pistol M/49 sidearms chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum proved insufficient against the polar bears encountered.[9] "The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Only bolt-action rifles (M17/M53) performs reliably. The standard SIG210 Neuhausen sidearm was recently replaced by the 10mm Glock 20, as the stopping power of multiple 9mm rounds proved to be insufficient against a polar bear."[10] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably will be the longest Western bolt rifle in active duty service with a NATO country. Its a tank of a rifle, accurate as a 1903, and much more durable. wiki Sirius Patrol tent setup Due to the very special nature of Sirius Sledge Patrol operations, a wide range of unique equipment is required that is not normally used within the Danish armed forces.[2]
The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Among the equipment used by the Sirius Sledge Patrol is the M1917 Enfield bolt-action rifle chambered in .30-06 Springfield, known in Danish service as the Gevær M/53 (17), and the Glock 20 pistol chambered in 10mm Auto. The reason for changing their sidearm is their previous Pistol M/49 sidearms chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum proved insufficient against the polar bears encountered.[9] "The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Only bolt-action rifles (M17/M53) performs reliably. The standard SIG210 Neuhausen sidearm was recently replaced by the 10mm Glock 20, as the stopping power of multiple 9mm rounds proved to be insufficient against a polar bear."[10] I think mine may know about the significance of waterfowl, and a dresser. 
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:27:43 PM EDT
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Overlooked and under-appreciated.
I passed on a 1914 at the last show I went to at $475. It was a decent deal, just not what I was after that day. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good rifle. Ugly bolt though but a very sturdy rifle. The dogleg bolt design is to place the bolt handle in the same relation to the trigger as found on a SMLE. It's the best place for rapid bolt manipulation. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:27:52 PM EDT
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I passed up a table full of them at $200(?) in 1996-7. They looked like they came
out the bottom of a barrel of Cosmo, but probably would've clean up. Got a M96 Swede instead. Seller told me to pass on the Swede and take the 17. In hindsight I should've taken his advice. My Swede ain't much of a shooter for whatever reason. But they went for about $175 back then IIRC. |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:30:04 PM EDT
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It is a battle ax in .30-'06. I would hate to carry one around. Picked up one for less than 4 bills. Love it. Love my Garand more, but only by a little. Agreed. Damn thing just feels a whole lot heavier that my 1903's. That said, I enjoy shooting mine. Replace the ejector spring, Numrich has had them in the past. Easy to fix and its good to go for another century!
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:32:46 PM EDT
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Didn't Sergeant York actually carry a 1917? yes |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:41:24 PM EDT
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Over the last couple years I've found four M1917s in my travels. I kept the pick of the litter. The Kerr No-Buckl sling (long) is the proper sling.
You can see what a horse it is when compared to the L1A1 under it. 
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:48:18 PM EDT
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Bubba worked mine over before I owned it. Chopped the stock, milled the rear sight off of the receiver,rechambered the barrel to .300 Win Mag and milled the bolt face. It is too far gone to ever be returned to its original glory. I put it in a laminated Boyd's stock and someday I may refinish the metal. I'll try to get her out of the safe and post some pics.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 9:59:52 PM EDT
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Bubba worked mine over before I owned it. Chopped the stock, milled the rear sight off of the receiver,rechambered the barrel to .300 Win Mag and milled the bolt face. It is too far gone to ever be returned to its original glory. I put it in a laminated Boyd's stock and someday I may refinish the metal. I'll try to get her out of the safe and post some pics. That's almost as bad as the M1917 I saw at the flea market some years ago. It looked great sitting on the table at first glance....Then I looked closer. 
Bubba had cut the right ear off and cheesed the side of the receiver for a side mount. 
I got it for cheap and parted it out. |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 1:40:01 PM EDT
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Why didn't I buy more of these when they were below $100 in the 80s!????
I picked up a Pattern 14 in .303 for just $75+ $20 cash transfer fee from Springfield Sporters in 1988! |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 1:44:28 PM EDT
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I got one from the CMP a few years ago, it's a good shooter. Nice long sight radius.
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Posted: 3/13/2015 1:46:05 PM EDT
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I snagged a nice P14 at the grand opening at Cabelas Allen. Traded a spare No4 MkII Enfield for it.
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Posted: 3/13/2015 1:50:29 PM EDT
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Ever see one like this?
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:03:17 PM EDT
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I picked one up a few years ago. Bubba got to it long before me, but it is still a fun rifle to shoot. I've got a Winchester-made Model of 1917 that was similarly molested. Stock chopped down for hunting, rear sight ears milled-off, but thankfully the barrel was not cut. It's a very accurate rifle, even with relatively cheap ammo; I enjoy shooting clays on the berm at 200 yards with it. |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:11:00 PM EDT
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My Dad will be visiting in May, and he's bringing me all his guns, including a 1917 Eddystone.
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:17:28 PM EDT
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i have one in .460 Wby Mag..
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:18:19 PM EDT
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Good rifle. Ugly bolt though but a very sturdy rifle. ha first thing is cut the dog leg off and weld on a straight handle! |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:24:59 PM EDT
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I have one I've been trying to unload for the longest time. Awesome shooter with a really nice bore; I inherited from my dad. Has some faded red band of paint that apparently means it went to England at some point.
Other than that, I know the action is considered one of the strongest ever. |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:30:20 PM EDT
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I had one when I was in my late teens or early 20's. I bought a remington p17, with a barrel date of 2-18, at the Bessemer gunshow for 250.00. It had a mixture of remington and eddy stone parts, eddystone was the remington plant in eddystone pa. Every part of that rifle had an Eagles head with a little r or e for Remington or Eddystone. There is defininatly more iron in a p17 than an 03 Springfield and you didn't have to worry about them blowing up on you. If I recall, the p17 had a 26" barrel and the 03 had a 24" barrel. I liked the ergonomics of the rifle as well, the safety and bolt handle were right where they needed to be and you can shoot a lot faster with a cock on closing design. I remember wanting a bayonet to go with it but the p17 bayonet cost as much as the gun itself. It was also a bolt action rifle with peep sights and a very long sight radius.
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:35:00 PM EDT
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i have one in .460 Wby Mag.. Yeah, I understand that you can stuff damn near anything short of a 20mm in a M1917 action. Sometimes big and heavy isn't really a problem...more of a feature. |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 2:35:43 PM EDT
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ha first thing is cut the dog leg off and weld on a straight handle! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good rifle. Ugly bolt though but a very sturdy rifle. ha first thing is cut the dog leg off and weld on a straight handle! The 1917 is a tough rifle to sporterize. I'd leave it alone. |
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Posted: 3/13/2015 3:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The 1917 is a tough rifle to sporterize. I'd leave it alone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good rifle. Ugly bolt though but a very sturdy rifle. ha first thing is cut the dog leg off and weld on a straight handle! The 1917 is a tough rifle to sporterize. I'd leave it alone. easy peasy.. done quite a few.. |
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Posted: 3/14/2015 2:26:35 AM EDT
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Would love to own a 1917 & SMLE
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Posted: 3/14/2015 4:02:57 AM EDT
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I had a 1917. I loved it.
The sights were not windage adjustable. For a long range capable rifle, this was a major flaw. Heck, you would have to use hold off, even at 100 yards. They do shoot as softly as a Garand, maybe more so. I loved mine and hated to shooting even a few rounds in an '03 because of the harsh recoil the '03 has. |
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Posted: 3/14/2015 4:13:58 AM EDT
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My uncle gave me one he found in his parents closet when they passed away. It's an all original Winchester 1917. Serial is 11807. Barrel is dated 7-17. Great gun.
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Posted: 3/14/2015 5:16:44 AM EDT
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Quote Historywhoa... that yours? M1917 oddly absent from my collection..i might need to change that |
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Posted: 3/15/2015 9:28:41 PM EDT
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another cool 1917 vid, by MAC
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Posted: 3/15/2015 9:44:36 PM EDT
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I passed up a table full of them at $200(?) in 1996-7. They looked like they came out the bottom of a barrel of Cosmo, but probably would've clean up. Got a M96 Swede instead. Seller told me to pass on the Swede and take the 17. In hindsight I should've taken his advice. My Swede ain't much of a shooter for whatever reason. But they went for about $175 back then IIRC. I got an all matching one around 1999 for $100.00. We thought the metal was destroyed and it was a nice wall hanger. I cleaned it up. It wasn't rust. It was old oil. When I was done, it looked like it was new. I wish I still had that rifle. I've seen them sell for $1,000 in that condition in the last few years. My current one is a Winchester 85% - 90%. It shoots okay; not great. But it's 100 years old and it went through a world war, so it's fine with me. |
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